What the hell difference would the type of server OS make? It's the software they're running that matters here. Your comment is like saying a blind guy would drive better in a Dodge Dakota than a Toyota Tacoma.
One day, you'll learn about these things called "companies" who have "data" on many "servers" and who need to perform "transactions" with "objects" scattered around everywhere. Have fun!
Well yes, I certainly agree - anyone who condones child abuse is a criminal. But anyone who says that what adults do in their own free time, harming no one and giving them (at least some) happiness, is wrong, then you're overstepping the boundaries of protecting the innocent.
For many years, for reasons of my own, I've given money to a women's rape crisis shelter. Obviously, there's no way I would ever condone sexual abuse of any kind; I've made a substantial, material committment against it. So don't think that just because I condone sexual activities that people do in private, activities that you and I might never do in a million years, I condone abusive behaviour. Certainly not.
You are labouring under a logical flaw: sodomy is always abusive. At least, that's what it seems like you believe, anyway; I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Guess what: the vast, vast majority of relationships of this nature are not abusive at all. No one is denying that forced sex (including that which involves sodomy) is a crime. That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about here. Your assertion that sodomy is morally wrong is what I'm denying, NOT the assertion that abusive sexual relationships are wrong. Do you see the difference?
If you are into sanctioning countries or people that condone abusive sexual relationships, then I'm with you. If you make the erroneous assumption that a consensual sexual act is worthy of sanction, because you assume it is necessarily abusive, then I am against you.
So, to rephrase: if a country happens to not criminalise sodomy, you would want the U.S. to not deal with that country economically. In other words, you would not have dealings with nearly every democracy on earth.
I hope you realise how silly that is. Happily, it will never come to pass, but it still makes me shake my head when I hear stuff like that coming out of people's mouths (OK, keyboards too).
Your morality is yours, and is entirely relative. It is not a fixed, universal thing, no matter how much you might think it is. The founding fathers of your country were very smart, and realised this fact; that's why they were sure to explicitly separate church and state, realising the damage that could be done when archaic moral systems were allowed to influence governmental function.
What? You mean you'd try to outlaw something two people do consensually, on their own time, with no harm to themselves or others? Why? And I cannot believe you'd be in favour of forcing your medieval ideas on other sovereign states...hey, have you considered extreme Islam? Sounds like your thing.
Hahaha! Wow, that's hilarious. First, before anyone responds to this guy, check his sig. At this point, the "kook alert" bell should be ringing.
Leftists don't hate individualism, you dummy. They just don't like selfishness - actions that are taken at the expense and harm of others.
Everyone, including lefty types, like the freedom cars bring, but for some, the associated costs are very high. It would be nice to alleviate some of those costs (pollution, congestion, poor urban design) by coming up with something better.
Europeans, in your mind, are no doubt hateful lefties with few redeeming qualities. I recommend you visit, oh, say, Amsterdam sometime. What you'll find are plenty of horrible, socialist, know-it-all, (etc. - all the other name-calling you resorted to) people using an excellent, freedom-enhancing transit system in the city centre, and driving all around in their cars outside of there. Central Amsterdam has great air quality; "bad traffic" is when there are five cars stopped at a light. No one seems to be on their way to the gulag - that would be the U.S., if you happen to be a pot-smoker - and it's safe to say people are pretty individualistic there. The tram and train system is safe, convenient, cheap, and very quick.
As for your absurd assessment of environmentalism - no ideology, not even yours, ever trumps science. Remember that.
Perfect Blue - yes, I had the great misfortune to sit through this. The silly violence was beyond gratuitous. Here's a question for you: could you imagine anime like this being made about a man? That is, an entertainer being made to degrade himself for the good of his career, in all sorts of titillating ways? Here's a hint: no. It would never happen. This stuff ranks right up there with exploitation flicks like "I Spit On Your Grave" - "oh, the main character is a woman! She kicks ass!" Right, after a half-hour rape scene.
The animation was better than average, for anime. If Dragonball Z is a 0, and Chuck Jones Warner Bros. is a 10, then Perfect Blue is a 4 or so.
Anime is just B movie cartoons. If it were live action, you'd laugh your ass off.
