What I meant was that you can see the flames, therefore it's not hydrogen burning. If the flames were invisible, the airship would look like it was dissolving - like a sugar cube in a glass of water. The visual record of the crash helps either way.
for every good one way to do something, there are 1600 more ways of doing it that just confuse the hell out of me
At first, I had the same problem. But after a bit, I realized this is a Good Thing. True, everyone and their brother has a solution to a given problem. And you have to poke around a while to find it.
The important fact is that you can.
More popular OSes make these decisions for you, and expect you to cope. If you hate it, you can't change it. You learn to deal with it. Assuming everyone is going to like what you like is what causes these problems.
Figuring out the window manager you like is IMHO a Linux tradition. Congrats on hitting a milestone.
Strange isn't it? How a well educated group of people who admit they haven't solved for quantum gravity use gravitational effects to conclude that 90% of the universe is missing.
A history lesson or two would probably do as much as the funding.
Gads. Did anyone read the article at the inquirer?
This super-ingenious protection is nothing more than a 32.768khz clock. I'm assuming it's internal to the cpu, since if it wasn't you could beat this thing with a nail file.
During 1 clock cycle, count the system clock. Compare through 2 ripple adders using (probably) 1's or 2's compliment. If clock_count is greater than max_speed_rating, or clock_count is less than min_speed_rating, lock her up.
Could probably be done in VHDL in one screenful. Whooptedoo, Intel.
That being said, way to go! Now nobody else can use this cutting-edge hypersonic mission-critical technology to clock protect. Like for instance...AMD. It'd sure be a shame if it got around that AMD were now and forever overclockable. A real shame. I'm sure that'll hurt their sales a lot.;)
If, on the other hand, you claim to be allergic to a certain chemical but don't develop symptoms when you're exposed to it unless you are told that it's there, that's psychosomatic.
Yeah I think this is all in this guy's head too.
The problem I have with this is that everything is made of chemicals. The air, the sea, the ground. His head. All chemicals.
And since plain wood and brick and stone are okay, it seems that it's only modern chemicals he has a problem with. Interesting how his disorder can check patent dates on-the-fly.
Get this guy some counseling. The toxins will go away.
Weaselmancer
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Amen.
Currently, there is no way for RFC-821 mail to eliminate spam. It was written for a few college profs to pass notes. Trust was rampant. The command stream is in plain english. HELO anyone?
It's 1000 times more difficult to add security to something than to design it in from day 1. How many examples can you think of?
I've been thinking about a better email for a long time. How about to log onto a "SMTP2" server you need a valid user/password rather than a stupid open port? Maybe each email account could have a public/private key combination. Tack the public key on to every outbound message, and have the first hop verify the sender. If the account is hacked, drop the private key and bingo - it can't send email.
An added benefit - you could decide to PGP encrypt all email on the fly.
And let's say that only 5 sites in the world run SMTP2 servers. Wouldn't you want to be on one? "We promise spam free email communication on our new email network." I wouldn't care if I couldn't talk to anyone on AOL. Besides, once it caught on the behemoths would eventually jump in anyways.
I'm going to assume you're British, since you're calling me a "bloody American".
when you write it as 18kmph, I see 18 KiloMeters Per Hour
The problem appears to be with your perception, not with what I wrote. Engineers say (k) as a shorthand when they mean 1000 of something. Anything - not just metric units. Your current link to the internet is probably rated in kbps.
And while I'm at it, we built the shuttle so we are going to measure it's speed in our unit system. The shuttle's speed is measured in miles per hour. A problem we wouldn't currently have if we had not started out as a British colony, I might add.
So please forgive me for not pulling out a calculator and converting the shuttle's speed into furlongs per fortnight or whatever for our more sensitive friends across the pond.
Not a flame, but even if all of this is true it'd still be a bad idea. I write driver code (Linux/WinCE) for brand new CPUs. And even though it goes against common sense, sometimes new != better.
Or to put it another way, the last thing you'd want is for Intel to release an errata sheet while you're sailing along at 18kmph.
You need proven technology in that case. And new stuff has no track record, even if it is better. It's the track record that's important. That's what mission critical means. You can bet your life on it. Put it in a 747 or a pacemaker and go to sleep with a warm fuzzy feeling that you're not going to cause fatalities.
I blame marketing people for causing this distortion. They've even scooped up the phrase "mission critical" and used it so often that it's watered down now and kind of lost it's meaning. I'd love to show these people trying to sell mission critical sql servers or email delivery systems what it actually means. I propose a variation on Schrodinger's cat.
