I find konqueror and firefox about the same in terms of load up speed, on a variety of websites. If there's a differences, it's usually so small as to be worthless jumping up and down about.
FireFox still has been support of more websites, and also better rendering. Pages that are poorly written look dreadful in konqueror, but that's not really konqis fault. It's the shit coding;-)
Dave
oh please...domestic rats are rather nice. They don't eat humans, they'd most probably sniff you, lick you and then groom you. They're highly social animals, highly intelligent and very loving. I can't believe/. posts shit stories like this...
Dave
Oh please...Apple zealots begone. Apple is one of the most nastiest litiguous mongrel of a companies i've ever seen. They sue the ass off a fly on a dunny wall if they thought it would make a buck for them. They're getting their comeupputance.
Oh and the open group will kick their ass as well for infringing on the term/trademark "Unix". I have no sympathy for Apple. The agreement was for Apple not to become involved in Music - period. Apple have broken that agreement. No ifs, no buts, no maybes. Of course the way the US legal system is anything can happen, it's quite frankly a joke. Hell the pope could successfully sue Santa Claus for playing with small kids in the US and infringing on the Catholic religions sole rights to molestor children. BTW Santa Claus doesn't exist;-)
I like Apple products but the company blows. Major.
Dave
my oh my...maybe it's small particles from the kuiper belt? Both probes are around the right distance from Sol to start encroaching on the fringes. It would only take a very small particle to damage the probes. Highly likely.
Also, most proto systems observed so far have bow shocks, denser sections of matter pile by the solar wind from the host star. Wow, maybe this is happening?
The laws of physics don't bloody well change for all those morons out there thinking that. My reasoning? Gravitational lensing on absolute distant objects is pretty much spot on to what Einstein predicted. And guess who Einstein's general theory of relativity and special theory of relativity were based on? Yup. Sir Isaac Newtons Principia Mathematica.
God the human race is definetly getting dumber as we go on in time...
Umm hang on guys - if I read the article correctly, this software was released under the GPL. Yes/No? If that is the case, then it's GPL'd for good. The software developer just can't take their src code now, close it up and refuse to release the code. That's a breach of the GPL terms of agreement. And for that matter, if they close this software off and develop a totally NEW voting software, if it contains ANY traces of src code from this software then it too is in breach of the GPL.
Furthermore, this software was developed with funding by the Australian Electoral commission. Public money. I don't like a private individual taking my tax money and making something for the public and then trying to privatise it when it's not legal.
We need a large company (IBM Australia?) to take legal action in the courts to validate the GPL in this country NOW. It's happened in Germany and that sets a good solid precedant world wide. If we don't more software developers will take GPL'd code and do the same. Privatise. Not good. That combined with software patents in Europe and the US will pretty much kill OSS.
I have to agree with the parent post on most items - although I don't think that rats should be doing our dirty work.
Rats are incredibly smart - and exceptionally loyal. And very loving. And yes, they are clean. Gambian rats are actually illegal to be imported into the US. They are very large compared to normal domesticated rats (themselves related to rattus rattus).
I'd suggest that those that think it's funny, or think rats are dumb, or unclean actually go out and observe pet rats. You'll be very very surprised. Oh and they are very social animals.
MCSE/MCP et al do NOT guarantee that you know what you're doing or talking about. I have a mate working for IBM who's MCSE qualified and when he gets a problem he messages me...go figure.
It's Mr. Linus Torvalds. Please, if you *must* troll, then get it right. It's only a name, it surely can't be that hard to spell it right? If you can't spell, then I'd hate to see your abilities at using a computer for any effective processes of work. And Mr Torvalds has done a lot more than you can show me proof of kind sir. Have you written an operating system? mmm?
Opinions can, an do, in the business world get 'bought'. Bribed. However you want to say it. As my Mathematics teacher in high school said, 'statistics are lies. They can be made to illustrate whatever point you want to illustrate'. He was a damn well good maths teacher imho in more ways than one. His frequent comment was "calculators make you dumb, use your brain". How true. Have you been using a calculator a lot of late sir?
Also, please don't shout. It's rude. Or don't they teach that in MCSE classes?
What is Linux 7.0 webserver? Open source web serving uses Apache as far as I know. That's the equivalent of IIs. Funny 65% of webservers use Apache and that number is growing! Businesses aren't stupid generally, they make decisions based on what will make them the most money. Not the least. That suggests to me that using IIs will result in a loss of income when compared to using Apache.
Please have a look at www.netcraft.com. The longest running websites are running some form of *nix. BSD, Linux, Solaris etc. And nearly ALL of them are running Apache. Doesn't bode well for Microsoft reliability, no?
Quote:
Expenses for file-server workloads under Windows, compared to LinuxOS:
Staffing expenses were 33.5% better.
Training costs were 32.3% better.
Well, well, well...maybe if they're going from incompetent Microsoft Windows users to Linux. But MOST of these instances will be companies deploying Linux to replace Unix. Unix & Linux are very similar in many respects, and someone competent in Unix will almost certainly feel quite at home using Linux. And i'm sure they won't require a lot of training either. So this comment is very much bollocks.
Hacker. By definition that is someone who writes code. You are mistakingly (like most of your humourous and idiotic post) are thinking of cracker. Please, if you *must* work in the IT industry, then at least make a modicum of effort to get things right.
Biggest isn't always best either (in your reference to having certification from the biggest software company in existence...). Certificates do not guarantee you are professional. I don't like being offended by your tones that i'm not professional, nor knowledgeable because I do not have overpriced and irrelevant certification.
Oh and one final thing:
Copyright (c) 2004 Mike Bouma, MCSE, MCDST, MS Office Specialist
I had to laugh at this. You have straight copied from the Microsoft website. They own copyright on that, not you. You haven't even mentioned copyright of copied text belongs to Microsoft you naughty Microsoft Troll.
Grow a brain and actually use it is my suggestion to you. Certification does NOT make you a god, nor does it make you good.
I used to use Gnome back when it was 1.x. I preferred it to KDE then. But then Gnome was the first Linux desktop that I used. And I also didn't like the qt license issue either. That meant my prediliction for using Gnome at the time.
