Yes, I have read it. The entire thing. Several times.
Section (2) (b):
"You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License."
I noted your semantic pedantry regarding the terms "distribute" and "sell." Show me where the law makes such a distinction. If it did, you can bet that companies like Microsoft would be lobbying hard to change it. If a GPL violator won a case on that argument, it would invalidate the license terms that prevent OEMs and retailers from selling PCs with hacked versions of Windows... among other things! If the rule of first sale governed software distribution, every commercial software producer would be up in arms. It would do more damage to their "intellectual property" than the GPL ever could.
You forgot the part where Company X acquires the GPL software in the first place. They did NOT buy it in the sense that one buys a book. They licensed it. In doing so, they bound themselves to all the terms and conditions of the license.
I strongly doubt that companies like Microsoft would look kindly on the Rule of First Sale being applied to its software licenses. For that matter, neither would Company X.
Shakespeare wrote for people's entertainment. Figuring out his witty turns of phrase was part of the fun. Generations of English teachers have taken Shakespeare way too seriously. People never actually talked that way!
I am neither a sociologist nor a statistician, but I don't find Dorfman's argument very convincing. It's nothing but a personal attack against Herrnstein's credibility. But to play devil's advocate, let's assume Dorfman has a point and Herrnstein had a political agenda in writing the book. Even if Herrnstein's theories and analyses are entirely unsound (which I personally doubt), there's still the fact that the disparities he tried to explain do exist. Or to take it a step further, say he made up all his statistics and there are no disparities (again, something my personal experience leads me to very strongly doubt.) Thanks to the firestorm of controversy surrounding the book, it will be many years before any respected researcher will dare to re-examine Herrnstein's statistics or collect any of their own. Meanwhile, policy makers may be neglecting very real social problems.
My point: talking heads shouldn't get involved in science.
This is the kind of science that can easily get hurt by controversy. The press release doesn't say, but what if these neurological differences translate to significant behavioral differences? The implications for humanity would be for nothing so trite as "the future of learning." How about the disparities between social classes and ethnic groups? Do impoverished mothers get enough choline? Are there ethnic diets that include more or less choline, and is it reflected in their average intellectual abilities? (And how to quantify that is a whole other subject for debate!) These are important questions that may go unanswered if the wrong kinds of people get a chance to put their spin on this. Heaven forbid we find out there's a biological reason why the underpriveleged can't seem to get ahead, even if it's brought on by social conditions rather than something intrinsic. Just watch... if the reasearchers get too close to implying something like that, their funding will get cut and the whole thing will be swept under the rug. Remember how the media roasted Herrnstein and Murray?
Very well put. I was just thinking about this today... feeling a bit depressed that the upcoming Presidential election is just going to be another chance to choose the lesser evil. What happened to our leaders? Oh, I remember... they bowed out and threw in for the party line. Some leaders.
I still hold out hope that the citizens of some big state like California will lay the smack down on the Federal government and threaten to secede if things don't change. I'd like to see my own state do it, but we don't have the clout. "Fuck with Indiana and we'll... we'll... stop selling you corn!" Oooh, scary.
Our disagreement is on the role of the government. You seem to see corrupt government as the source of the problem; I see them merely as the facilitators. Who corrupted the government? In America, at least, the bourgeois elite are responsible.
Well, responsible is definitely not the right word. The bourgeoisie are the guilty party, but We The People are responsible for having let them get away with it...
Telling corporations they must hire American workers?
Yes, exactly.
that poor laborer will no have no job at all
Of course he would. If domestic companied were forced to hire him, one of two things would happen: either the economy of his community would grow as a result of the goods and services he produces, thereby increasing his meager wages; or the economy would totally collapse, leading to revolution and looting of the hoards of the wealthy elite. Either path results in a better life for the worker.
But low wages are just a symptom of the real problem: lack of education and infrastructure.
Agreed. And lack of education and infrastructure are the direct result of unregulated free trade -- greedy businessmen lining their pockets instead of turning wealth back into the community.
That may be true, but it's still wrong. It is morally wrong to pay workers in another country ANY amount of money and then take the profits and products they produce elsewhere. Free trade agreements that screw domestic workers out of their jobs aren't evil for that reason alone -- they're evil because they steal from the economy of other countries. Products and profits belong in a worker's community, not in another country!
