The solution is to enforce token-based mail sending that has an associated real world cost, even if it's one the end-user can specify himself for unknown senders.
Ok. You just get *everyone* to change their MTA to handle this new system.:) I am sure that won't be hard at all.
All the stupid spammers have been killed off. All that remains now are the smart and quick ones. I know lots of anti-spammers like to go on about how stupid spammers are, but those anti-spammers are thinking in 1994 terms. It is almost 2003 and spammers have their shit together. Spammers are making money and will continue to make money as long as people buy stuff advertised in spam. Most people see spam as a 'TV Ad' on the internet. They don't see it as an evil thing that they must sped every waking moment fighting. It is just another ad. That is why the spammers will win.
"One of those contractors, Steve Harper, said he has sent 5 million e-mails so far. Earlier this month, he claims he sold 330,000 cars after sending a million ads in one day." And people wonder why spam still gets sent. It is because people buy stuff that is spamvertised.
So, which backbone do you use that does not host *any* spammers? The innocent people listed in SPEWS don't support spam. They just pay their bill for their internet connectivity.
Now, not only do I get to try and dodge all the morons with their cell phones and in-dash dvd players. Now, I have to avoid people compiling their kernels on the road. Sheesh.
You can't take a person's house in Florida. That is why a lot of spammers and other scumbags tend to live there. You can sue them for everything, but you can't get their house. So, the car, the boat, the furnature, everything will be in the wife's name.
I am talking about new. I am sure that if you wanted to root around in enough dumpsters, you could find a free one, but Joe Sixpack isn't going to do that.
I wanted to confirm what people are saying about the average Joe Schmoe not needing computer power. I'm still running an AMD K6 200 MHz processor from 1997. I have a DSL connection and Win 98SE (shudder). I surf the web with IE6, run Yahoo! Messenger, and check email with Eudora, typically all at once, often while also playing bridge on M$N Zone (sorry, M$-haters, it's the best free bridge I've found!). At my dialysis unit, I use a laptop with the K6-133 in it. I just surf, AIM, and read email on it. Someone gave it to me earlier in the year for free. It does exactly what I need it to do.
I hear people saying that it doesn't even come with a monitor? Most 'cheap' PCs don't. That has to be bought seperate. The monitor is going to double your cost tho.
For most people, who just want to e-mail their friends and surf the web, the machines are more than powerful enough.
My grand-dad went to buy a computer at a big chain store. He just wanted to look around on the web and email some friends/family. The sales droid tried to sell him a P4 2Ghz with all the bells and whistles. I ended up putting to gether a Duron 1.2G for $250 that does all he wants to do. Unless you are a big game freak or a geek (like most of us), people just don't need that much computing power.
Whose the tumor riddled rat that isn't patentable at all? C-A-N C-E-R M-O-U-S-E. Cancer Mouse! CancerMouse. We treat him with drugs and hope he doesn't die, die, die.
Sourceforge? Contains programs that might be used to subvert the Chineese efforts to restrict internet use.
MIT? Same as above as well as political speach that may be there.
The Learning Channel? Er...It shows animals 'doing it'?;) But, most likely for political reasons or there are documentaries that show China or it's leaders in a poor light.
Spammers only have to get a fraction of one percent of the people they spam to buy whatever they are selling to make a profit. The costs to the spammers are pretty small, so making some money isn't that hard. A sucker signs on to the internet every minute.
If you force it on them, they might decide to not use it at all. Maybe dual boot? If the kids like Linux, just ditch Windows and move on. If not, then they can go back.
Well, any spammer that goes thru the trouble of setting up overseas isn't just going to say "Send $ to 123 Main Street...", they are going to wrap themselves in several layers of re-direction. The spammer just has to have one 'layer' in a country that doesn't give a rat's ass about US subpoenas and the spammer will have no problems.
Well, there is a problem with that. Spammers will just move to avoid the blocks. You could just keep adding blocks to your blacklist, but the list would become useless when started blocking more legit mail then it did spam.
Some spammers *have* moved there. No, they haven't physically moved to China, but they have moved their operations there. This causes a problem for those who are trying to link a spam back to a US citizen. If the IPs and networks are all registered in China, how do you track it (easily) to Joe Spammer in Florida?
I forget the game, but I remember one where you would hit the f9 key (the docs called it the 'Boss Key') and a spreadsheet and a graph would come up on screen.
