Only in America can someone break into a house, attempt to steal things and/or harm the rightful occupants, and recieve a lesser punishment than the people he attempted to victimize.
I find that the difference is: when I install some hardware in Windows and it doesn't have the driver, the hardware usually comes with a disk that I can just put in. With Linux however, it's time to compile kernel modules. When grandma has to learn how to use modprobe just to use her new camera it makes Linux look like a poor choice.
The logic used on this site is atrocious. It seems that unless an OS is 100% secure then you're not allowed to say that it's more secure than another OS, and unless an OS has 100% hardware support then you're not allowed to say that it has better hardware support than another OS.
You may as well argue that it's wrong to say that a car is faster than a bicycle, because sometimes cars have to go pretty slowly.
To that, I'd say as for security, there is truly secure and not truly secure. But for the non-truly secure, there is insecure non-truly secure, and there is more secure non-truly secure. Linux may not be as secure as it would be locked in a box, but it's still more secure than Windows not locked in a box.
On Linux you don't even need a virus scanner, and you don't need to worry about e-mail attachments. Last time I looked, mutt didn't automatically execute attachments and didn't allow scripts to disguise themselves as legitimate files.
Actually, there are a load of people who want to be plumbers, in the UK at least. They get paid shitloads of money and are in high demand because there aren't enough of them. Apparently there are huge waiting lists to get onto plumbing courses, and countless stories of people with degrees making shit money giving up and becoming plumbers instead.
I disagree with that. The best way to learn is the hardest, the best way to learn is the way which requires the most in-depth knowledge. Don't use a distro. Distros do things for you, you don't learn anything when ready-made scripts configure and install things. Do everything from scratch, every config file, every script, everything. That way you'll learn everything. Don't use a GUI unless you configure it all from scratch. Going in at the deep end FORCES you to learn. If you go in at the shallow end you can paddle about, only making half-hearted efforts to try something harder because you're fine as you are.
Yeah, using command line programs, editing config files, building RPMs and compiling programs from source is just what those users want who are intimidated by the command line. You've just solved the problem of getting Linux on the desktop!
I have contributed hundreds of thousands of lines to open source software, including x.org, glibc, the linux kernel, as well as doing tons to promote Linux usage in the UK. In fact, in the last two years I've gotten Linux onto around 200,000 computers across the country through my advocacy and consultancy. Just because I'm not mentioned in every other slashdot thread doesn't mean I'm not doing anything! Can't I get some recognition for my hard work please?
Well, why not? It's already had a good innings, not every TV programme has to be leeched for every penny it's worth. No point diluting its reputation with countless more series like what happened with Friends etc. Leave it alone: the fewer episodes there are the better you'll remember them.
Yeah, apt-get, but then what happens when apt-get goes wrong and there's no support contract?
If you change the system from a working one to a new one, and the new one has no support contract, and the new one goes wrong, it's all YOUR FAULT. If you use the existing system, with a support contract, and it goes wrong, it's the fault of the contractors, or whoever installed it, not you.
Also, there are more reliable ways of updating things than apt-get. I for one wouldn't trust a critical system to Debian.
So? The author didn't claim that religion in schools was a problem, the starter of the thread claimed that it was. Are posters on slashdot not allowed to have opinions other than the ones in the article? Who made you the fucking boss?
Please mod the parent post down!
Why? Because you don't like it?
SINCE THE MODERATORS SAW IT FIT TO MOD DOWN MY ORIGINAL POST, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN:
I'm not surprised they saw fit to do so, you're just spamming slashdot trying to abuse the moderation system to quash opinions you don't like.
This time with a +2 modifier so it gets heard.
And now you're abusing the +2 modifier to get your pointless spam across. Do you actually have a point or are you just having a spasm?
Yeah, you can write fair, biased comments, but that doesn't mean they won't be modded down.
I've seen political discussions on slashdot before, and it's sickening how many posts are modded down because someone doesn't agree with them. It's abuse of moderation but no-one seems to mind.
