You know, I honestly don't give a crap about TMNT. Not at all. Never a fan. But this STILL MAKES ME SEETHE.
Why the fuck can't Hollywood EVER GET ANYTHING RIGHT, EVER?
It's like Bryan Singer admitting he never read comic books as a kid. So what do they do? Give him the X Men franchise to direct. Great thinking, guys. That's exactly what you want. Directors who never read the source material. Pilots that never read a flight manual. Doctors that never read a book on physiology. Truck drivers that never read the drivers code, driving on the wrong side of the streets. Perfect.
And it's not uncommon. Same goes for Tim Burton, which perfectly explains Edward Bathands.
But this time, I have to be impressed though. This time, the ignorance of Hollywood rings true a clear as a bell. You know right at the outset that this is going to absolutely suck. Some people like Mr. Singer and Mr. Burton admit to not knowing the source material. Mr. Bay has basically admitted that he hasn't even read the fucking title. Because it's Mutant turtles, not Alien turtles as others have correctly noted. A new low, even for Hollywood.
Why the fuck do they keep hiring these people? A total fucking stranger they pick randomly off the streets could do better. They certainly couldn't know less about the topic. You can only go up.
You have it exactly right. You cannot enter into a legal agreement where you sign away one of your rights. For instance, I couldn't sign a binding contract that said "you may not vote". Courts would throw it out.
The reason why they add these clauses is because they are trying to trick people. Ever see the sign on the back of a large truck? "This Vehicle Not Responsible for Objects Coming from Road"? Or in parking lots at grocery stores. "Not Responsible for Damage Caused by Shopping Carts." Know why they have those signs? Because they hope you believe them. They're not true. It's up to the courts to make that determination after you bring suit. Of course the defendant is going to say "not guilty".
It's a bluff, that's all. They are just hoping you believe it.
Since you say you're not trolling I'll take you at your word and give you my best answer.
It's not the "what", it's the "how".
The "what" is someone getting fairly paid for their work. Which they have every right to do. Microsoft, the artists represented by the RIAA, everyone. You produce something of value and ask a price for it, you deserve to be paid. Or not be paid if the price is too high. Let the market decide. But either way you deserve to be in that marketplace and not sidestepped illegally.
The "how" is the problem.
What these organizations are doing is criminal. Pretending to be the police is illegal. Threats are illegal. Extortion is illegal. Racketeering is illegal. And lobbying for our rights to be taken away because they diminish their ability to monitor what everyone - guilty and innocent alike - are up to is wrong. The cure is worse than the disease.
To illustrate my point, I'm pretty sure we both would agree that unregistered guns are used in a lot of violent crime. So do you think it would be reasonable to have a local group of concerned citizens search your house looking for some? Hand you some forms demanding you list what weapons you do have, and tell you that if you have any guns that aren't properly registered, you'll be in trouble? Offer bribes to people you know and offer them cash if they can recall seeing you with a gun?
You see, it's not what they are doing but how they are going about it that is the problem.
The BSA then sends out a letter demanding the business owner fill out a software audit, or potentially face court action — even though the BSA has no power to demand such an audit and hasn't pursued a court case in five years. 'It's designed to scare the recipient into thinking that they're obliged to provide certain information when, in fact, it's difficult to see that they are,' said a leading IT lawyer."
We've seen this tactic over and over. Any time someone is trying to make a revenue stream off of anything that can be digitally copied. MPAA, RIAA, BSA. Illegally gather information, pretend you're the police, then extort with the threat of a lawsuit.
It's the system that's broken. That's the bigger problem. The parasites that get fat off the system are a symptom. Fix the system.
hiring somebody doesn't make sense, and I wouldn't learn anything that way either
Ok. So you're looking at this as a learning experience. That's great. But then you say this:
Once upon a time, I could program in C but I think I would be much better off to work with someone rather than try to roll my own
So you're looking for someone to do this for you and not learn any coding.
I think you need to consider why you want to get involved in this in the first place. If you want to learn game programming, that's great. Go do it. If you want to learn project management, that's good too, go do that. But first I think you have to figure out what your goal here actually is.
I will tell you this though. Until you narrow down your scope and figure out exactly what you want, the dithering is sending up some flags. You have an idea, you say you're not interested in money, yet you want someone to write a game for you based on an idea you have, and you're not willing to pay anything to get it done. Jaded old programmers like me hear this kind of a thing and mentally translate it into "I want you to write a program for me so I can get rich from it without doing any of the actual work."