I've seen plenty of anime, sadly. Famous ones like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, and more - they were all just awful. The framerates are so low the animation is actually distractingly bad. The dialogue is hokey and cliched. And of course women get very poor treatment - you'd almost think most anime watchers are women-hating (fearing) geeks who sit at home alone, masturbating wildly to revenge/lust fantasies of cartoon women getting tormented.
Anime is low-framerate, melodramatic, misogynistic garbage. Every anime movie I've seen - and I've seen a few, thanks to my "friends" - falls into this category. The animation of anything that's supposed to be moving quickly is laughably bad, the dialogue is just dumb and juvenile, and there is always - ALWAYS - a shot of a tied-up chick being either terrorised or mutilated, usually with a shot up her skirt thrown in. How can anyone be addicted to this stuff?
As a very offtopic response, check out ECS for cheap, quality (though loud) laptops. I just bought one: 2.4GHz P4, 512 MB, 40 GB drive, DVD-CDRW, 4 USB 2.0 ports, 15" screen, Radeon 9000, etc. for just over a grand US. No OS included. The model I got was the ECS Green 732.
Things must be picking up. I get about 3 calls a week from headhunters, whereas even two months ago I was getting none. Those guys (and women) sure are persistent. This one woman, especially; she has this incredibly loud, brassy voice. I wonder how these people survived when things were at their worst?
When I was a kid, I would have KILLED for something like this. We actually did end up building vehicles as we got older - using salvaged lawnmower engines, generally. To this day, my dad bugs me about the disassembled engine in his garage, which I left there 15 years ago.
The big problem was, none of us had access to a welder. The fact that we couldn't actually weld would have proven no obstacle. Eventually, we took to building boats instead, and ended up in a series of harrowing pellet gun wars with the other gang of boat-building kids.
I think he specifically meant beliefs which do interfere with others' lives - directly or indirectly.
Your private, onanistic ritual harms no one (not even you, since you presumably get some emotional happiness from it). But other beliefs can and do, and they do not deserve our sanction just because they exist, and it's "correct" to respect them.
Anecdotal example: a friend insisted on seeking a cure for her severe throat infection via an "alternative" medical cure - I don't remember if it was Chinese medicine or homeopathy or whatever. It was covered by our national medical plan, which, in the minds of many, gives it some sort of validity. Two months later, she was in the hospital, weak, thin, barely able to breathe through her horribly swollen throat, and the Western medicine she derided and mocked pumped her full of antibiotics and cured her in a week.
Why should any medical plan provide coverage for stuff that is obvious quackery? Because lots of people believe it, and we sadly respect those beliefs by providing for it (after a lot of lobbying on their part, it must be said).
What about religions that oppress women? For YEARS after the Taliban came to power, Western women's groups were pushing for governments to do something - even to invade and help the women of Afghanistan. The common excuse was to respect their "beliefs". What horrible bullshit.
In short, there are a lot of beliefs that do not deserve any respect whatsoever, and, by any objective measure, are harmful to any society that embraces them.
No, you're still not getting it - the layers on top of your cat are known to be younger than the cat. Now, if the layer was formed by some known event - say, ash from Krakatoa - then we know the cat is older than that, but younger than the previous event. If there is biological material embedded in the sediment, then that is dateable. And so forth. PLEASE read an introductory text on sediment dating; very interesting stuff. And, to counter your arguements about what "evolutionists" (scientists) ignore, keep in mind that dating is a scientific process that uses techniques drawn from physics, biology and chemistry - "evolutionists", then, are scientists trained in these disciplines.
Finally, we have excellent ideas about sediment deposition - there is an entire science dedicated to dirt and its formation. Just because you don't understand it, or it doesn't make sense to you/your church/your belief system, doesn't mean it's not a well-understood process. Please do some reading.
Yes, that's what I meant when I said strata dating all by itself is relative - to assign an absolute date, you need something on the order of what you're discussing embedded in the strata.
OK, you seem to be a little confused. What gets dated are the layers of deposition ON TOP of your cat, not the dirt under it. Geological deposition happens in layers of strata; go to the seaside and look at an eroded-out bank. You can see layers of clay, ash, sand, perhaps midden from some ancient group, and so forth.
Agreed, dating by strata is a bit uncertain at times - in the absence of any other evidence, all you can really say is "this is older than that, because this is underneath that." But the presence of dateable bits in the strata itself, or of well-known events (a layer of ash may correspond to some well-known volcanic eruption, for example) allows scientists to more accurately assign an absolute date range to the item at hand (your cat).
