We understand the size of the target market. We understand that it may not be economically viable. But does it hurt to ask for a port? Why ask if you already know the answer? Zonk knows as well and just wants to prevent the interviewee from thinking of new ways to rephrase "we prefer to focus on markets that will actually us profits".
I can't find an exact link but there was news a couple of weeks ago about a patent google filed that basically says that they are using feed popularity to judge which blogs are of higher quality and as such more relevant for search rankings. Feedburner is a perfect resource to get accurate feed popularity data.
Interesting post about the difficulties of the developing for the web. However, you keep giving examples why javascript suck where in reality all the examples you gave are about the API and not the language itself.
I wrote ONE Swing app in my life, and I got that part right, because it was spelled out for me v-e-r-y c-l-e-a-r-l-y in every resource I used. I guess static typing and a simple language is NOT enough to defeat bad programmers. This makes me want to slap the next person I see for being a member of a stupid, lazy species. I think he is talking about Swing Worker which is a new feature for Java 6. Was the only swing app you ever wrote for java 6?
(I posted this under the wrong story so I am copy pasting here....)
I think most people in the F/OSS community don't see the importance of Sun's actions in the last couple of years regarding the economic viability of F/OSS.
This is a company who opened sourced (or is open sourcing right now) a very large important and complex portfolio of it's software. It is also a company which is considered a major player in its field and a lot for these software products where successfully sold for big bucks in the past.
F/OSS takes a lot of criticism regarding it economic model which most businessmen see as non existent. If Sun can pull it through and improve its financial results after making such a big commitment to F/OSS software, only than will the F/OSS community will have a winner in their hands to show off in front of skeptics. This is not the same as Red Hat who made a business out of F/OSS but a company which is rejecting the old ways of closed source and is taking a big gamble that F/OSS is not only the right thing to do morally, but that it can also become a better business model than closed source software.
I think most people in the F/OSS community don't see the importance of Sun's actions in the last couple of years regarding the economic viability of F/OSS.
This is a company who opened sourced (or is open sourcing right now) a very large important and complex portfolio of it's software. It is also a company which is considered a major player in its field and a lot for these software products where successfully sold for big bucks in the past.
F/OSS takes a lot of criticism regarding it economic model which most businessmen see as non existent. If Sun can pull it through and improve its financial results after making such a big commitment to F/OSS software, only than will the F/OSS community will have a winner in their hands to show off in front of skeptics. This is not the same as Red Hat who made a business out of F/OSS but a company which is rejecting the old ways of closed source and is taking a big gamble that F/OSS is not only the right thing to do morally, but that it can also become a better business model than closed source software.
It's for the customers man. Those poor thoughtless, ignorant, and mostly naive people who have bought into Microsoft's lies and are now stuck with them with no way out. Like a cute fuzzy forest creature following a food trail into a dastardly trap. You feel sorry for the thoughtless creature and want to help it out of its cage. So too is the desire to lead the caged masses out of the trap(s) Microsoft has lead them into.;-)
LoB You make it sounds like Windows end users are in some sort of jail and are being enslaved for past mistakes. Most of the Windows users I know are actually pretty happy with how their computer works. Yes, you can say that they never really had a choice but the other alternatives will either look exactly the same to the average end user (Mac) or worse (Linux).
If we wanted their shit, we would buy it. What we really want is for MS to stop being like the Borg. They should communicate with open languages and protocols and stop trying to assimilate the world. The reason they won't is that they would become irrelevant almost overnight.
So why do they suck? Microsoft is a business that exists to make money. The last thing you can say about them from a business point of view is that they suck. They are actually the absolute best at what they are doing - making money out of software.
This is a revolt [facebook.com] against the greediness and blatant disrespect for the consumer that comes from the mpaa/riaa. I know this is how this looks but being an occasional visitor to digg and reading comments on the site I have a strange feeling that most diggers are probably doing this for no other reason than just because it looks cool(in a digg nerdy kind of way).
but with some serious flaws mostly pertaining to performance. OSS fans can scream "it's a feature!" all they want but FF's performance is simply unacceptable. While the community has brought up the subject several times it is still not getting the amount of attention it is supposed to get. I haven't heard of any radical performance improving plans for FF 3.0 although this is the most needed "feature" by far.
I am quite sure that if FF was a Microsoft product its performance who have been ridiculed to no end on/.
Main reason I use Opera instead of firefox is the simple fact that opera uses a third of the amount of memory firefox uses and is much much faster. It's that simple.