They'll give you the BOM and the schematics. If you're making a commercial product from this, spin your own board. You'd want to do that anyways unless you happen to make rectangular widgets in the first place. And if you need WiFi tack that on yourself. They provide the kernel code too so all you have to do is add the driver yourself.
Think of the RasPi as a dinky devboard rather than some finished something you'd put in a product and you'll be on the right track.
No that's not my gist at all. My vector is to intercept communications between department heads during a round of hiring, and insert yourself as the frontrunner. Delete anyone better than you, and slip in a glowing letter from some higher-up about how impressed they were with you and hey why don't you hire this guy? That sort of thing. Just a couple of deletes and a faked email or two.
The SSN and banking details and all that would be taken care of by HR on your first day. Faking all that one step removed from the hiring process would be much more complex and risky. Not my notion at all.
I'm just thinking that if this guy really wanted to be a Marriot employee this would probably be the way that has the best chance for success. Other than being the best candidate, obviously.
Actually I was thinking something similar. In a large enough company communication becomes a real problem. Departments don't really communicate much. If you were to study your target a while and figure out who everyone's superiors are and the like, all it would take is a well-crafted email from some higher-up that says "hey hire this guy" and the odds are the underling wouldn't go back to their boss and say "are you sure?" - they'd just start the paperwork. Large companies are dysfunctional that way. They kind of have to be. The more people in the company the less practical being well informed is.
Now that they are saying they are willing and able to police every message that goes through their system, they are now responsible for content. Lawyers everywhere rejoice.
So now if anyone tweets anything illegal or uses twitter in the process of committing a crime, Twitter opens itself up to legal repercussions. If they can censor some stuff, they should be able to censor other stuff too. Failure to do so under our legal system could be actionable.
The United States Department of Justice also filed indictments against Western Digital and Seagate for making hard drives that are capable of holding everything from copyrighted works to child porn. "They should have some mechanism in place to make sure illegal content isn't stored on these devices," an agent representing the DOJ said in a prepared statement today.
Ok fair enough, it might be a fluke. I was just looking for a cheap Atom board to get some ballpark idea of what Intel might sell the Medfeld for. So I searched for someone actually selling Atom chips. Found them at Newark.com.
Now it looks like you can buy at Atom Z510 in bulk for about $27, so I'm off by about 7 bucks. But that's my first find and if I were to put more effort into it I might find a better deal somewhere. If Medfield tracks about the same, I'll bet you can get the chipset for...a guess....$25. That's doing some shopping and after the price comes down - I wouldn't buy these for a Raspberry Pi type project the same quarter Intel releases them in. Wait for the price to come down.
Add that to the "other half" of the Raspberry Pi board for about $15, and you'd have an x86 Raspberry Pi for $40. Maybe a little more depending on how much memory you bundle. Seeing as how the B model of the Pi is $35, it's in the ballpark. Maybe. If my guesses are close to the mark.
If you're looking for x86 SOC, Intel's new Medfield might be your best bet.
Medfield article
If you were to give these the Raspberry Pi treatment...let's say a Pi board's cost is 1/2 cpu, 1/2 everything else. So the everything else is about...rounding up....let's say about 15 bucks. So add about $15 to whatever Intel charges for Medfield and you'd have your x86 Raspberry Pi.
It will be more expensive than $25 total, because...well...Intel is involved. No way a Medfield chipset will sell for ten bucks. But it would still be cheap and let you run Wine or other groovy stuff on a dinky cheap board.
It might be close though. I found this atom board for $57, and that's a full motherboard with a lot of expensive slots and heat sinks and the like. The actual Atom chip probably isn't more than $15-20 bucks. If Medfield is in this ballpark you could still be pretty cheap.
I didn't just say corporations. I listed a number of culprits. Corporations, lawyers, lazy cops...I've got a list.
As to your question though - nobody likes doing business in dangerous surroundings. It's bad for business. That's why we have to have these draconian anti-terrorist measures that trample our rights.
