If you don't like industry encroachment...then don't play along. Don't buy the products....don't consume the products(aka downloading movies, music, software etc...) Go towards other sources....If you don't like Microsoft, go to Apple....Don't like Apple? Go to Linux or *BSD..... Don't like the music industry? Go to the independents....Listen to free music....Learn to play an instrument.
Industries, typically, only last as long as they have customers....(unions and farmers seem to be excluded from normal conditions...) Goverments last as long as they(the rulers) are breathing....It's much harder to destroy an industry(boycott) than goverment(revolution).
My only point is that there are far worse men in the world than Jack Valenti.....The outrage seems overblown.
Don't like the game? Don't play in the game. There is free music to enjoy/create. (I'm not sure about the independent movie industry.)
I was worried that the/. community would go overboard in their artificial hate for a man they never met or knew. I'm glad we save our energy to tackle real problems like world hunger, war, government encroachment, etc...
If you can't see the difference in the violence in let's say beating up hookers for money (GTA) and historical violence like saving private ryan, the passion, schindler's list, etc, you have a poor sense of perspective.
I think "those groups" have bigger problems than boycotting video game companies, tv and disney, etc...
but there IS a difference between GTA and the Passion, and it wouldn't be hypocritical for a Christian parent to refuse their child GTA but make sure they watch the aforementioned movies.
This kinda of reminds me of going into a store and seeing people's bad checks on the wall....
People sue at the drop of the hat nowadays....and the lawyers are waiting in the shadows.
A person will NOT be denied life threatening health care... but what if someone with a history of lawsuits(frivilous or not) wants high risk surgery from you? Would you be willing to bet your career and finanicial well being on them?
Indian food, you can smell it from the adjacent apartment complex. I remember taking the trash out during a curry making session and as I was walking back wondering "What the hell is that smell?"....Then I figured it out.:)
I'd have a problem of being stuck in space with someone with a GI problem or bad personal hygiene. But onions, garlic, ginger, etc are the best!
I read your post. If you don't like the terms of licensing a game, then don't license the game. Period. Better yet, try to negotiate more favorable terms. That's how business works.
The goal of running a business is to make a profit. You lamented how the "unfair" fees would cut into your profit. What's the difference between you wanting a profit and the company licensing the game wanting a profit?
Let me get this straight, you can call me a child,( "now go and sit in the corner....") and I can't call someone an idiot? Seems hypocritical....
hey idiot.... id software released the source code(GPL'd) for: Doom, Quake, Quake 2.... not to mention they allow their games to be heavily modded.... they don't have to relase the game source code and development tools for free....but they do.
Let's not forget all the programming resources(and $$$) that Carmack has given to the community(not to mention Linux)....
So....John(not Jon....) Carmack deserves his nice car... Keep up the good work, id! nbfn
Closed and opensource software will both be used for good and evil....deal with it.
Example: Opensource encryption software can be used to protect liberties and the prying eyes of big government. It can also be used to hide child porn or terrorist activities... should we abolish the encryption software just because it can be used for evil?
I'd really hate to see a new modified license that restricts use of software based on political bias.
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better hit Taco Bell.
Oh yeah! Survival of the fittest, bitches!
Wouldn't that be survival of the fattest?
The deer won't know what hit them!
Please?
Cue Flanders....
"The best flavor ever. Plain!"
Forget sports...
how about those "Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!" moments in the movies?
Hours and hours enjoyment!
Laziness, ignorance of the law, confusion regarding the GPL, budget issues, etc...
The usual suspects...
I'm in Tehran. I hope my Seinfeld torrents finish. Everything is going fine...#@&$(*&NO CARRIER
More invasive advertising? Collection of user data by a "questionable" third party?
Isn't this exactly the sort of behavior we despise from companies?
Well...that's a simple fix.
If you don't like industry encroachment...then don't play along. Don't buy the products....don't consume the products(aka downloading movies, music, software etc...)
Go towards other sources....If you don't like Microsoft, go to Apple....Don't like Apple? Go to Linux or *BSD.....
Don't like the music industry? Go to the independents....Listen to free music....Learn to play an instrument.
