yes, i got chrome to install at home. It is definitely the school filter.
Therefore, this might be something google wants to consider. if they are planning on deploying their software this way, they should consider the host site that the setup program uses. Or at least put a meaningful error message that says that the site can't be contacted.
We are trying to install it at our school, but it seems like the setup file keeps crashing. I'm betting that setup is trying to pull from a site that is blocked by our school's A-site.
Is it possible to get a full package download yet, or do you have to use their setup file?
Of course, we these just might be early problems that will get worked out.
If not, how can you expect educational institutions to push this browser out in our labs?
Sure it's good comparison-- except for the fact that people will take action and do something about DRM. What if all of the people who were concerned about DRM (uses legitimate or otherwise) actually organized about something more serious that is going on in the world? War, global warming, hunger, etc. It would be nice to see such enthusiam for something more important. DRM is bad for our society, the white, middle class, tech literate portion of society, I guess.
I wonder if they are going to pull out the fire hoses at the Apple store.
I teach a high school programming class, and I start them out using Python. Sure, there are other similar programming languages like Perl and Ruby that work in similar ways. However, I feel that in my experience, no other programming language translates quite as well to the English language.
When learning a new language, people generally link the new language back to the first "real" programming language that they learn. I don't mean BASIC or Pascal, I mean Java or C++. You try to find the commands that do the same thing as "cout" or "echo". When you code in Python, which was designed to be very close to the English language, when you read your code aloud, you end up almost reading a generic algorithm, that when applied to other programming languages, actually makes sense. You are giving students a vocabulary that they can use to do that translation step when they learn their second, third, etc. languages that won't mess them up too badly.
By the way, after a semester of Python, I teach them Visual Basic.NET, which they love for about two days until they realize that the code underneath the fancy GUI elements can't be easily translated to common sense English. However, they can figure out how to do the basic programming structures in the language.
I don't think anyone directly said this, but if they make a product that is difficult to use, then they can make extra money selling the books and training to people. See Adobe Training . Sure, the software is expensive, but if you just buy a single copy, you don't have to pay any more money until the next version comes out. By the way, that is often. And you very rarely get the update for free unless you buy one of those licenses that affords that.
The way that they really get you is when you pay for your staff to learn this software though professional Adobe training, which will also require Adobe books.
Of course, there are tons of other book makers out there. Take a look at any bookstore-- the Photoshop section is overwhelming. By making a difficult, yet powerful program that everyone wants to use, they have created a whole new market.
You want frustrating? Try using 3D-Studio Max without any training or extra books. Good luck with that one! This trend is lousy, and it really hurts educators who have to teach this stuff to students without these textbooks. Most of the time, I just request a free desk copy, and use that to teach the essentials to my students. (By the way, that is one of the few sweet perks to teaching!)
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Ever since having kids, it has been laughable for me to ever consider opening any of the Neal Stephenson Baroque cycle books. Of course, his other books have become required reading in Geek 101, like Snow Crash and Cryptonomicron.
I just picked up the abridged version of Quicksilver on CD at my local library. And when I say abridged, I mean 20-CD / 24 hours.
Mercifully, they edited out a bunch of the extra stuff, and what is left is actually pretty decent.
Usually I am a purist when it comes to abridged texts- I won't read them. But in this case, I really needed a helping hand.
To those about to be parents, I highly recommend getting any reading you want to do out of the way before you have kids!
This is probably paranoid, but I think that the gas station likes it when you stand there just pumping your gas. That way, you can focus on their advertising that they have all over the pumping area. They seem to go out of their way to capture your attention for the 5 minutes you are standing there.
If you are just standing there pumping, then you will probably look at their ads. But if you have something else to do, like making a call, then you might not be as influenced by their advertisements. You might not suddenly feel the impulse to eat 2 disgusting hotdogs for $.99.
Unless, of course, you were already feeling that impulse!
I wasted three years of my life at Lusuck, where I watched employees who gave the best years of their life to that company get the boot to the street. I watched my entire set of peers get systematically fired for completely bogus reasons. I watched those who were still lucky enough to keep a job secretly sabatoge one another, stealing each others work, bad mouthing everyone to get ahead. I watched management continuously increase their salaries while all of this took place.
