Here ya go!
From an interview with Matthew Szulik:
8) Did The Consumer Stream Make A Profit? - by reallocate
Has Red Hat's shrinkwrapped consumer-level product stream ever made a profit? To your knowledge, has SUSE or anyone else over made a profit from consumer sales?
Szulik:
Profitable yes. Was a shrink wrapped version sold at retail an economic model to grow a company? No. discounts leave a small amount of available profit. I can not speak for SuSE economics as until recently they were private.
How is this more secure? Items can be lost, stolen, duplicated etc. I realize this is an attempt to circumvent complacency and human slackness, but replacing passwords with an item in the grand scheme of things merely introduces a new technology of equal (at best) value. Hey, it gives you good press though. What's more, this has all been tried before. It's great to see tht Gates is hot on the innovation trail! And in true form, via a third party!
I agree. I always thought Fedora was a bone thrown to those who had used RHL. They were actually making money on RHL which means they dropped it for focus, not profit. I think it's hurt them, no matter what they say. I think they are doing okay, don't get me wrong, but the community as a whole thinks less of them for it. I refuse to try Fedora for the reasons you stated. Red Hat doesn't want my business unless I buy enterprise versions which means unless I have a user base. Caldera got a bad rep for much of the same type behavior, back in the day. Hey, it works for them. Red Hat really has no interest in you and me until we code something, put it back into the community, and they incorperate it into their workstation distro.
How do you figure? It's not a foregone conclusion that the shell and various components have to be embedded in the kernel. Linux is actually proving that now. You're under the misguided impression that Linux must become Windows to be an OS. I, however, believe that Windows has only recently become an OS and still may have a way to do. UNIX was an OS long before Windows, so why should Windows be the technical standard? (And don't say "market share" because that just makes it a popular standnard).
I wonder how much of that licensing money ever made it to Novell? See as how SCO only go the rights to license UNIX and was supposed to be a caretaker of the licensing. I'm thinking....uh...none.:) That's a lot of money to bank with giving that Novell now has documentation showing that they own the UNIX copyrights after all.
This is an important point. M$ bundles and intertwines so much into the OS that you really are a slave to the system. You can't compare a vulneraiblity in say Apache or Samba or WuFTP to a vulnerability in SP2 for XP or even IE. I can't help but install IE in XP. I CAN, however, choose not to run Apache, Samba, Mozilla, or just about anything in Linux. These apps are not bundled the same way similar apps are in Windows. I wonder how many "studies" are skewed because they ignore this point?
You've obviously never been to Georgia. I live 18mi NE of Atlanta. I have:
World class physicians (Emory, CDC, Piedmont, Scottish Rite's)
Atlanta Symphony
Museums (Woodruff Arts Museum to name one)
Extremely varied communities
I work in the burbs to and my job is about half-way between me and downtown.
Just got the word today that we're installing a VoIP system for our new location. Seeing as this will not only server our user-base but our call center as well, it's a big deal. Coming from a completely Telco/PBX environment, we all scared and excited! Like a Slashdotter on a date! At least, that's how I envision it being....ahemm.
"A balanced report on global warming is not presenting whether or not it is occuring,but the degree and rapidity of it"
Not completely true. What about causes? Many scientists debate that humanity (America?) is the cause, but rather that it's likely a cyclical thing. Do journalists report this? Rarely. Many scientists let the negativism play out so that the "greenhouse gas effect" will hopefully become a foregone conclusion and those who disagree will be relegated to freak status. Luckily, with Global Warming, there are some pretty noteable scietists who think it's a natural occurance. Unfortunately, politicians, the big media, and many hungry for power aren't concerned with the facts.
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I'm not sure about the "flip the switch again." Maybe once but many end users take this approach to print jobs.
User: I can't print.
Tech: Okay, are you getting an error?
User: No.
Tech: Okay, let me check the queue and see if......okay, you have like 100 print jobs in there.
User: I know, I kept trying and trying but it wouldn't print so I called you.
Tech: Cool. Now 50 other people can't print either.
I disagree. Rather has gotten into trouble like this before. His documentary on Vietnam Vets back in the 80's was shown to be a complete fabrication. He got sucked in (sound familiar) into something he wanted to believe. As it turned out, many of the vets he interviewed never served overseas at all. He was duped by a bunch of nut-cases. The latest "Rathergate" is evidence of an on-going problem with Rather. He needs to go.
