Most of the new "kitchen sized" extinguishers are actually K's now....but its just not advertised as such. Yes, and ABC will probably work fine....but the K's are really great to have if you leave them by the stove where you're like to grab it if there's a grease fire.
ABC extinguishers just coat it with greenish, really nasty tasting (don't ask) powder. Type K's saponify the grease, just like those expensive commercial kitchen hood systems (actually, that's where these came from.....in the mid 90s, they replaced the agent in these hoods to deal with the newer high temperature greases restaurants are using as the old agent didn't really saponify peanut oil and the like properly...this new stuff does).
But I agree with you ont he simplicity of the ABC.....I see it as a matter of location. You hang the K int he kitchen (yes, it will still knock down other types of fires...just not as effectively) and the ABC somewhere else. Most people who actually have home extinguishers knock a fire down with the closest one and then proceed to unload every last extinguisher in the house on it anyway......so if you're like most people, you'd eventually get around to the proper type.
Actually, you want a type "K" in your kitchen these days. They are primarily wet-chemical extinguishers that are designed to properly work with the types of cooking greases likely to be on a stove these days.
Yes, I'm a fire marshal (part time....small town). And not to defind the guy who claims to be a firefighter, I have to say that most firefighters don't know jack about fire safety. As a firefighter, you get there after its already too late, and put wet stuff on red stuff. Which is the whole reason I got into the fire marshal's office.....you actually get to to prevention.
I want the option to switch to a Windows LPAR running concurrently on the box
LPAR? LPAR?????
You, sir, have obviously used a real machine before. Which means your posts may be filled with actual facts. You must stop posting immediately.
I didn't say it caused it. But the scenario is REAL LIFE, so if you're "solution" doesn't address it (and my point was that is does not) it's not a valid solution for most businesses that would use somehting like this.
Yes....there is a class of document that will work exactly as you say.
Now tell me how you address the other classes of documents.....with another system? And yes, I'm talking about the CFO sending the CEO the 10K before he files it. I'm talking about the office manager sending the payroll spreadsheet to the president so he can look at it first. I'm talking about the R&D group making the latest patent filing available to the rest of the R&D group without the entire company + contractors being able to see it.
Of course, any of this being a problem depends on whether you think security through obscurity is a valid be-all-end-all security mechanism.
Create a file share with a folder for each user only writable by them and accessible through a web server by everyone. Encourage users to put documents that they would share with others in that folder. They can then browse it with their web browser and copy and paste a link to someone. This has the added benefit of being able to update the document and since everyone just has the link, they see the current version whenever they open the document.
...and the added benefit of creating a single-tiered permissions scheme, where every inside user has access to any document available to any other user through this method.
BBzzzzzzzzttt. Back to your parent's basement. Get a job in a decent sized IT department. Learn something. Come back when what you posted above embarasses you.
What kind of stupid-ass mail system is designed to store calendaring anyway?
Ummm...none the I'm aware of. Exchange is not a "mail system". The mail in Exchange is just a component of the GROUPWARE SUITE.
Yes, lots of you can do just fine with email and email only. Lost of you can do just fine "archiving" to your local hard drive, and not having group scheduling, or shared contacts. But in many parts of the real world, we IT folk configure tools for users that empower them to do what it is that they do however they choose to do it. And we're happy to contune dealing with the challenges required to solve the problems that arise along the way.
Exchange is a bear. It needs to be tricked into doing what you want it to do as much as it gets traditionally administered, but it is, hands down, one of only two tools in its class (Lotus Notes being the other) that are capable of performing for the type of groupware most real communication-driven businesses need. And by perform, I am including the occasional chewing gum and duct tape fix to keep things moving. So I'm hardly a fanboi....and a matter of fact I WANT MORE CHOICES BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE NOW SUCKS. But that's all there is at the moment.
Please respond to this thread with the other options, one per reply, to which I and others will happily list the reasons why they simply won't do in most situations.
Na, I don't think "fuckers" is quite the word I'd use.
They're little better than a cartel with the way they act.
