One Question GF,
And to be clear, this isn't an attack, you just seem to be very knowledgeable re the subject.
But if the current legal system is so inclined to worry about how the "child" may not understand right from wrong, how come I keep hearing about cases where the "16 year old murderer" etc. are being tried "as adults".
Where does the differentiation come in regarding children who walk on other people's property and drown in their pools vs children who kill and commit other violent acts?
Is someone only responsible for being an adult as long as they are actively breaking the law?
People who live in Washington (like I used to) should let their friends and loved ones know what verizon is trying to do. News like this hardly even gets reported, and if those of us who realize what a threat this is to privacy actually took five minutes to let our friends know, then maybe we could actually show companies what happens when they decide to treat their customers like commodities that can be used up and thrown aside.
I believe that symbol before the 184 Mil figure is for British Pounds, MSNBC is running a similar article here where they quote the cost of ASCI purple as $290 Mil alone.
Neither comment is completely true. In some cases, yes people here in the US do not want to spend extra money to have the bleeding edge because we have different priorities. On the other hand, where cell phones are concerned, the majority of the US does not have the population density, and small size, that European countries have. And most companies do not want to come out with a bleeding edge phone that they can only take to market in extremely high density areas. The new AT&T GSM's have problems selling in my locale simply because GSM is still not available in as large of an area as older technologies. If we had the population density of Europe then maybe they would spend the money to add more GSM capability, but not when there aren't enough people to support the costs.
What you are preaching reminds me of socialism and communism...the idea that people should not be rewarded for hard work, instead they should recieve rewards based on their needs. Sounds all great to you, but why should I work hard for you?
Can't you go out there and work hard for yourself?
I am not your slave, and neither is anyone else, and there is definately no way anybody with half a brain is gonna slave away trying to invent the next best thing, just so you can act all indignant and say "Gimme that, I deserve it!"
You talk about selfishness, many people just want to be able to EARN their greatness, you are the one who wants a free ride.
Because I simply grabbed the joke off of a chat line (just type "women are the root of evil" into google), doesn't mean I am somehow limited in understanding women (I will admit to understanding more than the joke, but less than I would like),...and taking that to mean that I somehow have no clue to the limits of my knowledge is just a foolish attempt at insulting someone.
Although I do appreciate the irony in being made fun of, because I complained about people making fun of engineers, and in doing so made fun of women in general.:)
It would probably just be all better if women and men were equally exposed to math and science at a young age, then we could have more complex ones about us guys (aside from the usual "men=pigs"... there's not even addition going on)
Women takes time and money.
Women = time x money
Time IS money
Women = money x money = money ^ 2
Money is the root of all evil
money = sqrt(evil)
=> money^2 = evil
since women = money^2
women = evil
If you are going to make fun of engineers because they have a different sense of humor than you (i.e. requires logical thought process) then could you please stop using all electronics and sell your car, we're tired of ungrateful people using nice things that we invented.
One of my favs from college is to take one can of mushroom soup, one can of green beans, mix and cook it in the microwave or the on the stove. It actually is pretty easy, takes hardly any effort, and the ingrediants are canned so they last forever. If you decide you want some meat in that I personally like stove-blackened chicken breasts that have been cubed.
I'm not sure I agree with that assessment. HP has not taken this to court, so it doesn't provide any sort of legal precedent at all. If you were to walk into a courtroom and say "well HP threatened to use the DMCA so obviously the DMCA can be used to stop *insert action here* " I don't think you would see any benefit at all. The threat was made by one part of HP...it is still quite a large company, the threat probably did not speak for all of HP, as is obvious by its retraction.
I am kind of curious what action could be taken in the event you do not have any of their copyrighted material? Also, what happens if I have some music shared, they start to DoS me, and I remove the incriminating material? If they fail to notice, and continue with their supposedly legal actions, can I then have them prosecuted for breaking the law?
