America, the world's bastion of freedom, is holding dozens of people without a trial, without rights without outside contact and it is destroying our reputation around the world.
But here's the thing - they are getting trials, and they are being sent home. The right to hold them for a substantial period isn't without legal precedent.
And you do realize these folks weren't exactly picked up off the street for jaywalking, right? Most, if not all, were caught on the battlefield, and those who weren't, like Khalid Sheik Mohammad (considered the Forrest Gump of terrorism) were put there for their positions in terror groups such as al-Qaeda. For the most part, the folks in this prison don't have "sob stories".
I love how just a few days before the inauguration, as soon it was leaked that Mr. Obama would be closing the Guantanamo prison, the media reported on a study that showed most of the people that spent time at the prison were then RE-CAUGHT supporting terrorist groups!
You are a fool if you think this is a good idea. There's no better way to waste millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars... just look at the Zacarias Moussaoui trial, and how he single handedly managed to make the American judicial system look like a joke.
Multiply that by at least 30. Treating these people like common criminals will be the biggest mistake this administration can make.
I believe the State of Louisiana spoke as to who was actually responsible for the Katrina & Rita mess when it didn't even give Kathleen Blanco a chance to run for re-election...
I have been an XM radio customer, from Day 1... My favorite 3 channels on XM was Ethel, Lucy, and Fred (yeah, an awesome "I Love Lucy" reference). Since the merger was complete, these stations have been taken off the air, and replaced with "Alt Nation", "Lithium" and "1st Wave" - of the 3, "1st Wave" is the only one worth anything.
I *never* heard repeated music, at least in the same day, on Ethel or Lucy. On Sirius's Ethel-equivalent, "Alt Nation", I've heard The Airborne Toxicity "Sometime Around Midnight" *FIVE TIMES* in the same day! (The song sucks, by the way.)
Oh but now, due to the merger, I can get 24/7 AC/DC, 24/7 Jimmy Buffett, and 24/7 Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, that's worth it.:sarcasm:
Well, these guys would not be considered one of the major lines (i.e. Greyhound). These are lines which specifically cater to migrant workers and illegal immigrants, financed by wealthy Mexican nationals in the United States. As I mentioned before, one of them was El Expresso.
that's a non sequeter
First off, its non sequitur, and secondly, the man is not going to lie in court - doing so would jeopardize his entire future career as an immigration lawyer, as no bar in the country would admit him. Do I need to make it any clearer for you?
"In short - the only people really being stopped by the border "There are specific checkpoints in place along the routes, where the border patrol makes a stop of these buses, and they run citizenship checks. About once every 30-50 stops, they make an arrest - a SINGLE arrest."
patrol are buses that they know cater to illegal immigrants. Ordinary citizens, as the ACLU claims, are not being stopped and harassed by border patrol agents - its simply not happening."
That has to be the best example of XOR I've seen an a while
An ordinary citizen is not going to be on one of these bus lines. Most of their customers are immigrants with papers and illegals... that's not an "ordinary citizen" by any stretch of the imagination.
so everyone on the bus is an illegal immigrant, but they make a single arrest? i call shenanigans
Do you not have basic reading skills? I'd say "yes". Let me repeat what I just said, with a little extra clarification for you, since you apparently need it - as I said before, these bus lines cater to immigrants (i.e. migrant workers), not all of whom are legal. So everyone on the bus â illegal, but on average, in 1 in 30 stops (at least according to the Sheriffs department in the adjoining parish who works with the BP), they find an "undocumented worker" (have to love the politically correct language), whom they arrest.
"In short - the only people really being stopped by the border patrol are buses that they know cater to illegal immigrants. Ordinary citizens, as the ACLU claims, are not being stopped and harassed by border patrol agents - its simply not happening."
That has to be the best example of XOR I've seen an a while
An ordinary citizen is not going to be on one of these bus lines. Most of their customers are immigrants with papers and illegals... that's not an "ordinary citizen" by any stretch of the imagination.