However, times change, desktops evolve. I find the Gnome desktop unintuitive and not particularly attractive. Humans are visual creatures, nothing you say or do can change that basic fact about our species. KDE looks great and seems very reliable (i'm using KDE 3.0.3 on Libranet 2.7 classic on my laptop). I've also heard of horror issues with Gnome breaking very easily. That said my laptop is an aging Compaq Armada 1750 (333mzh p2, 128mb ram) and KDE runs fine. Bloat? Man if KDE is bloated then Windows XP is really bloated.
Features? KDE has many nice applications. Kstars anyone? I'm an amateur astronomer, and even though I have a legal copy of Software Bisques The Sky pro level 4 I found kstars to be very good (and this was on the early version that runs on KDE 3.0.3 - kstars is improved on KDE 3.2 beta I believe).
Codebase I have no idea, since I don't code. KDE does look very professional and organised. I'll give an example if I may - I noticed that you weren't able to download user manuals for KDE and Gnome in pdf format from their respective websites. I emailed both KDE and Gnome about this - only KDE replied. That says a lot about professionalism.
I also personally found the comment by someone in this thread about the 2 Gnome developers that passed away very distasteful. That person should have his/her/. account disabled imho. That's very disrespectful of the dead.
I've used a lot of different desktops and my personal choice of preference is Mac OS X Aqua. It's a joy to use, secure, reliable and just damn well looks good. Whilst KDE does lack the polished look of Aqua, it is still very nice. Gnome no longer appeals to me in both looks and functionality and features. That's MY personal choice. Personally, I'd like to see both major desktops merge, but it's an impossibility.
Canon T90 (best manual camera I think) Nikon F3hp Canon F1n Leica R6 Olympus OM3ti
Personally, I'd still recommend that you forego the completely manual camera (most of which have long been discontinued and can only be purchased 2nd hand). I'd wholeheartedly recommend getting an AF (autofocus) camera, as the AF is particularly fast and very accurate (well it is if it's a Canon lense;-) hehehe). Most of the medium range AF modern cameras have a full manual operation, as well as the ability to manually focus if you really want. Later on, you can switch on auto modes and autofocus should you so wish.
I'd really recommend the Canon range - simply the best in the market, period.
Have you read the book? Faramir was far sighted, of the men of Westernesse. Strong of will and elf friends from the second age when men and elves battled Morgoth. His blood is pure, and that is why he is able to see past the ring in the books. Tolkien explains it quite clearly in the books - I suggest you read them again, and maybe read the Silmarillion as well to add some depth.
Dave
Well - you are right. Having worked for a major IT company in Australia I can tell you that they were compromised 3 times in nearly 2 years that I was there. They're running Win2k and NT 4 servers and IIs.
Hiding compromises is a very common practice in the industry. Debian is an organisation that works on pride and honesty - hence them being open and honest about it. NO system is *totally* safe unless it's locked up in a safe at the bottom of the mariana trench with NO internet connection and no one knows the exact location of it. Every system can be cracked. Period.
mmm I suspect people read plancks laws, the uncertainty principle by Heisenberg and read some of Niels Bohr' works. Not just read Einsteins general or special theory of relativity. Might want to try reading Sir Isaac Newtons Principia Mathematica as well.
I would logically say that given the uncertainty principle, and quantum physics as per plancks definitions, sound would not have occurred. As some others have pointed out, sound may have occurred after the big bang, from when time and space started to behave under 'normal' known physics. Anything prior to that is well...unknown.
Several people such as Stephen Hawking & Roger Penrose have suggested in the past that time was a by product of the big bang. Well, time as we know it. But that's another story;-)
Einstein himself had several heated debates with Niels Bohr and did not like the uncertainty principle or Quantum physics either. Hence his great comment "God does not play dice".
Dave
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Finally, in your last comment, you seem to link the courts to drafting DMCA and to the war in Iraq
Well let's see here - if people took the US government to court over the introduced DMCA legislation (and Patriot Act for that matter0 [both of which violate basic human rights imho] who'd win? I bet the US government. Power is Money. Money is Power. Do you think a judge would dare go against a government that would most probably put a bullet in his/her head? Anyone rememember the CIA? Or how they overthrow the Iranian government many years ago by pure deceit? What gave the US the right to interfere in a different countries government? They had NONE. I don't give a rats arse (and I have 4 girl ratties to pick from) if you're from the US or not - the plain fact is that the US government 'illegally' invaded Iraq, no matter what the sentiments were, or how bad Saddam was (and he was a bad man don't get me wrong).
If the UN had any balls they'd vote for immediate removal of the US, Great Britain and Australia from the UN council as well as FULL economic sanctions. Of course the UN is governed by all other things by money and power.
Dave
PS there's an old saying:
power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
PPS i'm not an yankee (and thank god for that)
Well, after thoroughly reading the link to the particular forum, i'm very disgusted with Mr Dawes and xfree86 and some of the 'key' developers. Harold is absolutely right in what he did. Personally, if Mr Dawes and others want to be prima donnas then piss them off. Do what xouvert has done, fork current development and work on it from there. If Linus thinks xouvert is better, then he'll drop xfree86 support and go with xouvert.
If it drops the bullshit and prima donna factor in the open source arena, then all the better as well. Whilst I don't know Mr Dawes and the other developers personally, or even remotely electronically, judging by their posts they appear to be rude and unreasonable.
Is it the beginning of the end? Well, that's hard to say. But let's figure it out this way, if lots of developers get pissed off with the core xfree86 developers and leave, then that is going to tarnish their reputation. That will discourage people/developers from joining or supporting the project. Personally I think that xfree86 is a pile of shit, it's slow, buggy and has all the activity rate of a dead sloth. It's not even remotely snappy. Hardware support is antiquated in most instances.
There, i've had my 2c worth and feel much more better. God or Goddess bless/.
wtf? guys, give him a break. So you're all apple freaks. Sure the quartz gui is nice. What he was trying to point out that most apple users like the 'apple look'. And the way that it does things. KDE can be made to imititate that look to a degree.
As to Apple apps like quicktime pro, dvd studio pro, final cut pro, final cut express, iPod capabilities etc, they are ALL Apple specific software/hardware. Closed source. Non developable for other platforms, because, Apple, like Microsoft wants a 'unique' business. They want no competition. That's what Steve Jobs would have done if he'd made the right choices 10 years ago - kicked the Intel/AMD/Microsoft but.