The s.d. area I worked in was the most dehumanizing, torturous environment you could ever hope to work in. Everyone who worked there will probably need some sort of therapy, pink-slipped or not.
The old Bell Labs is nothing but a shadow of its former great self. The progressive, research driven department is the last thing about Lucent that makes it unique at all.
This company is fascinating only in the sense of "how low can they possibly go?" Its like watching a car crash repeatedly.
Haiku should also contain a "kigo", which is a reference to something in nature. Most traditional haiku have some sort of nod to trees or water or something like that.
If you have read Cryptonomicron by Neal Stephenson, you'll notice that all of the haiku included contain the kigo as well.
Liking to program with Windows is like liking the Yankees, or rooting for the Lakers.
People love to jump on the MS bandwagon because they are more prevalent in the media.
I teach an IT high school class, and I feel torn because the curriculum says to teach VB and VC++. However, I feel that teaching Python and Java results in a better understanding of how things work.
But when I have an advisory committee telling me that everyone uses Windows, and that Windows is the way to go, I get frustrated. I feel that they are just buying into the big market MS hype.
Back to the sports analogy, I feel like I'm the manager of a small-market team, full of scrappy, hard working UNIX haxors. But when these students get to the big leagues, I hope they find UNIX jobs, not the MS jobs. Actually, I just hope they find jobs.
No one has mentioned the insurance companies yet. Will the automaker be responsible if the crash detection fails? Sounds like a lot of liability to me even if they make the system intelligent enough.
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A Confederacy of Dunces, by John Kennedy Toole
This is one of the great American novels that everyone should read during these times of unemployment and potential unemployment. Ignatius Riley is a true icon of the working man. His ennui and slothful stupor as a worker is completely hysterical. This book will put anyone in a better mood.
"....but I'm afraid it might get significantly harder for humble college students such as myself to sample an artist's music before going out and buying a disc"
Yeesh. That doesn't really roll off your tongue quite as well as, "Holy shit I'm going to have to start paying for CDs again!"
The point is that this type of BS in posts gets annoying after awhile. Adding a disclaimer at the end of the post to make it sound like there really is a legit reason for having access to high-speed downloads is counterproductive.
Downloading copyrighted material for a looksee is still illegal. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to control what you download. But this sort of comment really takes away from the issue at hand. Its like a little nudge, or a wink, that says, "Hey buddy, I like to download illegally. 'Bout you?"
I often feel that too much Sci-Fi and fantasy sort of leads to a rut in creativity. I get tired of these types of authors coming up with variations of the same basic themes, and just applying new names to different ideas.
I like to mix up my reading lists with lots of "classics" that you would find on high school or college reading lists, and books that I had to read a long time ago. I think there are themes in these books that really get you back to the basics, that most Sci-Fi/Fantasy books just rip off. Books that inspire creativity don't necessarily define a whole new language that you need to learn when you read them.
For example, I just finished reading Treasure Island by Stevenson (not neal stephenson;) ) and it really got me thinking about the sense of exploration and excitement I had when I was younger. It sort of made me feel better about the shitty telcom job I have now. Really books used to be about escape, and I really felt refreshed when I finished. I went back to my crappy job with a better perspective. Plus, it expanded my pirate talk.
I get a great sense of excitement when I read one of the really good futuristic books that gibson and stephenson put out, but I can't discount the fact that a lot of the stuff that gets written these days is just recycled from the old stuff.
Right now as we read these posts, people are fucking dying. I mean, they are fucking dead. Can we stop posting stupid witty posts for 2 seconds? Just stop and think. Right now, some one else is dead.
Stop with the goddamn pro-war rhetoric for just a brief moment, and really stop and think about what it means to be alive. Wake up from your psuedo-intellectual rantings, and really think about what it means to be alive.
Why in the world would they enter the arcade market 2-3 decades late? The arcade market has been lousy and everyone knows it.
The argument that they will be trying to generate interest for the home versions of these arcade games just doesn't hold water. If you are trying to generate interest in your product, you should probably try to reach as many people as possible for as little money as possible. The number of times that a person visits an arcade in a month has got to be low. Why take such a financial risk to generate hype for such a small audience?