Your BP agent friend is either lying or drinking the Cool-Aid. Sounds like the bus companies are rich enough to actually sue.
One of the three major companies went out of business due to all of the lawsuits it got involved in.
I can assure you he's not lying or drinking the kool-aid; He's worked for them for several years, has been involved in these stops, and has testified in court as to them.
A friend of mine that I go to law school with works for the Border Patrol here in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. During class a few weeks ago, we were talking about these administrative stops, and he was more than willing to give us the entire scoop. Based on what an actual border patrol agent has told me, most of the ACLU's arguments on this page are absolute crap.
First off, the Border Patrol typically only stops buses, and not just any bus, specific bus lines. There are a number of bus companies, operating out of Houston, that cater specifically to illegal immigrants; the border patrol is well aware of this (El Expresso is the one that immediately comes to mind). There are specific checkpoints in place along the routes, where the border patrol makes a stop of these buses, and they run citizenship checks. About once every 30-50 stops, they make an arrest - a SINGLE arrest.
Once a bus is checked, it is NOT checked again, as the courts have forced the border patrol to put in place a system as to not cause a burden to these bus companies and the people on them.
In short - the only people really being stopped by the border patrol are buses that they know cater to illegal immigrants. Ordinary citizens, as the ACLU claims, are not being stopped and harassed by border patrol agents - its simply not happening.
The city of Lafayette laid its own fiber and BellSouth sued. A Louisiana district court ruled in favor of the city. Shortly after, BellSouth pulled its 1000+ employee call center from the city, citing "changing economic conditions."
...we could fix the problem with a Netherlands' style levee system.... Oh wait, the environmentalists and the Democrats destroyed that idea back in the 70s.
Let's see: They estimated maintenance costs of $600,000 a year. I don't know much about wages in the US, but it's fair to assume that 5 janitors would have done the job at a lower price
Most janitors are paid minimum wage or slightly above minimum wage, so lets just say $7/hr for all intents and purposes. Most janitors are not full-time employees, because then their employer would have to give them benefits, so lets just say they work 30 hours a week in a possible 40 hour work week.
Actually, he should complain to the local franchise authority. The FA has authority over billing disputes such as this, and the FCC will just direct him there.
Yes they do. I have two in my TiVo right now here in Louisiana. If Cox here in the boondocks has CableCARDs, there's no reason your franchise shouldn't have them.
And besides, they are legally mandated to offer CableCARD service; only small local providers are exempt from the FCC's Integration Ban.
I know what a UPS is. I'm not running a fine-tuned operation and do not mind getting up off of my skinny ass to reset the router when I have a brown out, which is once in a blue moon.
The only time I've ever had an issue with my AE base station is after a brown out - for some odd reason, it will not work after a brown out and does require a restart. Any other time, though, I have never had a problem with the AE base station... and mine's refurbished!
...against Obama. Googlebomb his name with Links to "Saddam Hussein" and "Islamic Fascism" on wikipedia. Sure, it may not be true and a load of crap, but boy, it would sure be fun.
Data plans are now $10 more than they are now, so $30/month, with a $39.99/month minimum voice plan... (all in one convenient 24 month contract!)
I'm sure that more than makes up for Apple's decrease in price, since they get a cut of that in their profit sharing deal with AT&T.
Not dissing Apple or the iPhone, as I was an early adopter of the original, and will probably be an early adopter of this one.
If you were to actually click on the "Mac OS X Users start here..." link, you would see that the latest version for OSX users is 1.9.3, which is several years old and has limited functionality. In fact, TiVoToGo is only supported when you purchase Roxio Toast.
I can see a court striking this down real quickly - it was obviously not the legislative intent for the word "degrade" to be used in this most technical sense. Italy, being a Civilian country, likely has on the books an article which states, "All words and phrases will be subject to their most common meaning and interpretation if such interpretation does not lead to absurd consequences."