There are certain restrictions on publishing photographs of people that do not apply when the person or events depicted are newsworthy. IANA journalist, so I don't know exactly what the legal definition of "newsworthy" is (and it's probably different where you live, anyhow). The point is, if there aren't similar exceptions to copyright law for newsworthy or historically significant images, then we have bigger things to worry about than who Kerry might have bumped into at a rally thirty years ago. The situation reminds me of some Rage lyrics: "Who controls the past now, controls the future..."
The U.S. Government has been rounding up guns for years, and the result was the DMCA and everything else. Where they haven't succeeded in actually taking our guns, they've succeeded in making anyone who owns one feel isolated and powerless.
Australia starts outlawing guns, people give them up without a fight, and wham... a couple years later you have a puppet government. Coincidence? I think not!
Upgrades are half price -- $174.50 for ES, which isn't that bad if you need the support and RHN.
It's a lot worse than the $59.99 or whatever I was paying before! More power to RedHat if they judged their market correctly, but I suspect that only a few big corporations will find their support and services justifiable at this price. Most organizations would do better to hire a couple skilled sysadmins and set up a local apt repository. They're also going to lose their grassroots support. Watch for their numbers to drop again right after they stop supporting RH9. Count my four machines in the Debian camp!
No. Contrary to what many believe (or would like to believe, in the case of our Congresscritters), the Federal Reserve is not part of the government. It's just a regular bank that happens to be where the government keeps its money.
One might argue that "holding any office" refers to elected or appointed officials.
Interestingly, there was a proposed amendment that would have automatically stripped the citizenship of any American who accepted such a title. Some conspiracy theorists claim that the amendment was, in fact, ratified in 1819; however, that notion has been pretty thoroughly debunked.
I have no doubt that they do. I was once visited by FBI agents bearing copies of an email I sent my father. This was a couple months before they testified before Congress that "Carnivore" only monitors known or suspected criminals. However, I have never been convicted of any crime or been involved with any criminal organization. The fact is, they're watching everyone.
And sure, they're probably monitoring everything I do online now. My FBI file is probably three feet thick. That's fine. I'm only one person. My point is that for every "terrorist" they catch, they create two more. If you want to see the United States turn into the West Bank, just keep tightening the noose. People like you will be first against the wall when the revolution comes.
Being from a white, middle-class American family won't stop me from becoming a terrorist if they take any more of my rights away. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
This argument will hold water when there are non-profit universities that anyone can attend for free. As it is, the education industry conspires to extort as much money as possible from students. It's poetic justice when students "steal" and "abuse" "school facilities" in this manner.
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Section (2) (b): "You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License."
I noted your semantic pedantry regarding the terms "distribute" and "sell." Show me where the law makes such a distinction. If it did, you can bet that companies like Microsoft would be lobbying hard to change it. If a GPL violator won a case on that argument, it would invalidate the license terms that prevent OEMs and retailers from selling PCs with hacked versions of Windows... among other things! If the rule of first sale governed software distribution, every commercial software producer would be up in arms. It would do more damage to their "intellectual property" than the GPL ever could.
You forgot the part where Company X acquires the GPL software in the first place. They did NOT buy it in the sense that one buys a book. They licensed it. In doing so, they bound themselves to all the terms and conditions of the license. I strongly doubt that companies like Microsoft would look kindly on the Rule of First Sale being applied to its software licenses. For that matter, neither would Company X.
Shakespeare wrote for people's entertainment. Figuring out his witty turns of phrase was part of the fun. Generations of English teachers have taken Shakespeare way too seriously. People never actually talked that way!
My point: talking heads shouldn't get involved in science.
This is the kind of science that can easily get hurt by controversy. The press release doesn't say, but what if these neurological differences translate to significant behavioral differences? The implications for humanity would be for nothing so trite as "the future of learning." How about the disparities between social classes and ethnic groups? Do impoverished mothers get enough choline? Are there ethnic diets that include more or less choline, and is it reflected in their average intellectual abilities? (And how to quantify that is a whole other subject for debate!) These are important questions that may go unanswered if the wrong kinds of people get a chance to put their spin on this. Heaven forbid we find out there's a biological reason why the underpriveleged can't seem to get ahead, even if it's brought on by social conditions rather than something intrinsic. Just watch... if the reasearchers get too close to implying something like that, their funding will get cut and the whole thing will be swept under the rug. Remember how the media roasted Herrnstein and Murray?
Not in Tennessee! When they say 45 MPH, they *mean* 45 MPH, even in my BMW. I think they're trying to kill tourists.
