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Discord Bans Servers That Promote Nazi Ideology (theverge.com)
A popular video game chat service with over 25 million users announced today that it had shut down "a number of accounts" following violence instigated by white supremacists over the weekend. Discord, the service "which lets users chat with voice and text, was being used by proponents of Nazi ideology both before and after the attacks in Charlottesville, Virginia," reports The Verge. "We will continue to take action against Nazi ideology, and all forms of hate," the company said in a tweet. From the report: Discord declined to state how many servers had been affected, but said it included a mix of old accounts and accounts that were created over the weekend. Among the affected servers was one used by AltRight.com, a white nationalist news site. The site's homepage includes a prominent link to a Discord chat which is now broken. The company said it does not read private messages exchanged on its servers. Members of those groups reported messages in the chats for violating Discord's terms of service, the company said, and it took action. "When hatred like this violates our community standards we act swiftly to take servers down and ban individual users," the company said in a statement. "The public server linked to AltRight.com that violated those terms was shut down along with several other public groups and accounts fostering bad actors on Discord. We will continue to be aggressive to ensure that Discord exists for the community we set out to support -- gamers."
They should have checked with some three-letter agencies first. They might have appreciated leaving them up a few days.
Texas A&M University just canceled the scheduled "Unite the Right" rally that was set for 9/11 and now Discord is closing down Nazi accounts on a game chat service.
It's hard out there for "white male discontent".
You are welcome on my lawn.
It's a private company so they can do whatever they want with a service, but it always burns me how you'll see these companies bend over backwards to appease leftist sensibilities but ignore the left-wing extremists. The protests in Charlottesville were over attempts to rewrite history. They were peaceful until left-wing agitators showed up and started causing violence. You can tell by the police response - the police generally left the Unite the Right protestors alone and only had to deal with the violent so-called "antifa" fascists who were there to cause trouble.
Yet are we seeing antifa websites taken down and Black Lives Matter servers shut down? No. No we are not. Everyone is focusing on the people who were the victims of violence and ignoring things like the two police officers who the violent left got killed.
So, fine, you've made your choice, Discord. And I now know never to use your service, because you care more about virtue signaling that shutting down violent extremists.
why are nazi's so shit at tech
White nationalists: we have a clear message of nationalism and family unity.
Internet: nobody cared 70 years ago, and you're about to find out no one cares now.
Good people go to bed earlier.
... make me aware of a chat site I never knew existed?
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
I'm no fan of these idiots, but any time we start stifling free expression I think we're on dangerous ground. I know Discord is a private company and it's their right to do it. However, I think there's value in letting it go. Let these fools demonstrate what fools they are. At least everyone will know who they are and what they're all about. Censoring them doesn't change their mind it just forces them underground.
I don't believe in karma, I just call it like I see it.
Boy does BeauHD come up a lot in these whiny propaganda heavy threads.
https://tox.chat/
Seem like a good option.
https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/...
Likely safe from "we know better than you" trash-people.
https://wire.com/en/
Maybe?
https://about.riot.im/
Maybe?
http://www.teamspeak.com/en/te...
Guess running your own server removes the issues.
https://ring.cx/
Seem like it could work.
https://www.evolvehq.com/welco...
That's the stuff which came with AMD drivers before? Likely not safe for your freedoms.
https://app.twitch.tv/ .. Anything owned by a company like that I guess want to act like the anti-white globalists and their followers in idiocy want so .. likely not a good option? Unless one already use it and they haven't fucked around yet.
Curse was direct competitor to Discord before. But Twitch
Just wonderful volk who just happen to not have any problems loading people into ovens...
Have you ever met a real Nazi? I have. And they aren't like in the movies. They are by and large likable people who love their country. I would never be a Nazi myself. For one thing, I'm not a joiner. But it is unfair to demonize them. They are just every day work-a-day Joes. Leave them alone.
Yes, they're people. We don't have to hate them to hold them accountable for what they support. We don't have to give them protection from being removed from a private company's service, either.
Reality is a slackware box running on a 386 tucked away in god's sock drawer.
This move is virtue signalling for Discord. It's the same nonsense that drove the Merck CEO resigning from the American Manufacturing Council.
The more important problem is how to take care of both the extreme right wing morons (neo Nazis / KKK, who are not the alt-right that the mainstream/social media is attempting to associate the extremists with), as well as the extreme left wing idiots like Antifa and BLM. The issue is who is funding this rabble-rousing on all sides. Follow that money trail and prosecute them by any means to shut them down.
The goal of all of this nonsense is to create FUD in the populace and divide the nation to take away everyone's rights. Recognize this for what it is and we'll actually bring this crap to and end and move forward as a nation.
If you believe in Net Neutrality, should this also include 1st Amendment protections for content that is legal but offensive?
I'm not sure if we want to add ISPs to the (relatively small) list of entities where the First Amendment is explicitly applied. On the other hand, I'm afraid of the consequences if internet companies have unlimited rights (subject to other existing laws) to decide what content is and is not made available on the internet.
(Do Telephone Companies have to right to refuse telephone service, and utilities the right to refuse power, water, etc? I don't know!)
