I'm sure if congress gives their "constituants" (the ones who give them money) what they want and cram HD media up our asses with legislation, HD media will be a resounding success!
Yes, I have seen an HDTV's picture. Yes, I have 20/15 vision. No, I cannot see what the big fucking deal is.
2) They won't tip their hand until E3 probably, but you can expect the classic franchises will be represented.
3) No. But I'll help.
Stuff about the Revolution we know:
System: Plays Revolution games and GameCube games natively. It's about the size of 3 DVD cases stacked together. Slot loader acceps both types of discs. No hard drive, but has 512 MB of flash memory with the option to use SD cards for aditional storage. It will be fully compatible with GameCube controllers and memory cards. It will be Wi-Fi ready out of the box, and will use the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service. The Revolution will play DVD movies with an attachment. CPU will be made by IBM. GPU will be made by ATI.
Media: DVD
Output: 480p is the highest confirmed so far.
Controller: Wireless. Rev supports up to 4 at once. Sensor mounted on top of TV can detect location, motion, and controller orientation. Tech demos have shown that the controller can be used as a pointer using this system (directly, a la light gun, some calibration will likely be necessary). The main "freehand" controller has an expansion port. This will definately be used to add an aditional analog stick and extra buttons ("Nunchuck" configuration). Traditional-style controller "shells" that the controller can plug into have been mentioned by Nintendo themselves. Much else is possible, but nothing else has been announced.
Price: Under $300 for system.
Launch: Before Thanksgiving.
Games: Only revolution games currently announced: New Mario Platformer (duh), Metroid Prime 3, Online Super Smash Brothers, New Zelda (again, duh). Nothing other than we know they are working on them is known. Also, Nintendo is calling the Revolution a "virtual console" and has said that their back catalog of classic games (NES, SNES, N64) will be available for download through the Wi-Fi service. No word on pricing or how that will work yet.
That should bring you about up to speed. Anyone want to add anything?
As of yet I have seen no type of game which could not have been made without the new controller.
Don't think of it like that. There isn't any game that couldn't be emulated on another system to some extent. DS games could be played with a mouse on a PC, but the lack of direct input would hinder your performance.
Think instead of how the controller will help existing games. Imagine a Pilotwings where you hold the controller like apaper airplane instead of using clunky analog sticks. Imagine a Mario Kart where you hold the controller by the ends and turn your hands to steer. Imagine a Madden game where you can simply point to the open reciever, a FIFA game where you can aim a shot by pointing to a location on the screen as if it were the goal (flick the controler to give it a little english), or an NHL game where you can reliably pass to the right wing from the left wing, because you can point to the player you want and not rely on a clunky analog stick passing system. Hell, imagine how much easier menu navigation in RPGs will be.
Think of what you wanted to do when you first picked up a controller. Ever point at the TV? Shoot that guy! Him! Right there! Now you can and it will count. Ever try to dodge a punch by wrenching your controller to the side? Now you can and it will count.
In my mind the Revolution controller is about making games easier to while actually increasing gameplay depth. Again think of Madden. Easy mode - Point somewhere and throw to the nearest reciever. Expert mode - Where you point is where you throw. That has been attempted before. Remember John Elway's Quarterback in the 8-Bit era? Now, however, you have a quick and accurate control system to make it work.
There will be games that will be new, but they won't be new because they couldn't have been done before. They will be new, because they couldn't have been done well before.
Think of the Revolution controller that way and you might get as excited as I am about it.
I bet if they stop covering Viagra and buying $20 gallons of orange juice, insurance companies can recover the costs of the occasional extra open heart surgery.
Damn, what I meant to say is:
I'd bet if insurance companies stopped covering Viagra and pharmacutical companies stopped buying $20 gallons of orange juice, we could recover the costs of a few extra open heart surgeries.
Stop your bitching. The problem with the health care system is not that people are not living healthy lifestyles, it's doctors, pharmacutical companies, and insurance companies working in unison to squeeze every penny out of our collective asses.