The new G5 chipset is very nice, much more effective than Motorolas efforts. And it will be a GREAT boost to Apple. Apple macchines still look much more fantastic than anything else on the market, and Mac OS X is simply brilliant. It's the best OS i've used (and i've used win 3.11, win95, win98, winME, win NT4, win2k, winxp pro, beos, debian, mandrake, redhat, slackware, solaris for intel, freebsd 4, mac os 8.6, 9.0., 9.1 & 9.2.2).
I don't see the DOJ hitting apple for including embedded apps in the O/S like they did Microsoft. Why? Cos Apple doesn't own 98% of the market that's why. If they did the DOJ would have done to them what they did to Microsoft. But at least with Apple it is possible to remove components from the O/S.
The main thing with Linux or GNU software/open source is freedom to choose what app to use, when, where and how. You can't do that with either Microsoft of Mac OS platforms. What is good with Apple is that there is interaction and dialogue between them and the open source community. Some form of mini embrace, but with Microsoft there is no embrace, only FUD imho.
The sad thing is that a lot of 'power' apple users are so blinkered that they can't see any other type of hardware/software system as being useful. If it isn't apple it's crap basically. Or i'm an elitist apple user. Personally I think they're great, but they do have areas of weakness as well, every operating system/software/hardware does. Poor selection of hardware anyone? I can practically slap any card in a Linux or Microsoft box and get it running in nearly every case. Even exotics. Try doing that with your PowerMac;-) See what I mean now?
Dave
PS I still think Apple make great products, even though as a company they leave very little to be desired (said as an ex apple employee)
Actually PierceLabs - what you suggested is one thing you can try. That only tells you that the DVD is OK. Nothing more. If it isn't working in the Apple computer is it the operating system or hardware? Or application. Apple has a different code base for the dvdplayer for Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X. So firstly eliminate the operating system by performing the usual things for mac os x...then i'd normally boot into mac os 9 and see if the disk is detected by disk first aid etc...if so, see if it can be played. If said dvd doesn't play in both mac os 9 or mac os x (and disk itself isn't seen or mounted) then i'd say it's a hardware issue. Zap the pram, reset nvram, trying a single user boot, try a different user account etc and see if that fixes issue...archive install is a good idea sometimes as well. If all else fails take it to a reseller for repairs. I do have some idea what i'm doing as I did 9 months of telephone technical support for Apple Australia. Great products, *hit company to work for imho.
Dave
umm actually, booting into mac os 9 is still a desirable thing..why? troubleshooting...say you can't read a dvd in mac os x...try another dvd, but it still won't play in mac os x...answer? boot into mac os 9 and see if you can play it in mac os 9...if that fails, good chance it's a dodgy dvd drive...of course you can run fsck -y and flash the nvram and pram etc...boot with extensions off as well if you want...
being able to boot into mac os 9 is quite a nice troubleshooting feature, and it's something that a lot of apple phone agents would agree with me on (if they were allowed to speak by the almighty apple legal department that is)...
I've been working for nearly 20 years now and all I can say is that Apple was the WORST employer to work for that i've ever seen. Inflexible, uncaring, the lot. Seeing that several people left during my unfortunate stay there, and their opinions were privately ALL the same as mine says a lot. A long time mac mate of mine who I worked with at Apple now calls apple "rotten to the core" or a "bad apple"...his words, I only borrowed them...
Dave
as an ex apple employee, all i'll say is that to my knowledge there were changes to the bios on the new machines that would not allow mac os 9 to boot. There was also a very nice *uckup with final cut pro 2 and upgrading to final cut pro 3 on the new only mac os x bootable machines...
mac os 9 would boot from the older powerbooks (titanium 15" anyone?) but not the new powerbook 12" and powerbook 17" after feb 15 or so...
Wiping the hdd as far as i know didn't work either, as it wouldn't boot from the mac os 9 install disk...we didn't get to play with wiping our machines lol, so i can't give a 100% on this last paragraph, although customers did tell me that this was the case...
Well, well well, welcome to the real world guys. Do you really think the telecommunications companies want you to get a good deal? Don't be so goddamn naive. It's all about bait and hook. You see, they bait you into nice conditions/contracts which are open ended (say, unlimited d/l, uncapped bandwidth, no spying on what you do with the connection etc). But if you READ the contracts, they reserve the right to change the conditions of the contract, when, where and how they see fit. And by signing the original contract you're bound to those rules. So you see them now changing the rules and conditions of broadband bandwidth to suit their needs. IE offer less for more money. Do you really think government fair trading bodies are really interested in this? I think NOT. RIAA and MPAA own politicians. In Australia our broadband is totally *ucked. au $80, for capped bandwidth (2mbps max, and capped d/l of 3gb per month! You guys in the US think you have it bad.
The first step is to force the RIAA and MPAA to listen. And you know how you do that? You boycott ALL movies. All DVDs and Videos. All dvd-audio. All CDs. Simply don't buy their products. If everyone did that for a 3 month period they'd be *ucked. The RIAA and MPAA claim they are doing it in the artists best interests, that's a load of bullshit. And i'm flying to Mars tommorrow for lunch with Peter Pan. It's all greed. How much can we *uck these people over and how long can we get away with it. These 2 bodies want to control the world. They are US based organisations. Why should they even have the right to even remotely control conditions of sale in any other country other than the US?
Back to the point though, I put money on it that the RIAA and the MPAA are behind all of these restrictions. Say, the US legal system now allows the RIAA to legally dDoS you. Go figure. The US government (and others) want control. They want to control the bodies, that offer the goods to the customers. Golden handshakes go on all the time behind the scenes. Sure you can paint me as some x-files nut if you want, but 1984 isn't that far away. Anyone know Carnivore? Federal agencies (both in the US and Australia) can tap into my computer without myself having the fair chance of saying that their methods are an invasion of my privacy. But the same thing can be said about a search warrant. Say, as an example the FBI is allowed to break into my computer via Carnivore, etc. Where is my right to say, guys, what's the proof that allows you to use Carnivore to break into my system in the first place? It is simply not policed. Things like this are done without my knowledge or approval. Without myself even having the legal power of questioning the deployment of this type of monitoring. What is there to really protect a user from illegal usage by government bodies? Nothing. The DMCA allows a lot to happen as well. Funny how these laws all originate from the US. It just happens that the majority of the music, movie and computer business originate from the US, and the US government and corporate bodies are trying their hardest to blackmail the rest of the world and force other countries to buy US products without any competition. That's why Linux is coming under fire from SCO. That's why the DOJ didn't do anything to Microsoft. That's why Microsoft has privately settled 2 anti trust/monopoly cases in the US this year alone.
