Expand or kill. First is not possible. Well, maybe for you in your dream. I can't imagine my self using a M$ product on any other than M$ platform (or half of the current people, well newcommers maybe). The thing is that I some day stopped believe M$ and I would not trust them that M$ products I use on other than M$ platforms are stable and secure as they should be (and that would be probably intentional if you look at M$ past).
Second is more likely. Delphi was used for many commercial applications so killing kylix in their eyes means keeping developers for them self. The thing is that they maybe don't realise that kylix was not used much. Sorry, but for a simple app (no network serving) coding there is just too much lacking features. 1. No reporting components 2. No real db access as in delphi which covers that department much better, ok you can use zeos but that's not it 3. QT only, no gtk (but that's the least of the problem) 4. kylix just isn't it
bad: Some points are still missing. good: They are evolving fast enough bad: not fast enough, at least if you wanna move now good: It's native in all OS good: It works much better than wined-kylix (debuging in kylix is a real pain in the ass, it remembers me on windows days, crash, (optional restart), crash, must restart or logoff (or kill all processes in top - delphi and windows are not included, restart is a must there)) bad: less features than kylix good: lighter, faster
all in all together. I have licensed delphi 7 and kylix 3, but I don't use them, only for some small db projects. All my other work is more console than gui, so lazarus ROCKS, at least for me.
You might try few things. Bash scripting guide (just type "bash" in search box on freshmeat.net) and use "man" more oftenly. There's really no specific reason to memorise all params. Use man when you need it at first. Next thing is you'll be typing that from your head.
I guess my only option is to suck it up and start memorizing, but I don't like it. We all did that.
I don't think this is a very professional way to make an operating system targeted at the general public. Wrong, this is a really professional way to make a server operating system. Main reason: admin should know exactly what is he setting up. But still go to: www.webmin.com and download tar.gz (much easyer to install than others), this should give your clicking need a boost. But for a desktop I agree it's not right.
CLI should enhance productivity by making things faster, and in some limited cases, add funcitonality. I shouldn't need to use bash on a regular basis. Like everybody when starting, but it will come time when you'll find out that setting up complex server can be a matter of minutes instead of hours or days. Simple bash script, then Copy files and that's it. You don't need to use it on regular basis, but in time you will, if you'll just give it a go.
It's hard to make outage like that. Surely there must been at least one other admin for that time.
Well, I've got setled with my former boss. I own my own company now for 2 years. He pays upfront for my work, but he's just satisfied because I'm buying hardware I need only from his company, so money is rolling equally
Interesting comment, if it would be posted as a "freshmans hopes" or discussing userland software.
I agree, standard installer is good.
but installing software/hardware and configuring system settings is a fucking rootcanal Hardware as I see is much simple to install in linux than in Windows. Off course I use only branded and mostly expensive hardware that's confirmed to be working with Linux, so no Softmodems or notebooks with 830 chipset. Software, well if it is in RPM then installing it in Mandrake or RH8 then it's simpler, otherwise I agree../configure make make install should not be used for typical installation, at least not for users, especially not for userland software, that's something I agree completely.
LET GO OF THE GOD DAMN PAST!!! THE COMMAND LINE DIED WHEN WINDOWS 3.1 WAS RELEASED!!! DEAL WITH IT! A fairly newb comment. Try to use bash scripting with all his power sometimes and you'll notice one thing Windows never had command line, at least not decent one, DOS Command line was just a simple mockup, so command line has not died with GUI arrival, just the stupid mockups
So if you're hoping to be stop being newb and become pro. Get with the program. Admin will (or better, should) never be restricted to GUI only. I admit that it's nice to click "do my server" and all is running. But better question is: Is it really running as you'd like it to run? Let's say apache, try to make a GUI that would enable admin to use it with all his power and be simple to use. Impossible, Webmin is the closest thing to that option.
So, take my words to consideration. GUI is good but not really powerfull (if there's no option to click something, well you can't set that something and looking as Server parts are evolving there's always some options that can't be clicked). CLI is better but harder to learn and harder to use. If you can do something in GUI, do it, then use CLI to check and fine tune what you did with GUI.
Next thing, read your last two sentences and try todecide what are you: anewb or a trying to be pro. I just couldn't figure it out
I wanna see SVG set standard to other apps like flash.
Free standard / Free or proprietary tool. I really don't mind paying for app, but I hate when format is not defined by defacto standard (hard to make it compatible with every software).
