Why, were you planning on re-selling the software?
Nobody put a gun to your head when you bought it, and its function is in no way altered by the developer offering it at a different price. If you wanted it cheaper, then you should have just waited; most products get discounted eventually.
Just once, when one of these government prats is bragging about their latest and greatest hard-to-forge ID paraphernalia, I hope SOME reporter will point out the uncomfortable fact that none of the 9/11 perps were travelling with forged documents. They had passports in their own names, and credit cards. They made NO attempt to conceal their identities, and in fact were most likely hoping to be hailed as heroes by their fellow fanatics.
If the bad guys were still in the business of trying to bring down airplanes, they'd use people with squeaky-clean records to do the attacks. Let's not kid ourselves, they HAVE people with squeaky-clean records.
The easy way for any given talented staff member to remove the top six levels of deadwood is to change to a different company or division.
Exactly. There's a massive brain-drain going on right now at the Evil Empire, and their recruitment is a lot harder than it ever was before, because the days when you could count on your options to be worth a few million bucks in the near future are gone. Google, Apple, Novell, IBM, and any number of start-ups all have far better gigs to offer prospective employees than Microsoft does.
You're shifting the goalposts: you didn't call for disclosure, you said that the government should regulate speech in a commercial context. Sorry, I'm not willing to hand over that power just because you're afraid you might be fooled by a lying huckster.
Given the choice between moving to the US or to Cuba, I would most certainly choose Cuba. In a heartbeat.
Wow. Do you actually believe that anyone in Cuba besides Castro and his band of thugs are "empowered" in any way at all?
until you get your head out of your ass
Oh, that's priceless... You would choose one of the last two Stalinist dictatorships on earth over the USA, and you think I'm the one with his head up his ass?
Man, I love you pinkos. The greatest comedy writers on earth couldn't make this stuff up.
The Government is allowed to regulate all kinds of speech.
Nope. See the bill of rights. The government is specificially enjoined from regulating speech, religion, and the press, with only a few exceptions that are frequently and vigorously litigated.
Free speech should be for people, anything that is "said" by a business should be regulated
Nonsense. I'm just as entitled to say whatever I want whether I'm speaking for myself or my employer. If I lie, and it causes you some harm, then there's a whole body of tort law to deal with it.
I deserve to know if a company is trying to sell me something but disguising it as something else.
You probably deserve to know if your lover is cheating on you too, but I'm not prepared to toss out another amendment from the bill of rights just to serve that purpose.
You of course realize that the same - exactly the same - argument was made against every single new version of Windows ever released.
Nice try at shifting the goalposts there, but you asked what *I* said about XP. Longhorn was a whole new level of disaster. It cost billions, and it failed to ship.
The coders are the people at the bottom at MS. They can't effect the change, because of all the layers of deadwood above them. The change has to come from above the management, that is to say, from the shareholders. This isn't going to happen until the Mac has taken over 20% of desktops and Linux has taken the same amount from the server side of their business, so it could be as much as five years away. -jcr
You said that change would have to come from the bottom. It can't. That's the point you're missing.
Let me guess, you predicted the same "disaster" when XP was released, right?
No, I just said that XP was crap, and didn't fix the grievous mistakes of NT.
Longhorn was the biggest software project failure of all time, at least in the private sector. Vista is just a face-saving move to ship an XP service pack and pretend that it's the major update that was promised for the last six years. Vista also differs greatly from Windows 95, which was actually eagerly recieved by customers, because it really was substantially better than its predecessor.
Change in Microsoft has to come from the bottom, not the top. Nope. Microsoft has no shortage of talented coders. The problem is in their management, and that's not going to change until the Vista disaster causes a shareholder revolt, removing their top six levels of deadwood.
Go read The Peter Principle if you want to understand how a company gets this way.
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, I'd consider growing up a little
Good advice, you should take it.
-jcr
Do you have any idea how inefficient that is?
About the same as a transformer.
you're an ex-apple engineer, efficiency is irrelevant to you
Dude, what is your fucking problem? Did Steve jobs steal your girlfriend or something?
-jcr
Anything electrical is easy. Just use a bunch of ring-shaped conductors around the axis of rotation.
Or just induction couplings. No contacts needed.
-jcr
Why, were you planning on re-selling the software?
Nobody put a gun to your head when you bought it, and its function is in no way altered by the developer offering it at a different price. If you wanted it cheaper, then you should have just waited; most products get discounted eventually.
-jcr
Just once, when one of these government prats is bragging about their latest and greatest hard-to-forge ID paraphernalia, I hope SOME reporter will point out the uncomfortable fact that none of the 9/11 perps were travelling with forged documents. They had passports in their own names, and credit cards. They made NO attempt to conceal their identities, and in fact were most likely hoping to be hailed as heroes by their fellow fanatics.
