I'm confused. On the posts before on this topic for the last few years there seemed a mild consensus for pragmatic regulation of drones. And you'd generally have several pages of detailed reason based calm discussion. Now all of a sudden every poster on this thread is passionately against drone laws and hurling nothing but ad hominins about how Trump is a monkey? The quality of discourse here really has plummeted.
Censorship, Oppression, and Omnipresent Government Control, in the US, China, and globally are just fine but don't you dare refuse to bake a cake for a SSM wedding! Some lines cannot be crossed.
Yes this is a tory government, but nowadays antiporn and antiprostitution stuff is carried out just as much if not more by the feminist crowd than the conservative religious crowd since the UK is more secular than ever.
from media looking to stir up controversy. The advertisers need Youtube more than Youtube needs them. But unfortunately Google themselves sympathize with censorship and pearlclutching so they go along with it.
You must have missed the daily submissions here and on other sites where people extol the virtues of allowing Google/Yahoo/Twitter etc to censor and ban people from their services to their hearts content while excoriating any attempt to waylay the AT&T merger.
I'm for net neutrality. I just think its a little rich that people are so vehemently for it while at the same time supporting things that will essentially put us in the exact same place as if we repealed it entirely.
1. Net Neutrality: OMG Its the END OF THE WORLD that corporations will get to choose what they want to do with their own infrastructure no matter how much this will suppress competition and free speech. FU Trump for allowing this to happen!
2. Internet Censorship/Corporate Mergers: Its WONDERFUL that corporations will get to choose what they want to do with their own infrastructure regardless of how much this will suppress competition and free speech. FU Trump for not allowing this to happen!
Go out and see how easy it is to have an internet voice let alone an ebusiness that reaches a significant number of people without relying on anything from Google/Microsoft/Apple/Facebook/Twitter/Amazon and all the other companies in the Silicon Valley mafia.
I see a lot of people whining about the FCC's stance turning around and gloating about corporate freedom everytime Apple/Google/Twitter/Facebook/Cloudflare takes down or censors another White nationalist app or alt-right website.
In the Trending section, which you can't turn off afaik, the headlines at least to me seem very skewed. Very rarely will a story other than one with a leftwing spin appear and often the headlines themselves are ridiculous. I have several different accounts with different habits and this appears to hold true in all of them. Now Facebook has an audience of around 1 billion. Imagine the cumulative effect of all those people even just passing their eyes unconsciously over the biased Trending section or picking up on any one of several other subliminal cues in their day to day life. This could possibly be one of the greatest propaganda vehicles invented.
This is a step further down the slippery slope. Now Google is not only treating its employees questionably its injecting itself into into how other companies handles its users.
As for everyone who repeats the refrain that 'its a private business they can do what they want' I'm surprised how quickly there seems to be an outburst of support among leftists for corporate rights. I guess you're for monopolies and against net neutrality and internet and universal healthcare access too?
Its that this is part of a massive Salemesque witchhunt hysteria. If they had a problem with the site why didn't they ban it before? Why didn't they take down those statues in the past century? This sort of rapid bandwagoning should frighten anyone.
Also just because its legal for private entities to censor doesn't mean its moral.
If Gates wants to do something that was unquestionably sincere maybe he should give back that money to all the people he swindled so that they can be the revered philanthropists rather than use it to intentionally/inadvertently pump up his own reputation. Otherwise its just like a bankrobber donating to charity. Admittedly the money is going to a lot of good causes but its also going to some bad causes too. And the people he crushed could have donated that money all the same.
When he’s as rich as he is theres nothing left to buy but your own legacy, a rational psychopath could do what Gate’s is doing so why he gets so much credit is puzzling. No doubt, he’s shown he’s very smart but he’s also shown he’s a ruthless businessman, a businessman who perhaps is still playing the same game he’s been playing just at a higher level. Instead of throwing money to buy businesses he’s throwing money around to buy hearts and minds. Maybe he’s truly changed but I’ve seen no evidence.
I don't approve of either the Scalise shooter's ideological faction or the Charlotteville driver's faction but I don't remember this guilt by association purge being enacted all the times leftwing violence was committed.
Toward the right. The left had no problem blaming the 'black bloc' for the violence in their protest but now its open season on all conservatives because of this one man?
Slashdot Mirror
I'm confused. On the posts before on this topic for the last few years there seemed a mild consensus for pragmatic regulation of drones. And you'd generally have several pages of detailed reason based calm discussion. Now all of a sudden every poster on this thread is passionately against drone laws and hurling nothing but ad hominins about how Trump is a monkey? The quality of discourse here really has plummeted.