Why should they? M$ didn't "innovate" on their own. The bulk of their products, new products anyway, are from purchased and sometimes "borrowed" code (JVM?). Why should that have carte blanche and everyone else have to "innovate?"
One reason SuSE config files revert bat to previous settings is by design. There are some preservation files that will reset perms on config files that get saved. Look for permissions.x files. That really rattled me until I found out what they were. Again, that's a learning curve and while I might agree with the concept, I think implementations like this can often turn people off rather than on.
I would agree that this would be much more convenient. I think you have two camps on that subject: Those who think the flexibility is what makes Linux Linux and those who feel consistency would move the platform forward faster. SuSE was a learning curve for me, coming from RHat. They represent two totally different executions of the same basic thing. I think more consistency across distro's would definitely help Linux as an entity, but perhaps they feel it would negate many of the differences and render them unnecessary. Perhaps.
It may not be. One problem plaguing distro's is that they throw so much into the distro that QA is sacrificed. This is true for SuSE as well. I've been using SuSE for about a year now and see many of the same issue I saw with RHat. There are menuitems that don't work, configurations that won't take, and clutter. A slimmer desktop might be in order. I've said for years that a distro company would do well to have a group sit down and actually test each feature and app that they include on a distro but evidently few do. Maybe someone has with Novell Linux and this is the result. We can hope!
I'm not a fan of a db being my filesystem, but maybe I'm old-fashioned. I can see where M$ could benefit from it, though. Their file system is crap; and not so much the file system as how SMB plays with it. On the other hand, seeing as how NTFS and Oracle fubar each other, I wonder who this will play in WinFS.
Forget that, it's hard to take this "greenhouse gas" theory seriously when a single volcanoe can easily match what the U.S. or any other developed country can spew to date.
OH..I'm ready to be modded down for not towing the line...
Why is it so surprising that the U.S. would not choose a socialist-leaning candidate for president? America is a conservative nation. This is where people are missing the boat.
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Here ya go! From an interview with Matthew Szulik:
8) Did The Consumer Stream Make A Profit? - by reallocate
Has Red Hat's shrinkwrapped consumer-level product stream ever made a profit? To your knowledge, has SUSE or anyone else over made a profit from consumer sales?
Szulik:
Profitable yes. Was a shrink wrapped version sold at retail an economic model to grow a company? No. discounts leave a small amount of available profit. I can not speak for SuSE economics as until recently they were private.
100 years and men STILL think they will enhance penis size! You'd think we'd learn...oh wait....wrong tube. Ahemm
How is this more secure? Items can be lost, stolen, duplicated etc. I realize this is an attempt to circumvent complacency and human slackness, but replacing passwords with an item in the grand scheme of things merely introduces a new technology of equal (at best) value. Hey, it gives you good press though. What's more, this has all been tried before. It's great to see tht Gates is hot on the innovation trail! And in true form, via a third party!
I agree. I always thought Fedora was a bone thrown to those who had used RHL. They were actually making money on RHL which means they dropped it for focus, not profit. I think it's hurt them, no matter what they say. I think they are doing okay, don't get me wrong, but the community as a whole thinks less of them for it. I refuse to try Fedora for the reasons you stated. Red Hat doesn't want my business unless I buy enterprise versions which means unless I have a user base. Caldera got a bad rep for much of the same type behavior, back in the day. Hey, it works for them. Red Hat really has no interest in you and me until we code something, put it back into the community, and they incorperate it into their workstation distro.
How do you figure? It's not a foregone conclusion that the shell and various components have to be embedded in the kernel. Linux is actually proving that now. You're under the misguided impression that Linux must become Windows to be an OS. I, however, believe that Windows has only recently become an OS and still may have a way to do. UNIX was an OS long before Windows, so why should Windows be the technical standard? (And don't say "market share" because that just makes it a popular standnard).
I wonder how much of that licensing money ever made it to Novell? See as how SCO only go the rights to license UNIX and was supposed to be a caretaker of the licensing. I'm thinking....uh...none. :) That's a lot of money to bank with giving that Novell now has documentation showing that they own the UNIX copyrights after all.
This is an important point. M$ bundles and intertwines so much into the OS that you really are a slave to the system. You can't compare a vulneraiblity in say Apache or Samba or WuFTP to a vulnerability in SP2 for XP or even IE. I can't help but install IE in XP. I CAN, however, choose not to run Apache, Samba, Mozilla, or just about anything in Linux. These apps are not bundled the same way similar apps are in Windows. I wonder how many "studies" are skewed because they ignore this point?