If the bad guys were still in the business of trying to bring down airplanes, they'd use people with squeaky-clean records to do the attacks. Let's not kid ourselves, they HAVE people with squeaky-clean records.
-jcr
The easy way for any given talented staff member to remove the top six levels of deadwood is to change to a different company or division.
Exactly. There's a massive brain-drain going on right now at the Evil Empire, and their recruitment is a lot harder than it ever was before, because the days when you could count on your options to be worth a few million bucks in the near future are gone. Google, Apple, Novell, IBM, and any number of start-ups all have far better gigs to offer prospective employees than Microsoft does.
-jcr
What's wrong with Microsoft?
Most of their management.
-jcr
I hope when your father dies someone knocks on your mother's door claiming that he had bought a bible for her birthday and had one more payment left.
I don't know how gullible your mother is, but mine is quite aware that my father has been an atheist all his life.
-jcr
You're shifting the goalposts: you didn't call for disclosure, you said that the government should regulate speech in a commercial context. Sorry, I'm not willing to hand over that power just because you're afraid you might be fooled by a lying huckster.
-jcr
Spoken like someone who has ZERO clue what advertising is actually all about.
Oh, advertising is the least of the things he doesn't understand...
-jcr
Given the choice between moving to the US or to Cuba, I would most certainly choose Cuba. In a heartbeat.
Wow. Do you actually believe that anyone in Cuba besides Castro and his band of thugs are "empowered" in any way at all?
until you get your head out of your ass
Oh, that's priceless... You would choose one of the last two Stalinist dictatorships on earth over the USA, and you think I'm the one with his head up his ass?
Man, I love you pinkos. The greatest comedy writers on earth couldn't make this stuff up.
-jcr
If I followed you around all day long
You'd find out what a restraining order is.
Advertising is evil, and shouldn't be permitted.
Oh, fuck off and move to Cuba.
-jcr
The Government is allowed to regulate all kinds of speech.
Nope. See the bill of rights. The government is specificially enjoined from regulating speech, religion, and the press, with only a few exceptions that are frequently and vigorously litigated.
-jcr
This is a non-issue. People will buy or not buy what they like, and all the astroturfing in the world can't polish a turd.
-jcr
Free speech should be for people, anything that is "said" by a business should be regulated
Nonsense. I'm just as entitled to say whatever I want whether I'm speaking for myself or my employer. If I lie, and it causes you some harm, then there's a whole body of tort law to deal with it.
I deserve to know if a company is trying to sell me something but disguising it as something else.
You probably deserve to know if your lover is cheating on you too, but I'm not prepared to toss out another amendment from the bill of rights just to serve that purpose.
-jcr
Not soon. As for whether it will ever happen, who knows?
-jcr
remember running third-party shells on top of Win 3x just to get some functionality?
Ouch! That must have sucked. I was hiding out on NeXTSTEP at the time.
-jcr
Didn't you hear about the rollback to the Windows 2003 Server codebase? It made all the papers.
Spin it all you like, but Longhorn is a failed project that dwarfs taligent, IBM Office Vision and Copeland combined.
-jcr
Well, having never navigated the Yangtze, nor even set foot in China, my conscience is clear on this one.
-jcr
You of course realize that the same - exactly the same - argument was made against every single new version of Windows ever released.
Nice try at shifting the goalposts there, but you asked what *I* said about XP. Longhorn was a whole new level of disaster. It cost billions, and it failed to ship.
-jcr
There are some companies that remain highly competent for a very long time. 3M is the first example that springs to mind.
-jcr
The coders are the people at the bottom at MS. They can't effect the change, because of all the layers of deadwood above them. The change has to come from above the management, that is to say, from the shareholders. This isn't going to happen until the Mac has taken over 20% of desktops and Linux has taken the same amount from the server side of their business, so it could be as much as five years away.
-jcr
You said that change would have to come from the bottom. It can't. That's the point you're missing.
Let me guess, you predicted the same "disaster" when XP was released, right?
No, I just said that XP was crap, and didn't fix the grievous mistakes of NT.
Longhorn was the biggest software project failure of all time, at least in the private sector. Vista is just a face-saving move to ship an XP service pack and pretend that it's the major update that was promised for the last six years. Vista also differs greatly from Windows 95, which was actually eagerly recieved by customers, because it really was substantially better than its predecessor.
-jcr
Change in Microsoft has to come from the bottom, not the top.
Nope. Microsoft has no shortage of talented coders. The problem is in their management, and that's not going to change until the Vista disaster causes a shareholder revolt, removing their top six levels of deadwood.
Go read The Peter Principle if you want to understand how a company gets this way.
-jcr
Yep, sounds more like IBM every day.
-jcr