I bet if they stop covering Viagra and buying $20 gallons of orange juice, insurance companies can recover the costs of the occasional extra open heart surgery.
So, if I believe 2+2=4 and my friend believes 2+2=-75, by your logic 2+2 must equal -35.5.
Let me give you an example with a little less hyperbole. If I were to say that a gay friend should be allowed to live a happy and free gay life, I should not be required to weigh a bigot's argument that my gay friend should be stabbed 37 times with the same merit. One is right. One is wrong. Yet by certain people's opinion, I would be radical.
Who wants the old version when the newer version is out even if it has only a few new features?
Me.
I buy very few sports games. Usually only one per sport I like per generation. FIFA 2002 was a reasonably good soccer game with a great soundtrack. I got it for $5 new over two years ago. That, my friends, is value.
As an aside, you can have some of the most politically incorrect matches with that game. I always handicap myself by playing as Iraq. It's hilarious and topical. I wonder if I get put on some sort of list for that.
So to combine our two posts, they need the demo units and a commercial that gets them interested in trying the demo units. I'll agree with that. Like the "Touching is good." or "Touch! DS" campaigns for the DS in the US and Japan respectively.
I wouldn't avoid game footage though. They will likely benefit from a two or three pronged attack: the first prong advertising the revolution controller concept, the second prong advertising the virtual console and the online service, and the third prong advertising the actual games. I could see minute long ads including bits of all three ideas. Damn, a Rev Super Bowl ad would be sweet.
I believe very strongly that Zelda and the Revolution will release within a month of each other. Since the Revolution plays GC games natively it would be a mistake not to release what would be such a huge Revolution-selling game so far a way. I expect Zelda to prime the market for the Rev's release sort of a pre-launch game to get the Nintendo name on everyone's lips.
Just my prediction.
It will sell fairly well, but people will be confused by it at first.
Depends on the number of demo units they have. If they put Revolutions playable in stores a few weeks before launch (like they did with the DS), I don't see a problem.
"Personally I haven't played anything with Nintendo on it since the N64 and the batarang controller, but I still love and play alot of SNES and NES games."
Commenting on a post about this:
"ATI Talks Revolution Graphics"
I do believe the kettle is black. What's your point?
Personally I haven't played anything with Nintendo on it since the N64 and the batarang controller, but I still love and play alot of SNES and NES games.
Well, sucks to be you then. Missed out on a lot of good games.
I can't believe these cockmonglers at Next Generation have the balls to bitch at a company for recognizing that it's unable to compete with the BILLION dollar likes of Sony and Microsoft.
God damn it. Nintendo is a company that keeps billions of dollars in cash. They are famous for it. The last figure I read, they had over $7 billion completely liquid. That is nearly twice as much than Microsoft lost on the XBOX. They have enough money to play the same game as Microsoft and Sony; they choose not to.
Why? Profit.
The arms race between Sony and MS may yield no net profit for either company. Nintendo is a well run company. They will not invest billions in a venture that is so high risk.
That just isn't true. Nintendo keeps billions of cash on hand. They are famous for it. The last number I heard was roughly $7 billion. That doesn't include any of their other investments and assets.
Now, I don't know if they do buy magazine or website reviews. As a fan, I hope they don't. However, I do know they have plenty of money to do so if they wanted to.
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Doesn't change the fact that your first post was deliberately misleading.
I'm sure if congress gives their "constituants" (the ones who give them money) what they want and cram HD media up our asses with legislation, HD media will be a resounding success!
Yes, I have seen an HDTV's picture. Yes, I have 20/15 vision. No, I cannot see what the big fucking deal is.
UMD movies have been selling better than DVD movies first did.
The PSP is also selling better than telephones, TVs, or, hell, video games did when they were first brought to market.
The US also has more acres of forest in it today than we did when our country was founded.
Damn those environmentalists! Lying to us all this time! Unless... there are facts I'm missing... Nah!