Censorship, Oppression, and Omnipresent Government Control, in the US, China, and globally are just fine but don't you dare refuse to bake a cake for a SSM wedding! Some lines cannot be crossed.
Yes this is a tory government, but nowadays antiporn and antiprostitution stuff is carried out just as much if not more by the feminist crowd than the conservative religious crowd since the UK is more secular than ever.
from media looking to stir up controversy. The advertisers need Youtube more than Youtube needs them. But unfortunately Google themselves sympathize with censorship and pearlclutching so they go along with it.
Content will be censored and controlled at the website level (ie the Google/Facebook/Twitter/etc monopoly) rather than the ISP level.
You must have missed the daily submissions here and on other sites where people extol the virtues of allowing Google/Yahoo/Twitter etc to censor and ban people from their services to their hearts content while excoriating any attempt to waylay the AT&T merger.
I'm for net neutrality. I just think its a little rich that people are so vehemently for it while at the same time supporting things that will essentially put us in the exact same place as if we repealed it entirely.
1. Net Neutrality: OMG Its the END OF THE WORLD that corporations will get to choose what they want to do with their own infrastructure no matter how much this will suppress competition and free speech. FU Trump for allowing this to happen! 2. Internet Censorship/Corporate Mergers: Its WONDERFUL that corporations will get to choose what they want to do with their own infrastructure regardless of how much this will suppress competition and free speech. FU Trump for not allowing this to happen!
Do I get the Nova episode for free or am I screwed because I was too loyal a Blizzard customer?
and sell it to advertisers and the government along with all the other PI you give him. For your protection of course.
So much for the 'you don't like it leave' procensorship talking point. https://voat.co/v/announcement...
among the kneejerk 'hur durr Trump sux' comments.
So wanting to make sure people can't be silenced online simply for having unpopular beliefs makes me a racist? Okay them I'm a proud racist.
Go out and see how easy it is to have an internet voice let alone an ebusiness that reaches a significant number of people without relying on anything from Google/Microsoft/Apple/Facebook/Twitter/Amazon and all the other companies in the Silicon Valley mafia.
What good is a neutral isp if you are immediately censored to oblivion downstream?
I see a lot of people whining about the FCC's stance turning around and gloating about corporate freedom everytime Apple/Google/Twitter/Facebook/Cloudflare takes down or censors another White nationalist app or alt-right website.
In the Trending section, which you can't turn off afaik, the headlines at least to me seem very skewed. Very rarely will a story other than one with a leftwing spin appear and often the headlines themselves are ridiculous. I have several different accounts with different habits and this appears to hold true in all of them. Now Facebook has an audience of around 1 billion. Imagine the cumulative effect of all those people even just passing their eyes unconsciously over the biased Trending section or picking up on any one of several other subliminal cues in their day to day life. This could possibly be one of the greatest propaganda vehicles invented.
Isn't evading government control what its supposed to do?
This is a step further down the slippery slope. Now Google is not only treating its employees questionably its injecting itself into into how other companies handles its users. As for everyone who repeats the refrain that 'its a private business they can do what they want' I'm surprised how quickly there seems to be an outburst of support among leftists for corporate rights. I guess you're for monopolies and against net neutrality and internet and universal healthcare access too?
Its that this is part of a massive Salemesque witchhunt hysteria. If they had a problem with the site why didn't they ban it before? Why didn't they take down those statues in the past century? This sort of rapid bandwagoning should frighten anyone. Also just because its legal for private entities to censor doesn't mean its moral.
Where are the calls for fat balding men in romance movies or action flicks?
If Gates wants to do something that was unquestionably sincere maybe he should give back that money to all the people he swindled so that they can be the revered philanthropists rather than use it to intentionally/inadvertently pump up his own reputation. Otherwise its just like a bankrobber donating to charity. Admittedly the money is going to a lot of good causes but its also going to some bad causes too. And the people he crushed could have donated that money all the same. When he’s as rich as he is theres nothing left to buy but your own legacy, a rational psychopath could do what Gate’s is doing so why he gets so much credit is puzzling. No doubt, he’s shown he’s very smart but he’s also shown he’s a ruthless businessman, a businessman who perhaps is still playing the same game he’s been playing just at a higher level. Instead of throwing money to buy businesses he’s throwing money around to buy hearts and minds. Maybe he’s truly changed but I’ve seen no evidence.
I don't approve of either the Scalise shooter's ideological faction or the Charlotteville driver's faction but I don't remember this guilt by association purge being enacted all the times leftwing violence was committed.
Toward the right. The left had no problem blaming the 'black bloc' for the violence in their protest but now its open season on all conservatives because of this one man?
Violence and censorship? No big...but don't you DARE call me a fascist!