Notice the dip down to 7200 right after 9/11? That's why big business wants the government to trample your rights. Spending is based on consumer confidence. That's where the money comes from. When confidence is low, people don't spend and the stocks tank. Business benefits if the government can prevent another 9/11. That means Carnivore, warrantless wiretaps, GPS tracking people who are Arabic. You know, crap like this.
I'm a Democrat and I'll tell you, I actually kind of like Ron Paul. If we lose, but lose to him, I wouldn't be too sad. Wouldn't have minded McCain too much either until he picked Sarah Palin as his VP pick. The only real problem I have with the GOP are the Christian fundies that seem to get traction there. They gotta go. Palin, Santorum, Bachmann - not on my watch. That's what makes me a Democrat. But yeah I agree, Paul is pretty cool.
But unfortunately I kind of agree with George Carlin on this one. Shuffling around these politicians every couple of years doesn't do much. The real power is in the corporations. They buy the politicians (oops I meant "lobby") and get their way every single time. We erode the Bill of Rights and nobody bats an eye at it. We can now indefinitely imprison anyone that might be a terrorist. So there goes Habeas Corpus. First amendment is shot to hell. What do you think the founding fathers would think of "free speech zones"? I have a feeling they'd be loading muskets. Second amendment? Also boned. Nagin after Katrina went through the gun licenses and ordered the national guard to confiscate every gun in the city. And they did. It goes on and on. Warantless wiretaps, GPS tracking devices without a court order, Carnivore...you no longer have hardly any rights at all, but you don't even notice it. They really did a number on us. A real pro job.
I hope you're right, that things will be better. But I doubt they ever will be. I think lobbyists and lawyers and greedy assholes and lazy cops have already pretty much doomed us.
They put you in a chain link fence box a couple of miles away from whatever it is you happen to be protesting, so politicians don't see anything that might upset them.
Got news for ya. We're in the declining days of our Republic. A lot of the great ideas the founding fathers had at the beginning are pretty much gone now.
"Centrist"? Don't make me laugh! The "left" in today's Amercian establishment politics is to the right of RIchard Milhouse Nixon.
Once at a Burger King not too long ago I wanted French fries. They came in three sizes. Medium, Large, and Extra Large. I asked for a Small and the lady at the window promptly informed me that they sell no such thing. I had to request "the smallest size of fries that you will sell me" and she informed me that it would be a Medium.
I am trained in math and know this to be bunk. But I bought the damn Medium fries anyway.
So, my point is that Centrist would be The Middle of whatever happens to lie at the extremes. Wherever they happen to be at the moment regardless of any labels people wish to attach. And as such, I think it's a good idea. Listening to my government argue and bicker while people who want to work continue to get foreclosed on and thrown out of their homes isn't getting us anywhere.
A little Centrist compromise and bridge building is what this country needs. I hope this scares the crap out of the establishment. This fighting is not what We The People want. We want our government to work for US, not for the party fringe whackos.
We still use Imperial units in the US. And do you remember the shortage of competent Cobol programmers back when Y2K was the big worry?
The world does indeed move on, but the past stays with us for a long while. A low power x86 SOC is still a useful and a wonderful thing.
My first thought when I read the article was "Cool! You'll be able to get a notepad to run WINE and native Windows XP now!" I can see TONS of uses for this, even with the lousy power specs. Industrial/business types don't like to let go of legacy systems. I just know I'm going to get some work someday that this chip will be the perfect fit for. I'm thrilled. Excellent work Intel.
Is ARM better? In this marketspace, absolutely. It's the best forward thinking decision you could make. But not everyone looks forward or is willing to spend cash on rewriting some legacy system. This chip fits a need perfectly.
Except I'm not worried about bias, I'm thinking that if the Chinese get enough patents to lock the United States out of their own patent system that will be the state of affairs that finally sinks the whole software patent thing. If you have to send two bucks to China every time you write a Hello World program, maybe that will finally display just how broken the system is.
Once large corporate interests figure out that patents cost them more than they help them, that's when reform will suddenly become important. So GO CHINA and torpedo the whole thing! Best of luck to you guys.
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Let it go.
Math is the first thing I thought of when I read the headline. Math!
How many software patents are simply applied math?
We may have found a slippery slope that works in our favor for once.
You know, I honestly don't give a crap about TMNT. Not at all. Never a fan. But this STILL MAKES ME SEETHE.
Why the fuck can't Hollywood EVER GET ANYTHING RIGHT, EVER?
