You want to live there? YOU PAY FOR IT. Don't make me subsidize your ocean view just because you chose a risky place to live, and I chose a place that requires me to get some good excersize with a snow shovel.
I tend to agree with him. I will not oppose spending money on rescue efforts, but I don't want my money to be spent to set up a situation requiring another rescue effor every year.
(And because people seem to like bringing it up, I don't want my money being spent to bomb Iraq, Afghanistan, or Lebenon either. Nor do I want it spent on Bush's adversitements, illegal wire tapping, hookers^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hinterns, campaign funds, bridges to nowhere, pension bailouts, corporate welfare, carnivore, Condi's airfare, security hole-ridden electronic voting machines, prosecuting peaceful pot-heads, rating video games, or my senator who doesn't even live in my state (I'm talking to YOU Hillary!).)
I fail to see how the fact that I'm using Debian contributes to my problem. I have a 2.6.16 kernel, the latest ATI drivers, and recent wireless drivers (and, as I said, the MOST recent wireless drivers do NOT work).
They teach the facts at school. They don't teach you to think about them.
It seems that one of the goals of the public school system is to teach the kids to think that government control, power, and regulation are good things, and will protect you from the bad guys.
Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05) Needs ipw2200 version 1.1.2. =1.1.3 doesn't work. 1.1.2 isn't in Debian testing.
ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300] The open drivers don't support acceleration. I can't play DVDs. I can't use Google Earth. OpenOffice is slow. ATI's driver works fine when it works, but crashes the kernel in about 1 of 10 X session logouts. No error logs. ATI's driver isn't in Debian testing, I had to pull it from unstable.
1) Linux is not well documented. Fundamental computer skills would have to involve wading through tens of thousands of entries in mailing lists archives, reading pages and pages of forums, patiently asking the same question for 2 days in an IRC channel before somebody knows the answer, trying driver versions 0.96.3-r1, 0.96.3-r2, 0.97.5, 0.97.6 (oops. with.6 it switched from firmware version 1.5 to 1.6), and 0.98.1 before you find one that works, even though the changelog mentions no changes that should affect your particular model (but then when 0.98.2 comes out, it doesn't work anymore), and what to do when you want to upgrade MajorApp from 2.2 to 3.0 because it has a new feature you want, but not it requires libDoStuff 1.5, but your distribution doesn't have a package for that, and all your other applications need 1.4. (Most distributions have a way to handle this, but it is absent from the documentation and only partially explained on a HOWTO in a forum, or on some incomprehensible Wiki page.)
2) Hardware support. Or more accurately: wireless card support, video card support, and non-post script printing. I tried every version of the driver for my wireless card that my distro's package system had before finding that for no documented reason, only one particular version that isn't packaged works. I finally got a combination of no framebuffer, a video driver, and an X configuration that supports 3d acceleration, but it randomly and inexplicably crashes the kernel (Not just the console, but the kernel. I can't even ping it anymore.) when I switch VTs or log out of a session stared with XDM. And everybody knows what a mess printing is. I know, this is the fault of Intel, ATI, and Hewlett-Packard. But blaming them does not make the problem go away.
The D&C is the worst newspaper I have ever read. And WHEC-TV 10 (News 10 NBC) has the worst news program I have ever seen. (Honestly, the whole thing seems like paid advertisements. You can get better news from Wease's Morning Caller-Abuse Show.) What does that say about the market?
Social skills and [false] confidence get you the job, not completely sucking* keeps you employed, and kissing above and kicking below (aka business skills) gets you promoted. Techical skills get stuff done.
* Nobody wants to fess up to hiring sub-par people, so they pretend they're okay and keep them around.
There are plenty of us who believe that the world was created by a supernatural being, and that supernatual being came up with this nifty process called evolution.
There is a possibility that man was created from dust, with a few million iterations of improvment from nothing more than dust to Homo sapien. It is also possible that some species evolved, but the supreme being stepped in and made changes from time to time. It is also possible that the universe somehow, through some unexplained phenomenon, came into existance, and continues without any interference from anything beyond the scope of the universe. Evidence indicates that many species did evolve, but it does not show, though many speculate, that all current species have a common ancestor.
How about looking at the evidence, leaving open the possible possibilities, and letting the evidence and science speak for itself without tying it your particular brand of atheism or religion? If I make any statements disproved by science and logic, let me know, but don't complain about my beliefs or lack thereof about what science has not explained.