I personally know someone who has been billed by the Red Cross for blood administered to him ON A BATTLEFIELD. Yeah...that same blood that was given to them in exchange for a cup of OJ and a sticker. That is, SOME of that blood, as they sell lots of it to blood products manufacturers also.
I'm not sure if this is a common thing in the US, but in my old house (in Seattle) there were several circuits that were "bridged" (right term?) to create 230V circuits. These were used for the awful electric baseboard heating, and also maybe some of the larger electrical appliances.
Not sure what that has to do with this story at all.....but....they aren't bridged.
Standard household power is 240v in the US. You get three wires from the pole (the "triplex"). Neutral, and two phases. Grab one phase and the neutral bar and you have (usually...dependong on the trnasformer) 115 to 120v. Grab two phases and you get 240v.
Go to the inductrial park. You get 5-wire power a lot of times. You grab a phase and the neutral bar and you get 115/120v. You grab 2 phases and you end up with 208v. Grab all three and you have "three phase" that lots of high load electric motor equipment seems to like. (the last wire of the 5 is a ground....I thnk...I don't get that close to power ingress to care) No, I have no idea how that happens. When I ask an "electrician" they tell me "it's just the kind of transformer you're hooked up to", which is really no answer at all.
So, anyhoo....this isn't a technical explanation. And I've been too lazy for many years to get a real technical explanation. It's a practical explnation based on what actually happnens, so some of the reaoning may be off. I have no doubt I'll be corrected (severely) in that case.
People are stupid when it comes to any sort of technology. They don't read the cryptic chinglish manuals that come with their stuff. They attention span is so short for this type of thing that they often do things wrong. Also, the average person can't tell the difference between high quality video OR audio, only how large the screen is and how loud the sound is.
First off, people should be aware that MS was also fined 500 million euros, quite a lot of money, wouldn't you agree.
I seem to remember a comment on the Daily Show the last MS go around that went somehting like "at that rate, Microsoft will run out of money just 100 years after the earth crashes into the sun."
Maybe you need to talk to your finance department about those prices. $800 for a "real" server is a fairy tale. Or maybe your just a basement dweller using refurbished dells to run p2p out of your mom's closet.
OK...so a SunFire X2100 isn't a real server? And I have no idea where your coming from on software licensing.
Look up in the thread. This is about how it's moronic to build a real server out of parts when so many servers with actual support from a real company are available for similar or possibly even better prices.
I have no idea what tangent you're trying to take this off on, but I'm not really interested in it.
If you've been using the Opteron, and it sounds like in production, I'd love to hears some details about good/compatable/stable hardware. I really, really, really don't want the next system I purchase to be another hot, slow Xeon.
It's amazing to me how many people on/. claim to be building "servers" for their "companies". Time to wake up and smell the market. It's not all that much cheaper on the front end to build your own server (in small quantities) and it's certianly not as reliable and won't have the same level of support as something like this. I'm currently running several of these.
Saving a little bit of money on the front end just isn't worth it to me. But then again, I have better/more important things to do than babysit hardware.
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That's quite...ummmm...interesting. Why is a CTO coding?
Most of the new "kitchen sized" extinguishers are actually K's now....but its just not advertised as such. Yes, and ABC will probably work fine....but the K's are really great to have if you leave them by the stove where you're like to grab it if there's a grease fire.
ABC extinguishers just coat it with greenish, really nasty tasting (don't ask) powder. Type K's saponify the grease, just like those expensive commercial kitchen hood systems (actually, that's where these came from.....in the mid 90s, they replaced the agent in these hoods to deal with the newer high temperature greases restaurants are using as the old agent didn't really saponify peanut oil and the like properly...this new stuff does).
But I agree with you ont he simplicity of the ABC.....I see it as a matter of location. You hang the K int he kitchen (yes, it will still knock down other types of fires...just not as effectively) and the ABC somewhere else. Most people who actually have home extinguishers knock a fire down with the closest one and then proceed to unload every last extinguisher in the house on it anyway......so if you're like most people, you'd eventually get around to the proper type.