Dangle said marketing person out of a 20 story window in a straightjacket by a rope. Attach a dremel tool to the rope. Hook the dremel to their software product. If it crashes, the dremel turns on and cuts the rope.
The list of things you'd trust under those circumstances is very very small, and they are called mission critical. This is why track record is important.
First off, let me say that I agree completely. Clueless journalists know that saying the computers are old is a sure-fire attention getter.
But why is it an attention getter?
Because of the current computer market. Most of the people listening to the story are running Intel/MS. And they think about what would happen if they put MS Office on a Pentium 66. Or win XP. And how much better their lives are now that they have a 1.2GHz processor. Wouldn't the same apply for something like a shuttle?
In short, the industry has bullshitted Joe Public that you have to upgrade every year or so. Can't run XP? Get a better processor. More memory. Not DX9 compatible? New graphics card. That's the average person's experience with a computer. The media knows that, and that's why they use it to spook people. Nevermind the fact that the shuttle and your desktop PC have almost nothing in common. Shocking claims equal great press, facts be damned.
"I liked this movie a lot, but I liked it even more the first time I saw it...when it was called Wrath of Khan.
A desperate man, abandoned on a desloate planet gathers together his band of warriors and plans revenge. He acquires a ship, and a doomsday weapon. The Enterprise crew foils the villain's plan to by a desperate battle in a nebula, which cuts off all communication. As a final gesture to his enemy, he activates the doomsday weapon within range of the crippled Enterprise. The most logical crewperson decides that the safety of the crew is more important than his own life, and sacrifices himself to save the ship. Fortunately, he dumped all of his memories into a less advanced life form where they can live on and be discovered on another day.
Now, the million dollar question. Which movie am I talking about, Nemesis or Wrath of Khan???
Rick, if you're reading this here's why people hated the movie. We've seen it already! Do something different. ANYTHING. If you make ST:TNG The Search for Data, don't say you weren't warned.
I have one more point to add, too. It's the RIAA that are the biggest obstacle to an artist getting paid!
They're an obsolete middleman. A CD sells for $14 these days (with a blank CD costing about a nickel). The artist gets $.10. How the hell is that getting paid? You might get to make millions, but only if the label gets billions.
And RIAA, if you're listening don't hand me that crap about promotional costs. Rich businessmen oiling each other with fat checks doesn't count. Or studio time. You could make a decent studio with what the VP from Sony spent on lunch today.
A good website with a few free songs on it, a little radio time and a CD that sells for $5 where the artist gets $2.50 would replace you entirely.
Asking if open source will ever become mainstream is another form of the question "What will the market do in the next X years?"
It's like fuel-cell cars. We already have cars and gas. Why change? To help the environment? Deep down everyone who owns a green car knows that their tiny contribution adds up to a zero net effect. But if gas was suddenly $10/gal, people would be screaming for fuel cell cars.
Your average user isn't going to do the MS vs. Linux debate for the same reason. Pointless. "I've got games and a pirate copy of Photoshop. Why bother?"
Let the market change a bit, and the software will follow. Palladium could do it. So could Wine. Make using the status quo PC an unpleasant enough experience or offer a decent replacement and you would see a big change. Soon, hopefully. I never thought I'd say this, but...Go Palladium!:^)
...was thankfully enough in the end for the mission of the Istari to be a success, despite the total loss of two of the 5...
Were the blue wizards lost? I know they went east with Saruman and never returned...but I always had the feeling that they were basically Orome's "hit men" - you know, the Jules and Vincent of middle earth.
The whole story takes place in "middle earth", and all the maps show the continent heading off into the unknown east. "There are older and fouler things in the depths of the earth..." My guess was that the blue were sent by the hunter to dispatch them.
If I may don my tinfoil hat for a rant, this ISO was not leaked. MS released it early, alpha and unusable and is happily letting the 16 year olds debug their product. The kids get the joy of being 'l44t, and MS gets an open community that will find and then bitch about bugs. Much cheaper than a QA staff, don't you agree?
Besides, if MS had that much of a problem keeping their insides in, don't you think the same "insider" would leak source code once in a while???
Seriously, anyone else as jazzed about this as I am?
I am Rayonic! It was my first thought reading the article.
Yeah, some people say that it's kind of like crying wolf. "Look - another example of how piss-poor the DCMA is. This will surely get it overthrown." Because nothing ever happens after that.