There will not be more than 11 states. In 1861, people thought of themselves as a citizens of a state first, and of a country second. People were willing to fight for their state. The US was a Union of States; more like the EU is a union of countries than how the USA is currently a country divided up into states. Now people think that America is some great country, chosen by God. They aren't willing to fight it, and they sure aren't willing to put their money on their state over the government.*
People complain about the government like they complain about the weather - something to talk about, but nothing to be done. Why? Becaus we have houses and cars and food, and can live comfortably while its raining and while our freedoms are being systematically revoked. Its not until there is a flood that we take action, and by then its too late.
* Also note that people _supported_ giving up their right to form a militia. And that the federal government threatened to pull funding from states if they didn't disband or subjugate their militias to the federal government.**
** Solution: Federal government should get all its money from the states. Then it could not withhold money from the states to get more power. As a bonus, the states could stand up to the federal government by withholding money.
I did not word that well. Often times, your customer is a company or organization with 300 people. You cannot drop the one problematic person, for obvious reasons.
"So you're going to forfeit your ability to use a pretty cool technology just because some users *might* have javascript disabled?"
If your users pay you, and get angry with you because their IT guy came in during the weekend and ran Windows Update, which changed their security settings, and now your site doesn't work anymore (takes 30 minutes on the phone to find out what happened), and its all your fault, and then they badmouth you when prospective customers call for references, then yes, you forfeit your ability to use pretty cool technology.
My development environment consists of xterm, vim, ant, svn (subversion), grep, sed, and 3 web browsers (IE*, Firefox, and Konqueror) to test everything. (Okay, I simple graphical subversion client (esvn) and gvim too.)
I have my ant build scripts set up such that I can compile and deloy any of many configurations simply by passing an argument to ant, or any of many branches of the code by changing directories and rerunning ant. These tasks take my coworkers several minutes at best, as they have to change configurations in their IDEs (Eclipse and JBuilder) and manually move some directories around. They ask me every day if I can print a change log (svn log | lpr), or grep for something, or test a changeset on a different branch. (But they still ask me every day why I don't use an IDE.)
I will use an IDE if somebody makes one that has vi keybindings, vi style macros, some of the vi commands I use most (:s is most important), and keyboard text selection, copy and paste. It must also adapt to my directory setup and ant build files. It should be easy: parse the ant build file to get the source directory, the compiler output directory, and the required libraries. Then do all those cool editor tricks that I really wish I had, like right click on a method definition and find references. It would then need an icon for my build file that I could click to run the default target, or right click to get a flyout of its tasks. Then call ant. Add a file manager with cvs and subversion support, and you'd have a winner.
*VMWare running Windows 2000, with Adobe Acrobat Pro and IE. All legit. (I was amazed at how supportive Adobe was with me running Acrobat on VMWare. They emailed me a patch (the same one for people with RAID drives I think) so it didn't always think I had changed hardware, and its been working great. One of the tech support people I talked to was a GNU/Linux user himself.)
I use Debian stable on servers and Debian testing on my desktop. Why would I switch to Ubuntu on either? (I really would like to know why, I'm not trying to say that there isn't a reason.)
I have been pulled over, yelled at, harrassed by, and lied to by cops for doing such things as:
Driving 50 in zone that was theoretically a 35, but had NO SIGNS INDICATING SUCH, so I, along with everybody else, thought it was 55. (Ticket knocked down to non-moving violating, thanks a lot.)
Driving an old BMW in the city at 30 miles per hour in a 30 zone, and breaking no laws, but looking like I might possibly be maybe on my way to buy drugs? (I was not, I was going home.) (Cop left after yelling at me for a while.)
Making a completely legal U-Turn. (Cop threatened me in court, lied to the judge, lied to me, knocked down to a 75 USD parking ticket. And I had to drive 3 hours there and back for court.)
65 in a 55. Everyone else doing 75. I was out of state. Fine, I was breaking the law. The cop then wrote the ticket for 65, but then wrote "actual speed: 75" in the comment box on the ticket to make sure the judge wouldn't knock it down. He was a jerk too.
I am white. I have all my paperwork in order. I am polite. I am respectful.
I thought I was going to have a good experience with a cop once. He pulled over to help when my car broke down. But then one of his buddies stopped by, and they proceeded to block traffic unnecessarily (my car was off the road), and chatted for a while before calling the tow truck.
So the only good experience I had was getting a ticket for an overdue inspection. (The cop was polite and did his job properly.)
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That was an easy one. Next.
I think what he's trying to say is:
You want to live there? YOU PAY FOR IT. Don't make me subsidize your ocean view just because you chose a risky place to live, and I chose a place that requires me to get some good excersize with a snow shovel.
I tend to agree with him. I will not oppose spending money on rescue efforts, but I don't want my money to be spent to set up a situation requiring another rescue effor every year.