Read a first-year archeology textbook for more information, and then come to your own conclusion.
Yeah, you're correct, stuff in Linux breaks, there are circular dependencies, incompatibilities, and on and on. My point, such as it is, is that there seems to be a bit less guesswork when developing stuff - it's just all right there. Example: I need to see how to track connections through a firewall where the outgoing connection is on one port, and the reverse connection is on another. Answer: look at the FTP tracking code in iptables. There's no need for documentation - it's all right there, before my eyes, to take and use. Which I am doing these days at work.
And you're right, it absolutely is impossible to track two moving platforms. If (big, big if) Linux becomes something more than a niche desktop, one of them will win, and will be the target of commercial development.
Finally, ditching X isn't the answer. There's a lot more to each desktop than X. I recently installed GnomeMeeting on my KDE box. As it installed, it dragged in bonobo, Gnome this, Gnome that, and put a bunch of duplicated effort on my machine. That's the real problem, I think - two entirely different application frameworks, desktop services, and support libraries.
I dunno. I developed for Windows from 3.1 to 2000 inclusive, and my biggest complaint was the shiftiness of the platform - stuff kept changing on me with each Service Pack or Office install. And so much is hidden from view...I remember writing a Windows packet sniffer before raw sockets were included in the OS. You have NO IDEA what a nightmare this was. Stuff just didn't work as documented...who knows why? So it was off to MS tech support...bleh.
The developer exodus to Linux has little to do with the desktop. It's got everything to do with code openness, and stuff behaving predictably in a stable manner. Like you, I doubt either desktop (KDE or Gnome) will become some huge MS-disturbing force, so developers and companies aren't really targeting them.
That said, the architecture of KDE is very nice indeed. Assuming you aren't too much of a MS bigot, read some code and see for yourself:)
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What the hell difference would the type of server OS make? It's the software they're running that matters here. Your comment is like saying a blind guy would drive better in a Dodge Dakota than a Toyota Tacoma.
One day, you'll learn about these things called "companies" who have "data" on many "servers" and who need to perform "transactions" with "objects" scattered around everywhere. Have fun!
Found on the Misogyny site:
"I myself am notoriously unsuccessful with women."
Enough said, I think.
Well yes, I certainly agree - anyone who condones child abuse is a criminal. But anyone who says that what adults do in their own free time, harming no one and giving them (at least some) happiness, is wrong, then you're overstepping the boundaries of protecting the innocent.
For many years, for reasons of my own, I've given money to a women's rape crisis shelter. Obviously, there's no way I would ever condone sexual abuse of any kind; I've made a substantial, material committment against it. So don't think that just because I condone sexual activities that people do in private, activities that you and I might never do in a million years, I condone abusive behaviour. Certainly not.
You are labouring under a logical flaw: sodomy is always abusive. At least, that's what it seems like you believe, anyway; I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Guess what: the vast, vast majority of relationships of this nature are not abusive at all. No one is denying that forced sex (including that which involves sodomy) is a crime. That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about here. Your assertion that sodomy is morally wrong is what I'm denying, NOT the assertion that abusive sexual relationships are wrong. Do you see the difference?
If you are into sanctioning countries or people that condone abusive sexual relationships, then I'm with you. If you make the erroneous assumption that a consensual sexual act is worthy of sanction, because you assume it is necessarily abusive, then I am against you.
So, to rephrase: if a country happens to not criminalise sodomy, you would want the U.S. to not deal with that country economically. In other words, you would not have dealings with nearly every democracy on earth.
I hope you realise how silly that is. Happily, it will never come to pass, but it still makes me shake my head when I hear stuff like that coming out of people's mouths (OK, keyboards too).
Your morality is yours, and is entirely relative. It is not a fixed, universal thing, no matter how much you might think it is. The founding fathers of your country were very smart, and realised this fact; that's why they were sure to explicitly separate church and state, realising the damage that could be done when archaic moral systems were allowed to influence governmental function.
What? You mean you'd try to outlaw something two people do consensually, on their own time, with no harm to themselves or others? Why? And I cannot believe you'd be in favour of forcing your medieval ideas on other sovereign states...hey, have you considered extreme Islam? Sounds like your thing.
Hahaha! Wow, that's hilarious. First, before anyone responds to this guy, check his sig. At this point, the "kook alert" bell should be ringing.