Actually, you want a type "K" in your kitchen these days. They are primarily wet-chemical extinguishers that are designed to properly work with the types of cooking greases likely to be on a stove these days.
Yes, I'm a fire marshal (part time....small town). And not to defind the guy who claims to be a firefighter, I have to say that most firefighters don't know jack about fire safety. As a firefighter, you get there after its already too late, and put wet stuff on red stuff. Which is the whole reason I got into the fire marshal's office.....you actually get to to prevention.
VPC does not run on Intel Macs.
I want the option to switch to a Windows LPAR running concurrently on the box
LPAR? LPAR?????
You, sir, have obviously used a real machine before. Which means your posts may be filled with actual facts. You must stop posting immediately.
Ummm....yeah.
I didn't say it caused it. But the scenario is REAL LIFE, so if you're "solution" doesn't address it (and my point was that is does not) it's not a valid solution for most businesses that would use somehting like this.
Yes....there is a class of document that will work exactly as you say.
Now tell me how you address the other classes of documents.....with another system? And yes, I'm talking about the CFO sending the CEO the 10K before he files it. I'm talking about the office manager sending the payroll spreadsheet to the president so he can look at it first. I'm talking about the R&D group making the latest patent filing available to the rest of the R&D group without the entire company + contractors being able to see it.
Of course, any of this being a problem depends on whether you think security through obscurity is a valid be-all-end-all security mechanism.
Sadly, I doubt you ever will see a 6-pin Firewire connector on a notebook.
cough..MacBook Pro.....cough
Create a file share with a folder for each user only writable by them and accessible through a web server by everyone. Encourage users to put documents that they would share with others in that folder. They can then browse it with their web browser and copy and paste a link to someone. This has the added benefit of being able to update the document and since everyone just has the link, they see the current version whenever they open the document.
...and the added benefit of creating a single-tiered permissions scheme, where every inside user has access to any document available to any other user through this method.
BBzzzzzzzzttt. Back to your parent's basement. Get a job in a decent sized IT department. Learn something. Come back when what you posted above embarasses you.
What kind of stupid-ass mail system is designed to store calendaring anyway?
Ummm...none the I'm aware of. Exchange is not a "mail system". The mail in Exchange is just a component of the GROUPWARE SUITE.
Yes, lots of you can do just fine with email and email only. Lost of you can do just fine "archiving" to your local hard drive, and not having group scheduling, or shared contacts. But in many parts of the real world, we IT folk configure tools for users that empower them to do what it is that they do however they choose to do it. And we're happy to contune dealing with the challenges required to solve the problems that arise along the way.
Exchange is a bear. It needs to be tricked into doing what you want it to do as much as it gets traditionally administered, but it is, hands down, one of only two tools in its class (Lotus Notes being the other) that are capable of performing for the type of groupware most real communication-driven businesses need. And by perform, I am including the occasional chewing gum and duct tape fix to keep things moving. So I'm hardly a fanboi....and a matter of fact I WANT MORE CHOICES BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE NOW SUCKS. But that's all there is at the moment.
Please respond to this thread with the other options, one per reply, to which I and others will happily list the reasons why they simply won't do in most situations.
You got it right.
Rule #5 of network security: enumerate goodness, not badness.
it goes right along with rule number 1: default=deny, not permit
Recently had to reinstall Windows because of the errors that kept cropping up after I uninstalled Norton...Screwed the MBR six ways to sunday.
/mbr
If you think the MBR being "screwed" is the reason you had to reinstall Windows, you're a moron.
fdisk
Na, I don't think "fuckers" is quite the word I'd use.
They're little better than a cartel with the way they act.
I personally know someone who has been billed by the Red Cross for blood administered to him ON A BATTLEFIELD. Yeah...that same blood that was given to them in exchange for a cup of OJ and a sticker. That is, SOME of that blood, as they sell lots of it to blood products manufacturers also.