You've obviously never been to Georgia. I live 18mi NE of Atlanta. I have:
World class physicians (Emory, CDC, Piedmont, Scottish Rite's)
Atlanta Symphony
Museums (Woodruff Arts Museum to name one)
Extremely varied communities
I work in the burbs to and my job is about half-way between me and downtown.
Why does is say Microsoft-IIS/5.0 next to the servers? I wonder if they are using FP Extensions?
Uh...serve. But I understand. :)
Just got the word today that we're installing a VoIP system for our new location. Seeing as this will not only server our user-base but our call center as well, it's a big deal. Coming from a completely Telco/PBX environment, we all scared and excited! Like a Slashdotter on a date! At least, that's how I envision it being....ahemm.
"A balanced report on global warming is not presenting whether or not it is occuring,but the degree and rapidity of it"
Not completely true. What about causes? Many scientists debate that humanity (America?) is the cause, but rather that it's likely a cyclical thing. Do journalists report this? Rarely. Many scientists let the negativism play out so that the "greenhouse gas effect" will hopefully become a foregone conclusion and those who disagree will be relegated to freak status. Luckily, with Global Warming, there are some pretty noteable scietists who think it's a natural occurance. Unfortunately, politicians, the big media, and many hungry for power aren't concerned with the facts.
I'm not sure about the "flip the switch again." Maybe once but many end users take this approach to print jobs. ...okay, you have like 100 print jobs in there.
User: I can't print.
Tech: Okay, are you getting an error?
User: No.
Tech: Okay, let me check the queue and see if...
User: I know, I kept trying and trying but it wouldn't print so I called you.
Tech: Cool. Now 50 other people can't print either.
Since walking into our new Fry's, I'm finding Best Buy less appealing. And Fry's seems very geek-friendly!
I disagree. Rather has gotten into trouble like this before. His documentary on Vietnam Vets back in the 80's was shown to be a complete fabrication. He got sucked in (sound familiar) into something he wanted to believe. As it turned out, many of the vets he interviewed never served overseas at all. He was duped by a bunch of nut-cases. The latest "Rathergate" is evidence of an on-going problem with Rather. He needs to go.
Because most blogs find little journalism in CBS.
I agree. I just view Microsoft as evil, inherently. I only they had a hundred more such payouts then they could really feel it.
Why should they? M$ didn't "innovate" on their own. The bulk of their products, new products anyway, are from purchased and sometimes "borrowed" code (JVM?). Why should that have carte blanche and everyone else have to "innovate?"
One reason SuSE config files revert bat to previous settings is by design. There are some preservation files that will reset perms on config files that get saved. Look for permissions.x files. That really rattled me until I found out what they were. Again, that's a learning curve and while I might agree with the concept, I think implementations like this can often turn people off rather than on.
I would agree that this would be much more convenient. I think you have two camps on that subject: Those who think the flexibility is what makes Linux Linux and those who feel consistency would move the platform forward faster. SuSE was a learning curve for me, coming from RHat. They represent two totally different executions of the same basic thing. I think more consistency across distro's would definitely help Linux as an entity, but perhaps they feel it would negate many of the differences and render them unnecessary. Perhaps.
It may not be. One problem plaguing distro's is that they throw so much into the distro that QA is sacrificed. This is true for SuSE as well. I've been using SuSE for about a year now and see many of the same issue I saw with RHat. There are menuitems that don't work, configurations that won't take, and clutter. A slimmer desktop might be in order. I've said for years that a distro company would do well to have a group sit down and actually test each feature and app that they include on a distro but evidently few do. Maybe someone has with Novell Linux and this is the result. We can hope!
I'm not a fan of a db being my filesystem, but maybe I'm old-fashioned. I can see where M$ could benefit from it, though. Their file system is crap; and not so much the file system as how SMB plays with it. On the other hand, seeing as how NTFS and Oracle fubar each other, I wonder who this will play in WinFS.
Forget that, it's hard to take this "greenhouse gas" theory seriously when a single volcanoe can easily match what the U.S. or any other developed country can spew to date.
OH..I'm ready to be modded down for not towing the line...
Why is it so surprising that the U.S. would not choose a socialist-leaning candidate for president? America is a conservative nation. This is where people are missing the boat.