As for tools. Many of them out there support stand still SVG. But I wonder if some editor supports post editing to add links and animations to web page in SVG.
I'm not really a web developer, but nature of my work sometimes forces me to produce some.
If I remeber correctly main features of Longhorn were SQL filesystem?? (moved to next release), server parts (not in this release) and some other functions of which most of them will not be present in Longhorn.
My guess is that M$ has just wiped out XP SE and renamed to Longhorn which is the next big release to be (probably to get more customers for Licensing v6 with promise of this new release) and renamed Longhorn-plan as blackcomb.
Gates's script would look something like rm Blackcomb # if we had one at all mv Longhorn Blackcomb # think for new fake promises for that one mv XP-SE Longhorn echo Customers get sucked once again echo We get richer echo echo I'm happy echo BG echo echo note echo ask Ballmer to perform his monkey act once again
p.s. converted to shell script, to protect my self not to be sued for IP rights
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No, not at all.
If it would be it would cause them more damage than benefit.
If you're reading figures you'll notice that figures show about M$ losing ground (I can only hope it's true, if it's not then, well...) and that causes need in general public to be more informed about something called Linux. Basically, if my Neighboor is using it, I just can't be behind
Mainstream pushing and acceptance is always growing or falling faster then linear. Either something is gaining groud or loosing it, but the more public knows "current fashion" the faster that fashion is accepted.
I agree, but keeping in mind that Samba has grown to this point without M$ is what makes me happy.
They can still do what they did untill now, because there is a loophole on the other side too. M$ can't stop them because this law disables them this ability. They can protect their patents and APIs, even charge for them, but Samba is moving along without that specs.
Wrong, look at the term "middleware", they specified what middleware is.
They are also bound to make a different BOOT MANAGER, to privide option for other systems to be used.
What it's more concerning is.
1. M$ must provide API's for any middleware or protocol that's been used to communicate with M$ system or server.
(later below) 2. M$ can restrict access to any API that is concerning nature or restricted with any other party (I think they meant mainly government)
(even more below) 3. M$ can patent and charge for any API they want.
So, taken this to consideration: "What does this mean for Samba?"
They can get charged for specs, or charged for patented protocol if M$ would patent it (on the other hand in one paragraph it says they can't be, because M$ must provide specs without enforcing any liabilities). (If I'm wrong, please, do correct me)
Well, at first I think it's fair judgement, but I'm feeling it's not over.
1. Apple started to sell licenses because of the financial troubles, to expand Mac compatible market. After that, you've got it right. Mac clones canibalised market (price). But, looked from the other side, they expanded Mac market (their low price made Mac market grow). So, you're right on one part of the story
2. I guess you never realised, that one and another PS driver are completely different way drawing on prn canvas. I guess that's why one version printed bad fonts on newer version. Next one took forever to show printer list. Next one oftenly resolved in corrupted DesktopPrinters.DB, etc. But then again, maybe it's just me.
3. Darwin runs on PowerPC-based Macintosh computers and a version is also available for x86-compatible computers. (taken from Apple.com), Question which x86 hardware, but hey, they aren't promising anything, there you're right.
Actualy last point you're getting right. I was working for a computer company and our Mac covering support people sucked. So after hearing complaints I've started to learn all about Macs just to avoid them. It somehow came out that people started turning to me about Mac support and ever since I've funded my own company I'm trying to avoid that dark side (do not take it personaly, but just compare number of files that are visible and files that are not, and there are other examples) of my job, but still not with a complete success. So take it or leave it. unfortunatelly I'm not the happy Mac user, that blindly believes in that company. My computer times started with Indigo 1.
"Judging by your posting history", well, if you studied me that well, you should've realised that I accept my mistakes if someone proves me other.
Either just as bad or even worse. Apple is making a good record of punishing companies that helped them stand up and become one of the largest computer companies.
1. Remember clones? In a day they just cut licensing for clone making practicaly without warning. Even though these companies have helped (take it as you wish, but Apple was in financial crisis in that time) when Apple was selling clone licenses.
2. Every new version of 9.x system broke adobe postscript in favour of laserwriter and OSX. (Although I wouldn't remember any of new features in >9.04 releases)
3. Open source kernel under a false promises. Hell, open source kernel for one type of hardware only. I don't know which x86 can you use with him, everything other is pure proprietary software
For now Apple doesn't keep as good record as MS, but in time when Apple would grow, believe it will.
I've been using Macs for about 6 years now and I'm just looking to completely Switch off.