It takes a few brain cells and an apt-get install to get an IRC server up and running.
Or just use one of the dozens already out there.
Fuck off
More important than doing the right thing, which is to ignore them.
What's wrong with the world today, in a nutshell.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
There's an elephant in the room that no one's talking about.
"Unite the right" was not afforded the protection of law during their rally.
Furthermore, law enforcement purposely directed the rally-goers into the antifa crowd, putting them in significant danger.
The Antifa crowd was flinging urine, poop, and one ralley-goer suffered permanent eye damage from having acid (!) thrown at him. The police were widely observed as doing nothing to stop the fighting.
Think about this for a minute: The government withdrew the protection of law from a group based on their political ideals. The state governor and the mayor simply decided not to enforce the law for an ideology they don't like.
This is a profoundly scary thought - that a political faction within the government can simply decide not to enforce the law in order to promote their narrative.
I'm going to have to side with the ACLU on this one. Hate speech is protected speech, and UniteTheRight should have been allowed to peaceably assemble.
A service named Discord is banning people who are causing discord? They need to rename their service.
The situation is degenerating into mob justice now:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/08/14/a-twitter-campaign-is-outing-people-who-marched-with-white-nationalists-in-charlottesville
Battle Royal... Nazis vs. Fascists... Which ones are the good guys?
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Wouldn't trust a word from that SJW corporatist site.
You know those aren't just movies, right?
Only crack the nuts that crack. You don't put the ones that don't crack in the sack.
that not all of those were NAZI sites...
I don't approve of either the Scalise shooter's ideological faction or the Charlotteville driver's faction but I don't remember this guilt by association purge being enacted all the times leftwing violence was committed.
It's fucking hilarious how the right-wingers here are running around with swastikas saluting Hitler, then they go crying about nazis being socialists and leftists when reminded about how we fought a war with the motherfuckers.
do you have a source that is a reputable news organization for that?
Which part? The ACLU just confirmed that the police were told to stand down, and the permanent eye damage thing comes directly from the victim.
"Nazi ideology"? Use of that term is a joke.
The AltRight is not about Nazi ideology. Spencer has addressed the topic at length for anyone who actually cares, which clearly most don't since they just want to spew shit against any movement that unites the interests of native European peoples.
Basically anyone who doesn't support open borders, unlimited immigration, and ethnic replacement = Nazi.
This thread only proves many of the AltRight's basic points.
No one would even know Discord was being used in such a way unless they opened their mouths like this.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Hard fascism and hard socialism are not the same, but both are authoritarian. This puts them in the lower part of a Nolan chart, the upper part of a Pace News chart, or the right side of a Pournelle chart.
I happen to enjoy it because it brings my VOIP and chat (which is just IRC with some extra front-end features) into one app.
But how much RAM does this "one app" use while running in the background, compared to an IRC client like HexChat? Some PCs are still being sold with only 2 GB, particularly compact laptops. As I understand it, Discord is like recent versions of Skype: an Electron app that uses over 300 MB because it's running inside a copy of Chromium.
why do you want to remove the history of that ?
IT IS WHAT IT IS AND WHAT HAPPENED....
and they are free to walk past it right?
They also are free not too..?
BUT ALL SHOULD REMEMBER THERE PAST OR ThEY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT
Neo-nazi blah blah blah....I'm out raged! Right this! Left that! Ideology! Concern concern! Bad words! Focus on the 6" screens! Meanwhile, while you idiots are distracted, worse things are happening. They only need the red herring to last a week or two.
"Sub ethnicities" = variations within one ethnic group = same primary ethnic group
You didn't invalidate my point.
Do these website banning the alt right accounts not realize that no one has been convicted, yet? US has now had a long history of neo nazi and clan marches with nothing more than elevated rhetoric. Yet when ANTIFA shows up, violence ensues. Do they not understand that banning these groups could constitute defamation? The only person charged, so far, might win a self-defense case. The police did refuse (not fail, but refuse) to protect the alt right rally from the ANTIFA. If this guy can prove that he felt the people he came to rally with were under threat of physical violence because police actively looked the other way, it's gonna be hard to convict him for murder or anything else. The police was already there and they didn't even separate the 2 opposing sides.
So Japan must really be off the scale Nazi then? What about China? What about Indonesia or in fact most other countries in the world which are ethnically monolithic and wish to remain that way?
So we have established that it is OK, acceptable, and legal for a political movement to silence its foes? I bet the Nazis are laughing - once times change, and they always do, they will do the same to you!
Leave Nazis alone! They're humans!
Humans responsible for a world war, but who is counting?
It is still censorship if you stop them from saying it. I do not support right wing nut jobs but I totally support free speech. Just as I am free to say that they are morons they are free to say all the moronic crap they like.
I love stacking my barbecues in the shed at the end of summer - you can't beat a bit of grill on grill action.
Well, that's gone and educated me a little. Although I instinctively reject charts that try and label politics as left or right because individuals invariably get stereotyped by a crude placement on the chart, disregarding their actual views or behaviour towards any specific policy or issue.