1) Probably. The publishers like it.
2) They won't tip their hand until E3 probably, but you can expect the classic franchises will be represented.
3) No. But I'll help.
Stuff about the Revolution we know:
System: Plays Revolution games and GameCube games natively. It's about the size of 3 DVD cases stacked together. Slot loader acceps both types of discs. No hard drive, but has 512 MB of flash memory with the option to use SD cards for aditional storage. It will be fully compatible with GameCube controllers and memory cards. It will be Wi-Fi ready out of the box, and will use the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service. The Revolution will play DVD movies with an attachment. CPU will be made by IBM. GPU will be made by ATI.
Media: DVD
Output: 480p is the highest confirmed so far.
Controller: Wireless. Rev supports up to 4 at once. Sensor mounted on top of TV can detect location, motion, and controller orientation. Tech demos have shown that the controller can be used as a pointer using this system (directly, a la light gun, some calibration will likely be necessary). The main "freehand" controller has an expansion port. This will definately be used to add an aditional analog stick and extra buttons ("Nunchuck" configuration). Traditional-style controller "shells" that the controller can plug into have been mentioned by Nintendo themselves. Much else is possible, but nothing else has been announced.
Price: Under $300 for system.
Launch: Before Thanksgiving.
Games: Only revolution games currently announced: New Mario Platformer (duh), Metroid Prime 3, Online Super Smash Brothers, New Zelda (again, duh). Nothing other than we know they are working on them is known. Also, Nintendo is calling the Revolution a "virtual console" and has said that their back catalog of classic games (NES, SNES, N64) will be available for download through the Wi-Fi service. No word on pricing or how that will work yet.
That should bring you about up to speed. Anyone want to add anything?
As of yet I have seen no type of game which could not have been made without the new controller.
Don't think of it like that. There isn't any game that couldn't be emulated on another system to some extent. DS games could be played with a mouse on a PC, but the lack of direct input would hinder your performance.
Think instead of how the controller will help existing games. Imagine a Pilotwings where you hold the controller like apaper airplane instead of using clunky analog sticks. Imagine a Mario Kart where you hold the controller by the ends and turn your hands to steer. Imagine a Madden game where you can simply point to the open reciever, a FIFA game where you can aim a shot by pointing to a location on the screen as if it were the goal (flick the controler to give it a little english), or an NHL game where you can reliably pass to the right wing from the left wing, because you can point to the player you want and not rely on a clunky analog stick passing system. Hell, imagine how much easier menu navigation in RPGs will be.
Think of what you wanted to do when you first picked up a controller. Ever point at the TV? Shoot that guy! Him! Right there! Now you can and it will count. Ever try to dodge a punch by wrenching your controller to the side? Now you can and it will count.
In my mind the Revolution controller is about making games easier to while actually increasing gameplay depth. Again think of Madden. Easy mode - Point somewhere and throw to the nearest reciever. Expert mode - Where you point is where you throw. That has been attempted before. Remember John Elway's Quarterback in the 8-Bit era? Now, however, you have a quick and accurate control system to make it work.
There will be games that will be new, but they won't be new because they couldn't have been done before. They will be new, because they couldn't have been done well before.
Think of the Revolution controller that way and you might get as excited as I am about it.
but it also wants its original author(s) properly credited
And perhaps paid what you would pay a freelance writer for it.
Hell yeah I'd want to. I don't fit in now. A few hundred years into the future I might be the fucking Fonz!
I bet if they stop covering Viagra and buying $20 gallons of orange juice, insurance companies can recover the costs of the occasional extra open heart surgery.
Damn, what I meant to say is:
I'd bet if insurance companies stopped covering Viagra and pharmacutical companies stopped buying $20 gallons of orange juice, we could recover the costs of a few extra open heart surgeries.
Stop your bitching. The problem with the health care system is not that people are not living healthy lifestyles, it's doctors, pharmacutical companies, and insurance companies working in unison to squeeze every penny out of our collective asses.