Watch MS write it off on their taxes like they did with XBOX development. "Yeah, we're new to the biz. We had no idea Motocross Mania: ARCADE was going to bomb." This just sounds like planned failure from the get go.
I just can't take it anymore!
After religiously following lame-o Americanized Dragonball Z. and Gundam Wing for months and months, there have recently been a ton of new anime series out on the networks for me to get hooked on.
Lain, Lupin, Yuyu -- I'm trying to watch them all, and my head is spinning.
Now more GIANT robots too? It's just too much!
(picture me with anime style sweatmark on my forehead)
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yes, i got chrome to install at home. It is definitely the school filter. Therefore, this might be something google wants to consider. if they are planning on deploying their software this way, they should consider the host site that the setup program uses. Or at least put a meaningful error message that says that the site can't be contacted.
no, i just checked. I'll try downloading when I get home to see if it is a computer configuration problem. i'll post later if anyone wants to see.
We are trying to install it at our school, but it seems like the setup file keeps crashing. I'm betting that setup is trying to pull from a site that is blocked by our school's A-site. Is it possible to get a full package download yet, or do you have to use their setup file? Of course, we these just might be early problems that will get worked out. If not, how can you expect educational institutions to push this browser out in our labs?
Sure it's good comparison-- except for the fact that people will take action and do something about DRM. What if all of the people who were concerned about DRM (uses legitimate or otherwise) actually organized about something more serious that is going on in the world? War, global warming, hunger, etc. It would be nice to see such enthusiam for something more important. DRM is bad for our society, the white, middle class, tech literate portion of society, I guess. I wonder if they are going to pull out the fire hoses at the Apple store.
http://www.bestbuysux.org/
When learning a new language, people generally link the new language back to the first "real" programming language that they learn. I don't mean BASIC or Pascal, I mean Java or C++. You try to find the commands that do the same thing as "cout" or "echo". When you code in Python, which was designed to be very close to the English language, when you read your code aloud, you end up almost reading a generic algorithm, that when applied to other programming languages, actually makes sense. You are giving students a vocabulary that they can use to do that translation step when they learn their second, third, etc. languages that won't mess them up too badly.
By the way, after a semester of Python, I teach them Visual Basic.NET, which they love for about two days until they realize that the code underneath the fancy GUI elements can't be easily translated to common sense English. However, they can figure out how to do the basic programming structures in the language.
The way that they really get you is when you pay for your staff to learn this software though professional Adobe training, which will also require Adobe books.
Of course, there are tons of other book makers out there. Take a look at any bookstore-- the Photoshop section is overwhelming. By making a difficult, yet powerful program that everyone wants to use, they have created a whole new market.
You want frustrating? Try using 3D-Studio Max without any training or extra books. Good luck with that one! This trend is lousy, and it really hurts educators who have to teach this stuff to students without these textbooks. Most of the time, I just request a free desk copy, and use that to teach the essentials to my students. (By the way, that is one of the few sweet perks to teaching!) know_op Move Sig
But of course, it's cool when prison guards trade pictures of terrorists in handcuffs giving each other blowjobs, right?
I can't wait for a beowulf cluster of these!
Sweet, my first ./ meme!
I just picked up the abridged version of Quicksilver on CD at my local library. And when I say abridged, I mean 20-CD / 24 hours.
Mercifully, they edited out a bunch of the extra stuff, and what is left is actually pretty decent. Usually I am a purist when it comes to abridged texts- I won't read them. But in this case, I really needed a helping hand.
To those about to be parents, I highly recommend getting any reading you want to do out of the way before you have kids!
to catch Pee-Wee Herman?
If you are just standing there pumping, then you will probably look at their ads. But if you have something else to do, like making a call, then you might not be as influenced by their advertisements. You might not suddenly feel the impulse to eat 2 disgusting hotdogs for $.99.
Unless, of course, you were already feeling that impulse!
The s.d. area I worked in was the most dehumanizing, torturous environment you could ever hope to work in. Everyone who worked there will probably need some sort of therapy, pink-slipped or not.