What I find terribly amusing is your lack of knowledge. Patch is more than one month old.
This virus is not hurting Linux comunity. It just shows that there's too few holes for virus writers to be original. Last 3 viruses where using the same one hole. That's more promoting than demoting.
Well, for bad admins. I fell it's ok if they get infected. And for users, they don't have web server, but if they have, they should click Update icon sometimes.
I wonder what difference does it make. To write to a video stream instead of video (with a DVD payer). All problems come when compression takes place. So there would be a need for hardware that makes possible to compress on the fly.
Intercepting video or playing video ta a stream, there's no difference.
Maybe by concentrating more power into one solution. As much as I like variety I must admit that having one desktop would be better.
I don't say any of desktop solutions should go away, they should collaborate by using same low level ingredients. (vfs, sound, applets, clipboard). I would like to select a theme in nautilus and have the same mime types in konqueror (or select in konqueror and have nautilus supporting y selection).
By leveling the low level part of desktop there would be much wider options to write professional looking applications that would not depend on desktop you use. (example: burn a cd and watch your user set icons all across the software, no matter what desktop)
As it concerns encoders. xiph.org. Almost every ripping software supports external encoder. So off to the site and download codec to use with your favourite ripper with CDDB.
Frauhoffer encoder is great only when music is consistant. Try to rip some Pink Floyd alike song (most of them start in acoustic and then transform to rock) and you'll notice acoustic vibrating pattern all across the song (even there where acoustic is not present). Basically Frauhoffer doesn't change encoding all trough the song. Lame was much better in that manner. Ogg? I'm giving it a test run just now.
Hardware will pop out as soon as Ogg gets reputation.
in fact not, it's fourth and I never sleep bad if I have a bad grammar. If you have a problem with my English, well I have no problem with you having a problem with my English, so I don't bother.;-)
Spinning disk. I hope you'll sometimes run a recovery or database transaction or something and watch your spinning disk not knowing where you are. What I said is there is no guidelines how and when to handle such actions.
You know it makes a huge difference of how much white light is facing you. So borders and toolbars are in question.
MDI is usable, just not as Windows proposed it. Tabbed interface on the other hand is very usefull way of MDI
1) It's painfull if you're forced to have color matching. Your case of using brightness and contrast is out. Laptop on the sun is unusable, white, greay, red or black.
2) Wrong, I wasn't pointing out rendering time of photo or HDrawn icons. I said that resolution of photo icon is forcing you to bigger icons. Handdrawn icons are made for resolution they are drawn and they are simified to look better on smaller resolutions. Try to size down photo icon and you'll know what I mean.
3) Not the controls. View design and interface design of these applications. All others are white or white with gray stripes. Qt and iTunes are gray (with texture fill). Look better, don't use laptop on the sun. If they say in their design paper, use this, why don't they.
4) Not necesarilly everything, there are two ok and two cancel buttons and that's the fact
5) I guess you don't realise I'm talking about paper, not applications. Paper forgot to mention suggested actions.
6) You say people don't go where they could. Heh, Why are they selling iBooks with 1024x768. Ever tryed to run MOX on that? I guess people don't all have 22" displays, and yes MOX beggins to be usable at 1600x1200
7) They made Qt and iTunes skin look different? That's why. But still read my comment. I was talking about selecting colors
8) I guess you have completely missed representation what MDI is. MDI can be used the way mozilla does. MDI can be pager with options to choose which document.
Neither am I a moron, and probably neither are you. But if you wanna get your PhD I guess you should better start considering staying at the topic.
1. Talk is about paper that is describing how to make a software to run on Apple hardware 2. This paper should make a picture of this systems perfection 3. System is the first thing that should use that paper 4. If system is not following this paper correctly, why should others? 5. All examples I used are Apple designs for MOX and Apple hardware 6. All you've described is sad reality and lame excuses
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If that would happen', what is the posibility for flash to surive?
.NET.
It's just one step less if you wanna force down
They can do two things.
Expand or kill.
First is not possible. Well, maybe for you in your dream. I can't imagine my self using a M$ product on any other than M$ platform (or half of the current people, well newcommers maybe). The thing is that I some day stopped believe M$ and I would not trust them that M$ products I use on other than M$ platforms are stable and secure as they should be (and that would be probably intentional if you look at M$ past).
