No verbal somersaults at all. Burning down a store is not comparable to making and distributing (selling or giving away) copies of IP.
Loss of payment is actually a great term because it's the only thing we can be concerned about here. Why? Because it's the only good measure of the value lost.
"Only some of the time does unauthorized copying result in the loss of payment?" In the context of IP piracy, no one knows that. We live in a world where the main barrier to copyright infringement is an individual's level of moral development and sense of personal responsibility. Comparing the real world to one where downloading is impossible is the only way to prove that statement, and those two worlds are so different that the claim is untestable and unsupportable.
Oh, sure, you can point to surveys of copyright infringers, but people who will infringe will lie (since copyright infringement is a felony in the United States, lying about it makes sense from a self-preservation point of view.) Of course, the infringers may just be lying to themselves. I guess a copyright infringer has to tell himself something that will let him go to sleep at night.
Uh... Hmmm.
1) Person A sells something for money.
2) Person B makes copies of it and distributes it (for money or for free), denying A payment for his product in one or more instances.
So, what is that denial of payment? What term are you comfortable with so we can move the debate past semantics?
an attractive nuisance? Based on all the suggestions in the posts above, everyone is sick of the adversarial relationship with the motion picture industry and a lot of people have adopted a "bring it on!" mentality.
You don't go after the hardware and software, you go after the criminals. The *AAs are treating the population the way the government treats us via the war on drugs: irresponsible and guilty.
The hard costs of a DVD and all its sexy packaging? A dollar. The value of the IP (how badly people want to see/own it) on the disk? Varies wildly. What are the options the studios have? 1) price according to IP value, 2) sell disks only to video rental places, who rent them out until the cost is recovered and then sell them used, 3) keep trying the crap with copy protection, 4) go after the IP thieves. I wonder how often they'll have to choose before they try something other than 3?
'We might be moving beyond the graphical arms race soon, focusing more on player-driven experience'
Rotsa Ruck, Dude. That may occur at some mythical company that doesn't compete for investor dollars, publisher access, store shelf space, or floor space in an arcade. The phrase "We focus on game play" translates in the minds of investors, publishers, and buyers as "Looks like ass. Small cult following. Thank you, drive through." Why? Most of the decision-makers in this group aren't gamers, or they want something ultra-sexy running on the monitors in their establishments.
Wish I were kidding, but I'm not. Check the war stories posted by developers on Gamasutra.com for many heart-rending accounts of the graphics arms race and why it'll never end.
Let me be the one to point out (and point out with my identity shown) that copyright is protected by federal law. I'm not going to talk about right and wrong, but I am going to point out that the monkies out there who have a copy'n'paste "copyright is a civil issue" for every piracy story on/. have no idea what they're copying and pasting about. You may now continue with the rationalizations of your illegal activity already in progress.
Uh, no. Let's stay with your approach and pretend human life has no value when we approach this calculation. The airline ValuJet was destroyed by a single plane crash in the Florida Everglades. And it was a crash caused by cargo improperly marked my a third party... The airline vanished (vanished into AirTran.)
And I don't think Comair's computer crash has a body count associated with it, let alone 110 people killed and turned into alligator poop. But in your universe, that apparently is trivial.
Except for the $30,000,000 million dollar lawsuit outcome against the airline. So maybe that shows up on your radar.
It's not so bad. Really. If you want to punish yourself, pick up some of the cardboard-paged disappointments the next time you're at a bricks-and-mortar bookstore. This would make a good one of those, especially if it were die-cut in the shape of the last image, with Cthulu's noggin making the top of the book a nifty shape to add vim and vigor to the ending. I think it was a little too short, in that the book failed to reveal who had misguidedly or intentionally summoned the critter.
My nomination for worst of these kinds of books is "God Loves Little Lamb" which involves the tastiest critters in the barnyard giving thanks to the Good Lord. Really. It comes with a special plush lamb adhered to one of the covers so you can pet it and encourage it to put on a little weight in time for the next major holiday meal.
Let's face it, cool car ideas come from people who love cars the way most/.ers love processor overclocking, water-cooling, and case mods. Convincing a wider audience that tweaking a hybrid will make it jump up and dance is never a bad idea.