Yes, but you missed my point. I don't have an issue with people going to Apple to get their phone fixed due to a defect in workmanship for something like a broken screen, and if they refuse service, then that person ought to sue.
However, all of these morons that ended up with iBricks because they unlocked their phone (in violation of the phone's warranty & terms of service) or installed unauthorized 3rd party addons (also in violation of the warranty & terms of service) and then upgraded with plenty of prior warning (i.e. press release, notices in various media, big bold print saying the update will render your phone inoperable if you've done these things) won't have a chance in hell in court against Apple. It will be mighty easy for Apple to show you tampered with the phone if its seczone reads anything but "0" or "1".
I would go on about how, of course, there is an implied warranty, but it doesn't apply if you decide to run unauthorized programs on your phone, but I'm really freakin' tired.
Like I posted on the hackint0sh forums, the Act that everybody keeps citing saying that Apple can't deny (Magnuson-Moss Act) does not apply to the iPhone's warranty. It applies only to FULL warranties; the iPhone warranty is a LIMITED warranty.
Certainly if they did it maliciously, then there would be a tort action. But if you use your product in a way that is not intended, they don't have to cover it (read the paragraph in the warranty concerning failure to follow instructions). Its like if you put tiny rims on your new SUV and break an axle - yeah, you can do that and its a third party device, but the car company doesn't have to warranty the car if your stupid ass caused the damage because you made an unauthorized modification to a key component of the car.
Laws may vary by state to state, but I'm pretty sure this is a lost cause unless somebody can prove malicious intent on the part of Apple.
For the 9th to toss it out changes many contracts.
Not really. Courts have thrown out arbitration clauses before, simply because they're weighted too much in favor of one corporation with a lot of power, versus an individual. One case in particular comes to mind... Hooters of America v. Phillips.
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America, the world's bastion of freedom, is holding dozens of people without a trial, without rights without outside contact and it is destroying our reputation around the world.
But here's the thing - they are getting trials, and they are being sent home. The right to hold them for a substantial period isn't without legal precedent.
And you do realize these folks weren't exactly picked up off the street for jaywalking, right? Most, if not all, were caught on the battlefield, and those who weren't, like Khalid Sheik Mohammad (considered the Forrest Gump of terrorism) were put there for their positions in terror groups such as al-Qaeda. For the most part, the folks in this prison don't have "sob stories".
I love how just a few days before the inauguration, as soon it was leaked that Mr. Obama would be closing the Guantanamo prison, the media reported on a study that showed most of the people that spent time at the prison were then RE-CAUGHT supporting terrorist groups!
closing down the Guantanamo Bay prison
You are a fool if you think this is a good idea. There's no better way to waste millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars... just look at the Zacarias Moussaoui trial, and how he single handedly managed to make the American judicial system look like a joke.
Multiply that by at least 30. Treating these people like common criminals will be the biggest mistake this administration can make.
I believe the State of Louisiana spoke as to who was actually responsible for the Katrina & Rita mess when it didn't even give Kathleen Blanco a chance to run for re-election...
I have been an XM radio customer, from Day 1... My favorite 3 channels on XM was Ethel, Lucy, and Fred (yeah, an awesome "I Love Lucy" reference). Since the merger was complete, these stations have been taken off the air, and replaced with "Alt Nation", "Lithium" and "1st Wave" - of the 3, "1st Wave" is the only one worth anything.
I *never* heard repeated music, at least in the same day, on Ethel or Lucy. On Sirius's Ethel-equivalent, "Alt Nation", I've heard The Airborne Toxicity "Sometime Around Midnight" *FIVE TIMES* in the same day! (The song sucks, by the way.)
Oh but now, due to the merger, I can get 24/7 AC/DC, 24/7 Jimmy Buffett, and 24/7 Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, that's worth it. :sarcasm:
what three bus companies are we talking about?