The old Bell Labs is nothing but a shadow of its former great self. The progressive, research driven department is the last thing about Lucent that makes it unique at all.
This company is fascinating only in the sense of "how low can they possibly go?" Its like watching a car crash repeatedly.
Mod my jaded ass down!
So although this tool is pretty freaking sweet, you might want to use it in moderation if you feel pretty strongly about this issue.
If you have read Cryptonomicron by Neal Stephenson, you'll notice that all of the haiku included contain the kigo as well.
Liking to program with Windows is like liking the Yankees, or rooting for the Lakers. People love to jump on the MS bandwagon because they are more prevalent in the media. I teach an IT high school class, and I feel torn because the curriculum says to teach VB and VC++. However, I feel that teaching Python and Java results in a better understanding of how things work. But when I have an advisory committee telling me that everyone uses Windows, and that Windows is the way to go, I get frustrated. I feel that they are just buying into the big market MS hype. Back to the sports analogy, I feel like I'm the manager of a small-market team, full of scrappy, hard working UNIX haxors. But when these students get to the big leagues, I hope they find UNIX jobs, not the MS jobs. Actually, I just hope they find jobs.
No one has mentioned the insurance companies yet. Will the automaker be responsible if the crash detection fails? Sounds like a lot of liability to me even if they make the system intelligent enough.
This is one of the great American novels that everyone should read during these times of unemployment and potential unemployment. Ignatius Riley is a true icon of the working man. His ennui and slothful stupor as a worker is completely hysterical. This book will put anyone in a better mood.
Yeesh. That doesn't really roll off your tongue quite as well as, "Holy shit I'm going to have to start paying for CDs again!"
The point is that this type of BS in posts gets annoying after awhile. Adding a disclaimer at the end of the post to make it sound like there really is a legit reason for having access to high-speed downloads is counterproductive.
Downloading copyrighted material for a looksee is still illegal. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to control what you download. But this sort of comment really takes away from the issue at hand. Its like a little nudge, or a wink, that says, "Hey buddy, I like to download illegally. 'Bout you?"
I like to mix up my reading lists with lots of "classics" that you would find on high school or college reading lists, and books that I had to read a long time ago. I think there are themes in these books that really get you back to the basics, that most Sci-Fi/Fantasy books just rip off. Books that inspire creativity don't necessarily define a whole new language that you need to learn when you read them.
For example, I just finished reading Treasure Island by Stevenson (not neal stephenson ;) ) and it really got me thinking about the sense of exploration and excitement I had when I was younger. It sort of made me feel better about the shitty telcom job I have now. Really books used to be about escape, and I really felt refreshed when I finished. I went back to my crappy job with a better perspective. Plus, it expanded my pirate talk.
I get a great sense of excitement when I read one of the really good futuristic books that gibson and stephenson put out, but I can't discount the fact that a lot of the stuff that gets written these days is just recycled from the old stuff.
Right now as we read these posts, people are fucking dying. I mean, they are fucking dead. Can we stop posting stupid witty posts for 2 seconds? Just stop and think. Right now, some one else is dead. Stop with the goddamn pro-war rhetoric for just a brief moment, and really stop and think about what it means to be alive. Wake up from your psuedo-intellectual rantings, and really think about what it means to be alive.
The argument that they will be trying to generate interest for the home versions of these arcade games just doesn't hold water. If you are trying to generate interest in your product, you should probably try to reach as many people as possible for as little money as possible. The number of times that a person visits an arcade in a month has got to be low. Why take such a financial risk to generate hype for such a small audience?
Watch MS write it off on their taxes like they did with XBOX development. "Yeah, we're new to the biz. We had no idea Motocross Mania: ARCADE was going to bomb." This just sounds like planned failure from the get go.
After religiously following lame-o Americanized Dragonball Z. and Gundam Wing for months and months, there have recently been a ton of new anime series out on the networks for me to get hooked on.
Lain, Lupin, Yuyu -- I'm trying to watch them all, and my head is spinning.
Now more GIANT robots too? It's just too much!
(picture me with anime style sweatmark on my forehead)