Second is more likely. Delphi was used for many commercial applications so killing kylix in their eyes means keeping developers for them self. The thing is that they maybe don't realise that kylix was not used much. Sorry, but for a simple app (no network serving) coding there is just too much lacking features.
1. No reporting components
2. No real db access as in delphi which covers that department much better, ok you can use zeos but that's not it
3. QT only, no gtk (but that's the least of the problem)
4. kylix just isn't it
Compare lazarus to delphi or kylix.
bad: Some points are still missing.
good: They are evolving fast enough
bad: not fast enough, at least if you wanna move now
good: It's native in all OS
good: It works much better than wined-kylix (debuging in kylix is a real pain in the ass, it remembers me on windows days, crash, (optional restart), crash, must restart or logoff (or kill all processes in top - delphi and windows are not included, restart is a must there))
bad: less features than kylix
good: lighter, faster
all in all together. I have licensed delphi 7 and kylix 3, but I don't use them, only for some small db projects. All my other work is more console than gui, so lazarus ROCKS, at least for me.
You might try few things. Bash scripting guide (just type "bash" in search box on freshmeat.net)
and use "man" more oftenly. There's really no specific reason to memorise all params. Use man when you need it at first. Next thing is you'll be typing that from your head.
I guess my only option is to suck it up and start memorizing, but I don't like it.
We all did that.
I don't think this is a very professional way to make an operating system targeted at the general public.
Wrong, this is a really professional way to make a server operating system. Main reason: admin should know exactly what is he setting up.
But still go to: www.webmin.com and download tar.gz (much easyer to install than others), this should give your clicking need a boost.
But for a desktop I agree it's not right.
CLI should enhance productivity by making things faster, and in some limited cases, add funcitonality. I shouldn't need to use bash on a regular basis.
Like everybody when starting, but it will come time when you'll find out that setting up complex server can be a matter of minutes instead of hours or days. Simple bash script, then Copy files and that's it.
You don't need to use it on regular basis, but in time you will, if you'll just give it a go.
Yeah, but he's 5 months without a job.
It's hard to make outage like that. Surely there must been at least one other admin for that time.
Well, I've got setled with my former boss. I own my own company now for 2 years. He pays upfront for my work, but he's just satisfied because I'm buying hardware I need only from his company, so money is rolling equally
Interesting comment, if it would be posted as a "freshmans hopes" or discussing userland software.
./configure
I agree, standard installer is good.
but installing software/hardware and configuring system settings is a fucking rootcanal
Hardware as I see is much simple to install in linux than in Windows. Off course I use only branded and mostly expensive hardware that's confirmed to be working with Linux, so no Softmodems or notebooks with 830 chipset.
Software, well if it is in RPM then installing it in Mandrake or RH8 then it's simpler, otherwise I agree.
make
make install
should not be used for typical installation, at least not for users, especially not for userland software, that's something I agree completely.
LET GO OF THE GOD DAMN PAST!!! THE COMMAND LINE DIED WHEN WINDOWS 3.1 WAS RELEASED!!! DEAL WITH IT!
A fairly newb comment. Try to use bash scripting with all his power sometimes and you'll notice one thing Windows never had command line, at least not decent one, DOS Command line was just a simple mockup, so command line has not died with GUI arrival, just the stupid mockups
So if you're hoping to be stop being newb and become pro. Get with the program. Admin will (or better, should) never be restricted to GUI only. I admit that it's nice to click "do my server" and all is running. But better question is: Is it really running as you'd like it to run? Let's say apache, try to make a GUI that would enable admin to use it with all his power and be simple to use. Impossible, Webmin is the closest thing to that option.
So, take my words to consideration. GUI is good but not really powerfull (if there's no option to click something, well you can't set that something and looking as Server parts are evolving there's always some options that can't be clicked). CLI is better but harder to learn and harder to use. If you can do something in GUI, do it, then use CLI to check and fine tune what you did with GUI.
Next thing, read your last two sentences and try todecide what are you: anewb or a trying to be pro. I just couldn't figure it out
Maybe I said it a bit clumsy.
I wanna see SVG set standard to other apps like flash.
Free standard / Free or proprietary tool. I really don't mind paying for app, but I hate when format is not defined by defacto standard (hard to make it compatible with every software).
As for tools.
Many of them out there support stand still SVG. But I wonder if some editor supports post editing to add links and animations to web page in SVG.
I'm not really a web developer, but nature of my work sometimes forces me to produce some.
I hope this puts flash out of bussines. It would be time for SVG to replace standard flash.
Let the proprietary follow free standards.