(And because people seem to like bringing it up, I don't want my money being spent to bomb Iraq, Afghanistan, or Lebenon either. Nor do I want it spent on Bush's adversitements, illegal wire tapping, hookers^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hinterns, campaign funds, bridges to nowhere, pension bailouts, corporate welfare, carnivore, Condi's airfare, security hole-ridden electronic voting machines, prosecuting peaceful pot-heads, rating video games, or my senator who doesn't even live in my state (I'm talking to YOU Hillary!).)
I tried the Ubuntu installer. It tripped up over my SATA-PATA bridge and wouldn't install.
I fail to see how the fact that I'm using Debian contributes to my problem. I have a 2.6.16 kernel, the latest ATI drivers, and recent wireless drivers (and, as I said, the MOST recent wireless drivers do NOT work).
Really? I have heard that reality has a conservative bias, and that many many liberals thinking the same wrong thing makes it well-known.
They teach the facts at school. They don't teach you to think about them.
It seems that one of the goals of the public school system is to teach the kids to think that government control, power, and regulation are good things, and will protect you from the bad guys.
"I call bullshit."
Nope.
IBM (Lenovo) Thinkpad T43. Debian testing.
Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
Needs ipw2200 version 1.1.2.
=1.1.3 doesn't work. 1.1.2 isn't in Debian testing.
ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300]
The open drivers don't support acceleration. I can't play DVDs. I can't use Google Earth. OpenOffice is slow.
ATI's driver works fine when it works, but crashes the kernel in about 1 of 10 X session logouts. No error logs.
ATI's driver isn't in Debian testing, I had to pull it from unstable.
I agree with you, but there are two problems.
.6 it switched from firmware version 1.5 to 1.6), and 0.98.1 before you find one that works, even though the changelog mentions no changes that should affect your particular model (but then when 0.98.2 comes out, it doesn't work anymore), and what to do when you want to upgrade MajorApp from 2.2 to 3.0 because it has a new feature you want, but not it requires libDoStuff 1.5, but your distribution doesn't have a package for that, and all your other applications need 1.4. (Most distributions have a way to handle this, but it is absent from the documentation and only partially explained on a HOWTO in a forum, or on some incomprehensible Wiki page.)
1) Linux is not well documented. Fundamental computer skills would have to involve wading through tens of thousands of entries in mailing lists archives, reading pages and pages of forums, patiently asking the same question for 2 days in an IRC channel before somebody knows the answer, trying driver versions 0.96.3-r1, 0.96.3-r2, 0.97.5, 0.97.6 (oops. with
2) Hardware support. Or more accurately: wireless card support, video card support, and non-post script printing. I tried every version of the driver for my wireless card that my distro's package system had before finding that for no documented reason, only one particular version that isn't packaged works. I finally got a combination of no framebuffer, a video driver, and an X configuration that supports 3d acceleration, but it randomly and inexplicably crashes the kernel (Not just the console, but the kernel. I can't even ping it anymore.) when I switch VTs or log out of a session stared with XDM. And everybody knows what a mess printing is. I know, this is the fault of Intel, ATI, and Hewlett-Packard. But blaming them does not make the problem go away.
The D&C is the worst newspaper I have ever read. And WHEC-TV 10 (News 10 NBC) has the worst news program I have ever seen. (Honestly, the whole thing seems like paid advertisements. You can get better news from Wease's Morning Caller-Abuse Show.) What does that say about the market?
Social skills and [false] confidence get you the job, not completely sucking* keeps you employed, and kissing above and kicking below (aka business skills) gets you promoted. Techical skills get stuff done.
* Nobody wants to fess up to hiring sub-par people, so they pretend they're okay and keep them around.
There are plenty of us who believe that the world was created by a supernatural being, and that supernatual being came up with this nifty process called evolution.
There is a possibility that man was created from dust, with a few million iterations of improvment from nothing more than dust to Homo sapien. It is also possible that some species evolved, but the supreme being stepped in and made changes from time to time. It is also possible that the universe somehow, through some unexplained phenomenon, came into existance, and continues without any interference from anything beyond the scope of the universe. Evidence indicates that many species did evolve, but it does not show, though many speculate, that all current species have a common ancestor.
How about looking at the evidence, leaving open the possible possibilities, and letting the evidence and science speak for itself without tying it your particular brand of atheism or religion? If I make any statements disproved by science and logic, let me know, but don't complain about my beliefs or lack thereof about what science has not explained.
Bingo. Nobody actually needs to ever buy the product for spam to be profitable. Thats why it won't go away.
Anybody have a solid case that they can put in a backpack that will save the computer when a bus runs you off the road?
Look up the word Draconian.