Anyways, i've had my rant. Those in power will do there best to stay in power and *uck over the poor, average person. People like me were slaves 500 years ago, and we're still slaves. It's just being masked. And until the 90% of the poor people who are being *ucked over realise this and overthrow those in power that are manipulating us, we're screwed.
I'd actually agree with this comment "That sounds like an awful stab in the back for Debian". Basically I detected a lot of dislike of anything that's not free software foundation principled...
Without open source the FSF would be nothing - nothing at all. The FSF really only survived because Linus Torvalds licensed the Linux kernel under the GPL.
Whilst the GPL is good in many ways, it is very restrictive in some respects to major companies, who do NOT want to release proprietary code into the open source community for financial reasons (Epson anyone?). Apple has the right idea with its Mac OS X system - and funny it works out of the box with a great GUI.
I wasn't very impressed with his comments of Linus Torvalds either. It's a pity that the Linux kernel is so fragmented now by developers, cos otherwise i'd suggest Linus remove it from the GPL, make his own license and distribute it under that with a few modifications to the license that would encourage commercial corporations to develop for the Linux kernel.
As to Richards comments on DRM etc - what a load of bollocks. No amount of people complaining to their government is going to stop DRM technology - the big players want it and they indirectly control governments fiscally. Think about it. I'm not saying DRM is right - it isn't. It's blatantly an invasion of an individuals freedom or rights/speech and privacy. People complained about the US going to Iraq, but they still did...even after no evidence of WMD and constructed international lies. Funny eh? Call me a paranoid, uncaring bastard if you want, but we're all controlled and that's the way it will stay for some time...
For an interesting read look at this:
http://kerneltrap.org/node.php?id=9
It's a interview with Alan Cox and he has some very interesting comments on the US and freedom etc...
Dave W Pastern
Actually Mac OS 9.1 is a pile of shit. I used to work for Apple in their technical call centre and 9 system is shite. Mac OS X (10.2 and above) is really awesome, stable, powerful and secure. Runs like a dream. I like rebooted my Mac at work twice in 9 months, and then only due to having installed some updates that required the re boot...if 9 crashes, it crashes badly and extensions manager is a pile of goddamn shit if ever i saw it...
1. Microsoft is involved - heavily, this is their effort to 'legally' discredit and kill Linux as a competitor.
Think about it - who has been saying that the GPL is 'viral' for quite some time now? Microsoft. Who has been saying that Linux interferes with IP rights for some time now? Microsoft.
Microsoft is a hard ball company - they don't fork out money for no reason at all. They ONLY pay when they have to. Microsoft wouldn't pay SCO huge amounts of money for licences/IP rights usage etc unless they had to. And they certainly wouldn't party with lots of money unless they could see the actual infringements.
Microsoft has a HUGE legal arm. Who is the legal group for SCO in this case? The same legal firm that looked after Microsoft vs DOJ. Coincidence? I don't think so. Not at all. Considering in the Microsoft vs DOJ case there was some instances of IP that came up and had to be dealt with.
Think about it - Microsoft 'funds' SCOs case on clear legal ground that it knows it will win. SCO does a background deal with Microsoft that after case is over, they split the winnings, SCO will sell itself to Microsoft. Then Microsoft owns both Unix and Windows! Complete market dominance. Dig this as well - it means Microsoft can distribute a 'legal' variation of Linux as they have a licence, but deny licences to other Linux companies, therefore killing any competition that way. They can also dictate kernel development etc etc.
Microsoft says it has a Linux testing section for usability purposes. Yeah right, and i'm Santa Claus. The sole purpose was so that they could get the code and dissect it, looking for IP stuff to help SCO sue on. Quite elementary dear Watson. Be realistic here, how many lines of code does the kernel have? How many employees does SCO have that would be able to search thru the traditional Unix System V kernel and Linux kernel and compare lines? Not enough. That points to me that someone else did it for SCO - it also counts for them being vaguish...and why Gartner (a strong analyst support of Microsoft products and always has been) is saying to stay away from Linux.
Microsoft has learnt from it's Netscape/DOJ days and has covered its ass so tight that they can't get caught out on this one or linked I bet. That way they can't be done for anti competitive or monopolisation attempts and in breach of DOJ. Clever Microsoft! Either way Microsoft wins.
Dave W Pastern
PS if you reply to this thread can you please email the reply to me at david@dia.net.au - I rarely check/. posts.
All i'm going to say is - why should a US court decision reflect or change the way the rest of the world looks at the GPL or SCOs 'invalid' claims?
The US courts are known for weird decisions that defy all logic (Microsoft vs DOJ anyone?). The problem is that a positive court decision for SCO will railroad other international governments and legal systems to adopt the 'US' way of doing things. This is a VERY bad thing. Why should US law influence the legal system in Australia?
As to the GPL - it is clearly laid out. SCO cannot simply argue they didn't read the GPL, understand it, or mean to distribute a Linux (or open source) distribution under those terms. They knew very well.
I know i'd be ignoring all results for IP based on a US court decision, until decisions were made fairly and logically by a Australian Court of law. US law is completely only valid within the US, or territories part of the US.
What needs to be done now is for everyone who uses Linux to complain to their local court systems - unfair trading complaints and misrepresentation. Subpoena SCO to provide evidence based on licensing claims. etc Linux is used in just about every country in the world - if you can shut down SCOs case because they are refusing to provide evidence but want people to buy licenses with evidence (i.e unfair trading and misrepresentation) then you have won half the case. Quite elementary dear Watson...