Just curious if anyone here has enough experience with the legal system to know where that would stand.
Kinda reminds me about how Majestic was suppose to be a revolution in gaming. Only this time the revolution is in an art form, and they are not charging for it.
I definately like the section with "The Anonymous Faxer", I wonder if the idea of using puzzles as a part of a story is original (for a non-game) or has someone seen this type of storytelling before?
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Maybe a good discussion would be: "what can you do for society, knowing what you know"
After all, even though it seems many of us have the knowledge to implement and/or push such simple standards to help change the world for the better, very few of us seem willing to spend their time in such noble persuits.
Have geeks become so godlike with technology that we forget help the less techno-literate around us?
...and if so, Is that a bad thing, or simply the way things go?
Frankly, I say that what this guy has done is great IMHO, and I wish that I could get myself off my lazy ass to be as useful as he is, with what minute knowledge I do have
This definately comes as a surprise given the direction that HP has taken as of late. Many of the people I have known who work there consider Carly's main interest to be profit, and EVERYTHING else comes second. The idea that HP would push a royalty-free system is a wonderful surprise.
Isn't there someway to argue that encryption in the '00s is as important to personal freedom as firearms in the 1800's? Firearms are protected in the Bill of Rights because in our forefather's time they were thought necessary to ensure against the tyranny of our own government. Doesn't encryption fulfill a similar role nowadays?
Just a thought, and a controversial one I'm sure...I'm not exactly sure I'd want to be comparing encryption to firearms to some people I know, but I think that there is a similarity in them (to a point of course:)
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I have the Computer Engineering Degree, I'll let you know how it turns out in 5 years or so when I get the law degree ;)
ryan
One Question GF, And to be clear, this isn't an attack, you just seem to be very knowledgeable re the subject.
But if the current legal system is so inclined to worry about how the "child" may not understand right from wrong, how come I keep hearing about cases where the "16 year old murderer" etc. are being tried "as adults".
Where does the differentiation come in regarding children who walk on other people's property and drown in their pools vs children who kill and commit other violent acts?
Is someone only responsible for being an adult as long as they are actively breaking the law?
People who live in Washington (like I used to) should let their friends and loved ones know what verizon is trying to do. News like this hardly even gets reported, and if those of us who realize what a threat this is to privacy actually took five minutes to let our friends know, then maybe we could actually show companies what happens when they decide to treat their customers like commodities that can be used up and thrown aside.
Just one man's rant.
I believe that symbol before the 184 Mil figure is for British Pounds, MSNBC is running a similar article here where they quote the cost of ASCI purple as $290 Mil alone.
That's not a crash! It's a feature!
We call it.... "Pause"
Neither comment is completely true. In some cases, yes people here in the US do not want to spend extra money to have the bleeding edge because we have different priorities. On the other hand, where cell phones are concerned, the majority of the US does not have the population density, and small size, that European countries have. And most companies do not want to come out with a bleeding edge phone that they can only take to market in extremely high density areas. The new AT&T GSM's have problems selling in my locale simply because GSM is still not available in as large of an area as older technologies. If we had the population density of Europe then maybe they would spend the money to add more GSM capability, but not when there aren't enough people to support the costs.
What you are preaching reminds me of socialism and communism...the idea that people should not be rewarded for hard work, instead they should recieve rewards based on their needs. Sounds all great to you, but why should I work hard for you?
Can't you go out there and work hard for yourself?
I am not your slave, and neither is anyone else, and there is definately no way anybody with half a brain is gonna slave away trying to invent the next best thing, just so you can act all indignant and say "Gimme that, I deserve it!"
You talk about selfishness, many people just want to be able to EARN their greatness, you are the one who wants a free ride.
The other half of evil or the other half of women?
Or do you combine the halves and get...
Drumroll please....