Even then, I don't think discussing politics on a US-based site is much good. This may seem harsh coming from an outsider, but when I see Americans arguing politics I'm reminded of school-children. It ALWAYS comes down to name-calling, stereotypes, illogical arguments, personal attacks and outright venom. A politics section might be useful if the people using it would debate like mature adults rather than kids.
Funnily enough, I got the opposite impression of the two. Gollum sucked. His movements were all grossly overexaggerated, and his hair moved so unnaturally, and was so obviously CG, that it was a constant distraction all the time he was on screen.
Yeah, they say that the CGI was great, but I though it still looked rather out of place and awkward. Gollum was treated like a cartoon with the graphics and the over-acting, which didn't really fit in with a live-action film. The eagles were awful as well.
I think the spider was a lot better, and the cities, although I think some of them were modelled properly. Although did anyone else feel that the distances in the film were too short? Minas Tirith and Osgiliath were 20 miles apart, but in the film they looked a short walk away, and Mordor only looked a couple of miles across.
Seems to be a common pattern when advocating OSS software:
"Don't use that shitty commercial software, use this superior OSS alternative!" "OK. Wait, it doesn't even have these simple fixtures..." "Well, it's not 1.0 yet, you shouldn't be using it!"
Or:
"Don't use that shitty commercial software, use this superior OSS alternative!" "OK. Wait, it's broken and buggy..." "You didn't pay anything for it so fix it yourself!"
If software shouldn't be used by the masses then stop advocating it to the masses. If you're going to argue that Firefox is sub 1.0 and shouldn't be used, don't complain when sites are incompatible with it or when people at work force you to use IE instead.
Who will then kill the man who killed the criminal? And who will then kill him? You?
That's just the sort of idiocy to be expected from slashdot. By your logic, I suppose when a copper arrests someone he should be arrested for false imprisonment, and whoever arrested him should be arrested for false imprisonment, and so on. If you're going to debate capital punishment, at least do it honestly rather than with fallacies.
So you're saying that only popular people with friends are allowed to drink? And that other people who dare to drink have to go to AA meetings because they're obviously alcoholics? Drinking is not defined as social interaction, it's consuming alcoholic liquids.
Doing it alone or just so you can get drunk is a bad thing.
Says you, luckily your opinion is only a minority of puritans and Americans, everyone else gets by fine downing the pints without some busybody do-gooder interfering.
The difference is, someone from the middle of nowhere with no qualifications, no references, no experience and barely any knowledge of the language, can't just go and write something in the Encyclopedia Brittanica.
Another thing I thought of w.r.t wikipedia, if it becomes valid as a source of citations like a proper encyclopedia, what's to stop someone writing in what they want to prove, citing the article they've just written, and using it to 'prove' what they asserted? By the time someone has fixed the vandalism, they've already cited it, and it's as valid a citation as any.
Everyone drinks to get drunk, that's the whole point. As for drinking alone, what's wrong with that? Not everyone has people to drink with. Leave him alone, you're a boring puritan bastards.
If you end up using it on the bus/train, it's just going to get nicked. Mark my words. You don't use a $500 toy on the bus without it being nicked eventually.
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100+ watt CRT versus 30 watt LCD monitor; 100 watt incandescent light bulbs versus 25 watt compact fluorescent. These technologies are readily available, are in many states are now economical alternatives. So use them!
Cool! Just send a few hundred quid in the post and I'll go and buy an LCD monitor, and throw away my £20 CRT! While you're there, send a few more hundred to replace my lightbulbs with those flourescent ones!
If I was selling music, wouldn't I would want to know what's actually popular with the masses?
If I was SELLING music, I'd be more interested in what's actually popular with people BUYING music. I don't think I'd care much what people who wanted it all for free were interested in.
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Only in America can someone break into a house, attempt to steal things and/or harm the rightful occupants, and recieve a lesser punishment than the people he attempted to victimize.
You misspelt 'Britain'.