Leftists don't hate individualism, you dummy. They just don't like selfishness - actions that are taken at the expense and harm of others.
Everyone, including lefty types, like the freedom cars bring, but for some, the associated costs are very high. It would be nice to alleviate some of those costs (pollution, congestion, poor urban design) by coming up with something better.
Europeans, in your mind, are no doubt hateful lefties with few redeeming qualities. I recommend you visit, oh, say, Amsterdam sometime. What you'll find are plenty of horrible, socialist, know-it-all, (etc. - all the other name-calling you resorted to) people using an excellent, freedom-enhancing transit system in the city centre, and driving all around in their cars outside of there. Central Amsterdam has great air quality; "bad traffic" is when there are five cars stopped at a light. No one seems to be on their way to the gulag - that would be the U.S., if you happen to be a pot-smoker - and it's safe to say people are pretty individualistic there. The tram and train system is safe, convenient, cheap, and very quick.
As for your absurd assessment of environmentalism - no ideology, not even yours, ever trumps science. Remember that.
You should probably quit smoking pot.
Perfect Blue - yes, I had the great misfortune to sit through this. The silly violence was beyond gratuitous. Here's a question for you: could you imagine anime like this being made about a man? That is, an entertainer being made to degrade himself for the good of his career, in all sorts of titillating ways? Here's a hint: no. It would never happen. This stuff ranks right up there with exploitation flicks like "I Spit On Your Grave" - "oh, the main character is a woman! She kicks ass!" Right, after a half-hour rape scene.
The animation was better than average, for anime. If Dragonball Z is a 0, and Chuck Jones Warner Bros. is a 10, then Perfect Blue is a 4 or so.
Anime is just B movie cartoons. If it were live action, you'd laugh your ass off.
I've seen plenty of anime, sadly. Famous ones like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, and more - they were all just awful. The framerates are so low the animation is actually distractingly bad. The dialogue is hokey and cliched. And of course women get very poor treatment - you'd almost think most anime watchers are women-hating (fearing) geeks who sit at home alone, masturbating wildly to revenge/lust fantasies of cartoon women getting tormented.
Yeah, "appreciation for the art." Sure.
Anime is low-framerate, melodramatic, misogynistic garbage. Every anime movie I've seen - and I've seen a few, thanks to my "friends" - falls into this category. The animation of anything that's supposed to be moving quickly is laughably bad, the dialogue is just dumb and juvenile, and there is always - ALWAYS - a shot of a tied-up chick being either terrorised or mutilated, usually with a shot up her skirt thrown in. How can anyone be addicted to this stuff?
As a very offtopic response, check out ECS for cheap, quality (though loud) laptops. I just bought one: 2.4GHz P4, 512 MB, 40 GB drive, DVD-CDRW, 4 USB 2.0 ports, 15" screen, Radeon 9000, etc. for just over a grand US. No OS included. The model I got was the ECS Green 732.
Oooh, clack, clack, clack - shame on you.
Things must be picking up. I get about 3 calls a week from headhunters, whereas even two months ago I was getting none. Those guys (and women) sure are persistent. This one woman, especially; she has this incredibly loud, brassy voice. I wonder how these people survived when things were at their worst?
"I will never ever say JBoss out loud. I can imagine what it would sound like, and it's frighteningly lame."
Unlike "stratjakt", which just rolls off the tongue.
When I was a kid, I would have KILLED for something like this. We actually did end up building vehicles as we got older - using salvaged lawnmower engines, generally. To this day, my dad bugs me about the disassembled engine in his garage, which I left there 15 years ago.
The big problem was, none of us had access to a welder. The fact that we couldn't actually weld would have proven no obstacle. Eventually, we took to building boats instead, and ended up in a series of harrowing pellet gun wars with the other gang of boat-building kids.
Ah, life in a small town, eh?
Well, there are schools in the U.S. that offer this - I think there is actually a book based on a course offered at Purdue.
Then again, if you don't want to move, why not finish a normal CS degree, then take a course from Apple? I believe train.apple.com has course details.
I think he specifically meant beliefs which do interfere with others' lives - directly or indirectly.
Your private, onanistic ritual harms no one (not even you, since you presumably get some emotional happiness from it). But other beliefs can and do, and they do not deserve our sanction just because they exist, and it's "correct" to respect them.