You are and you are not wrong.
... or not?
Longhorn is the next release to be.
If I remeber correctly main features of Longhorn were SQL filesystem?? (moved to next release), server parts (not in this release) and some other functions of which most of them will not be present in Longhorn.
My guess is that M$ has just wiped out XP SE and renamed to Longhorn which is the next big release to be (probably to get more customers for Licensing v6 with promise of this new release) and renamed Longhorn-plan as blackcomb.
Gates's script would look something like
rm Blackcomb
# if we had one at all
mv Longhorn Blackcomb
# think for new fake promises for that one
mv XP-SE Longhorn
echo Customers get sucked once again
echo We get richer
echo
echo I'm happy
echo BG
echo
echo note
echo ask Ballmer to perform his monkey act once again
p.s. converted to shell script, to protect my self not to be sued for IP rights
No, not at all.
If it would be it would cause them more damage than benefit.
If you're reading figures you'll notice that figures show about M$ losing ground (I can only hope it's true, if it's not then, well...) and that causes need in general public to be more informed about something called Linux. Basically, if my Neighboor is using it, I just can't be behind
Mainstream pushing and acceptance is always growing or falling faster then linear. Either something is gaining groud or loosing it, but the more public knows "current fashion" the faster that fashion is accepted.
I agree, but keeping in mind that Samba has grown to this point without M$ is what makes me happy.
They can still do what they did untill now, because there is a loophole on the other side too. M$ can't stop them because this law disables them this ability. They can protect their patents and APIs, even charge for them, but Samba is moving along without that specs.
Wrong, look at the term "middleware", they specified what middleware is.
They are also bound to make a different BOOT MANAGER, to privide option for other systems to be used.
What it's more concerning is.
1. M$ must provide API's for any middleware or protocol that's been used to communicate with M$ system or server.
(later below)
2. M$ can restrict access to any API that is concerning nature or restricted with any other party (I think they meant mainly government)
(even more below)
3. M$ can patent and charge for any API they want.
So, taken this to consideration: "What does this mean for Samba?"
They can get charged for specs, or charged for patented protocol if M$ would patent it (on the other hand in one paragraph it says they can't be, because M$ must provide specs without enforcing any liabilities). (If I'm wrong, please, do correct me)
Well, at first I think it's fair judgement, but I'm feeling it's not over.
Or beter better, a good prediction picture of computing after nuclear holocaust (1st one)
1. Apple started to sell licenses because of the financial troubles, to expand Mac compatible market. After that, you've got it right. Mac clones canibalised market (price). But, looked from the other side, they expanded Mac market (their low price made Mac market grow). So, you're right on one part of the story
2. I guess you never realised, that one and another PS driver are completely different way drawing on prn canvas. I guess that's why one version printed bad fonts on newer version. Next one took forever to show printer list. Next one oftenly resolved in corrupted DesktopPrinters.DB, etc. But then again, maybe it's just me.
3. Darwin runs on PowerPC-based Macintosh computers and a version is also available for x86-compatible computers. (taken from Apple.com), Question which x86 hardware, but hey, they aren't promising anything, there you're right.
Actualy last point you're getting right. I was working for a computer company and our Mac covering support people sucked. So after hearing complaints I've started to learn all about Macs just to avoid them. It somehow came out that people started turning to me about Mac support and ever since I've funded my own company I'm trying to avoid that dark side (do not take it personaly, but just compare number of files that are visible and files that are not, and there are other examples) of my job, but still not with a complete success.
So take it or leave it. unfortunatelly I'm not the happy Mac user, that blindly believes in that company. My computer times started with Indigo 1.
"Judging by your posting history", well, if you studied me that well, you should've realised that I accept my mistakes if someone proves me other.
So, where do I download source for Aqua?
Ups, and Darwin isn't supporting my hardware, damn. But then again Darwin itself is just as usable as DOS prompt from desktop view.
I disagree on that.
Either just as bad or even worse. Apple is making a good record of punishing companies that helped them stand up and become one of the largest computer companies.
1. Remember clones? In a day they just cut licensing for clone making practicaly without warning. Even though these companies have helped (take it as you wish, but Apple was in financial crisis in that time) when Apple was selling clone licenses.
2. Every new version of 9.x system broke adobe postscript in favour of laserwriter and OSX. (Although I wouldn't remember any of new features in >9.04 releases)
3. Open source kernel under a false promises. Hell, open source kernel for one type of hardware only. I don't know which x86 can you use with him, everything other is pure proprietary software
For now Apple doesn't keep as good record as MS, but in time when Apple would grow, believe it will.