Very well put. I was just thinking about this today... feeling a bit depressed that the upcoming Presidential election is just going to be another chance to choose the lesser evil. What happened to our leaders? Oh, I remember... they bowed out and threw in for the party line. Some leaders.
I still hold out hope that the citizens of some big state like California will lay the smack down on the Federal government and threaten to secede if things don't change. I'd like to see my own state do it, but we don't have the clout. "Fuck with Indiana and we'll... we'll... stop selling you corn!" Oooh, scary.
Well, responsible is definitely not the right word. The bourgeoisie are the guilty party, but We The People are responsible for having let them get away with it...
Yes, exactly.
that poor laborer will no have no job at all
Of course he would. If domestic companied were forced to hire him, one of two things would happen: either the economy of his community would grow as a result of the goods and services he produces, thereby increasing his meager wages; or the economy would totally collapse, leading to revolution and looting of the hoards of the wealthy elite. Either path results in a better life for the worker.
But low wages are just a symptom of the real problem: lack of education and infrastructure.
Agreed. And lack of education and infrastructure are the direct result of unregulated free trade -- greedy businessmen lining their pockets instead of turning wealth back into the community.
That may be true, but it's still wrong. It is morally wrong to pay workers in another country ANY amount of money and then take the profits and products they produce elsewhere. Free trade agreements that screw domestic workers out of their jobs aren't evil for that reason alone -- they're evil because they steal from the economy of other countries. Products and profits belong in a worker's community, not in another country!
There are certain restrictions on publishing photographs of people that do not apply when the person or events depicted are newsworthy. IANA journalist, so I don't know exactly what the legal definition of "newsworthy" is (and it's probably different where you live, anyhow). The point is, if there aren't similar exceptions to copyright law for newsworthy or historically significant images, then we have bigger things to worry about than who Kerry might have bumped into at a rally thirty years ago. The situation reminds me of some Rage lyrics: "Who controls the past now, controls the future..."
I guess you didn't read The Big Golden Book Of Space when you were a kid.
Huh... learn sumfin new ev'ry day on Slashdot.
The U.S. Government has been rounding up guns for years, and the result was the DMCA and everything else. Where they haven't succeeded in actually taking our guns, they've succeeded in making anyone who owns one feel isolated and powerless.
Australia starts outlawing guns, people give them up without a fight, and wham... a couple years later you have a puppet government. Coincidence? I think not!
This is what happens when you give up your guns.
The local used music swap-shop is going stronger than ever. The RIAA doesn't like it, but fuck them.
Freedom comes in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box. And that's all I have to say about that.
It's a lot worse than the $59.99 or whatever I was paying before! More power to RedHat if they judged their market correctly, but I suspect that only a few big corporations will find their support and services justifiable at this price. Most organizations would do better to hire a couple skilled sysadmins and set up a local apt repository. They're also going to lose their grassroots support. Watch for their numbers to drop again right after they stop supporting RH9. Count my four machines in the Debian camp!
No. Contrary to what many believe (or would like to believe, in the case of our Congresscritters), the Federal Reserve is not part of the government. It's just a regular bank that happens to be where the government keeps its money.
Interestingly, there was a proposed amendment that would have automatically stripped the citizenship of any American who accepted such a title. Some conspiracy theorists claim that the amendment was, in fact, ratified in 1819; however, that notion has been pretty thoroughly debunked.
I have no doubt that they do. I was once visited by FBI agents bearing copies of an email I sent my father. This was a couple months before they testified before Congress that "Carnivore" only monitors known or suspected criminals. However, I have never been convicted of any crime or been involved with any criminal organization. The fact is, they're watching everyone. And sure, they're probably monitoring everything I do online now. My FBI file is probably three feet thick. That's fine. I'm only one person. My point is that for every "terrorist" they catch, they create two more. If you want to see the United States turn into the West Bank, just keep tightening the noose. People like you will be first against the wall when the revolution comes.
Being from a white, middle-class American family won't stop me from becoming a terrorist if they take any more of my rights away. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Atlanta is a festering den of former slaveholders. I say we burn it again.
Cerveza Caguama is a brand of beer from El Salvador. I used to buy it at Publix in Atlanta, but I've never seen it anywhere else. :-(
This argument will hold water when there are non-profit universities that anyone can attend for free. As it is, the education industry conspires to extort as much money as possible from students. It's poetic justice when students "steal" and "abuse" "school facilities" in this manner.