In a sense you can say distros never die, as their GPL source will always live. Corel came back from the grave with Xandros, let's just hope that it doesn't 'die' again.
IMHO it's hard to sell any distro without giving some kind of 'sample' (i.e. ISOs online.) I can see that distros will not be a success as they don't really make any money at the moment. It is my belief that RedHat is not successful because of their desktop distro but because of their server distros and services they provide.
I'm sure we'll go through tons of forgotton distros but as time progresses, so will these distros progress, and eventually we'll have a distro with the true stability of Linux along with the smoothness of something like OS X/Windows/[insert favorite desktop OS here]
I support this project, maybe it won't be successful, but what if it does? If X is the real reason the Linux Desktop feels clunky and slow, then I'm all for this.
And for all you people saying "Why change? X is ubiquitous!" well, why change to Linux? Windows is ubiquitous.
Do you understand the title of System Administrator? Administrator!!! Administrators of schoools are in charge, likewise the Administration in America (the Presidency.) Why should end users decide what they want to use??? They're usually the idiots that demand having programs that slow down their computers and introduce viruses. Maybe it's different if you're a consultant, but not if you're a System Administrator.
administer Pronunciation Key (d-mn-str) v. administered, administering, administers v. tr.
A good thing? Jeez you must not work in tech support. I can only imagine now getting calls from "Ma and Pa Kettle" stating "my dawg gone internet broke!" Sweet Jesus, Serenity Now!
Look, I had absolute hell with the IBM 75GXP Deskstar HDD, but that whole 330 hour uptime was a whole other story. The fact is, if you're going to have a server that you're always going to keep on and EXPECT it to be reliable, don't use IDE. IDE is known not to be reliable, go with SCSI, they're made for servers.
Of course, since the Deskstar fiasco, I will never buy another hard drive from that company ever again. I use the HDD for desktop use and didn't leave it on that long, I installed a fan on it, just to keep it cool. That think broke down twice. I hated it. I've heard people saying "mine hasn't had anything go wrong with it." I'm sorry bub, but if half their drives are crapping out, and the other half isn't, you still have a major problem. Whatever IBM did to make those 75GXP Deskstars, I hope they never repeat it again.
Gah! It's "if pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?"
You just ruined a good joke by making people think less, therefore making it less funny. Thanks a lot!
Although I think looks can get old. I used iMacs all the time in High School. Yes, they were pretty but eventually you don't even care and you just want the POS to stop crashing and you want more than one button.
Case mods are different than that Macintosh crap. It's your own creation, YOU worked on it. Apple wants you to 'think different' but they are not allowing you to be creative and are basically offering the typical tract homes, that generally are the same but come in 4 similar models that have little differences.
Case mods, on the other hand, are your own creation. It's like comparing a hot rod daddy bought you to restoring a Galaxie 500 from a rusty body frame.
Amen to that brother! So many of these worthless humans HAVE to be in a miserable relationship to feel complete. I say screw it! Why should I go out of my way to find someone that isn't even right for me? Why should I have to change to get a woman? Fuck that! And it that means I'm going to be a 40 year old virgin, so be it. Porn keeps me happy.
I think both Gore and Lieberman understand that concept, but the problem are their main supporters haven't grasped that. Many moms out there are going to think that this game is going to make Little Johnny into a psychotic prostitute killing serial rapist. And if that ever happens they're going to blame those 'evil' video games rather than their poor parenting. So Censor! Censor! Censor!
All these people claiming they read every word in an EULA is full of shit. I would be tired of reading that repetitive crap for every software I install.
Do people actually think software companies take EULAs seriously? If they did, they would state everything in PLAIN ENGLISH, say:
* By clicking ok you agree not to pirate this software
Not "For score and....." They purposely want to bore you so you won't read it. You are all so full of shit, like that one dude that wears mario shirts and claims that he has a 10 1/2" dick from all the chicks tugging on it.
Of course there is no such thing as a "best distro" but this Desktop Debian will bring the best of both worlds. Sure, Debian's stable branch may be a bit outdated but it's stable, and that's one of the main things Linux should be advertised as an alternative to Windows. I'm sorry, but when programs in KDE start crashing, it makes Linux look bad. I know KDE crashing doesn't crash Linux but end users will still see this as instability in Linux.
Also Debian offers easy maintaining and upgrading, all was really lacking was ease-of-use for desktop users and newbies. If this "Desktop Debian" becomes a success I see it as a great step forward for Linux on the Desktop. Mandrake has made some great steps forward with things like universal menus, and easy configuration tools, we just need that and some stability without all the bloat. All in all, I still have faith that Linux will be a success on the desktop.