I find that the difference is: when I install some hardware in Windows and it doesn't have the driver, the hardware usually comes with a disk that I can just put in. With Linux however, it's time to compile kernel modules. When grandma has to learn how to use modprobe just to use her new camera it makes Linux look like a poor choice.
The logic used on this site is atrocious. It seems that unless an OS is 100% secure then you're not allowed to say that it's more secure than another OS, and unless an OS has 100% hardware support then you're not allowed to say that it has better hardware support than another OS.
You may as well argue that it's wrong to say that a car is faster than a bicycle, because sometimes cars have to go pretty slowly.
To that, I'd say as for security, there is truly secure and not truly secure. But for the non-truly secure, there is insecure non-truly secure, and there is more secure non-truly secure. Linux may not be as secure as it would be locked in a box, but it's still more secure than Windows not locked in a box.
On Linux you don't even need a virus scanner, and you don't need to worry about e-mail attachments. Last time I looked, mutt didn't automatically execute attachments and didn't allow scripts to disguise themselves as legitimate files.
Actually, there are a load of people who want to be plumbers, in the UK at least. They get paid shitloads of money and are in high demand because there aren't enough of them. Apparently there are huge waiting lists to get onto plumbing courses, and countless stories of people with degrees making shit money giving up and becoming plumbers instead.
I disagree with that. The best way to learn is the hardest, the best way to learn is the way which requires the most in-depth knowledge. Don't use a distro. Distros do things for you, you don't learn anything when ready-made scripts configure and install things. Do everything from scratch, every config file, every script, everything. That way you'll learn everything. Don't use a GUI unless you configure it all from scratch. Going in at the deep end FORCES you to learn. If you go in at the shallow end you can paddle about, only making half-hearted efforts to try something harder because you're fine as you are.
Technically, 'Luna' is just 'Moon' in another language, so it's no different than calling the moon 'The Moon'.
Yeah, using command line programs, editing config files, building RPMs and compiling programs from source is just what those users want who are intimidated by the command line. You've just solved the problem of getting Linux on the desktop!
I think you're all over-reacting. Like you wouldn't have found out about it anyway from about a million other sources.
I have contributed hundreds of thousands of lines to open source software, including x.org, glibc, the linux kernel, as well as doing tons to promote Linux usage in the UK. In fact, in the last two years I've gotten Linux onto around 200,000 computers across the country through my advocacy and consultancy. Just because I'm not mentioned in every other slashdot thread doesn't mean I'm not doing anything! Can't I get some recognition for my hard work please?
Well, why not? It's already had a good innings, not every TV programme has to be leeched for every penny it's worth. No point diluting its reputation with countless more series like what happened with Friends etc. Leave it alone: the fewer episodes there are the better you'll remember them.
Yeah, apt-get, but then what happens when apt-get goes wrong and there's no support contract?
If you change the system from a working one to a new one, and the new one has no support contract, and the new one goes wrong, it's all YOUR FAULT. If you use the existing system, with a support contract, and it goes wrong, it's the fault of the contractors, or whoever installed it, not you.
Also, there are more reliable ways of updating things than apt-get. I for one wouldn't trust a critical system to Debian.
So? The author didn't claim that religion in schools was a problem, the starter of the thread claimed that it was. Are posters on slashdot not allowed to have opinions other than the ones in the article? Who made you the fucking boss?
Please mod the parent post down!
Why? Because you don't like it?
SINCE THE MODERATORS SAW IT FIT TO MOD DOWN MY ORIGINAL POST, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN:
I'm not surprised they saw fit to do so, you're just spamming slashdot trying to abuse the moderation system to quash opinions you don't like.
This time with a +2 modifier so it gets heard.
And now you're abusing the +2 modifier to get your pointless spam across. Do you actually have a point or are you just having a spasm?
Yeah, you can write fair, biased comments, but that doesn't mean they won't be modded down.
I've seen political discussions on slashdot before, and it's sickening how many posts are modded down because someone doesn't agree with them. It's abuse of moderation but no-one seems to mind.