Well, these guys would not be considered one of the major lines (i.e. Greyhound). These are lines which specifically cater to migrant workers and illegal immigrants, financed by wealthy Mexican nationals in the United States. As I mentioned before, one of them was El Expresso.
that's a non sequeter
First off, its non sequitur, and secondly, the man is not going to lie in court - doing so would jeopardize his entire future career as an immigration lawyer, as no bar in the country would admit him. Do I need to make it any clearer for you?
"In short - the only people really being stopped by the border "There are specific checkpoints in place along the routes, where the border patrol makes a stop of these buses, and they run citizenship checks. About once every 30-50 stops, they make an arrest - a SINGLE arrest."
patrol are buses that they know cater to illegal immigrants. Ordinary citizens, as the ACLU claims, are not being stopped and harassed by border patrol agents - its simply not happening."
That has to be the best example of XOR I've seen an a while
An ordinary citizen is not going to be on one of these bus lines. Most of their customers are immigrants with papers and illegals... that's not an "ordinary citizen" by any stretch of the imagination.
so everyone on the bus is an illegal immigrant, but they make a single arrest? i call shenanigans
Do you not have basic reading skills? I'd say "yes". Let me repeat what I just said, with a little extra clarification for you, since you apparently need it - as I said before, these bus lines cater to immigrants (i.e. migrant workers), not all of whom are legal. So everyone on the bus â illegal, but on average, in 1 in 30 stops (at least according to the Sheriffs department in the adjoining parish who works with the BP), they find an "undocumented worker" (have to love the politically correct language), whom they arrest.
"In short - the only people really being stopped by the border patrol are buses that they know cater to illegal immigrants. Ordinary citizens, as the ACLU claims, are not being stopped and harassed by border patrol agents - its simply not happening."
That has to be the best example of XOR I've seen an a while
An ordinary citizen is not going to be on one of these bus lines. Most of their customers are immigrants with papers and illegals... that's not an "ordinary citizen" by any stretch of the imagination.
Your BP agent friend is either lying or drinking the Cool-Aid. Sounds like the bus companies are rich enough to actually sue.
One of the three major companies went out of business due to all of the lawsuits it got involved in.
I can assure you he's not lying or drinking the kool-aid; He's worked for them for several years, has been involved in these stops, and has testified in court as to them.
A friend of mine that I go to law school with works for the Border Patrol here in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. During class a few weeks ago, we were talking about these administrative stops, and he was more than willing to give us the entire scoop. Based on what an actual border patrol agent has told me, most of the ACLU's arguments on this page are absolute crap.
First off, the Border Patrol typically only stops buses, and not just any bus, specific bus lines. There are a number of bus companies, operating out of Houston, that cater specifically to illegal immigrants; the border patrol is well aware of this (El Expresso is the one that immediately comes to mind). There are specific checkpoints in place along the routes, where the border patrol makes a stop of these buses, and they run citizenship checks. About once every 30-50 stops, they make an arrest - a SINGLE arrest.
Once a bus is checked, it is NOT checked again, as the courts have forced the border patrol to put in place a system as to not cause a burden to these bus companies and the people on them.
In short - the only people really being stopped by the border patrol are buses that they know cater to illegal immigrants. Ordinary citizens, as the ACLU claims, are not being stopped and harassed by border patrol agents - its simply not happening.
Yes - West Texas, along portions of Interstates 10 and 20. Check the I-10 wikipedia page for a picture of the sign...
The city of Lafayette laid its own fiber and BellSouth sued. A Louisiana district court ruled in favor of the city. Shortly after, BellSouth pulled its 1000+ employee call center from the city, citing "changing economic conditions."
...we could fix the problem with a Netherlands' style levee system.... Oh wait, the environmentalists and the Democrats destroyed that idea back in the 70s.
Obama's pick of Washington-hack Joe Biden was featured on the slashdot front page, but this, you have to dig in the Politics section to find it.
Do I sense media bias?