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I find konqueror and firefox about the same in terms of load up speed, on a variety of websites. If there's a differences, it's usually so small as to be worthless jumping up and down about. FireFox still has been support of more websites, and also better rendering. Pages that are poorly written look dreadful in konqueror, but that's not really konqis fault. It's the shit coding ;-)
Dave
oh please...domestic rats are rather nice. They don't eat humans, they'd most probably sniff you, lick you and then groom you. They're highly social animals, highly intelligent and very loving. I can't believe /. posts shit stories like this...
Dave
Oh please...Apple zealots begone. Apple is one of the most nastiest litiguous mongrel of a companies i've ever seen. They sue the ass off a fly on a dunny wall if they thought it would make a buck for them. They're getting their comeupputance. Oh and the open group will kick their ass as well for infringing on the term/trademark "Unix". I have no sympathy for Apple. The agreement was for Apple not to become involved in Music - period. Apple have broken that agreement. No ifs, no buts, no maybes. Of course the way the US legal system is anything can happen, it's quite frankly a joke. Hell the pope could successfully sue Santa Claus for playing with small kids in the US and infringing on the Catholic religions sole rights to molestor children. BTW Santa Claus doesn't exist ;-)
I like Apple products but the company blows. Major.
Dave
my oh my...maybe it's small particles from the kuiper belt? Both probes are around the right distance from Sol to start encroaching on the fringes. It would only take a very small particle to damage the probes. Highly likely.
Also, most proto systems observed so far have bow shocks, denser sections of matter pile by the solar wind from the host star. Wow, maybe this is happening?
The laws of physics don't bloody well change for all those morons out there thinking that. My reasoning? Gravitational lensing on absolute distant objects is pretty much spot on to what Einstein predicted. And guess who Einstein's general theory of relativity and special theory of relativity were based on? Yup. Sir Isaac Newtons Principia Mathematica.
God the human race is definetly getting dumber as we go on in time...
Dave
Umm hang on guys - if I read the article correctly, this software was released under the GPL. Yes/No? If that is the case, then it's GPL'd for good. The software developer just can't take their src code now, close it up and refuse to release the code. That's a breach of the GPL terms of agreement. And for that matter, if they close this software off and develop a totally NEW voting software, if it contains ANY traces of src code from this software then it too is in breach of the GPL.
Furthermore, this software was developed with funding by the Australian Electoral commission. Public money. I don't like a private individual taking my tax money and making something for the public and then trying to privatise it when it's not legal.
We need a large company (IBM Australia?) to take legal action in the courts to validate the GPL in this country NOW. It's happened in Germany and that sets a good solid precedant world wide. If we don't more software developers will take GPL'd code and do the same. Privatise. Not good. That combined with software patents in Europe and the US will pretty much kill OSS.
Dave
I have to agree with the parent post on most items - although I don't think that rats should be doing our dirty work.
Rats are incredibly smart - and exceptionally loyal. And very loving. And yes, they are clean. Gambian rats are actually illegal to be imported into the US. They are very large compared to normal domesticated rats (themselves related to rattus rattus).
I'd suggest that those that think it's funny, or think rats are dumb, or unclean actually go out and observe pet rats. You'll be very very surprised. Oh and they are very social animals.
Dave
oh dearie me...
MCSE/MCP et al do NOT guarantee that you know what you're doing or talking about. I have a mate working for IBM who's MCSE qualified and when he gets a problem he messages me...go figure.
It's Mr. Linus Torvalds. Please, if you *must* troll, then get it right. It's only a name, it surely can't be that hard to spell it right? If you can't spell, then I'd hate to see your abilities at using a computer for any effective processes of work. And Mr Torvalds has done a lot more than you can show me proof of kind sir. Have you written an operating system? mmm?
Opinions can, an do, in the business world get 'bought'. Bribed. However you want to say it. As my Mathematics teacher in high school said, 'statistics are lies. They can be made to illustrate whatever point you want to illustrate'. He was a damn well good maths teacher imho in more ways than one. His frequent comment was "calculators make you dumb, use your brain". How true. Have you been using a calculator a lot of late sir?
Also, please don't shout. It's rude. Or don't they teach that in MCSE classes?
What is Linux 7.0 webserver? Open source web serving uses Apache as far as I know. That's the equivalent of IIs. Funny 65% of webservers use Apache and that number is growing! Businesses aren't stupid generally, they make decisions based on what will make them the most money. Not the least. That suggests to me that using IIs will result in a loss of income when compared to using Apache.
Please have a look at www.netcraft.com. The longest running websites are running some form of *nix. BSD, Linux, Solaris etc. And nearly ALL of them are running Apache. Doesn't bode well for Microsoft reliability, no?
Quote:
Expenses for file-server workloads under Windows, compared to LinuxOS:
Staffing expenses were 33.5% better.
Training costs were 32.3% better.
Well, well, well...maybe if they're going from incompetent Microsoft Windows users to Linux. But MOST of these instances will be companies deploying Linux to replace Unix. Unix & Linux are very similar in many respects, and someone competent in Unix will almost certainly feel quite at home using Linux. And i'm sure they won't require a lot of training either. So this comment is very much bollocks.
Hacker. By definition that is someone who writes code. You are mistakingly (like most of your humourous and idiotic post) are thinking of cracker. Please, if you *must* work in the IT industry, then at least make a modicum of effort to get things right.
Biggest isn't always best either (in your reference to having certification from the biggest software company in existence...). Certificates do not guarantee you are professional. I don't like being offended by your tones that i'm not professional, nor knowledgeable because I do not have overpriced and irrelevant certification.
Oh and one final thing:
Copyright (c) 2004 Mike Bouma, MCSE, MCDST, MS Office Specialist
I had to laugh at this. You have straight copied from the Microsoft website. They own copyright on that, not you. You haven't even mentioned copyright of copied text belongs to Microsoft you naughty Microsoft Troll.
Grow a brain and actually use it is my suggestion to you. Certification does NOT make you a god, nor does it make you good.
Dave W Pastern
Myself personally:
/. account disabled imho. That's very disrespectful of the dead.
I used to use Gnome back when it was 1.x. I preferred it to KDE then. But then Gnome was the first Linux desktop that I used. And I also didn't like the qt license issue either. That meant my prediliction for using Gnome at the time.