I suggest you read this mostly true story about a drug rep in comic form.
I bet if they stop covering Viagra and buying $20 gallons of orange juice, insurance companies can recover the costs of the occasional extra open heart surgery.
Sorry, I've been exposed to far to many people who actually think that way recently. I have to remember where I am sometimes ^_^.
So, if I believe 2+2=4 and my friend believes 2+2=-75, by your logic 2+2 must equal -35.5.
Let me give you an example with a little less hyperbole. If I were to say that a gay friend should be allowed to live a happy and free gay life, I should not be required to weigh a bigot's argument that my gay friend should be stabbed 37 times with the same merit. One is right. One is wrong. Yet by certain people's opinion, I would be radical.
And your statement assumes that professors actually teach.
Who wants the old version when the newer version is out even if it has only a few new features?
Me.
I buy very few sports games. Usually only one per sport I like per generation. FIFA 2002 was a reasonably good soccer game with a great soundtrack. I got it for $5 new over two years ago. That, my friends, is value.
As an aside, you can have some of the most politically incorrect matches with that game. I always handicap myself by playing as Iraq. It's hilarious and topical. I wonder if I get put on some sort of list for that.
So to combine our two posts, they need the demo units and a commercial that gets them interested in trying the demo units. I'll agree with that. Like the "Touching is good." or "Touch! DS" campaigns for the DS in the US and Japan respectively.
I wouldn't avoid game footage though. They will likely benefit from a two or three pronged attack: the first prong advertising the revolution controller concept, the second prong advertising the virtual console and the online service, and the third prong advertising the actual games. I could see minute long ads including bits of all three ideas. Damn, a Rev Super Bowl ad would be sweet.
I believe very strongly that Zelda and the Revolution will release within a month of each other. Since the Revolution plays GC games natively it would be a mistake not to release what would be such a huge Revolution-selling game so far a way. I expect Zelda to prime the market for the Rev's release sort of a pre-launch game to get the Nintendo name on everyone's lips.
Just my prediction.
It will sell fairly well, but people will be confused by it at first.
Depends on the number of demo units they have. If they put Revolutions playable in stores a few weeks before launch (like they did with the DS), I don't see a problem.
You posted this:
"Personally I haven't played anything with Nintendo on it since the N64 and the batarang controller, but I still love and play alot of SNES and NES games."
Commenting on a post about this:
"ATI Talks Revolution Graphics"
I do believe the kettle is black. What's your point?
Personally I haven't played anything with Nintendo on it since the N64 and the batarang controller, but I still love and play alot of SNES and NES games.
Well, sucks to be you then. Missed out on a lot of good games.
They might simply include the old chipset. Much like with the GBA backwards compatibility.
The President doesn't need one.
I'm still bothered by MMOs actually charging for the game discs.
But they did cover it up, and so, might I add, did the New York Times.
I can't believe these cockmonglers at Next Generation have the balls to bitch at a company for recognizing that it's unable to compete with the BILLION dollar likes of Sony and Microsoft.
God damn it. Nintendo is a company that keeps billions of dollars in cash. They are famous for it. The last figure I read, they had over $7 billion completely liquid. That is nearly twice as much than Microsoft lost on the XBOX. They have enough money to play the same game as Microsoft and Sony; they choose not to.
Why? Profit.
The arms race between Sony and MS may yield no net profit for either company. Nintendo is a well run company. They will not invest billions in a venture that is so high risk.
I believe the key word might be... foreign. Yes, quite possibly. Good try though.
In Soviet Russia, Slashdot trolls you!
That just isn't true. Nintendo keeps billions of cash on hand. They are famous for it. The last number I heard was roughly $7 billion. That doesn't include any of their other investments and assets.
Now, I don't know if they do buy magazine or website reviews. As a fan, I hope they don't. However, I do know they have plenty of money to do so if they wanted to.