Stupid fingers. I get used to forums where I can correct my typos. Should have been:
Because it can take the account holder weeks to get their statement, see that someone has presented a fake check
Why doesn't the bank notice that the cheque is fake? Isn't that their job? When it involves hundreds of thousands of dollars, they should take a little care.
Being "totally clear" is not about....
Yeah, yeah. I understand how the bank gets away with this bullshit by making a distinction that defies common usage. They're in the right, legally. Morally, they're no better than the scammer.
Because it can take the account holder weeks to get their statement, see that someone has presented a fake check
Why doesn't the bank notice that the cheque is fake? Isn't that their job? When it inviolves hundreds of thoudans of dollars, thay should take a little care.
Being "totally clear" is not about....P
Yeah, yeah. I understand how the bank gets away with this bullshit by making a distinction that defies common usage. They're in the right, legally. Morally, they're no better than the scammmer.
Oh. Of course, it isn't bigoted if you use a modifier instead of a noun. So, if I called you a "pedantic cocksucker", that might be offensive. Whereas calling you a "cocksucking pedant" would clearly not be. Thanks for clarifying that.
Because the blog is dated today, so Taco thinks its a "new" story. It took me five minutes to work out this was the same story I read in yesterday's newspaper, with nothing added except some links to a useless blog.
For FUCK'S sake, cite the fucking original source not what has been passed through all these useless parasites regurgitating while diluting and colouring whatever facts there were at each step? So, it took me 2 whole minutes to find at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/world/europe/19assange.html
What next: A Tweet referring to a blog copying a Usenet post... How can the editors let these douchebags promote their worthless blogs like this, in the guise of a news story they've plagiarised from someone else?
Do all French "french kiss"? Doubtful. Are all Swiss involved in making cheese, or even eating what we call "Swiss cheese"? Nope, but we still call it that. Are all Japanese infected with "Japanese Encephallitis"?
None of those terms ascribe a criminal or immoral act to people of a specific nationality.
It does not suggest that all people from Nigeria are scammers.
Yes, it does.
If you don't like it then you are going to have popularize a new term, but good luck with that.
Well, sure, Nigerians don't have enough clout in the USA to stop you insulting them, as would be the case if it was "Jewish scammer", "Mexican scammer" or some other ethnic group more established in the US, so you can feel free to piss on them.
Of course there are already several established terms for this kind of fraud, the Nigerians didn't invent it after all. "Advance-fee fraud" is the most generic and descriptive. "419 scam" retains the Nigerian flavour if you like, referring to their legislation.
And aside from the whiff of racism, it's just misleading if, as in this case, none of those involved are Nigerian, and Nigeria is never mentioned in the story, except for the label.
Most people know this kind of fraud from the Nigerian emails and thus thats how they refer to it.
It's just like "kleenex"
Well, no, it's not like "Kleenex", because we're talking about human beings. Nigeria is a country with a population of 150 million people, and to label them all as thieves, or use their country's name as label meaning "thief" is pretty unpleasant, and basically racist. Consider how "jew" or "gypsy" was (and in some places still is) used as pejorative. And no matter how many Nigerian fraudsters there are, they're still a tiny percentage of the country; and also tiny percentage of fraudsters in the world.
what are you proposing as an alternative? That the banks wait until each check has totally cleared(taking weeks or longer in some cases) to totally clear?
Yeah, why not?
Why the hell should it take weeks? Why not 10 seconds for your bank to verify with the issuing bank -- they don't send messages by pony express any more, it's all digital. When it can make them money, they do the transaction in less than a second, keep it and play with it while you're waiting.
But how do you know they suck if you don't watch them? Star Wars fans waited for years for the prequels, myself included; you think some bad reviews were going to stop them/me going to the cinema? Oh, how I wish I'd waited.
Well, I didn't find it hard to wait. I read the reviews and that made it clear that I wasn't missing anything.
Of course, you could download and see a preview before they came out. But if you feel compelled to pay top dollar to see them in the cinema, and buy all the DVD/BD/Games/action figures/lunch boxes... you can't complain if he keeps making more.
Myself, I watched the first and second prequels (on used DVDs, as I said), not sure if I saw the third. No intention of watching them again anyway. And I saw a couple of Clone Wars cartoons on local TV, not my thing so I gave up on them.
I'm not saying everyone should do as I do, but it seems pretty insane to me to keep buying a product that you say you dislike. Either stop buying it; or admit that you do enjoy it, Jar Jar and all.
George Lucas has the worst case of malignant narcissism imaginable - his family needs to stage an intervention for him.
No, all the nerds who complain about him should STOP PAYING HIM MONEY. Then he'll stop. People say the Star Wars prequels suck, but they still gave George money to see them. So he stays in business and keeps recycling the same few ideas he had 30 years ago. I saw the SW prequels on second hand DVDs I got for 50 cents a year after they came out. Which was a fair price; and I'm happy George didn't see a cent of it.
Everyone is assuming this is simply a porn delivery app. If anyone bothers to RTFA, they'd see it was actually a e-paper: the whole newspaper. And that happens to include a page of fairly tame girly photos -- bikinis, topless sometimes; no genitalia I can see. (http://ekstrabladet.dk/side9/). Maybe 50 years ago that was "porn", now you can see more on any HBO drama or workshop calendar. Apple really are being bluenosed about this.
