For this discussion, I definately did not want to read at a threshold above 4. I began at 2, and with a grain of salt poured over most comments. I wasnt looking for the hotshots that bragged about their careers, or their flashy plans, rather I was looking to get a sense on avg (just like the original question wanted) of people's thoughts.
Anyway, one comment hit me strongest, and gave me most hope:
"the industry will continue to evolve in ways unimaginable"
and another idea (evident in many comments) is that people might move out of IT into management...
Well, I'll just respond to this second idea. You see, if you havent already realized it, this whole planet is a machine. People are a machine. Now, that doesnt mean its a deterministic machine or anything like that. But, IT is simply the most dynamic, the least latent, and the newest way of interfacing with this machine and its creations. When you move up to middle management, you're still crunching information, just at a different rate, in a different direction, and with a different flavor.
Finally, I'm not trying to de-humanize with what I have just said, rather, its simply just one way to look at things.
I've been searching for a way to be able to have screen movies in linux. Not just screen shots.
Such a way would make this engineers team much easier.
But I think that given the simple nature of this tetris game, that you could have actually relied on the "import" (part of imagemagick) command to accomplish this.
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Heres a slightly less archaic link off that regulations.gov site
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BUT im not trying to stir any emotions here, I think that this website will see all these out of date agencies work towards getting themselves fully online. AND hopefully recognizing a gnupg certificate with a high trust rating as BETTER than some bullshit signature on paper (+ the added costs of: snail mail (TTL of like 30 days) AND the time cost of going from print-> electronic (that is once it reaches the org after the snailmail)).
I've had to deal with this bullcrap lately because of moving related circumstances....
although theres too much infrastructure in place...like the fact that phones physically have 10 buttons, you could keep number size down by using an alphabet.
For some reasons the companies are just dumbass anal about it. They're have been flexible "e-paper" displays since 2000 as trials in federated department stores macys.
2 main companies currently lead the pack, BOTH have production facilities:
Cobweb...if you had seen "The Fast and the Furious" you would of remembered the laptop that the police officer/(under cover racer) had a mad leet laptop controlling his engine.
In 1994, the fledling (but well backed) wired magazine sent william to the tiny island nation. I was browsing wired archives a few weeks ago and found this.
All the other comments didnt recognize that this article mentions hyrbid vehicles and the like as an impetus to this proposal.
I stand very strongly behind my parent comment. Way to decipher the bullshit out of this VERY complex solution.
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Hmm, sorry, but i still view it as art.
Why? Because crap like this has already been done looonnng ago.
Take for example the rat and cheese computer. Thats like a decade old if not way more.
Or The 2 RFC's on IP over avians (birds) as the medium.
Moreover, as I said, he's simply using water in its solid form which, due to its size, is so innefficient relative to the minute size of the electron (something that we already harness quite well). Next, if you acknowledge the above argument, I reasoned that one might want to argue that to really make use out of this water as a new medium, you're going to have to look elsewhere than to its size (for communicating more information (or laying the foundations for research to do so) because smaller size = more information. Namely, you might have to look at its physicaly properties as huge bunch of matter. Well, the artist even says that he looks at surface tension, pressure....A) i highly doubt this is more than his own marketing hype. B) I've seen scientists struggle with the intracies of fluid dynamics for 40 years and they still have that much more time to go. I don't see this artist drawing, or citing ANY research on water dynamics. So, I concluded that there already is another front in science that takes something big that is composed of many parts like a water droplet, and analyzes it for its internal state, in order to make use of more information. Namely, pretend the electron is this big water droplet, and the analysis is quantum analysis, something that is well underway.
Finally, nearly EVERY material at one time or another has been tested for its information carrying capacity. Thats all some electrical engineers/physicists do. And this includes water.
Electrons are just so much faster than anything that water can offer. And in my first post, I already discussed that water has been tried as a medium for electrons, its just that containing this water is less feasible than simple wire/fiber/air.
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I dont mean this as an insult. And its very good art, but observe:
The core technology behind StreamingMedia is a new network protocol I'm developing for water transmission called H20/IP. H20/IP functions in a similar way as TCP/IP but focuses on the inherent viscous properties of water that are not present in traditional packet networks. These properties include fluidity, heat index, tri-state properties, density difference depending on state, and surface tension. Based on the OSI (Open Systems Interconnection) Model, H20/IP exists as a physical layer consisting of custom-designed hardware throughputs, a network layer used to decode incoming and outgoing messages, a transport layer between messages and communication interfaces, and an application layer that allows for connecting infinite input and output mechanisms. Depending on the design of the StreamingMedia network, the data layer can dynamically adjust to each change while maintaining the integrity of the network.