It's like Bryan Singer admitting he never read comic books as a kid. So what do they do? Give him the X Men franchise to direct. Great thinking, guys. That's exactly what you want. Directors who never read the source material. Pilots that never read a flight manual. Doctors that never read a book on physiology. Truck drivers that never read the drivers code, driving on the wrong side of the streets. Perfect. And it's not uncommon. Same goes for Tim Burton, which perfectly explains Edward Bathands.
But this time, I have to be impressed though. This time, the ignorance of Hollywood rings true a clear as a bell. You know right at the outset that this is going to absolutely suck. Some people like Mr. Singer and Mr. Burton admit to not knowing the source material. Mr. Bay has basically admitted that he hasn't even read the fucking title. Because it's Mutant turtles, not Alien turtles as others have correctly noted. A new low, even for Hollywood.
Why the fuck do they keep hiring these people? A total fucking stranger they pick randomly off the streets could do better. They certainly couldn't know less about the topic. You can only go up.
You have ears shaped like Steve Jobs? That's gotta make buying hats difficult. And how do you get a turtle neck over an ear?
You have it exactly right. You cannot enter into a legal agreement where you sign away one of your rights. For instance, I couldn't sign a binding contract that said "you may not vote". Courts would throw it out.
The reason why they add these clauses is because they are trying to trick people. Ever see the sign on the back of a large truck? "This Vehicle Not Responsible for Objects Coming from Road"? Or in parking lots at grocery stores. "Not Responsible for Damage Caused by Shopping Carts." Know why they have those signs? Because they hope you believe them. They're not true. It's up to the courts to make that determination after you bring suit. Of course the defendant is going to say "not guilty".
It's a bluff, that's all. They are just hoping you believe it.
Since you say you're not trolling I'll take you at your word and give you my best answer.
It's not the "what", it's the "how".
The "what" is someone getting fairly paid for their work. Which they have every right to do. Microsoft, the artists represented by the RIAA, everyone. You produce something of value and ask a price for it, you deserve to be paid. Or not be paid if the price is too high. Let the market decide. But either way you deserve to be in that marketplace and not sidestepped illegally.
The "how" is the problem.
What these organizations are doing is criminal. Pretending to be the police is illegal. Threats are illegal. Extortion is illegal. Racketeering is illegal. And lobbying for our rights to be taken away because they diminish their ability to monitor what everyone - guilty and innocent alike - are up to is wrong. The cure is worse than the disease.
To illustrate my point, I'm pretty sure we both would agree that unregistered guns are used in a lot of violent crime. So do you think it would be reasonable to have a local group of concerned citizens search your house looking for some? Hand you some forms demanding you list what weapons you do have, and tell you that if you have any guns that aren't properly registered, you'll be in trouble? Offer bribes to people you know and offer them cash if they can recall seeing you with a gun?
You see, it's not what they are doing but how they are going about it that is the problem.
The BSA then sends out a letter demanding the business owner fill out a software audit, or potentially face court action — even though the BSA has no power to demand such an audit and hasn't pursued a court case in five years. 'It's designed to scare the recipient into thinking that they're obliged to provide certain information when, in fact, it's difficult to see that they are,' said a leading IT lawyer."
We've seen this tactic over and over. Any time someone is trying to make a revenue stream off of anything that can be digitally copied. MPAA, RIAA, BSA. Illegally gather information, pretend you're the police, then extort with the threat of a lawsuit.
It's the system that's broken. That's the bigger problem. The parasites that get fat off the system are a symptom. Fix the system.
First you say this:
hiring somebody doesn't make sense, and I wouldn't learn anything that way either
Ok. So you're looking at this as a learning experience. That's great. But then you say this:
Once upon a time, I could program in C but I think I would be much better off to work with someone rather than try to roll my own
So you're looking for someone to do this for you and not learn any coding.
I think you need to consider why you want to get involved in this in the first place. If you want to learn game programming, that's great. Go do it. If you want to learn project management, that's good too, go do that. But first I think you have to figure out what your goal here actually is.
I will tell you this though. Until you narrow down your scope and figure out exactly what you want, the dithering is sending up some flags. You have an idea, you say you're not interested in money, yet you want someone to write a game for you based on an idea you have, and you're not willing to pay anything to get it done. Jaded old programmers like me hear this kind of a thing and mentally translate it into "I want you to write a program for me so I can get rich from it without doing any of the actual work."