I've been using Macs for about 6 years now and I'm just looking to completely Switch off.
What I find terribly amusing is your lack of knowledge. Patch is more than one month old.
This virus is not hurting Linux comunity. It just shows that there's too few holes for virus writers to be original. Last 3 viruses where using the same one hole. That's more promoting than demoting.
Well, for bad admins. I fell it's ok if they get infected. And for users, they don't have web server, but if they have, they should click Update icon sometimes.
Usualy it takes at least half of hour to release patch when hole is discovered.
This time patch was month or so too fast for Slapper.B and C. Does this mean that Open Source gets better and better?
p.s. I hate lame unintuitive virus writers without imagination
(with a DVD player)
I wanna say, this is the only tool that will came out with this. Either that or pirated DVDs.
I wonder what difference does it make. To write to a video stream instead of video (with a DVD payer). All problems come when compression takes place. So there would be a need for hardware that makes possible to compress on the fly.
Intercepting video or playing video ta a stream, there's no difference.
Maybe by concentrating more power into one solution. As much as I like variety I must admit that having one desktop would be better.
I don't say any of desktop solutions should go away, they should collaborate by using same low level ingredients. (vfs, sound, applets, clipboard). I would like to select a theme in nautilus and have the same mime types in konqueror (or select in konqueror and have nautilus supporting y selection).
By leveling the low level part of desktop there would be much wider options to write professional looking applications that would not depend on desktop you use. (example: burn a cd and watch your user set icons all across the software, no matter what desktop)
As it concerns encoders. xiph.org. Almost every ripping software supports external encoder. So off to the site and download codec to use with your favourite ripper with CDDB.
Frauhoffer encoder is great only when music is consistant. Try to rip some Pink Floyd alike song (most of them start in acoustic and then transform to rock) and you'll notice acoustic vibrating pattern all across the song (even there where acoustic is not present). Basically Frauhoffer doesn't change encoding all trough the song. Lame was much better in that manner. Ogg? I'm giving it a test run just now.
Hardware will pop out as soon as Ogg gets reputation.
in fact not, it's fourth and I never sleep bad if I have a bad grammar. If you have a problem with my English, well I have no problem with you having a problem with my English, so I don't bother. ;-)
Spinning disk. I hope you'll sometimes run a recovery or database transaction or something and watch your spinning disk not knowing where you are. What I said is there is no guidelines how and when to handle such actions.
You know it makes a huge difference of how much white light is facing you. So borders and toolbars are in question.
MDI is usable, just not as Windows proposed it. Tabbed interface on the other hand is very usefull way of MDI
1) It's painfull if you're forced to have color matching. Your case of using brightness and contrast is out. Laptop on the sun is unusable, white, greay, red or black.
2) Wrong, I wasn't pointing out rendering time of photo or HDrawn icons. I said that resolution of photo icon is forcing you to bigger icons. Handdrawn icons are made for resolution they are drawn and they are simified to look better on smaller resolutions. Try to size down photo icon and you'll know what I mean.
3) Not the controls. View design and interface design of these applications. All others are white or white with gray stripes. Qt and iTunes are gray (with texture fill). Look better, don't use laptop on the sun. If they say in their design paper, use this, why don't they.
4) Not necesarilly everything, there are two ok and two cancel buttons and that's the fact
5) I guess you don't realise I'm talking about paper, not applications. Paper forgot to mention suggested actions.
6) You say people don't go where they could. Heh, Why are they selling iBooks with 1024x768. Ever tryed to run MOX on that? I guess people don't all have 22" displays, and yes MOX beggins to be usable at 1600x1200
7) They made Qt and iTunes skin look different? That's why. But still read my comment. I was talking about selecting colors
8) I guess you have completely missed representation what MDI is. MDI can be used the way mozilla does. MDI can be pager with options to choose which document.
Neither am I a moron, and probably neither are you. But if you wanna get your PhD I guess you should better start considering staying at the topic.
1. Talk is about paper that is describing how to make a software to run on Apple hardware
2. This paper should make a picture of this systems perfection
3. System is the first thing that should use that paper
4. If system is not following this paper correctly, why should others?
5. All examples I used are Apple designs for MOX and Apple hardware
6. All you've described is sad reality and lame excuses
And yes we agree. Aqua is not the best interface.