Well, individually each one of these isn't a big deal. But added up to a body of examples, they are. It's like how if there's a crash at an intersection nothing gets done, but if there's one every month or so they put up a traffic light.
This is another DCMA fender-bender. Keep racking them up, corporate America! We're keeping count!
If Hollywood really can't protect it's works the film industry will die.
Phooey. They said that about VCRs. "This will kill us!" Wound up helping the industry.
Consoles exist to some degree because console games can be made sufficiently difficult to copy that most people can't be bothered.
Phooey. You obviously don't have a good usenet feed, do you? Console game trading is rampant. Another thing - go into Best Buy. Tell me that their entire games revenue is off of consoles. There's a consoles section. And there's a PC section. Same size.
Mp3s and file sharing will change the economics of music and kill the RIAA but they will never kill it, with films it's different, digital technology offers the possibility of wrecking Hollywood.
...wait for it...
Phooey. MPAA and RIAA have to do the same thing to survive. Adapt. Just like anything else. Make it worth our while to purchase, and we will. Don't abuse the customer, and we'll be back. I'll admit, the RIAA will have a harder time adapting, but let's face it - a divx file is absolutely no match for a big screen and an overpriced bucket of greasy popcorn. For some reason.
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Ah, I see what you're saying.
What I meant was that you can see the flames, therefore it's not hydrogen burning. If the flames were invisible, the airship would look like it was dissolving - like a sugar cube in a glass of water. The visual record of the crash helps either way.
Weaselmancer
Argh but I get tired of people using the Hindenburg as proof hydrogen is dangerous.
The Hindenburg burned because of the paint that was used, which is chemically similar to rocket fuel.
Hydrogen burns with an invisible flame. Watch the footage - it's not the hydrogen that's the big problem.
If I had to be in a car crash, I'd prefer a hydrogen car to do it in. Gas tank ruptures, hydrogen floats off. Gasoline lays in puddles underneath me.
Weaselmancer
It's possible. Fuel cells are old technology. They had them on the Apollo missions.
Or, maybe it's just a projected 20,000 hours. Measure the fuel tank today. Measure it tomorrow. That's dF/dt. Integrate.
for every good one way to do something, there are 1600 more ways of doing it that just confuse the hell out of me
At first, I had the same problem. But after a bit, I realized this is a Good Thing. True, everyone and their brother has a solution to a given problem. And you have to poke around a while to find it.
The important fact is that you can.
More popular OSes make these decisions for you, and expect you to cope. If you hate it, you can't change it. You learn to deal with it. Assuming everyone is going to like what you like is what causes these problems.
Figuring out the window manager you like is IMHO a Linux tradition. Congrats on hitting a milestone.
Weaselmancer
Extremely well put.
Strange isn't it? How a well educated group of people who admit they haven't solved for quantum gravity use gravitational effects to conclude that 90% of the universe is missing.
A history lesson or two would probably do as much as the funding.
If he runs a questionable business from his home, he can't expect to have any kind of protection.
Strange that he's complaining at all, especially since spammers always want to know if you'd like to WORK FROM HOME!
I guess not. =)
Weaselmancer
Gads. Did anyone read the article at the inquirer?
This super-ingenious protection is nothing more than a 32.768khz clock. I'm assuming it's internal to the cpu, since if it wasn't you could beat this thing with a nail file.
During 1 clock cycle, count the system clock. Compare through 2 ripple adders using (probably) 1's or 2's compliment. If clock_count is greater than max_speed_rating, or clock_count is less than min_speed_rating, lock her up.
Could probably be done in VHDL in one screenful. Whooptedoo, Intel.
That being said, way to go! Now nobody else can use this cutting-edge hypersonic mission-critical technology to clock protect. Like for instance...AMD. It'd sure be a shame if it got around that AMD were now and forever overclockable. A real shame. I'm sure that'll hurt their sales a lot. ;)
Weaselmancer
Because your penis is small, you'd like to work from home and everybody loves baklava?
If, on the other hand, you claim to be allergic to a certain chemical but don't develop symptoms when you're exposed to it unless you are told that it's there, that's psychosomatic.
Yeah I think this is all in this guy's head too.
The problem I have with this is that everything is made of chemicals. The air, the sea, the ground. His head. All chemicals.
And since plain wood and brick and stone are okay, it seems that it's only modern chemicals he has a problem with. Interesting how his disorder can check patent dates on-the-fly.
Get this guy some counseling. The toxins will go away.
Weaselmancer
Amen.