But not everything is perfect since Opera still doesn't have an answer to firefox' extensions and for some reason the new slashdot "ajax" comment browsing is slowing opera to a crawl (now if I had firebug I could find out why).
Would you explain to a hobbyist programmer what exactly is wrong with that code?
I've actually browsed through drupal's code and it seemed pretty well organized and easy to understand to me. Cant comment about the quality though...
We understand the size of the target market. We understand that it may not be economically viable. But does it hurt to ask for a port? Why ask if you already know the answer? Zonk knows as well and just wants to prevent the interviewee from thinking of new ways to rephrase "we prefer to focus on markets that will actually us profits".
From now on they'll be known as Band of Bonds.
I can't find an exact link but there was news a couple of weeks ago about a patent google filed that basically says that they are using feed popularity to judge which blogs are of higher quality and as such more relevant for search rankings. Feedburner is a perfect resource to get accurate feed popularity data.
And you know that 90% will always use the default options...
Interesting post about the difficulties of the developing for the web. However, you keep giving examples why javascript suck where in reality all the examples you gave are about the API and not the language itself.
I never really understood all the hate for Netbeans. Maybe it's part of the "hate Sun" heritage.
(I posted this under the wrong story so I am copy pasting here....)
I think most people in the F/OSS community don't see the importance of Sun's actions in the last couple of years regarding the economic viability of F/OSS.
This is a company who opened sourced (or is open sourcing right now) a very large important and complex portfolio of it's software. It is also a company which is considered a major player in its field and a lot for these software products where successfully sold for big bucks in the past.
F/OSS takes a lot of criticism regarding it economic model which most businessmen see as non existent. If Sun can pull it through and improve its financial results after making such a big commitment to F/OSS software, only than will the F/OSS community will have a winner in their hands to show off in front of skeptics. This is not the same as Red Hat who made a business out of F/OSS but a company which is rejecting the old ways of closed source and is taking a big gamble that F/OSS is not only the right thing to do morally, but that it can also become a better business model than closed source software.
I think most people in the F/OSS community don't see the importance of Sun's actions in the last couple of years regarding the economic viability of F/OSS.
This is a company who opened sourced (or is open sourcing right now) a very large important and complex portfolio of it's software. It is also a company which is considered a major player in its field and a lot for these software products where successfully sold for big bucks in the past.
F/OSS takes a lot of criticism regarding it economic model which most businessmen see as non existent. If Sun can pull it through and improve its financial results after making such a big commitment to F/OSS software, only than will the F/OSS community will have a winner in their hands to show off in front of skeptics. This is not the same as Red Hat who made a business out of F/OSS but a company which is rejecting the old ways of closed source and is taking a big gamble that F/OSS is not only the right thing to do morally, but that it can also become a better business model than closed source software.
Well that's a relief.
Good idea! I've patented "Sex" but I see very slim profits from the slashdot crowd, I'm sure you'll do better.
LoB
You make it sounds like Windows end users are in some sort of jail and are being enslaved for past mistakes. Most of the Windows users I know are actually pretty happy with how their computer works. Yes, you can say that they never really had a choice but the other alternatives will either look exactly the same to the average end user (Mac) or worse (Linux).
So why do they suck? Microsoft is a business that exists to make money. The last thing you can say about them from a business point of view is that they suck. They are actually the absolute best at what they are doing - making money out of software.
If sometime in the future Linux will be a true success on the desktop, it will be because it's free as in beer and not free as in speech.
I am quite sure that if FF was a Microsoft product its performance who have been ridiculed to no end on /.
A little bit off topic but if I take your first paragraph and replace "java" with "firefox" it still makes sense. And firefox is written in c++ AFAIK.
Since there is a managed extension to DX9 and the fact that Microsoft is pushing managed code pretty hard, I think it is only a question of time.
I heard Oxygen is also popular among breathers.
You just forgot to attach a .gif image and "it's going to skyrocket!"
He is right.
You must be a really fun guy to hang around with.
Main reason I use Opera instead of firefox is the simple fact that opera uses a third of the amount of memory firefox uses and is much much faster. It's that simple. But not everything is perfect since Opera still doesn't have an answer to firefox' extensions and for some reason the new slashdot "ajax" comment browsing is slowing opera to a crawl (now if I had firebug I could find out why).
Would you explain to a hobbyist programmer what exactly is wrong with that code? I've actually browsed through drupal's code and it seemed pretty well organized and easy to understand to me. Cant comment about the quality though...