You do realise changing the wording changes the meaning. It's almost as if the words have meaning.
I don't doubt different places have different public transport. Choose to buy a car, of a few. Or chose to live somewhere with better public transport and/or closer to your work/transport etc.
Relying entirely on one car is never as good as owning 2 or 10. Car owners may sometimes choose to use one car in certain circumstances.
I was responding to the never part, which is clearly wrong. Showing examples where a car is better - is it too much of a stretch to call that a strawman?
Maybe you should have just read the link and listened to the people who actually know.
The escalating trade spat between the United States and China has impacted the autos sector with car-makers finding it increasingly tough to plan longer-term projects, a Daimler board member told CNBC on Wednesday.
"The steel and aluminium prices skyrocketed in the United States, making our tax more expensive there," Martin Daum said, adding that the big concern is planning future projects.
"These days, we talk about the products we are going to launch in 2022, 2023. We talk to our suppliers who have to invest heavily and they need stability to make those investment decisions."
You wave you hands around talking about plastic bits. Who should we listen to...
Things like automobile production that have a lot of parts will suffer supply hiccups, but OTOH they're not really doing JIT manufacturing, most cars sit around on lots before even being transferred to the dealers, and the disruptions aren't as bad as they might sound on the tee-vee. The vast majority of products do not have that many parts. And none of it is exclusive to China. None of it.
Car companies are deciding now what models they will release in 2022. They have to decide now, where to build the plants, where to get the supplies etc. not knowing which countries will have tariffs at what levels on which parts is extremely disruptive and costly.
I was under impression that it was illegal in nearly all states. I posted the link AFTER to clear up my statement.
Therein lies the difference between you and me.
No, the difference between you and me is I check first.
You pretend you know things. State them as facts, (often when you have already previously been shown you are wrong). And basically just lie constantly.
Even on the occasion you have a valid point, you still exaggerate it and manage to turn it into a lie as well.
You lie, troll, and AC constantly.
You claim that all the time, but have still failed on every occasion to show any. Care to try again?
I make mistakes, but clear them up and admit it.
You posted a link, with absolutely nothing else.
Is that supposed to be an example of you admitting your mistake and clearing it up?
Because it seems to normal people, that you posted a link to show you were right, but were too stupid to actually bother to read it first.
You OTH, continue to lie and just BS upon BS upon BS. Of course, that is what you are paid to do, in china.
Where are the lies?
Where is the BS?
You have never shown a lie, can you even show some BS?
Only one time did you ever admit your 'mistake'. And that was after you 'mistakenly' claimed the same thing over and over going back years. Why did you never check?
Nearly all states have anti-scalping laws on the books.
His link says...
There is no federal law against scalping, but, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL), 15 states ban the practice in some way, most labeling it as a misdemeanor with penalties including fines and/or up to a year in jail. States that restrict scalping include: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, New Mexico, Ohio, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin.
There have been increases in productivity going back decades. How come people are still forced to work just as many hours as before?
How much is enough?
Plenty of people have little capital. But which 'millions of people will starve to death' for this 'crime against humanity' was what I replied to. Context.
For example, it is lawful for Michigan to require food labels that specifically identify certain animal parts, if they are present in the product, because the state law applies to food produced in Michigan as well as food imported from other states and foreign countries; the state law would violate the Commerce Clause if it applied only to imported food or if it was otherwise found to favor domestic over imported products. Likewise, California law requires milk sold to contain a certain percentage of milk solids that federal law does not require, which is allowed under the Dormant Commerce Clause doctrine because California's stricter requirements apply equally to California-produced milk and imported milk and so does not discriminate against or inappropriately burden interstate commerce.[2]
Just as I have said. If the tax is applied against ALL CONSUMED GOODS/SERVICES, then it is fine. The only ones that it is not applied to, is anything made/services in CA, and exported, would not be subject to that tax, which makes perfect sense.
So you want to label where the product comes from. OK. So what? How will that change the CO2?
Or do you want to tax everything the same? Again so what? How will that change anything but make EVERYTHING more expensive regardless of origin?
Likely you want to charge different rates based on some magical criteria you just haven't thought up yet (just to punish China). Guess what stupid, that's the illegal part that makes your whole plan idiotic. And specifically why it doesn't match the examples you are trying to use.
Even pretending it wasn't completely illegal to do. How would you possibly measure it? The CO2 emitted for that product?
The total emissions of the country regardless of what the product is? That's just blatantly discriminating against larger countries (obviously you're targeting China). You will tax Americans more than Australians and Canadians? You will tax America at the second highest level in the world behind China?
And you think anyone will vote for your plan?
Based on per capita, then you're just shooting yourself in the foot again considering America is twice China. You want to tax Americans twice what you tax Chinese companies.
And you think anyone will vote for your plan?
Complete and utter garbage plan with no thought at all of the consequences.
Put another way, the 328 million people living in the US consume more energy for cooling than the 4.4 billion people living in all of Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, and Asia (excluding China) combined, according to the IEA report.