Before TiVo, there was the remote control with the mute button. My grandfather always muted the commercials, not because they were loud, but because they annoyed him. We don't need more government and more stupid regulations when we already have a solution.
Right. You have to keep the remote in your hand, ready to click "mute" at a moment's notice. Then you have to keep WATCHING the fucking commercial so you know when it's finished and you can turn the audio back on again. You can't read a magazine, or go out to the kitchen to get a snack and know you'll hear when your show is back.
Yes, that's a great "solution" for the advertisers, you end up paying more attention to the ads than otherwise.
Yeah, sure, who decides when the madness stops? A few decades from now, huh? I doubt the madness will stop; you're just coddling the mad.
It's not "mad" to find Nazism repugnant. I guessed "a few decades" as by then everyone who has direct memories of them will be dead. We can make jokes about evil things that happened hundreds of years ago without causing great offence. But not things in living memory. What's the tradeoff? You can't use a particular "cool symbol" in an FPS, vs offending millions of people whose relatives were murdered by people wearing that symbol?
If people can think shuriken make cool symbols, why do you find it so hard to believe that they might like a swastika simply for the shape?
It's certainly possible. But there are many "cool" symbols, but only one that means "Nazi". For someone to want to use it in a military context; well that doesn't seem to be derived from its religious origin.
So choose another "cool" symbol that doesn't have that association. It used to be a perfectly fine symbol, but now, and for a few decades more, it's poisoned.
The TSA's measures are worse than useless: they actually create a hazard, with long, slow-moving, densely-packed lines full of by-definition unscreened persons--lines that are about the ripest target for a bomb that you can find.
There are many, many "riper" crowds of people in any city, wiht virtually no security, if that's all you want. Any bus, suburban train, school hall, church, hospital ER, etc, etc. They want to take a plane down, ideally by crashing it into something strategic on the ground. Killing the passengers is just gravy.
Castaway, perfect storm and Apollo 13 all had 'bad guys', that just weren't made out that bad.
They weren't "bad" , so they weren't "bad guys".
You're saying if someone made a mistake, that makes them a "bad guy"???
I guess if you are determined to force every movie into your mold, then you have to make silly definitions like that.
Stealing is stealing, doesn't matter if the thing that got stoled does not exist physically
Of course it matters. Stealing is taking something away, not just copying something. You can argue that it's immoral, but if you say it's "stealing", you're just wrong by definition.
All you do is start a pointless argument about the definition of "stealing". Just talk about what is actually happening, don't try to bend the language to make it seem more evil.
In your example, you talk about all being bad guys, but the rule is "There has to be a bad guy if there's going to be a good guy." Know any example of everybody being good guys?
Most porn movies. Many medical dramas. Survival drama : shipwreck (eg Cast Away, Perfect Storm), space wreck (Apollo 13). Rom-com (Sleepless in Seattle -- continuing the Tom Hanks theme). Biopics of explorers, artists, musicians, teachers, nuns... I could go on.
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Because it can take the account holder weeks to get their statement, see that someone has presented a fake check
Why doesn't the bank notice that the cheque is fake? Isn't that their job? When it involves hundreds of thousands of dollars, they should take a little care.
Being "totally clear" is not about ....
Yeah, yeah. I understand how the bank gets away with this bullshit by making a distinction that defies common usage. They're in the right, legally. Morally, they're no better than the scammer.
Why doesn't the bank notice that the cheque is fake? Isn't that their job? When it inviolves hundreds of thoudans of dollars, thay should take a little care.
Being "totally clear" is not about ....P
Yeah, yeah. I understand how the bank gets away with this bullshit by making a distinction that defies common usage. They're in the right, legally. Morally, they're no better than the scammmer.
Oh. Of course, it isn't bigoted if you use a modifier instead of a noun. So, if I called you a "pedantic cocksucker", that might be offensive. Whereas calling you a "cocksucking pedant" would clearly not be. Thanks for clarifying that.
Because the blog is dated today, so Taco thinks its a "new" story. It took me five minutes to work out this was the same story I read in yesterday's newspaper, with nothing added except some links to a useless blog.
For FUCK'S sake, cite the fucking original source not what has been passed through all these useless parasites regurgitating while diluting and colouring whatever facts there were at each step? So, it took me 2 whole minutes to find at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/world/europe/19assange.html
What next: A Tweet referring to a blog copying a Usenet post... How can the editors let these douchebags promote their worthless blogs like this, in the guise of a news story they've plagiarised from someone else?
No one here knows what the "facts" are. No one, except Assange and the women ever will.
None of those terms ascribe a criminal or immoral act to people of a specific nationality.
It does not suggest that all people from Nigeria are scammers.
Yes, it does.
If you don't like it then you are going to have popularize a new term, but good luck with that.
Well, sure, Nigerians don't have enough clout in the USA to stop you insulting them, as would be the case if it was "Jewish scammer", "Mexican scammer" or some other ethnic group more established in the US, so you can feel free to piss on them.