The Pournelle chart at least avoids that left/right divide but will suffer the same stereotype issues. I think the rationality axis could be better named too; while it offers an interesting mechanism to differentiate political creeds, describing some as rational and others as irrational works against objective evaluation and exploration.
In particular writing off extremist views as irrational is a barrier to understanding and countering those views.
But all three charts only work at the macro level. Individual communists still have a sense of personal ownership of belongings, anarchists form power structures, white supremacists can believe in the welfare state. Where is the chart that acknowledges this individuality and supports exploration of the issues and not the identities?
I'm saying nothing. I'm not a Nazi.
I don't disagree with what they did, but Discord is a bad product either way, it's has an awful UI and it's filled with cringeworthy memes, plus they probably sell your data. Use teamspeak or mumble.
Its finally time to get rid of all these left wing sites! Good riddance!
They have identical ideologies.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
The BLM and Antifa are racist and bigoted individuals that have no place in this country.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Apparently you haven't seen the thuggery by the left, aided by cops - whether it is racist left of Berkeley or their fellow travellers in Charlottesville.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Are you white and tired of multiculturalism? You're a Nazi as far as Slashdot is concerned. Loving yourself is just as bad as gassing every Jew in Europe. You will be removed from the internet until you believe what a certain group wants you to believe and they will erase as much of your history as it takes to help cure you of this vile racism.
This isn't really about Nazis, but about smearing conservatives with the label to silence them.
If you want political correctness, go to Germany.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
It started with a woman that harassed a man, with the help of many in the media.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
So I take it that you're a leftist, which means that you support the murder of 50 million people.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
So you support ideologies that have an equal thirst for blood - if they don't obey leftist narratives?
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Leave them alone.
No.
Funny how the video doesn't show any of that. Is this some vision you conjured up in your fevered imagination?
What if there were a list of questions that the head of every political group had to answer (or be researched for). They would be questions like: 1) Is your government model like a a) Republic b) Democracy c) Monarchy d) oligarchy e) dictatorship, etc. . . . 2) What civil rights would it have? 1) Freedom of Speech 2) keep and bear arms . . .
Comparing the answers to these and other questions, we get a detailed look at what each group really wants -> not just what they say before election or in front of a camera. . Then, compare them. I wonder (curious) just how different some of these other popular groups would really be from the one with the unpopular swastika. Some I think would be much closer than they will admit.
...You have so much on your plate that you can't remember all there is to do. Only the things that make the most noise, hit your desk the most, etc, get focus and everything else is forgotten until it makes noise again. Just sayin'.
White supremacy and remarks about Hitler were just ignored and/or not a big deal until something happens, now punishing the people that are involved in any way will completely stop it, right? Uh, telling people they can't do something makes them want to do it much more. See: drugs, see: alcohol, see: anything people are told they aren't allowed to do.
"Donny, don't stick your finger in that light socket, you'll get shocked."
- 1 minute later -
"DONNY! Why did you do that????? You're so stupid for not listening to me!"
Socialists/Communists ideology killed hundreds of millions (5x more than Nazism alone) in the name of their ideology. We fought Wars with them and they have explicit goals of tearing down Government to implant their own. I think we should ban everything Communist/Socialist too.
'all forms of hate' is now a euphemism for all political speech they disagree with. It's the same bullshit excuse that youtube is using to shut down independent journalists by demonetizing and quarantining their videos, under the banner of 'fighting extremism.'
Ironically enough, the very definition of fascism includes social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. I hope those celebrating this move enjoy having their speech dictated to by a corporate controlled media, because once censorship is the norm, eventually they'll get a turn at being silenced or excommunicated because the goal posts are always being moved.
Don't they communicate by yelling at each other?
BLM, Antifa, and other anti-Trump groups are aligned with Communists.
Besides, your eagerness to smear is a deflection in itself.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
N/T
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
So what? When did I say I was a part of or supported those groups or even that I was anti-Trump? Also, smear the Nazis? I'm pretty sure their reputation speaks for itself.
Unless of course you were also "smearing" the Communists?
Only crack the nuts that crack. You don't put the ones that don't crack in the sack.
Individual communists still have a sense of personal ownership of belongings, anarchists form power structures
Which is why anarchism, communism, and anarcho-communism don't touch the edge of a Nolan chart. They come close but aren't quite to the extreme.
white supremacists can believe in the welfare state
Hence the "socialist" in "National Socialist German Labor Party" (NSDAP). To capture where different ideologies fall relative to the National Socialists and their successors, you might need a different chart with economic regulation and ethnic discrimination as its axes.
Where is the chart that acknowledges this individuality and supports exploration of the issues and not the identities?
These charts improve on the left/right divide by adding an additional axis. But a chart really can't summarize more than two orthogonal aspects of a political position for one practical reason: An image on a piece of paper or computer monitor has two dimensions, as does the human retina.
Yeah, and Sethstorm is Kim Jong-un's boy toy.
And his mother was a hamster and his father smelt of elderberries!
What? You're the one who started with the absurdities, I'm just playing along.
BLM has nothing to do with communism. And this isn't 1947 and Joe McCarthy is long dead. Take a Valium or something.
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