Industries, typically, only last as long as they have customers....(unions and farmers seem to be excluded from normal conditions...)
Goverments last as long as they(the rulers) are breathing....It's much harder to destroy an industry(boycott) than goverment(revolution).
My only point is that there are far worse men in the world than Jack Valenti.....The outrage seems overblown.
Don't like the game? Don't play in the game.
There is free music to enjoy/create. (I'm not sure about the independent movie industry.)
Are you seriously lumping Hitler, Castro and Valenti together?
REALLY?
Will the textbooks five hundred years from now speak of the great 20th century tyrants and mention Hitler, Stalin, Castro and Jack "PG-13" Valenti?
How would that work? Hitler murdered his millions....Stalin murdered his tens of millions....Valenti was a tool of the MAFIAA....
I was worried that the /. community would go overboard in their artificial hate for a man they never met or knew.
I'm glad we save our energy to tackle real problems like world hunger, war, government encroachment, etc...
He meant labs...but remember the US to Mexico conversion rates.
wait a sec...
that's a chick!?!?
I'd better run out and get a Brita filter. Obviously, my current vodka isn't cutting it......
but they will become entangled in all the red tape. And the giant mother spider will come out and feast on their quivering nimble bodies.....
Node 23543: "What's the sickest thing you've done for cash?"
Node 25685: "I once had to render a goat hobbit monkey sex video...I was depressed for a year!"
Node 65423: "I had to do pitch correction on three hours of Britney Spears audio! I still find myself waking up and crying like a baby..."
Node 27928: "Once, I had to work on a Lucas proje..."
All of the other nodes: "Say no more! You poor bastard!"
Unidentified node : "You whore!"
The MACS made Greedo shoot first!
If you can't see the difference in the violence in let's say beating up hookers for money (GTA) and historical violence like saving private ryan, the passion, schindler's list, etc, you have a poor sense of perspective.
I think "those groups" have bigger problems than boycotting video game companies, tv and disney, etc...
but there IS a difference between GTA and the Passion, and it wouldn't be hypocritical for a Christian parent to refuse their child GTA but make sure they watch the aforementioned movies.
This kinda of reminds me of going into a store and seeing people's bad checks on the wall....
People sue at the drop of the hat nowadays....and the lawyers are waiting in the shadows.
A person will NOT be denied life threatening health care...
but what if someone with a history of lawsuits(frivilous or not) wants high risk surgery from you? Would you be willing to bet your career and finanicial well being on them?
Information is freedom, right?
Indian food, you can smell it from the adjacent apartment complex. I remember taking the trash out during a curry making session and as I was walking back wondering "What the hell is that smell?"....Then I figured it out. :)
I'd have a problem of being stuck in space with someone with a GI problem or bad personal hygiene.
But onions, garlic, ginger, etc are the best!
What do you mean by "corporate and greedy"?
I read your post. If you don't like the terms of licensing a game, then don't license the game. Period. Better yet, try to negotiate more favorable terms. That's how business works.
The goal of running a business is to make a profit. You lamented how the "unfair" fees would cut into your profit. What's the difference between you wanting a profit and the company licensing the game wanting a profit?
Let me get this straight, you can call me a child,( "now go and sit in the corner....") and I can't call someone an idiot?
Seems hypocritical....
nbfn
hey idiot....
id software released the source code(GPL'd) for:
Doom, Quake, Quake 2....
not to mention they allow their games to be heavily modded....
they don't have to relase the game source code and development tools for free....but they do.
Let's not forget all the programming resources(and $$$) that Carmack has given to the community(not to mention Linux)....
So....John(not Jon....) Carmack deserves his nice car...
Keep up the good work, id!
nbfn
hehehe....
nbfn
What a great book....
nbfn
Closed and opensource software will both be used for good and evil....deal with it.
Example:
Opensource encryption software can be used to protect liberties and the prying eyes of big government. It can also be used to hide child porn or terrorist activities...
should we abolish the encryption software just because it can be used for evil?
I'd really hate to see a new modified license that restricts use of software based on political bias.