Of course, as a side note, the industry's approach to hybrid autos is flat out wrong. Railroad trains are very efficient, well-proven hybrid designs: their diesel engines are always running at the most efficient level, and their momentum is provided entirely by electric motors. Tres spiffy.
Not at all. It's one thing to describe a movie or sing a song. That's spreading the idea. It's another to hand someone a finished piece of work that the creator and publisher are counting on for their livelihood without paying the price that the creator and publisher have set on it.
The free exchange of ideas includes a bunch of people discussing the concepts of reality explored in The Matrix. It doesn't include ripping DVDs or downloading torrents of the movie without compensating the copyright holders in the manner they've agreed to.
I've never understood basketball games on the computer. It's one of the few sports I can go out and try for real. Of course, I DO like being the bad guy in games I play... So I guess I can get the gangsta out of my system with one.
First of all, it has the phrase that pays: "graceful degradation "
Next, it talks about verbose and useful errors, so that a techy can make intelligent decisions about terminating a process, restarting it, altering a file, or some other fix. Presumably, once a tech marks a problem "successfully fixed" by a certain set of actions enough times, the system wiull try those series of actions before throwing an error message.
What will be nice is when the system recognizes what it is it's doing, so it'll have a "what" area and a "how" area in its makeup so it knows what's involved to accomplish the task. Then, if the "How" gets damaged, it can refer to the "what" to reconfigure available resources to meet the desired outcome. And, if the "What" gets damaged, it can be rebuilt by analyzing the "What" part. THAT will be realio coolio.
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No verbal somersaults at all. Burning down a store is not comparable to making and distributing (selling or giving away) copies of IP.
Loss of payment is actually a great term because it's the only thing we can be concerned about here. Why? Because it's the only good measure of the value lost.
"Only some of the time does unauthorized copying result in the loss of payment?" In the context of IP piracy, no one knows that. We live in a world where the main barrier to copyright infringement is an individual's level of moral development and sense of personal responsibility. Comparing the real world to one where downloading is impossible is the only way to prove that statement, and those two worlds are so different that the claim is untestable and unsupportable.
Oh, sure, you can point to surveys of copyright infringers, but people who will infringe will lie (since copyright infringement is a felony in the United States, lying about it makes sense from a self-preservation point of view.) Of course, the infringers may just be lying to themselves. I guess a copyright infringer has to tell himself something that will let him go to sleep at night.
Uh... Hmmm.
1) Person A sells something for money.
2) Person B makes copies of it and distributes it (for money or for free), denying A payment for his product in one or more instances.
So, what is that denial of payment? What term are you comfortable with so we can move the debate past semantics?
an attractive nuisance? Based on all the suggestions in the posts above, everyone is sick of the adversarial relationship with the motion picture industry and a lot of people have adopted a "bring it on!" mentality.
You don't go after the hardware and software, you go after the criminals. The *AAs are treating the population the way the government treats us via the war on drugs: irresponsible and guilty.
The hard costs of a DVD and all its sexy packaging? A dollar. The value of the IP (how badly people want to see/own it) on the disk? Varies wildly. What are the options the studios have? 1) price according to IP value, 2) sell disks only to video rental places, who rent them out until the cost is recovered and then sell them used, 3) keep trying the crap with copy protection, 4) go after the IP thieves. I wonder how often they'll have to choose before they try something other than 3?
Comet: it makes your face turn green
O, Comet: it smells like Listerine!
O, Comet: It makes you vomit
So buy some Comet and vomit today!
for making ANYTHING into "Never Goes Down" is a marriage. Dammit.
'We might be moving beyond the graphical arms race soon, focusing more on player-driven experience'
Rotsa Ruck, Dude. That may occur at some mythical company that doesn't compete for investor dollars, publisher access, store shelf space, or floor space in an arcade. The phrase "We focus on game play" translates in the minds of investors, publishers, and buyers as "Looks like ass. Small cult following. Thank you, drive through." Why? Most of the decision-makers in this group aren't gamers, or they want something ultra-sexy running on the monitors in their establishments.
Wish I were kidding, but I'm not. Check the war stories posted by developers on Gamasutra.com for many heart-rending accounts of the graphics arms race and why it'll never end.