Of course there are already several established terms for this kind of fraud, the Nigerians didn't invent it after all. "Advance-fee fraud" is the most generic and descriptive. "419 scam" retains the Nigerian flavour if you like, referring to their legislation.
And aside from the whiff of racism, it's just misleading if, as in this case, none of those involved are Nigerian, and Nigeria is never mentioned in the story, except for the label.
I wish people wouldn't say "literally" when they're obviously wildly exaggerating.
Well, no, it's not like "Kleenex", because we're talking about human beings. Nigeria is a country with a population of 150 million people, and to label them all as thieves, or use their country's name as label meaning "thief" is pretty unpleasant, and basically racist. Consider how "jew" or "gypsy" was (and in some places still is) used as pejorative. And no matter how many Nigerian fraudsters there are, they're still a tiny percentage of the country; and also tiny percentage of fraudsters in the world.
Yeah, why not?
Why the hell should it take weeks? Why not 10 seconds for your bank to verify with the issuing bank -- they don't send messages by pony express any more, it's all digital. When it can make them money, they do the transaction in less than a second, keep it and play with it while you're waiting.
Rhodesia.
Gandhi's boycott of British textiles.
I was hoping they were going to Mythbust "Obama was born in Kenya", "Obama is a Muslim", or even more laughably, "Obama is a Socialist".
Well, I didn't find it hard to wait. I read the reviews and that made it clear that I wasn't missing anything. Of course, you could download and see a preview before they came out. But if you feel compelled to pay top dollar to see them in the cinema, and buy all the DVD/BD/Games/action figures/lunch boxes... you can't complain if he keeps making more.
Myself, I watched the first and second prequels (on used DVDs, as I said), not sure if I saw the third. No intention of watching them again anyway. And I saw a couple of Clone Wars cartoons on local TV, not my thing so I gave up on them.
I'm not saying everyone should do as I do, but it seems pretty insane to me to keep buying a product that you say you dislike. Either stop buying it; or admit that you do enjoy it, Jar Jar and all.
No, all the nerds who complain about him should STOP PAYING HIM MONEY. Then he'll stop. People say the Star Wars prequels suck, but they still gave George money to see them. So he stays in business and keeps recycling the same few ideas he had 30 years ago. I saw the SW prequels on second hand DVDs I got for 50 cents a year after they came out. Which was a fair price; and I'm happy George didn't see a cent of it.
Everyone is assuming this is simply a porn delivery app. If anyone bothers to RTFA, they'd see it was actually a e-paper: the whole newspaper. And that happens to include a page of fairly tame girly photos -- bikinis, topless sometimes; no genitalia I can see. (http://ekstrabladet.dk/side9/). Maybe 50 years ago that was "porn", now you can see more on any HBO drama or workshop calendar. Apple really are being bluenosed about this.
Right. You have to keep the remote in your hand, ready to click "mute" at a moment's notice. Then you have to keep WATCHING the fucking commercial so you know when it's finished and you can turn the audio back on again. You can't read a magazine, or go out to the kitchen to get a snack and know you'll hear when your show is back. Yes, that's a great "solution" for the advertisers, you end up paying more attention to the ads than otherwise.
It's not "mad" to find Nazism repugnant. I guessed "a few decades" as by then everyone who has direct memories of them will be dead. We can make jokes about evil things that happened hundreds of years ago without causing great offence. But not things in living memory. What's the tradeoff? You can't use a particular "cool symbol" in an FPS, vs offending millions of people whose relatives were murdered by people wearing that symbol?
There's a line of Greek letters below:
How interesting that Slashdot "edits them out". Or maybe their layout engine is just lame and only can handle ASCII.
It's certainly possible. But there are many "cool" symbols, but only one that means "Nazi". For someone to want to use it in a military context; well that doesn't seem to be derived from its religious origin.
So choose another "cool" symbol that doesn't have that association. It used to be a perfectly fine symbol, but now, and for a few decades more, it's poisoned.
There are many, many "riper" crowds of people in any city, wiht virtually no security, if that's all you want. Any bus, suburban train, school hall, church, hospital ER, etc, etc. They want to take a plane down, ideally by crashing it into something strategic on the ground. Killing the passengers is just gravy.
They weren't "bad" , so they weren't "bad guys".
You're saying if someone made a mistake, that makes them a "bad guy"??? I guess if you are determined to force every movie into your mold, then you have to make silly definitions like that.
Your point is exactly the same as mine, only I gave examples, you generalities. All we need now is a car analogy to wrap it up.
Of course it matters. Stealing is taking something away, not just copying something. You can argue that it's immoral, but if you say it's "stealing", you're just wrong by definition.
All you do is start a pointless argument about the definition of "stealing". Just talk about what is actually happening, don't try to bend the language to make it seem more evil.
Most porn movies. Many medical dramas. Survival drama : shipwreck (eg Cast Away, Perfect Storm), space wreck (Apollo 13). Rom-com (Sleepless in Seattle -- continuing the Tom Hanks theme). Biopics of explorers, artists, musicians, teachers, nuns ... I could go on.
RTFA, FFS.
It was a sports broadcast, three years ago.