However, times change, desktops evolve. I find the Gnome desktop unintuitive and not particularly attractive. Humans are visual creatures, nothing you say or do can change that basic fact about our species. KDE looks great and seems very reliable (i'm using KDE 3.0.3 on Libranet 2.7 classic on my laptop). I've also heard of horror issues with Gnome breaking very easily. That said my laptop is an aging Compaq Armada 1750 (333mzh p2, 128mb ram) and KDE runs fine. Bloat? Man if KDE is bloated then Windows XP is really bloated.
Features? KDE has many nice applications. Kstars anyone? I'm an amateur astronomer, and even though I have a legal copy of Software Bisques The Sky pro level 4 I found kstars to be very good (and this was on the early version that runs on KDE 3.0.3 - kstars is improved on KDE 3.2 beta I believe).
Codebase I have no idea, since I don't code. KDE does look very professional and organised. I'll give an example if I may - I noticed that you weren't able to download user manuals for KDE and Gnome in pdf format from their respective websites. I emailed both KDE and Gnome about this - only KDE replied. That says a lot about professionalism.
I also personally found the comment by someone in this thread about the 2 Gnome developers that passed away very distasteful. That person should have his/her
I've used a lot of different desktops and my personal choice of preference is Mac OS X Aqua. It's a joy to use, secure, reliable and just damn well looks good. Whilst KDE does lack the polished look of Aqua, it is still very nice. Gnome no longer appeals to me in both looks and functionality and features. That's MY personal choice. Personally, I'd like to see both major desktops merge, but it's an impossibility.
Dave
I'd recommend checking out cameras like:
;-) hehehe). Most of the medium range AF modern cameras have a full manual operation, as well as the ability to manually focus if you really want. Later on, you can switch on auto modes and autofocus should you so wish.
Budget end:
Pentax P30-n
Pentax K1000
Nikon Fe2
Nikon Fm2
Canon AE1
Canon AE1 program
Minolta X300
Minolta X700
Costlier end:
Canon T90 (best manual camera I think)
Nikon F3hp
Canon F1n
Leica R6
Olympus OM3ti
Personally, I'd still recommend that you forego the completely manual camera (most of which have long been discontinued and can only be purchased 2nd hand). I'd wholeheartedly recommend getting an AF (autofocus) camera, as the AF is particularly fast and very accurate (well it is if it's a Canon lense
I'd really recommend the Canon range - simply the best in the market, period.
Dave
Have you read the book? Faramir was far sighted, of the men of Westernesse. Strong of will and elf friends from the second age when men and elves battled Morgoth. His blood is pure, and that is why he is able to see past the ring in the books. Tolkien explains it quite clearly in the books - I suggest you read them again, and maybe read the Silmarillion as well to add some depth. Dave
Well - you are right. Having worked for a major IT company in Australia I can tell you that they were compromised 3 times in nearly 2 years that I was there. They're running Win2k and NT 4 servers and IIs.
Hiding compromises is a very common practice in the industry. Debian is an organisation that works on pride and honesty - hence them being open and honest about it. NO system is *totally* safe unless it's locked up in a safe at the bottom of the mariana trench with NO internet connection and no one knows the exact location of it. Every system can be cracked. Period.
Dave
mmm I suspect people read plancks laws, the uncertainty principle by Heisenberg and read some of Niels Bohr' works. Not just read Einsteins general or special theory of relativity. Might want to try reading Sir Isaac Newtons Principia Mathematica as well. I would logically say that given the uncertainty principle, and quantum physics as per plancks definitions, sound would not have occurred. As some others have pointed out, sound may have occurred after the big bang, from when time and space started to behave under 'normal' known physics. Anything prior to that is well...unknown. Several people such as Stephen Hawking & Roger Penrose have suggested in the past that time was a by product of the big bang. Well, time as we know it. But that's another story ;-)
Einstein himself had several heated debates with Niels Bohr and did not like the uncertainty principle or Quantum physics either. Hence his great comment "God does not play dice".
Dave
quote: Finally, in your last comment, you seem to link the courts to drafting DMCA and to the war in Iraq Well let's see here - if people took the US government to court over the introduced DMCA legislation (and Patriot Act for that matter0 [both of which violate basic human rights imho] who'd win? I bet the US government. Power is Money. Money is Power. Do you think a judge would dare go against a government that would most probably put a bullet in his/her head? Anyone rememember the CIA? Or how they overthrow the Iranian government many years ago by pure deceit? What gave the US the right to interfere in a different countries government? They had NONE. I don't give a rats arse (and I have 4 girl ratties to pick from) if you're from the US or not - the plain fact is that the US government 'illegally' invaded Iraq, no matter what the sentiments were, or how bad Saddam was (and he was a bad man don't get me wrong). If the UN had any balls they'd vote for immediate removal of the US, Great Britain and Australia from the UN council as well as FULL economic sanctions. Of course the UN is governed by all other things by money and power. Dave PS there's an old saying: power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. PPS i'm not an yankee (and thank god for that)
Well, after thoroughly reading the link to the particular forum, i'm very disgusted with Mr Dawes and xfree86 and some of the 'key' developers. Harold is absolutely right in what he did. Personally, if Mr Dawes and others want to be prima donnas then piss them off. Do what xouvert has done, fork current development and work on it from there. If Linus thinks xouvert is better, then he'll drop xfree86 support and go with xouvert.
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If it drops the bullshit and prima donna factor in the open source arena, then all the better as well. Whilst I don't know Mr Dawes and the other developers personally, or even remotely electronically, judging by their posts they appear to be rude and unreasonable.
Is it the beginning of the end? Well, that's hard to say. But let's figure it out this way, if lots of developers get pissed off with the core xfree86 developers and leave, then that is going to tarnish their reputation. That will discourage people/developers from joining or supporting the project. Personally I think that xfree86 is a pile of shit, it's slow, buggy and has all the activity rate of a dead sloth. It's not even remotely snappy. Hardware support is antiquated in most instances.
There, i've had my 2c worth and feel much more better. God or Goddess bless
Dave
wtf? guys, give him a break. So you're all apple freaks. Sure the quartz gui is nice. What he was trying to point out that most apple users like the 'apple look'. And the way that it does things. KDE can be made to imititate that look to a degree.
;-) See what I mean now?