Currently, there is no way for RFC-821 mail to eliminate spam. It was written for a few college profs to pass notes. Trust was rampant. The command stream is in plain english. HELO anyone?
It's 1000 times more difficult to add security to something than to design it in from day 1. How many examples can you think of?
I've been thinking about a better email for a long time. How about to log onto a "SMTP2" server you need a valid user/password rather than a stupid open port? Maybe each email account could have a public/private key combination. Tack the public key on to every outbound message, and have the first hop verify the sender. If the account is hacked, drop the private key and bingo - it can't send email.
An added benefit - you could decide to PGP encrypt all email on the fly.
And let's say that only 5 sites in the world run SMTP2 servers. Wouldn't you want to be on one? "We promise spam free email communication on our new email network." I wouldn't care if I couldn't talk to anyone on AOL. Besides, once it caught on the behemoths would eventually jump in anyways.
Weaselmancer
Mod this UP. I have no mod points to spend currently or I'd do it myself. This story is FANTASTIC.
Weaselmancer
I'm going to assume you're British, since you're calling me a "bloody American".
when you write it as 18kmph, I see 18 KiloMeters Per Hour
The problem appears to be with your perception, not with what I wrote. Engineers say (k) as a shorthand when they mean 1000 of something. Anything - not just metric units. Your current link to the internet is probably rated in kbps.
And while I'm at it, we built the shuttle so we are going to measure it's speed in our unit system. The shuttle's speed is measured in miles per hour. A problem we wouldn't currently have if we had not started out as a British colony, I might add.
So please forgive me for not pulling out a calculator and converting the shuttle's speed into furlongs per fortnight or whatever for our more sensitive friends across the pond.
Weaselmancer
Not a flame, but even if all of this is true it'd still be a bad idea. I write driver code (Linux/WinCE) for brand new CPUs. And even though it goes against common sense, sometimes new != better.
Or to put it another way, the last thing you'd want is for Intel to release an errata sheet while you're sailing along at 18kmph.
You need proven technology in that case. And new stuff has no track record, even if it is better. It's the track record that's important. That's what mission critical means. You can bet your life on it. Put it in a 747 or a pacemaker and go to sleep with a warm fuzzy feeling that you're not going to cause fatalities.
I blame marketing people for causing this distortion. They've even scooped up the phrase "mission critical" and used it so often that it's watered down now and kind of lost it's meaning. I'd love to show these people trying to sell mission critical sql servers or email delivery systems what it actually means. I propose a variation on Schrodinger's cat.
Dangle said marketing person out of a 20 story window in a straightjacket by a rope. Attach a dremel tool to the rope. Hook the dremel to their software product. If it crashes, the dremel turns on and cuts the rope.
The list of things you'd trust under those circumstances is very very small, and they are called mission critical. This is why track record is important.
Weaselmancer
First off, let me say that I agree completely. Clueless journalists know that saying the computers are old is a sure-fire attention getter.
But why is it an attention getter?
Because of the current computer market. Most of the people listening to the story are running Intel/MS. And they think about what would happen if they put MS Office on a Pentium 66. Or win XP. And how much better their lives are now that they have a 1.2GHz processor. Wouldn't the same apply for something like a shuttle?
In short, the industry has bullshitted Joe Public that you have to upgrade every year or so. Can't run XP? Get a better processor. More memory. Not DX9 compatible? New graphics card. That's the average person's experience with a computer. The media knows that, and that's why they use it to spook people. Nevermind the fact that the shuttle and your desktop PC have almost nothing in common. Shocking claims equal great press, facts be damned.
Weaselmancer
"I liked this movie a lot, but I liked it even more the first time I saw it...when it was called Wrath of Khan.
A desperate man, abandoned on a desloate planet gathers together his band of warriors and plans revenge. He acquires a ship, and a doomsday weapon. The Enterprise crew foils the villain's plan to by a desperate battle in a nebula, which cuts off all communication. As a final gesture to his enemy, he activates the doomsday weapon within range of the crippled Enterprise. The most logical crewperson decides that the safety of the crew is more important than his own life, and sacrifices himself to save the ship. Fortunately, he dumped all of his memories into a less advanced life form where they can live on and be discovered on another day.
Now, the million dollar question. Which movie am I talking about, Nemesis or Wrath of Khan???
Rick, if you're reading this here's why people hated the movie. We've seen it already! Do something different. ANYTHING. If you make ST:TNG The Search for Data, don't say you weren't warned.