WTF? How is this flamebait? I was meta moderating comments and I saw this. I think some of the moderators are on crack. This person left informative refrences.
Ok, it seems kind of pointless to invest all this new technology when you are forced to use old tracks. The fact is, conventional rail is loud, slow, and dangerous. I say we invest money into building monorail around the country, then we won't to worry about over demanding maintenance, derailments, accidents (at-grade rail at fast speeds = no good at crossings), and overall noise of these "high speed" conventional rail. Monorails are quiet, safe, easy to maintain, and fast (Maglev technologies = 300+ mph).
We need to stop being the dinosaurs of transportation and take on a new technology that will surpass all other countries (if the Japanese don't beat us to it;)
Haha, typical that you would be passing the blame on the workers (of course you work for the devil and probably have no remorse, morals, etc.) it's sooo easy right? Look, I'd have to say that most IT workers and underpaid and overworked, even when the market was doing "good" most IT workers than were getting paid $80k were also working 80hrs/week+. Not like this is anything new, I guess the "Roaring 90's" will turn into the "Great Depression of the 00's" not like you care. You're having fun pressing the buttons, making our lives miserable. Will companies ever learn? No, it's all about short-term profit, and that's Capitalism for ya!
So go ahead and give "The People" false hope of fortunes and "Rags to Riches", I'm just hear to let you know that you're not fooling me, I know how the other half lives. Sure you feel comfy with your cushy jobs, but it'll all come back to you.
BTW, Most of the government "waste" goes to our bloated Military Industrial Complex and Corporate Welfare. Sure I don't have my country, I just hate people like you.
Haha I was thinking the same thing, I saw people in Slashdot actually supporting what O'Reilly said (would be a sad day indeed.) Then I realized (when I clicked the link) that it was O'Reilly of the book publishing company. Then again, hearing that from Bill wouldn't be newsworthy (especially from that ultra right wing "balanced" news station.)
Slashdot Mirror
In a sense you can say distros never die, as their GPL source will always live. Corel came back from the grave with Xandros, let's just hope that it doesn't 'die' again.
IMHO it's hard to sell any distro without giving some kind of 'sample' (i.e. ISOs online.) I can see that distros will not be a success as they don't really make any money at the moment. It is my belief that RedHat is not successful because of their desktop distro but because of their server distros and services they provide.
I'm sure we'll go through tons of forgotton distros but as time progresses, so will these distros progress, and eventually we'll have a distro with the true stability of Linux along with the smoothness of something like OS X/Windows/[insert favorite desktop OS here]
Don't worry, it's too damn expensive for any of the geeks to move here :p
I support this project, maybe it won't be successful, but what if it does? If X is the real reason the Linux Desktop feels clunky and slow, then I'm all for this.
And for all you people saying "Why change? X is ubiquitous!" well, why change to Linux? Windows is ubiquitous.
Just like the missles we had pointed to them in Turkey?
Do you understand the title of System Administrator? Administrator!!! Administrators of schoools are in charge, likewise the Administration in America (the Presidency.) Why should end users decide what they want to use??? They're usually the idiots that demand having programs that slow down their computers and introduce viruses. Maybe it's different if you're a consultant, but not if you're a System Administrator.
administer Pronunciation Key (d-mn-str)
v. administered, administering, administers
v. tr.
To have charge of; manage.
A good thing? Jeez you must not work in tech support. I can only imagine now getting calls from "Ma and Pa Kettle" stating "my dawg gone internet broke!" Sweet Jesus, Serenity Now!
Look, I had absolute hell with the IBM 75GXP Deskstar HDD, but that whole 330 hour uptime was a whole other story. The fact is, if you're going to have a server that you're always going to keep on and EXPECT it to be reliable, don't use IDE. IDE is known not to be reliable, go with SCSI, they're made for servers.
Of course, since the Deskstar fiasco, I will never buy another hard drive from that company ever again. I use the HDD for desktop use and didn't leave it on that long, I installed a fan on it, just to keep it cool. That think broke down twice. I hated it. I've heard people saying "mine hasn't had anything go wrong with it." I'm sorry bub, but if half their drives are crapping out, and the other half isn't, you still have a major problem. Whatever IBM did to make those 75GXP Deskstars, I hope they never repeat it again.
Gah! It's "if pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?" You just ruined a good joke by making people think less, therefore making it less funny. Thanks a lot!
Although I think looks can get old. I used iMacs all the time in High School. Yes, they were pretty but eventually you don't even care and you just want the POS to stop crashing and you want more than one button.