As to Apple apps like quicktime pro, dvd studio pro, final cut pro, final cut express, iPod capabilities etc, they are ALL Apple specific software/hardware. Closed source. Non developable for other platforms, because, Apple, like Microsoft wants a 'unique' business. They want no competition. That's what Steve Jobs would have done if he'd made the right choices 10 years ago - kicked the Intel/AMD/Microsoft but.
The new G5 chipset is very nice, much more effective than Motorolas efforts. And it will be a GREAT boost to Apple. Apple macchines still look much more fantastic than anything else on the market, and Mac OS X is simply brilliant. It's the best OS i've used (and i've used win 3.11, win95, win98, winME, win NT4, win2k, winxp pro, beos, debian, mandrake, redhat, slackware, solaris for intel, freebsd 4, mac os 8.6, 9.0., 9.1 & 9.2.2).
I don't see the DOJ hitting apple for including embedded apps in the O/S like they did Microsoft. Why? Cos Apple doesn't own 98% of the market that's why. If they did the DOJ would have done to them what they did to Microsoft. But at least with Apple it is possible to remove components from the O/S.
The main thing with Linux or GNU software/open source is freedom to choose what app to use, when, where and how. You can't do that with either Microsoft of Mac OS platforms. What is good with Apple is that there is interaction and dialogue between them and the open source community. Some form of mini embrace, but with Microsoft there is no embrace, only FUD imho.
The sad thing is that a lot of 'power' apple users are so blinkered that they can't see any other type of hardware/software system as being useful. If it isn't apple it's crap basically. Or i'm an elitist apple user. Personally I think they're great, but they do have areas of weakness as well, every operating system/software/hardware does. Poor selection of hardware anyone? I can practically slap any card in a Linux or Microsoft box and get it running in nearly every case. Even exotics. Try doing that with your PowerMac
Dave
PS I still think Apple make great products, even though as a company they leave very little to be desired (said as an ex apple employee)
Actually PierceLabs - what you suggested is one thing you can try. That only tells you that the DVD is OK. Nothing more. If it isn't working in the Apple computer is it the operating system or hardware? Or application. Apple has a different code base for the dvdplayer for Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X. So firstly eliminate the operating system by performing the usual things for mac os x...then i'd normally boot into mac os 9 and see if the disk is detected by disk first aid etc...if so, see if it can be played. If said dvd doesn't play in both mac os 9 or mac os x (and disk itself isn't seen or mounted) then i'd say it's a hardware issue. Zap the pram, reset nvram, trying a single user boot, try a different user account etc and see if that fixes issue...archive install is a good idea sometimes as well. If all else fails take it to a reseller for repairs. I do have some idea what i'm doing as I did 9 months of telephone technical support for Apple Australia. Great products, *hit company to work for imho. Dave
umm actually, booting into mac os 9 is still a desirable thing..why? troubleshooting...say you can't read a dvd in mac os x...try another dvd, but it still won't play in mac os x...answer? boot into mac os 9 and see if you can play it in mac os 9...if that fails, good chance it's a dodgy dvd drive...of course you can run fsck -y and flash the nvram and pram etc...boot with extensions off as well if you want... being able to boot into mac os 9 is quite a nice troubleshooting feature, and it's something that a lot of apple phone agents would agree with me on (if they were allowed to speak by the almighty apple legal department that is)... I've been working for nearly 20 years now and all I can say is that Apple was the WORST employer to work for that i've ever seen. Inflexible, uncaring, the lot. Seeing that several people left during my unfortunate stay there, and their opinions were privately ALL the same as mine says a lot. A long time mac mate of mine who I worked with at Apple now calls apple "rotten to the core" or a "bad apple"...his words, I only borrowed them... Dave
as an ex apple employee, all i'll say is that to my knowledge there were changes to the bios on the new machines that would not allow mac os 9 to boot. There was also a very nice *uckup with final cut pro 2 and upgrading to final cut pro 3 on the new only mac os x bootable machines...
mac os 9 would boot from the older powerbooks (titanium 15" anyone?) but not the new powerbook 12" and powerbook 17" after feb 15 or so...
Wiping the hdd as far as i know didn't work either, as it wouldn't boot from the mac os 9 install disk...we didn't get to play with wiping our machines lol, so i can't give a 100% on this last paragraph, although customers did tell me that this was the case...
Dave
Well, well well, welcome to the real world guys. Do you really think the telecommunications companies want you to get a good deal? Don't be so goddamn naive. It's all about bait and hook. You see, they bait you into nice conditions/contracts which are open ended (say, unlimited d/l, uncapped bandwidth, no spying on what you do with the connection etc). But if you READ the contracts, they reserve the right to change the conditions of the contract, when, where and how they see fit. And by signing the original contract you're bound to those rules. So you see them now changing the rules and conditions of broadband bandwidth to suit their needs. IE offer less for more money. Do you really think government fair trading bodies are really interested in this? I think NOT. RIAA and MPAA own politicians. In Australia our broadband is totally *ucked. au $80, for capped bandwidth (2mbps max, and capped d/l of 3gb per month! You guys in the US think you have it bad.
The first step is to force the RIAA and MPAA to listen. And you know how you do that? You boycott ALL movies. All DVDs and Videos. All dvd-audio. All CDs. Simply don't buy their products. If everyone did that for a 3 month period they'd be *ucked. The RIAA and MPAA claim they are doing it in the artists best interests, that's a load of bullshit. And i'm flying to Mars tommorrow for lunch with Peter Pan. It's all greed. How much can we *uck these people over and how long can we get away with it. These 2 bodies want to control the world. They are US based organisations. Why should they even have the right to even remotely control conditions of sale in any other country other than the US?