They'll give you the BOM and the schematics. If you're making a commercial product from this, spin your own board. You'd want to do that anyways unless you happen to make rectangular widgets in the first place. And if you need WiFi tack that on yourself. They provide the kernel code too so all you have to do is add the driver yourself.
Think of the RasPi as a dinky devboard rather than some finished something you'd put in a product and you'll be on the right track.
No that's not my gist at all. My vector is to intercept communications between department heads during a round of hiring, and insert yourself as the frontrunner. Delete anyone better than you, and slip in a glowing letter from some higher-up about how impressed they were with you and hey why don't you hire this guy? That sort of thing. Just a couple of deletes and a faked email or two.
The SSN and banking details and all that would be taken care of by HR on your first day. Faking all that one step removed from the hiring process would be much more complex and risky. Not my notion at all.
I'm just thinking that if this guy really wanted to be a Marriot employee this would probably be the way that has the best chance for success. Other than being the best candidate, obviously.
Actually I was thinking something similar. In a large enough company communication becomes a real problem. Departments don't really communicate much. If you were to study your target a while and figure out who everyone's superiors are and the like, all it would take is a well-crafted email from some higher-up that says "hey hire this guy" and the odds are the underling wouldn't go back to their boss and say "are you sure?" - they'd just start the paperwork. Large companies are dysfunctional that way. They kind of have to be. The more people in the company the less practical being well informed is.
I mean, if he had access to their network and wanted a job, he should have forged interview and approval emails.
Think outside the box, man.
No mod points at the moment, all I can do is furiously agree with you.
Now that they are saying they are willing and able to police every message that goes through their system, they are now responsible for content. Lawyers everywhere rejoice.
So now if anyone tweets anything illegal or uses twitter in the process of committing a crime, Twitter opens itself up to legal repercussions. If they can censor some stuff, they should be able to censor other stuff too. Failure to do so under our legal system could be actionable.
So long, Twitter. We hardly knew ye.
The first time Bill Gates actually did anything useful about a virus infection!
Ba dump bump! Thank you, I'll be here all week. Be sure to tip your waitress. Try the veal.
The United States Department of Justice also filed indictments against Western Digital and Seagate for making hard drives that are capable of holding everything from copyrighted works to child porn. "They should have some mechanism in place to make sure illegal content isn't stored on these devices," an agent representing the DOJ said in a prepared statement today.
Ok fair enough, it might be a fluke. I was just looking for a cheap Atom board to get some ballpark idea of what Intel might sell the Medfeld for. So I searched for someone actually selling Atom chips. Found them at Newark.com.
Now it looks like you can buy at Atom Z510 in bulk for about $27, so I'm off by about 7 bucks. But that's my first find and if I were to put more effort into it I might find a better deal somewhere. If Medfield tracks about the same, I'll bet you can get the chipset for...a guess....$25. That's doing some shopping and after the price comes down - I wouldn't buy these for a Raspberry Pi type project the same quarter Intel releases them in. Wait for the price to come down.
Add that to the "other half" of the Raspberry Pi board for about $15, and you'd have an x86 Raspberry Pi for $40. Maybe a little more depending on how much memory you bundle. Seeing as how the B model of the Pi is $35, it's in the ballpark. Maybe. If my guesses are close to the mark.
If you're looking for x86 SOC, Intel's new Medfield might be your best bet. Medfield article
If you were to give these the Raspberry Pi treatment...let's say a Pi board's cost is 1/2 cpu, 1/2 everything else. So the everything else is about...rounding up....let's say about 15 bucks. So add about $15 to whatever Intel charges for Medfield and you'd have your x86 Raspberry Pi.
It will be more expensive than $25 total, because...well...Intel is involved. No way a Medfield chipset will sell for ten bucks. But it would still be cheap and let you run Wine or other groovy stuff on a dinky cheap board.
It might be close though. I found this atom board for $57, and that's a full motherboard with a lot of expensive slots and heat sinks and the like. The actual Atom chip probably isn't more than $15-20 bucks. If Medfield is in this ballpark you could still be pretty cheap.
Allow me to help you.
I didn't just say corporations. I listed a number of culprits. Corporations, lawyers, lazy cops...I've got a list.