Hilary B. Rosen, head of the RIAA
Lol...that was so lame even I can't believe I said it
Because I simply grabbed the joke off of a chat line (just type "women are the root of evil" into google), doesn't mean I am somehow limited in understanding women (I will admit to understanding more than the joke, but less than I would like), ...and taking that to mean that I somehow have no clue to the limits of my knowledge is just a foolish attempt at insulting someone.
:)
... there's not even addition going on)
Although I do appreciate the irony in being made fun of, because I complained about people making fun of engineers, and in doing so made fun of women in general.
It would probably just be all better if women and men were equally exposed to math and science at a young age, then we could have more complex ones about us guys (aside from the usual "men=pigs"
ummm...are you referring to this proof perhaps?
Women takes time and money.
Women = time x money
Time IS money
Women = money x money = money ^ 2
Money is the root of all evil
money = sqrt(evil)
=> money^2 = evil
since women = money^2
women = evil
If you are going to make fun of engineers because they have a different sense of humor than you (i.e. requires logical thought process) then could you please stop using all electronics and sell your car, we're tired of ungrateful people using nice things that we invented.
One of my favs from college is to take one can of mushroom soup, one can of green beans, mix and cook it in the microwave or the on the stove. It actually is pretty easy, takes hardly any effort, and the ingrediants are canned so they last forever. If you decide you want some meat in that I personally like stove-blackened chicken breasts that have been cubed.
I'm not sure I agree with that assessment. HP has not taken this to court, so it doesn't provide any sort of legal precedent at all. If you were to walk into a courtroom and say "well HP threatened to use the DMCA so obviously the DMCA can be used to stop *insert action here* " I don't think you would see any benefit at all. The threat was made by one part of HP...it is still quite a large company, the threat probably did not speak for all of HP, as is obvious by its retraction.
Just 2 cents
I am kind of curious what action could be taken in the event you do not have any of their copyrighted material? Also, what happens if I have some music shared, they start to DoS me, and I remove the incriminating material? If they fail to notice, and continue with their supposedly legal actions, can I then have them prosecuted for breaking the law?
Just curious if anyone here has enough experience with the legal system to know where that would stand.
Kinda reminds me about how Majestic was suppose to be a revolution in gaming. Only this time the revolution is in an art form, and they are not charging for it.
I definately like the section with "The Anonymous Faxer", I wonder if the idea of using puzzles as a part of a story is original (for a non-game) or has someone seen this type of storytelling before?
Maybe a good discussion would be: "what can you do for society, knowing what you know"
After all, even though it seems many of us have the knowledge to implement and/or push such simple standards to help change the world for the better, very few of us seem willing to spend their time in such noble persuits.
Have geeks become so godlike with technology that we forget help the less techno-literate around us?
...and if so, Is that a bad thing, or simply the way things go?
Frankly, I say that what this guy has done is great IMHO, and I wish that I could get myself off my lazy ass to be as useful as he is, with what minute knowledge I do have
Teach kids that war is good
Teach them that killing ppl for the government is patriotism
and when all is said and done, tell them that video games are bad 'cause they give kids the wrong idea'
Sounds like business as usual
This definately comes as a surprise given the direction that HP has taken as of late. Many of the people I have known who work there consider Carly's main interest to be profit, and EVERYTHING else comes second. The idea that HP would push a royalty-free system is a wonderful surprise.
Isn't there someway to argue that encryption in the '00s is as important to personal freedom as firearms in the 1800's? Firearms are protected in the Bill of Rights because in our forefather's time they were thought necessary to ensure against the tyranny of our own government. Doesn't encryption fulfill a similar role nowadays? Just a thought, and a controversial one I'm sure...I'm not exactly sure I'd want to be comparing encryption to firearms to some people I know, but I think that there is a similarity in them (to a point of course :)
I wonder how long it takes before they add "Sith Lord" to the list?
Maybe now I can use that cell phone thingie I ought to actually make phone calls! Oh wait, I forgot...I live in eastern Washington. Doh!