Back to the point though, I put money on it that the RIAA and the MPAA are behind all of these restrictions. Say, the US legal system now allows the RIAA to legally dDoS you. Go figure. The US government (and others) want control. They want to control the bodies, that offer the goods to the customers. Golden handshakes go on all the time behind the scenes. Sure you can paint me as some x-files nut if you want, but 1984 isn't that far away. Anyone know Carnivore? Federal agencies (both in the US and Australia) can tap into my computer without myself having the fair chance of saying that their methods are an invasion of my privacy. But the same thing can be said about a search warrant. Say, as an example the FBI is allowed to break into my computer via Carnivore, etc. Where is my right to say, guys, what's the proof that allows you to use Carnivore to break into my system in the first place? It is simply not policed. Things like this are done without my knowledge or approval. Without myself even having the legal power of questioning the deployment of this type of monitoring. What is there to really protect a user from illegal usage by government bodies? Nothing. The DMCA allows a lot to happen as well. Funny how these laws all originate from the US. It just happens that the majority of the music, movie and computer business originate from the US, and the US government and corporate bodies are trying their hardest to blackmail the rest of the world and force other countries to buy US products without any competition. That's why Linux is coming under fire from SCO. That's why the DOJ didn't do anything to Microsoft. That's why Microsoft has privately settled 2 anti trust/monopoly cases in the US this year alone.
Anyways, i've had my rant. Those in power will do there best to stay in power and *uck over the poor, average person. People like me were slaves 500 years ago, and we're still slaves. It's just being masked. And until the 90% of the poor people who are being *ucked over realise this and overthrow those in power that are manipulating us, we're screwed.
Dave
I'd actually agree with this comment "That sounds like an awful stab in the back for Debian". Basically I detected a lot of dislike of anything that's not free software foundation principled... Without open source the FSF would be nothing - nothing at all. The FSF really only survived because Linus Torvalds licensed the Linux kernel under the GPL. Whilst the GPL is good in many ways, it is very restrictive in some respects to major companies, who do NOT want to release proprietary code into the open source community for financial reasons (Epson anyone?). Apple has the right idea with its Mac OS X system - and funny it works out of the box with a great GUI. I wasn't very impressed with his comments of Linus Torvalds either. It's a pity that the Linux kernel is so fragmented now by developers, cos otherwise i'd suggest Linus remove it from the GPL, make his own license and distribute it under that with a few modifications to the license that would encourage commercial corporations to develop for the Linux kernel. As to Richards comments on DRM etc - what a load of bollocks. No amount of people complaining to their government is going to stop DRM technology - the big players want it and they indirectly control governments fiscally. Think about it. I'm not saying DRM is right - it isn't. It's blatantly an invasion of an individuals freedom or rights/speech and privacy. People complained about the US going to Iraq, but they still did...even after no evidence of WMD and constructed international lies. Funny eh? Call me a paranoid, uncaring bastard if you want, but we're all controlled and that's the way it will stay for some time... For an interesting read look at this: http://kerneltrap.org/node.php?id=9 It's a interview with Alan Cox and he has some very interesting comments on the US and freedom etc... Dave W Pastern
Actually Mac OS 9.1 is a pile of shit. I used to work for Apple in their technical call centre and 9 system is shite. Mac OS X (10.2 and above) is really awesome, stable, powerful and secure. Runs like a dream. I like rebooted my Mac at work twice in 9 months, and then only due to having installed some updates that required the re
boot...if 9 crashes, it crashes badly and extensions manager is a pile of goddamn shit if ever i saw it...
Dave
Well...you're both wrong, here's why I think...
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1. Microsoft is involved - heavily, this is their effort to 'legally' discredit and kill Linux as a competitor.
Think about it - who has been saying that the GPL is 'viral' for quite some time now? Microsoft. Who has been saying that Linux interferes with IP rights for some time now? Microsoft.
Microsoft is a hard ball company - they don't fork out money for no reason at all. They ONLY pay when they have to. Microsoft wouldn't pay SCO huge amounts of money for licences/IP rights usage etc unless they had to. And they certainly wouldn't party with lots of money unless they could see the actual infringements.
Microsoft has a HUGE legal arm. Who is the legal group for SCO in this case? The same legal firm that looked after Microsoft vs DOJ. Coincidence? I don't think so. Not at all. Considering in the Microsoft vs DOJ case there was some instances of IP that came up and had to be dealt with.
Think about it - Microsoft 'funds' SCOs case on clear legal ground that it knows it will win. SCO does a background deal with Microsoft that after case is over, they split the winnings, SCO will sell itself to Microsoft. Then Microsoft owns both Unix and Windows! Complete market dominance. Dig this as well - it means Microsoft can distribute a 'legal' variation of Linux as they have a licence, but deny licences to other Linux companies, therefore killing any competition that way. They can also dictate kernel development etc etc.
Microsoft says it has a Linux testing section for usability purposes. Yeah right, and i'm Santa Claus. The sole purpose was so that they could get the code and dissect it, looking for IP stuff to help SCO sue on. Quite elementary dear Watson. Be realistic here, how many lines of code does the kernel have? How many employees does SCO have that would be able to search thru the traditional Unix System V kernel and Linux kernel and compare lines? Not enough. That points to me that someone else did it for SCO - it also counts for them being vaguish...and why Gartner (a strong analyst support of Microsoft products and always has been) is saying to stay away from Linux.
Microsoft has learnt from it's Netscape/DOJ days and has covered its ass so tight that they can't get caught out on this one or linked I bet. That way they can't be done for anti competitive or monopolisation attempts and in breach of DOJ. Clever Microsoft! Either way Microsoft wins.
Dave W Pastern
PS if you reply to this thread can you please email the reply to me at david@dia.net.au - I rarely check
All i'm going to say is - why should a US court decision reflect or change the way the rest of the world looks at the GPL or SCOs 'invalid' claims?
The US courts are known for weird decisions that defy all logic (Microsoft vs DOJ anyone?). The problem is that a positive court decision for SCO will railroad other international governments and legal systems to adopt the 'US' way of doing things. This is a VERY bad thing. Why should US law influence the legal system in Australia?
As to the GPL - it is clearly laid out. SCO cannot simply argue they didn't read the GPL, understand it, or mean to distribute a Linux (or open source) distribution under those terms. They knew very well.
I know i'd be ignoring all results for IP based on a US court decision, until decisions were made fairly and logically by a Australian Court of law. US law is completely only valid within the US, or territories part of the US.
What needs to be done now is for everyone who uses Linux to complain to their local court systems - unfair trading complaints and misrepresentation. Subpoena SCO to provide evidence based on licensing claims. etc Linux is used in just about every country in the world - if you can shut down SCOs case because they are refusing to provide evidence but want people to buy licenses with evidence (i.e unfair trading and misrepresentation) then you have won half the case. Quite elementary dear Watson...
Dave W Pastern