As to your question though - nobody likes doing business in dangerous surroundings. It's bad for business. That's why we have to have these draconian anti-terrorist measures that trample our rights.
Here, check this out.
Notice the dip down to 7200 right after 9/11? That's why big business wants the government to trample your rights. Spending is based on consumer confidence. That's where the money comes from. When confidence is low, people don't spend and the stocks tank. Business benefits if the government can prevent another 9/11. That means Carnivore, warrantless wiretaps, GPS tracking people who are Arabic. You know, crap like this.
I'm a Democrat and I'll tell you, I actually kind of like Ron Paul. If we lose, but lose to him, I wouldn't be too sad. Wouldn't have minded McCain too much either until he picked Sarah Palin as his VP pick. The only real problem I have with the GOP are the Christian fundies that seem to get traction there. They gotta go. Palin, Santorum, Bachmann - not on my watch. That's what makes me a Democrat. But yeah I agree, Paul is pretty cool.
But unfortunately I kind of agree with George Carlin on this one. Shuffling around these politicians every couple of years doesn't do much. The real power is in the corporations. They buy the politicians (oops I meant "lobby") and get their way every single time. We erode the Bill of Rights and nobody bats an eye at it. We can now indefinitely imprison anyone that might be a terrorist. So there goes Habeas Corpus. First amendment is shot to hell. What do you think the founding fathers would think of "free speech zones"? I have a feeling they'd be loading muskets. Second amendment? Also boned. Nagin after Katrina went through the gun licenses and ordered the national guard to confiscate every gun in the city. And they did. It goes on and on. Warantless wiretaps, GPS tracking devices without a court order, Carnivore...you no longer have hardly any rights at all, but you don't even notice it. They really did a number on us. A real pro job.
I hope you're right, that things will be better. But I doubt they ever will be. I think lobbyists and lawyers and greedy assholes and lazy cops have already pretty much doomed us.
How about Free Speech Zones?
They put you in a chain link fence box a couple of miles away from whatever it is you happen to be protesting, so politicians don't see anything that might upset them.
Got news for ya. We're in the declining days of our Republic. A lot of the great ideas the founding fathers had at the beginning are pretty much gone now.
"Centrist"? Don't make me laugh! The "left" in today's Amercian establishment politics is to the right of RIchard Milhouse Nixon.
Once at a Burger King not too long ago I wanted French fries. They came in three sizes. Medium, Large, and Extra Large. I asked for a Small and the lady at the window promptly informed me that they sell no such thing. I had to request "the smallest size of fries that you will sell me" and she informed me that it would be a Medium.
I am trained in math and know this to be bunk. But I bought the damn Medium fries anyway.
So, my point is that Centrist would be The Middle of whatever happens to lie at the extremes. Wherever they happen to be at the moment regardless of any labels people wish to attach. And as such, I think it's a good idea. Listening to my government argue and bicker while people who want to work continue to get foreclosed on and thrown out of their homes isn't getting us anywhere.
A little Centrist compromise and bridge building is what this country needs. I hope this scares the crap out of the establishment. This fighting is not what We The People want. We want our government to work for US, not for the party fringe whackos.
We still use Imperial units in the US. And do you remember the shortage of competent Cobol programmers back when Y2K was the big worry?
The world does indeed move on, but the past stays with us for a long while. A low power x86 SOC is still a useful and a wonderful thing.
My first thought when I read the article was "Cool! You'll be able to get a notepad to run WINE and native Windows XP now!" I can see TONS of uses for this, even with the lousy power specs. Industrial/business types don't like to let go of legacy systems. I just know I'm going to get some work someday that this chip will be the perfect fit for. I'm thrilled. Excellent work Intel.
Is ARM better? In this marketspace, absolutely. It's the best forward thinking decision you could make. But not everyone looks forward or is willing to spend cash on rewriting some legacy system. This chip fits a need perfectly.
Except I'm not worried about bias, I'm thinking that if the Chinese get enough patents to lock the United States out of their own patent system that will be the state of affairs that finally sinks the whole software patent thing. If you have to send two bucks to China every time you write a Hello World program, maybe that will finally display just how broken the system is.
Once large corporate interests figure out that patents cost them more than they help them, that's when reform will suddenly become important. So GO CHINA and torpedo the whole thing! Best of luck to you guys.