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Ok. You just get *everyone* to change their MTA to handle this new system. :) I am sure that won't be hard at all.
All the stupid spammers have been killed off. All that remains now are the smart and quick ones. I know lots of anti-spammers like to go on about how stupid spammers are, but those anti-spammers are thinking in 1994 terms. It is almost 2003 and spammers have their shit together. Spammers are making money and will continue to make money as long as people buy stuff advertised in spam. Most people see spam as a 'TV Ad' on the internet. They don't see it as an evil thing that they must sped every waking moment fighting. It is just another ad. That is why the spammers will win.
"One of those contractors, Steve Harper, said he has sent 5 million e-mails so far. Earlier this month, he claims he sold 330,000 cars after sending a million ads in one day." And people wonder why spam still gets sent. It is because people buy stuff that is spamvertised.
So, which backbone do you use that does not host *any* spammers? The innocent people listed in SPEWS don't support spam. They just pay their bill for their internet connectivity.
Now, not only do I get to try and dodge all the morons with their cell phones and in-dash dvd players. Now, I have to avoid people compiling their kernels on the road. Sheesh.
They are just hoping that everyone who invested in the last company has forgotten by now. :)
You can't take a person's house in Florida. That is why a lot of spammers and other scumbags tend to live there. You can sue them for everything, but you can't get their house. So, the car, the boat, the furnature, everything will be in the wife's name.
I am talking about new. I am sure that if you wanted to root around in enough dumpsters, you could find a free one, but Joe Sixpack isn't going to do that.
At my dialysis unit, I use a laptop with the K6-133 in it. I just surf, AIM, and read email on it. Someone gave it to me earlier in the year for free. It does exactly what I need it to do.
I hear people saying that it doesn't even come with a monitor?
Most 'cheap' PCs don't. That has to be bought seperate. The monitor is going to double your cost tho.
My grand-dad went to buy a computer at a big chain store. He just wanted to look around on the web and email some friends/family. The sales droid tried to sell him a P4 2Ghz with all the bells and whistles. I ended up putting to gether a Duron 1.2G for $250 that does all he wants to do. Unless you are a big game freak or a geek (like most of us), people just don't need that much computing power.
Whose the tumor riddled rat that isn't patentable at all?
C-A-N C-E-R M-O-U-S-E. Cancer Mouse! CancerMouse.
We treat him with drugs and hope he doesn't die, die, die.
Contains programs that might be used to subvert the Chineese efforts to restrict internet use.
MIT?
Same as above as well as political speach that may be there.
The Learning Channel? ;) But, most likely for political reasons or there are documentaries that show China or it's leaders in a poor light.
Er...It shows animals 'doing it'?
Well, go find us 100 more $40B projects to can and we'll get right to it. :)
Huh? The US national debt is at $6.3Trillion dollars. $40Billion wouldn't do squat.
I read somewhere that they sold out the little stations so that they could make it with this new bill. Not much to cheer about there.
Er...Wouldn't you have to shrink it down to 8 hours?
Spammers only have to get a fraction of one percent of the people they spam to buy whatever they are selling to make a profit. The costs to the spammers are pretty small, so making some money isn't that hard. A sucker signs on to the internet every minute.
He has been sued before. I don't think it has stoped him at all.
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If you force it on them, they might decide to not use it at all. Maybe dual boot? If the kids like Linux, just ditch Windows and move on. If not, then they can go back.
Well, any spammer that goes thru the trouble of setting up overseas isn't just going to say "Send $ to 123 Main Street...", they are going to wrap themselves in several layers of re-direction. The spammer just has to have one 'layer' in a country that doesn't give a rat's ass about US subpoenas and the spammer will have no problems.
Well, there is a problem with that. Spammers will just move to avoid the blocks. You could just keep adding blocks to your blacklist, but the list would become useless when started blocking more legit mail then it did spam.
Some spammers *have* moved there. No, they haven't physically moved to China, but they have moved their operations there. This causes a problem for those who are trying to link a spam back to a US citizen. If the IPs and networks are all registered in China, how do you track it (easily) to Joe Spammer in Florida?
A user so dense that it causes a 'singularity of stupidity'; a black-hole of cluelessness that destroys any clue that may pass by it.
I forget the game, but I remember one where you would hit the f9 key (the docs called it the 'Boss Key') and a spreadsheet and a graph would come up on screen.