Weaselmancer
Because submitting stories like this is cheaper than buying firewood.
Here, lemme help:
There you go! Hope you're warmer now.
Weaselmancer
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...and go to jail for obstructing justice and interfering with a criminal investigation.
God, I love the internet. So many new and interesting ways to get arrested.
Weaselmancer
Oh, how I hate that fucking line.
Amen, brother. Sing it.
I have one more point to add, too. It's the RIAA that are the biggest obstacle to an artist getting paid!
They're an obsolete middleman. A CD sells for $14 these days (with a blank CD costing about a nickel). The artist gets $.10. How the hell is that getting paid? You might get to make millions, but only if the label gets billions.
And RIAA, if you're listening don't hand me that crap about promotional costs. Rich businessmen oiling each other with fat checks doesn't count. Or studio time. You could make a decent studio with what the VP from Sony spent on lunch today.
A good website with a few free songs on it, a little radio time and a CD that sells for $5 where the artist gets $2.50 would replace you entirely.
Weaselmancer
Damn!
I didn't know that you could post lies on the internet! Especially where sales are concerned! Aren't salesmen supposed to be ethical?
Guess I better cancel my order for penis growth pills, then. And email that nice man from Nigeria that needs my help that I'm no longer available.
I laughed at him.
I laughed at him too, just now. Thanks for the best chuckle I've had in days.
Weaselmancer
Asking if open source will ever become mainstream is another form of the question "What will the market do in the next X years?"
It's like fuel-cell cars. We already have cars and gas. Why change? To help the environment? Deep down everyone who owns a green car knows that their tiny contribution adds up to a zero net effect. But if gas was suddenly $10/gal, people would be screaming for fuel cell cars.
Your average user isn't going to do the MS vs. Linux debate for the same reason. Pointless. "I've got games and a pirate copy of Photoshop. Why bother?"
Let the market change a bit, and the software will follow. Palladium could do it. So could Wine. Make using the status quo PC an unpleasant enough experience or offer a decent replacement and you would see a big change. Soon, hopefully. I never thought I'd say this, but...Go Palladium! :^)
Weaselmancer
Were the blue wizards lost? I know they went east with Saruman and never returned...but I always had the feeling that they were basically Orome's "hit men" - you know, the Jules and Vincent of middle earth.
The whole story takes place in "middle earth", and all the maps show the continent heading off into the unknown east. "There are older and fouler things in the depths of the earth..." My guess was that the blue were sent by the hunter to dispatch them.
Weaselmancer
Because an ISO of the alpha has been leaked...
If I may don my tinfoil hat for a rant, this ISO was not leaked. MS released it early, alpha and unusable and is happily letting the 16 year olds debug their product. The kids get the joy of being 'l44t, and MS gets an open community that will find and then bitch about bugs. Much cheaper than a QA staff, don't you agree?
Besides, if MS had that much of a problem keeping their insides in, don't you think the same "insider" would leak source code once in a while???
Weaselmancer
Seriously, anyone else as jazzed about this as I am?
I am Rayonic! It was my first thought reading the article.
Yeah, some people say that it's kind of like crying wolf. "Look - another example of how piss-poor the DCMA is. This will surely get it overthrown." Because nothing ever happens after that.
Well, individually each one of these isn't a big deal. But added up to a body of examples, they are. It's like how if there's a crash at an intersection nothing gets done, but if there's one every month or so they put up a traffic light.
This is another DCMA fender-bender. Keep racking them up, corporate America! We're keeping count!
Weaselmancer
If Hollywood really can't protect it's works the film industry will die.
Phooey. They said that about VCRs. "This will kill us!" Wound up helping the industry.
Consoles exist to some degree because console games can be made sufficiently difficult to copy that most people can't be bothered.
Phooey. You obviously don't have a good usenet feed, do you? Console game trading is rampant. Another thing - go into Best Buy. Tell me that their entire games revenue is off of consoles. There's a consoles section. And there's a PC section. Same size.
Mp3s and file sharing will change the economics of music and kill the RIAA but they will never kill it, with films it's different, digital technology offers the possibility of wrecking Hollywood.
...wait for it...
Phooey. MPAA and RIAA have to do the same thing to survive. Adapt. Just like anything else. Make it worth our while to purchase, and we will. Don't abuse the customer, and we'll be back. I'll admit, the RIAA will have a harder time adapting, but let's face it - a divx file is absolutely no match for a big screen and an overpriced bucket of greasy popcorn. For some reason.
Weaselmancer