Case mods are different than that Macintosh crap. It's your own creation, YOU worked on it. Apple wants you to 'think different' but they are not allowing you to be creative and are basically offering the typical tract homes, that generally are the same but come in 4 similar models that have little differences.
Case mods, on the other hand, are your own creation. It's like comparing a hot rod daddy bought you to restoring a Galaxie 500 from a rusty body frame.
Macs are toasters and always will be toasters.
Amen to that brother! So many of these worthless humans HAVE to be in a miserable relationship to feel complete. I say screw it! Why should I go out of my way to find someone that isn't even right for me? Why should I have to change to get a woman? Fuck that! And it that means I'm going to be a 40 year old virgin, so be it. Porn keeps me happy.
I think both Gore and Lieberman understand that concept, but the problem are their main supporters haven't grasped that. Many moms out there are going to think that this game is going to make Little Johnny into a psychotic prostitute killing serial rapist. And if that ever happens they're going to blame those 'evil' video games rather than their poor parenting. So Censor! Censor! Censor!
I still imagine getting a "5x combo" for running over those damn yuppies on their cellphones.
All these people claiming they read every word in an EULA is full of shit. I would be tired of reading that repetitive crap for every software I install.
Do people actually think software companies take EULAs seriously? If they did, they would state everything in PLAIN ENGLISH, say:
* By clicking ok you agree not to pirate this software
Not "For score and....." They purposely want to bore you so you won't read it. You are all so full of shit, like that one dude that wears mario shirts and claims that he has a 10 1/2" dick from all the chicks tugging on it.
Of course there is no such thing as a "best distro" but this Desktop Debian will bring the best of both worlds. Sure, Debian's stable branch may be a bit outdated but it's stable, and that's one of the main things Linux should be advertised as an alternative to Windows. I'm sorry, but when programs in KDE start crashing, it makes Linux look bad. I know KDE crashing doesn't crash Linux but end users will still see this as instability in Linux.
Also Debian offers easy maintaining and upgrading, all was really lacking was ease-of-use for desktop users and newbies. If this "Desktop Debian" becomes a success I see it as a great step forward for Linux on the Desktop. Mandrake has made some great steps forward with things like universal menus, and easy configuration tools, we just need that and some stability without all the bloat. All in all, I still have faith that Linux will be a success on the desktop.
WTF? How is this flamebait? I was meta moderating comments and I saw this. I think some of the moderators are on crack. This person left informative refrences.
Ok, it seems kind of pointless to invest all this new technology when you are forced to use old tracks. The fact is, conventional rail is loud, slow, and dangerous. I say we invest money into building monorail around the country, then we won't to worry about over demanding maintenance, derailments, accidents (at-grade rail at fast speeds = no good at crossings), and overall noise of these "high speed" conventional rail. Monorails are quiet, safe, easy to maintain, and fast (Maglev technologies = 300+ mph).
;)
We need to stop being the dinosaurs of transportation and take on a new technology that will surpass all other countries (if the Japanese don't beat us to it
Oh the irony.
Isn't English pretty much the primary language in India anyways? Though it seems pretty fast-paced and hard to understand.
Only a 23 year old virgin? I'm an 18 year old virgin going on 40 year old virgin.
He'll buy one alright, but at the same time fire you :p
Let's face it, technology in capitalism will only be used to make the boss more money, while giving you no long-term benefit.
Haha, typical that you would be passing the blame on the workers (of course you work for the devil and probably have no remorse, morals, etc.) it's sooo easy right? Look, I'd have to say that most IT workers and underpaid and overworked, even when the market was doing "good" most IT workers than were getting paid $80k were also working 80hrs/week+. Not like this is anything new, I guess the "Roaring 90's" will turn into the "Great Depression of the 00's" not like you care. You're having fun pressing the buttons, making our lives miserable. Will companies ever learn? No, it's all about short-term profit, and that's Capitalism for ya!
So go ahead and give "The People" false hope of fortunes and "Rags to Riches", I'm just hear to let you know that you're not fooling me, I know how the other half lives. Sure you feel comfy with your cushy jobs, but it'll all come back to you.
BTW, Most of the government "waste" goes to our bloated Military Industrial Complex and Corporate Welfare. Sure I don't have my country, I just hate people like you.
...unless some sticks a floppy into me...
At least I don't have to worry about getting a virus :p
w3rd
Haha I was thinking the same thing, I saw people in Slashdot actually supporting what O'Reilly said (would be a sad day indeed.) Then I realized (when I clicked the link) that it was O'Reilly of the book publishing company. Then again, hearing that from Bill wouldn't be newsworthy (especially from that ultra right wing "balanced" news station.)