Let me be the one to point out (and point out with my identity shown) that copyright is protected by federal law. I'm not going to talk about right and wrong, but I am going to point out that the monkies out there who have a copy'n'paste "copyright is a civil issue" for every piracy story on /. have no idea what they're copying and pasting about. You may now continue with the rationalizations of your illegal activity already in progress.
"A Soviet scientist deduced from the Americans' silence on the topic that they were pursuing an atomic bomb. The Soviets soon followed suit."
Amateur paranoiacs cannot hope to compete with professional ones.
Kevin. Dude. Set the bong down slowly and back away from it. Please.
Uh, no. Let's stay with your approach and pretend human life has no value when we approach this calculation. The airline ValuJet was destroyed by a single plane crash in the Florida Everglades. And it was a crash caused by cargo improperly marked my a third party... The airline vanished (vanished into AirTran.)
And I don't think Comair's computer crash has a body count associated with it, let alone 110 people killed and turned into alligator poop. But in your universe, that apparently is trivial. Except for the $30,000,000 million dollar lawsuit outcome against the airline. So maybe that shows up on your radar.
That when you are talking about an airline, a COMPUTER crash is by far the least traumatic kind you can have.
turn MY mental illness into a crowd-pleasing source of income, I'd do it, too.
Jesus, what a lame graffiti. They should be locked up for conspiracy to commit weak-assed self-expression.
Awww... Snuggle Bear! Sounds like somebody needs a group hug!
That was funny.
It's not so bad. Really. If you want to punish yourself, pick up some of the cardboard-paged disappointments the next time you're at a bricks-and-mortar bookstore. This would make a good one of those, especially if it were die-cut in the shape of the last image, with Cthulu's noggin making the top of the book a nifty shape to add vim and vigor to the ending. I think it was a little too short, in that the book failed to reveal who had misguidedly or intentionally summoned the critter.
My nomination for worst of these kinds of books is "God Loves Little Lamb" which involves the tastiest critters in the barnyard giving thanks to the Good Lord. Really. It comes with a special plush lamb adhered to one of the covers so you can pet it and encourage it to put on a little weight in time for the next major holiday meal.
Thank God the rest of the internet is hoax-free. Now I can get back to my penis enlargement pill popping and free ipod winning in peace.
Now my crazy grandpa will have to find a NEW Number of the Beast to frighten my kids with.
Let's face it, cool car ideas come from people who love cars the way most /.ers love processor overclocking, water-cooling, and case mods. Convincing a wider audience that tweaking a hybrid will make it jump up and dance is never a bad idea.
Of course, as a side note, the industry's approach to hybrid autos is flat out wrong. Railroad trains are very efficient, well-proven hybrid designs: their diesel engines are always running at the most efficient level, and their momentum is provided entirely by electric motors. Tres spiffy.
Not at all. It's one thing to describe a movie or sing a song. That's spreading the idea. It's another to hand someone a finished piece of work that the creator and publisher are counting on for their livelihood without paying the price that the creator and publisher have set on it.
The free exchange of ideas includes a bunch of people discussing the concepts of reality explored in The Matrix. It doesn't include ripping DVDs or downloading torrents of the movie without compensating the copyright holders in the manner they've agreed to.
Nice try, though, Long John Silver.
people mistake "free exchange of ideas" and "I don't have to pay for it."
I've never understood basketball games on the computer. It's one of the few sports I can go out and try for real. Of course, I DO like being the bad guy in games I play... So I guess I can get the gangsta out of my system with one.
Apple is so cool it has stalkers.
First of all, it has the phrase that pays: "graceful degradation "
Next, it talks about verbose and useful errors, so that a techy can make intelligent decisions about terminating a process, restarting it, altering a file, or some other fix. Presumably, once a tech marks a problem "successfully fixed" by a certain set of actions enough times, the system wiull try those series of actions before throwing an error message.
What will be nice is when the system recognizes what it is it's doing, so it'll have a "what" area and a "how" area in its makeup so it knows what's involved to accomplish the task. Then, if the "How" gets damaged, it can refer to the "what" to reconfigure available resources to meet the desired outcome. And, if the "What" gets damaged, it can be rebuilt by analyzing the "What" part. THAT will be realio coolio.
Does the Bush White House know about this? "Every Hotspot is a terrorist Hotspot."