America uses about 4-5 times as much electricity for cooling as the EU.
No, newer air conditioners are more efficient than the old ones in use now.
Average Chinese air conditioners are better than average American air conditioners for example. That will only get better as more newer ones are installed.
That pressure works both ways.
Google probably isn't the best example. They may be more willing to please the Government to be allowed into China at all, than trying to please users and take market share.
Which pressure is greater, from the customers or from the Government.
Also, what stops the Chinese government from pointing at the highest censorship company and telling all the others to be more like them, or get fined/punished. Look they can do it, why not you?
Already responded to all your lies here.
You moved the goalposts, and then still had to lie anyway.
Did you also notice from your link that China's coal use was highest in 2013?
So you can quit lying about it being at record highs. And also lying that it's increasing massively every year like you always do.
I've showed you numerous times Windy. herehere and here at least 3 times just recently and many more previously. Don't pretend you don't know you are being dishonest.
Each time the discussion was about coal used for eletricity.
Even now everyone has been talking about electricity and you throw in a number (with a paywalled link, step up from no link at all I guess) that is including industrial coal use as well. Then claiming people are lying. (quite deceitful of you)
Strange that you would claim for the last 10 years. When even your own data shows 10 years ago in 2008 America consumed 535.9 and China consumed 1609.3
It's obvious even using total coal and not just electricity, per person America is way way higher. You can find the year it crossed over if you like. But why did you have to lie about it in the first place?
So you move the goalposts, claim falsely that other people are lying, and then with your moved goalposts you still have to lie anyway to make it seem even worse. You just can't help yourself.
China consumes over 1/2 of the consumed coal on this PLANET EACH YEAR for the last 10 years.
And then there is this blatant lie. You can clearly see the red line is under the black one. Why lie all the time?
Again random AC's are me.
Again you accuse me of lying with no evidence whatsoever.
When will you learn Windy?
You are still yet to show a single lie, yet you claim it all the time.
You like to also claim any random AC is me, it's probably you. You are dishonest enough to pull that shit.
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While riding the subway you can use a dictionary and look up the word 'never'.
Just wait until autonomous driving. You can take one, have the other drive itself, and then choose again for the trip home.
You do realise changing the wording changes the meaning. It's almost as if the words have meaning.
I don't doubt different places have different public transport. Choose to buy a car, of a few. Or chose to live somewhere with better public transport and/or closer to your work/transport etc.
Relying entirely on one car is never as good as owning 2 or 10. Car owners may sometimes choose to use one car in certain circumstances.
I was responding to the never part, which is clearly wrong. Showing examples where a car is better - is it too much of a stretch to call that a strawman?
public transport can never be as good as owning a car.
Traffic jam vs subway.
JUST BARELY legal
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legal
The escalating trade spat between the United States and China has impacted the autos sector with car-makers finding it increasingly tough to plan longer-term projects, a Daimler board member told CNBC on Wednesday.
"The steel and aluminium prices skyrocketed in the United States, making our tax more expensive there," Martin Daum said, adding that the big concern is planning future projects.
"These days, we talk about the products we are going to launch in 2022, 2023. We talk to our suppliers who have to invest heavily and they need stability to make those investment decisions."
You wave you hands around talking about plastic bits. Who should we listen to...
Things like automobile production that have a lot of parts will suffer supply hiccups, but OTOH they're not really doing JIT manufacturing, most cars sit around on lots before even being transferred to the dealers, and the disruptions aren't as bad as they might sound on the tee-vee. The vast majority of products do not have that many parts. And none of it is exclusive to China. None of it.
Car companies are deciding now what models they will release in 2022. They have to decide now, where to build the plants, where to get the supplies etc. not knowing which countries will have tariffs at what levels on which parts is extremely disruptive and costly.
Only you Windy could manage to bring coal into a topic about AI.
I was under impression that it was illegal in nearly all states. I posted the link AFTER to clear up my statement.
Therein lies the difference between you and me.
No, the difference between you and me is I check first.
You pretend you know things. State them as facts, (often when you have already previously been shown you are wrong). And basically just lie constantly.
Even on the occasion you have a valid point, you still exaggerate it and manage to turn it into a lie as well.
You lie, troll, and AC constantly.
You claim that all the time, but have still failed on every occasion to show any. Care to try again?
I make mistakes, but clear them up and admit it.
You posted a link, with absolutely nothing else.
Is that supposed to be an example of you admitting your mistake and clearing it up?
Because it seems to normal people, that you posted a link to show you were right, but were too stupid to actually bother to read it first.
You OTH, continue to lie and just BS upon BS upon BS. Of course, that is what you are paid to do, in china.
Where are the lies?
Where is the BS?
You have never shown a lie, can you even show some BS?
I often point out your lies and lies more lies more lies even more lies lies and lies When you aren't lying, you are just making shit up that is in no way believable, and lying.
Only one time did you ever admit your 'mistake'. And that was after you 'mistakenly' claimed the same thing over and over going back years. Why did you never check?