Even then, I don't think discussing politics on a US-based site is much good. This may seem harsh coming from an outsider, but when I see Americans arguing politics I'm reminded of school-children. It ALWAYS comes down to name-calling, stereotypes, illogical arguments, personal attacks and outright venom. A politics section might be useful if the people using it would debate like mature adults rather than kids.
Funnily enough, I got the opposite impression of the two. Gollum sucked. His movements were all grossly overexaggerated, and his hair moved so unnaturally, and was so obviously CG, that it was a constant distraction all the time he was on screen.
Yeah, they say that the CGI was great, but I though it still looked rather out of place and awkward. Gollum was treated like a cartoon with the graphics and the over-acting, which didn't really fit in with a live-action film. The eagles were awful as well.
I think the spider was a lot better, and the cities, although I think some of them were modelled properly. Although did anyone else feel that the distances in the film were too short? Minas Tirith and Osgiliath were 20 miles apart, but in the film they looked a short walk away, and Mordor only looked a couple of miles across.
Seems to be a common pattern when advocating OSS software:
"Don't use that shitty commercial software, use this superior OSS alternative!"
"OK. Wait, it doesn't even have these simple fixtures..."
"Well, it's not 1.0 yet, you shouldn't be using it!"
Or:
"Don't use that shitty commercial software, use this superior OSS alternative!"
"OK. Wait, it's broken and buggy..."
"You didn't pay anything for it so fix it yourself!"
If software shouldn't be used by the masses then stop advocating it to the masses. If you're going to argue that Firefox is sub 1.0 and shouldn't be used, don't complain when sites are incompatible with it or when people at work force you to use IE instead.
Who will then kill the man who killed the criminal? And who will then kill him? You?
That's just the sort of idiocy to be expected from slashdot. By your logic, I suppose when a copper arrests someone he should be arrested for false imprisonment, and whoever arrested him should be arrested for false imprisonment, and so on. If you're going to debate capital punishment, at least do it honestly rather than with fallacies.
Drinking is a social intereaction with friends.
So you're saying that only popular people with friends are allowed to drink? And that other people who dare to drink have to go to AA meetings because they're obviously alcoholics? Drinking is not defined as social interaction, it's consuming alcoholic liquids.
Doing it alone or just so you can get drunk is a bad thing.
Says you, luckily your opinion is only a minority of puritans and Americans, everyone else gets by fine downing the pints without some busybody do-gooder interfering.
The difference is, someone from the middle of nowhere with no qualifications, no references, no experience and barely any knowledge of the language, can't just go and write something in the Encyclopedia Brittanica.
Another thing I thought of w.r.t wikipedia, if it becomes valid as a source of citations like a proper encyclopedia, what's to stop someone writing in what they want to prove, citing the article they've just written, and using it to 'prove' what they asserted? By the time someone has fixed the vandalism, they've already cited it, and it's as valid a citation as any.
Everyone drinks to get drunk, that's the whole point. As for drinking alone, what's wrong with that? Not everyone has people to drink with. Leave him alone, you're a boring puritan bastards.
That would be an ecumenical matter.
If you end up using it on the bus/train, it's just going to get nicked. Mark my words. You don't use a $500 toy on the bus without it being nicked eventually.
You stupid fucking anti-MS troll.
They've had the last one ready for years.
100+ watt CRT versus 30 watt LCD monitor; 100 watt incandescent light bulbs versus 25 watt compact fluorescent. These technologies are readily available, are in many states are now economical alternatives. So use them!
Cool! Just send a few hundred quid in the post and I'll go and buy an LCD monitor, and throw away my £20 CRT! While you're there, send a few more hundred to replace my lightbulbs with those flourescent ones!
If I was selling music, wouldn't I would want to know what's actually popular with the masses?
If I was SELLING music, I'd be more interested in what's actually popular with people BUYING music. I don't think I'd care much what people who wanted it all for free were interested in.