Anecdotal example: a friend insisted on seeking a cure for her severe throat infection via an "alternative" medical cure - I don't remember if it was Chinese medicine or homeopathy or whatever. It was covered by our national medical plan, which, in the minds of many, gives it some sort of validity. Two months later, she was in the hospital, weak, thin, barely able to breathe through her horribly swollen throat, and the Western medicine she derided and mocked pumped her full of antibiotics and cured her in a week.
Why should any medical plan provide coverage for stuff that is obvious quackery? Because lots of people believe it, and we sadly respect those beliefs by providing for it (after a lot of lobbying on their part, it must be said).
What about religions that oppress women? For YEARS after the Taliban came to power, Western women's groups were pushing for governments to do something - even to invade and help the women of Afghanistan. The common excuse was to respect their "beliefs". What horrible bullshit.
In short, there are a lot of beliefs that do not deserve any respect whatsoever, and, by any objective measure, are harmful to any society that embraces them.
No, you're still not getting it - the layers on top of your cat are known to be younger than the cat. Now, if the layer was formed by some known event - say, ash from Krakatoa - then we know the cat is older than that, but younger than the previous event. If there is biological material embedded in the sediment, then that is dateable. And so forth. PLEASE read an introductory text on sediment dating; very interesting stuff. And, to counter your arguements about what "evolutionists" (scientists) ignore, keep in mind that dating is a scientific process that uses techniques drawn from physics, biology and chemistry - "evolutionists", then, are scientists trained in these disciplines.
Finally, we have excellent ideas about sediment deposition - there is an entire science dedicated to dirt and its formation. Just because you don't understand it, or it doesn't make sense to you/your church/your belief system, doesn't mean it's not a well-understood process. Please do some reading.
Yes, that's what I meant when I said strata dating all by itself is relative - to assign an absolute date, you need something on the order of what you're discussing embedded in the strata.
You're right about the re-dating, too, of course.
OK, you seem to be a little confused. What gets dated are the layers of deposition ON TOP of your cat, not the dirt under it. Geological deposition happens in layers of strata; go to the seaside and look at an eroded-out bank. You can see layers of clay, ash, sand, perhaps midden from some ancient group, and so forth.
Agreed, dating by strata is a bit uncertain at times - in the absence of any other evidence, all you can really say is "this is older than that, because this is underneath that." But the presence of dateable bits in the strata itself, or of well-known events (a layer of ash may correspond to some well-known volcanic eruption, for example) allows scientists to more accurately assign an absolute date range to the item at hand (your cat).
Read a first-year archeology textbook for more information, and then come to your own conclusion.
Yeah, you're correct, stuff in Linux breaks, there are circular dependencies, incompatibilities, and on and on. My point, such as it is, is that there seems to be a bit less guesswork when developing stuff - it's just all right there. Example: I need to see how to track connections through a firewall where the outgoing connection is on one port, and the reverse connection is on another. Answer: look at the FTP tracking code in iptables. There's no need for documentation - it's all right there, before my eyes, to take and use. Which I am doing these days at work.
And you're right, it absolutely is impossible to track two moving platforms. If (big, big if) Linux becomes something more than a niche desktop, one of them will win, and will be the target of commercial development.
Finally, ditching X isn't the answer. There's a lot more to each desktop than X. I recently installed GnomeMeeting on my KDE box. As it installed, it dragged in bonobo, Gnome this, Gnome that, and put a bunch of duplicated effort on my machine. That's the real problem, I think - two entirely different application frameworks, desktop services, and support libraries.
I dunno. I developed for Windows from 3.1 to 2000 inclusive, and my biggest complaint was the shiftiness of the platform - stuff kept changing on me with each Service Pack or Office install. And so much is hidden from view...I remember writing a Windows packet sniffer before raw sockets were included in the OS. You have NO IDEA what a nightmare this was. Stuff just didn't work as documented...who knows why? So it was off to MS tech support...bleh.
:)
The developer exodus to Linux has little to do with the desktop. It's got everything to do with code openness, and stuff behaving predictably in a stable manner. Like you, I doubt either desktop (KDE or Gnome) will become some huge MS-disturbing force, so developers and companies aren't really targeting them.
That said, the architecture of KDE is very nice indeed. Assuming you aren't too much of a MS bigot, read some code and see for yourself
Huh?