Most janitors are paid minimum wage or slightly above minimum wage, so lets just say $7/hr for all intents and purposes. Most janitors are not full-time employees, because then their employer would have to give them benefits, so lets just say they work 30 hours a week in a possible 40 hour work week.
$7*30= 210*52=10,920 *5 = $54,600.
Significantly cheaper.
Actually, he should complain to the local franchise authority. The FA has authority over billing disputes such as this, and the FCC will just direct him there.
Yes they do. I have two in my TiVo right now here in Louisiana. If Cox here in the boondocks has CableCARDs, there's no reason your franchise shouldn't have them.
And besides, they are legally mandated to offer CableCARD service; only small local providers are exempt from the FCC's Integration Ban.
I know what a UPS is. I'm not running a fine-tuned operation and do not mind getting up off of my skinny ass to reset the router when I have a brown out, which is once in a blue moon.
The only time I've ever had an issue with my AE base station is after a brown out - for some odd reason, it will not work after a brown out and does require a restart. Any other time, though, I have never had a problem with the AE base station... and mine's refurbished!
...against Obama. Googlebomb his name with Links to "Saddam Hussein" and "Islamic Fascism" on wikipedia. Sure, it may not be true and a load of crap, but boy, it would sure be fun.
Data plans are now $10 more than they are now, so $30/month, with a $39.99/month minimum voice plan... (all in one convenient 24 month contract!) I'm sure that more than makes up for Apple's decrease in price, since they get a cut of that in their profit sharing deal with AT&T. Not dissing Apple or the iPhone, as I was an early adopter of the original, and will probably be an early adopter of this one.
If you were to actually click on the "Mac OS X Users start here..." link, you would see that the latest version for OSX users is 1.9.3, which is several years old and has limited functionality. In fact, TiVoToGo is only supported when you purchase Roxio Toast.
I can see a court striking this down real quickly - it was obviously not the legislative intent for the word "degrade" to be used in this most technical sense. Italy, being a Civilian country, likely has on the books an article which states, "All words and phrases will be subject to their most common meaning and interpretation if such interpretation does not lead to absurd consequences."
I'm sorry, its just the future lawyer in me.
Yes, but you missed my point. I don't have an issue with people going to Apple to get their phone fixed due to a defect in workmanship for something like a broken screen, and if they refuse service, then that person ought to sue.
However, all of these morons that ended up with iBricks because they unlocked their phone (in violation of the phone's warranty & terms of service) or installed unauthorized 3rd party addons (also in violation of the warranty & terms of service) and then upgraded with plenty of prior warning (i.e. press release, notices in various media, big bold print saying the update will render your phone inoperable if you've done these things) won't have a chance in hell in court against Apple. It will be mighty easy for Apple to show you tampered with the phone if its seczone reads anything but "0" or "1".
I would go on about how, of course, there is an implied warranty, but it doesn't apply if you decide to run unauthorized programs on your phone, but I'm really freakin' tired.
Like I posted on the hackint0sh forums, the Act that everybody keeps citing saying that Apple can't deny (Magnuson-Moss Act) does not apply to the iPhone's warranty. It applies only to FULL warranties; the iPhone warranty is a LIMITED warranty.
Certainly if they did it maliciously, then there would be a tort action. But if you use your product in a way that is not intended, they don't have to cover it (read the paragraph in the warranty concerning failure to follow instructions). Its like if you put tiny rims on your new SUV and break an axle - yeah, you can do that and its a third party device, but the car company doesn't have to warranty the car if your stupid ass caused the damage because you made an unauthorized modification to a key component of the car.
Laws may vary by state to state, but I'm pretty sure this is a lost cause unless somebody can prove malicious intent on the part of Apple.
Not really. Courts have thrown out arbitration clauses before, simply because they're weighted too much in favor of one corporation with a lot of power, versus an individual. One case in particular comes to mind... Hooters of America v. Phillips.