I'm not sure if this is a common thing in the US, but in my old house (in Seattle) there were several circuits that were "bridged" (right term?) to create 230V circuits. These were used for the awful electric baseboard heating, and also maybe some of the larger electrical appliances.
Not sure what that has to do with this story at all.....but....they aren't bridged.
Standard household power is 240v in the US. You get three wires from the pole (the "triplex"). Neutral, and two phases. Grab one phase and the neutral bar and you have (usually...dependong on the trnasformer) 115 to 120v. Grab two phases and you get 240v.
Go to the inductrial park. You get 5-wire power a lot of times. You grab a phase and the neutral bar and you get 115/120v. You grab 2 phases and you end up with 208v. Grab all three and you have "three phase" that lots of high load electric motor equipment seems to like. (the last wire of the 5 is a ground....I thnk...I don't get that close to power ingress to care) No, I have no idea how that happens. When I ask an "electrician" they tell me "it's just the kind of transformer you're hooked up to", which is really no answer at all.
So, anyhoo....this isn't a technical explanation. And I've been too lazy for many years to get a real technical explanation. It's a practical explnation based on what actually happnens, so some of the reaoning may be off. I have no doubt I'll be corrected (severely) in that case.
People are stupid when it comes to any sort of technology. They don't read the cryptic chinglish manuals that come with their stuff. They attention span is so short for this type of thing that they often do things wrong. Also, the average person can't tell the difference between high quality video OR audio, only how large the screen is and how loud the sound is.
...film at 11.
Of course I missed the point of the article. I didn't even read the whole summary.
But do not forget that the creditors HOLDS THE TITLE to that object you are paying for, which means THEY OWN IT.
/.....everything in black and white. But it's not all that simple.
Typically, but not always. The last vehicle I bought was secured by my house, not itself. Why? Better rate on the loan.
I know...this is
First off, people should be aware that MS was also fined 500 million euros, quite a lot of money, wouldn't you agree.
I seem to remember a comment on the Daily Show the last MS go around that went somehting like "at that rate, Microsoft will run out of money just 100 years after the earth crashes into the sun."
Crossover office can bridge that gap by letting you run ms office
XP
, photoshop,
6.0
dreamweaver, etc.
From 2 years ago.
Yes...it's nice to be able to do something with it, but the support is horribly out of date.
...I know I've heard this one before. I think it starts with "You find three letters from the previous manager. The first one says 'open me now'....."
Back in the pre-dot.bubble days we wasted oddles of money on "real" servers. 350's, 250's and a couple of Spark 5 workstations
I went back and read your comment again. "Spark" workstations? That explains it all. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Have a nice day.
Maybe you need to talk to your finance department about those prices. $800 for a "real" server is a fairy tale. Or maybe your just a basement dweller using refurbished dells to run p2p out of your mom's closet.
OK...so a SunFire X2100 isn't a real server? And I have no idea where your coming from on software licensing.
Look up in the thread. This is about how it's moronic to build a real server out of parts when so many servers with actual support from a real company are available for similar or possibly even better prices.
I have no idea what tangent you're trying to take this off on, but I'm not really interested in it.
Thats not the way it works for a lot of us in the *gasp* real world.
I wasn't aware that my company operated in some sort of imagainary fairy universe.
And if you can't afford to spend $800 on a server, you're doing something a.) very wrong or b.) that doesn't actually require a real server.
If you've been using the Opteron, and it sounds like in production, I'd love to hears some details about good/compatable/stable hardware. I really, really, really don't want the next system I purchase to be another hot, slow Xeon.
/. claim to be building "servers" for their "companies". Time to wake up and smell the market. It's not all that much cheaper on the front end to build your own server (in small quantities) and it's certianly not as reliable and won't have the same level of support as something like this. I'm currently running several of these.
It's amazing to me how many people on
Saving a little bit of money on the front end just isn't worth it to me. But then again, I have better/more important things to do than babysit hardware.
The best solution to this problem isn't regulation, it's the replacement of DNS with something non-centralized.
Care to explain what DNS has to do with a layer 3 peering arrangement?
Oh...that's right...nothing at all.