There will not be more than 11 states. In 1861, people thought of themselves as a citizens of a state first, and of a country second. People were willing to fight for their state. The US was a Union of States; more like the EU is a union of countries than how the USA is currently a country divided up into states. Now people think that America is some great country, chosen by God. They aren't willing to fight it, and they sure aren't willing to put their money on their state over the government.*
People complain about the government like they complain about the weather - something to talk about, but nothing to be done. Why? Becaus we have houses and cars and food, and can live comfortably while its raining and while our freedoms are being systematically revoked. Its not until there is a flood that we take action, and by then its too late.
* Also note that people _supported_ giving up their right to form a militia. And that the federal government threatened to pull funding from states if they didn't disband or subjugate their militias to the federal government.**
** Solution: Federal government should get all its money from the states. Then it could not withhold money from the states to get more power. As a bonus, the states could stand up to the federal government by withholding money.
I did not word that well. Often times, your customer is a company or organization with 300 people. You cannot drop the one problematic person, for obvious reasons.
Often times one bad customer comes with a group of 299 good ones. You can't just drop one.
"So you're going to forfeit your ability to use a pretty cool technology just because some users *might* have javascript disabled?"
If your users pay you, and get angry with you because their IT guy came in during the weekend and ran Windows Update, which changed their security settings, and now your site doesn't work anymore (takes 30 minutes on the phone to find out what happened), and its all your fault, and then they badmouth you when prospective customers call for references, then yes, you forfeit your ability to use pretty cool technology.
My development environment consists of xterm, vim, ant, svn (subversion), grep, sed, and 3 web browsers (IE*, Firefox, and Konqueror) to test everything. (Okay, I simple graphical subversion client (esvn) and gvim too.)
I have my ant build scripts set up such that I can compile and deloy any of many configurations simply by passing an argument to ant, or any of many branches of the code by changing directories and rerunning ant. These tasks take my coworkers several minutes at best, as they have to change configurations in their IDEs (Eclipse and JBuilder) and manually move some directories around. They ask me every day if I can print a change log (svn log | lpr), or grep for something, or test a changeset on a different branch. (But they still ask me every day why I don't use an IDE.)
I will use an IDE if somebody makes one that has vi keybindings, vi style macros, some of the vi commands I use most (:s is most important), and keyboard text selection, copy and paste. It must also adapt to my directory setup and ant build files. It should be easy: parse the ant build file to get the source directory, the compiler output directory, and the required libraries. Then do all those cool editor tricks that I really wish I had, like right click on a method definition and find references. It would then need an icon for my build file that I could click to run the default target, or right click to get a flyout of its tasks. Then call ant. Add a file manager with cvs and subversion support, and you'd have a winner.
*VMWare running Windows 2000, with Adobe Acrobat Pro and IE. All legit. (I was amazed at how supportive Adobe was with me running Acrobat on VMWare. They emailed me a patch (the same one for people with RAID drives I think) so it didn't always think I had changed hardware, and its been working great. One of the tech support people I talked to was a GNU/Linux user himself.)
Taking into account cost of living, try India.
I use Debian stable on servers and Debian testing on my desktop. Why would I switch to Ubuntu on either? (I really would like to know why, I'm not trying to say that there isn't a reason.)
I'm driving a 20 year old rusty BMW 325 that has 2 body panels painted a different color than the rest of the car.
I have been pulled over, yelled at, harrassed by, and lied to by cops for doing such things as:
Driving 50 in zone that was theoretically a 35, but had NO SIGNS INDICATING SUCH, so I, along with everybody else, thought it was 55.
(Ticket knocked down to non-moving violating, thanks a lot.)
Driving an old BMW in the city at 30 miles per hour in a 30 zone, and breaking no laws, but looking like I might possibly be maybe on my way to buy drugs? (I was not, I was going home.)
(Cop left after yelling at me for a while.)
Making a completely legal U-Turn.
(Cop threatened me in court, lied to the judge, lied to me, knocked down to a 75 USD parking ticket. And I had to drive 3 hours there and back for court.)
65 in a 55. Everyone else doing 75. I was out of state. Fine, I was breaking the law. The cop then wrote the ticket for 65, but then wrote "actual speed: 75" in the comment box on the ticket to make sure the judge wouldn't knock it down. He was a jerk too.
I am white. I have all my paperwork in order. I am polite. I am respectful.
I thought I was going to have a good experience with a cop once. He pulled over to help when my car broke down. But then one of his buddies stopped by, and they proceeded to block traffic unnecessarily (my car was off the road), and chatted for a while before calling the tow truck.
So the only good experience I had was getting a ticket for an overdue inspection. (The cop was polite and did his job properly.)
Four out of five jerks.
Not until after the people wake up.
"a certain state-supported religion's believers."
You mean capitalists?