Nearly all states have anti-scalping laws on the books.
His link says...
There is no federal law against scalping, but, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL), 15 states ban the practice in some way, most labeling it as a misdemeanor with penalties including fines and/or up to a year in jail. States that restrict scalping include: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, New Mexico, Ohio, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin.
There have been increases in productivity going back decades. How come people are still forced to work just as many hours as before?
How much is enough?
Plenty of people have little capital. But which 'millions of people will starve to death' for this 'crime against humanity' was what I replied to. Context.
Because giving people a little more free time will make everyone starve to death...
You should be the absolute last person to ask anyone for proof Windy.
You never show any proof when called out on all your lies.
I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
2'nd paragraph said it all:
For example, it is lawful for Michigan to require food labels that specifically identify certain animal parts, if they are present in the product, because the state law applies to food produced in Michigan as well as food imported from other states and foreign countries; the state law would violate the Commerce Clause if it applied only to imported food or if it was otherwise found to favor domestic over imported products. Likewise, California law requires milk sold to contain a certain percentage of milk solids that federal law does not require, which is allowed under the Dormant Commerce Clause doctrine because California's stricter requirements apply equally to California-produced milk and imported milk and so does not discriminate against or inappropriately burden interstate commerce.[2]
Just as I have said. If the tax is applied against ALL CONSUMED GOODS/SERVICES, then it is fine. The only ones that it is not applied to, is anything made/services in CA, and exported, would not be subject to that tax, which makes perfect sense.
So you want to label where the product comes from. OK. So what? How will that change the CO2?
Or do you want to tax everything the same? Again so what? How will that change anything but make EVERYTHING more expensive regardless of origin?
Likely you want to charge different rates based on some magical criteria you just haven't thought up yet (just to punish China). Guess what stupid, that's the illegal part that makes your whole plan idiotic. And specifically why it doesn't match the examples you are trying to use.
Even pretending it wasn't completely illegal to do. How would you possibly measure it? The CO2 emitted for that product?
The total emissions of the country regardless of what the product is? That's just blatantly discriminating against larger countries (obviously you're targeting China). You will tax Americans more than Australians and Canadians? You will tax America at the second highest level in the world behind China?
And you think anyone will vote for your plan?
Based on per capita, then you're just shooting yourself in the foot again considering America is twice China. You want to tax Americans twice what you tax Chinese companies.
And you think anyone will vote for your plan?
Complete and utter garbage plan with no thought at all of the consequences.
Put another way, the 328 million people living in the US consume more energy for cooling than the 4.4 billion people living in all of Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, and Asia (excluding China) combined, according to the IEA report.
America uses about 4-5 times as much electricity for cooling as the EU.
No, newer air conditioners are more efficient than the old ones in use now.
Average Chinese air conditioners are better than average American air conditioners for example. That will only get better as more newer ones are installed.
That pressure works both ways.
Google probably isn't the best example. They may be more willing to please the Government to be allowed into China at all, than trying to please users and take market share.
Which pressure is greater, from the customers or from the Government.
Also, what stops the Chinese government from pointing at the highest censorship company and telling all the others to be more like them, or get fined/punished. Look they can do it, why not you?
Already responded to all your lies here. You moved the goalposts, and then still had to lie anyway.
Did you also notice from your link that China's coal use was highest in 2013?
So you can quit lying about it being at record highs. And also lying that it's increasing massively every year like you always do.
I've showed you numerous times Windy. here here and here at least 3 times just recently and many more previously. Don't pretend you don't know you are being dishonest.
Each time the discussion was about coal used for eletricity.
Even now everyone has been talking about electricity and you throw in a number (with a paywalled link, step up from no link at all I guess) that is including industrial coal use as well. Then claiming people are lying. (quite deceitful of you)
Strange that you would claim for the last 10 years. When even your own data shows 10 years ago in 2008 America consumed 535.9 and China consumed 1609.3
It's obvious even using total coal and not just electricity, per person America is way way higher. You can find the year it crossed over if you like. But why did you have to lie about it in the first place?
So you move the goalposts, claim falsely that other people are lying, and then with your moved goalposts you still have to lie anyway to make it seem even worse. You just can't help yourself.
China consumes over 1/2 of the consumed coal on this PLANET EACH YEAR for the last 10 years.
And then there is this blatant lie. You can clearly see the red line is under the black one. Why lie all the time?
Again random AC's are me. Again you accuse me of lying with no evidence whatsoever. When will you learn Windy?
You are still yet to show a single lie, yet you claim it all the time. You like to also claim any random AC is me, it's probably you. You are dishonest enough to pull that shit.
I often point out your lies and lies more lies more lies even more lies lies and lies When you aren't lying, you are just making shit up that is in no way believable, and lying.
One is 'cheaper' than the other because they decide to sell it for less money.
Oh it's also more reliable, saves on manufacturing and supply management.
You are aware that hurricanes don't form at the poles, but over tropical waters...