This simply uses water as the medium instead of: fiber, wire, or air. Most likely, I would conclude that solid water is just too dynamic of a material to get anything useful out of it. For example, this display uses water drops, which are huge compared to electrons. Now, using electricity over water would be a little more interesting, but then it REALLY just becomes another medium for fiber wires. And if you want to get really creative, you can say that since there is so much matter in one drop of water, you can automagically make use of this inherent fact to send more data...then I say bah....because you can inherently make use of the quantum properties of electrons to get more out of them, and this is where we are REALLY going towards.
Thanks for contributing to the entropy of this planet you artist!
just how delicate would these be....it still means nothing if I have to treat it like a baby. Id rather have tape disk still, which is probably way more shock resistant. True, this harddrive is selfcontained.
Do i think the benefits of portability outweigh the fact that its still just a harddrive? No.
think it is time to get away from the notion of the user interface with no learning curve.
Well said. You know, for years now, we have been able to feel this affect on the members of our society that arent like us. We can feel the impatience of our busy soccer mom's who have no time but to drive their kids....to soccer, or talk on the phone to the other soccer moms. We all hate that companies market to impatience.
Now an example, Mp3.com, i like its free music, yet I've notice over my 3 years of using it, that every year or so, it changes its interface. This is too fool the dumbasses that mp3.com is working hard at its service. But its purely a graphical change, and in actuality, you have to relearn how to use it and look at it.
So we see here that the dumbasses at mp3.com's marketing scheme are marketing toward that impatient crowd of people that need to feel like their hand is being held, yet its interesting how at the same time, this has an anti effect, namely confusion.
Anyway, I believe that the solution is conservatism to all of this FUCKING HEADACHE of marketronism. But the funny thing is that american society is all but conservative. We're all about moving around....our techies are all about diversity...because we CAN make viral copies of software according to a copyleft, we WILL.
Because gentoo CAN exist on its own, instead of taking advantage of debian's system of developers and simply building on top of this... (eg, theres NOTHING stopping them from simply writing a pythonized version of apt that gets source (apt-get source)....
Anyway, this semi rant began because i was reminded of an article on version fatigue:
Being a participant in the open source world really makes you think about these issues.
By chance, I was pondering on this a week ago.
Basically, I think that a lot of people are dumb-scared of the word 'profit'. On the other hand, I acknowledge some of the fears that go into the collective knee-jerk condemnation of profit:
SourceForge's compiler farms are great for open source projects (and besides, open source projects will get ported/tested/fixed on all the platforms that matter to the people that use them).
This person can barely communicate in written sentances. He doesnt really say what about SF's compile farm is lacking.
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For this discussion, I definately did not want to read at a threshold above 4. I began at 2, and with a grain of salt poured over most comments. I wasnt looking for the hotshots that bragged about their careers, or their flashy plans, rather I was looking to get a sense on avg (just like the original question wanted) of people's thoughts.
;-)
Anyway, one comment hit me strongest, and gave me most hope:
"the industry will continue to evolve in ways unimaginable"
and another idea (evident in many comments) is that people might move out of IT into management...
Well, I'll just respond to this second idea. You see, if you havent already realized it, this whole planet is a machine. People are a machine. Now, that doesnt mean its a deterministic machine or anything like that. But, IT is simply the most dynamic, the least latent, and the newest way of interfacing with this machine and its creations. When you move up to middle management, you're still crunching information, just at a different rate, in a different direction, and with a different flavor.
Finally, I'm not trying to de-humanize with what I have just said, rather, its simply just one way to look at things.
Peace and love to all
I've been searching for a way to be able to have screen movies in linux. Not just screen shots.
Such a way would make this engineers team much easier.
But I think that given the simple nature of this tetris game, that you could have actually relied on the "import" (part of imagemagick) command to accomplish this.
So...tetris dorks--
Heres one for example:
Heres a slightly less archaic link off that regulations.gov site
BUT im not trying to stir any emotions here, I think that this website will see all these out of date agencies work towards getting themselves fully online. AND hopefully recognizing a gnupg certificate with a high trust rating as BETTER than some bullshit signature on paper (+ the added costs of: snail mail (TTL of like 30 days) AND the time cost of going from print-> electronic (that is once it reaches the org after the snailmail)).
I've had to deal with this bullcrap lately because of moving related circumstances....
although theres too much infrastructure in place...like the fact that phones physically have 10 buttons, you could keep number size down by using an alphabet.
For some reasons the companies are just dumbass anal about it. They're have been flexible "e-paper" displays since 2000 as trials in federated department stores macys.
2 main companies currently lead the pack, BOTH have production facilities:
http://www.gyriconmedia.com/ Uses beads. berkeley->Xerox-parc->private. production fac. in michigan.
http://www.eink.com/ Uses organics but no where near as small as quantum dot-anything. MIT -> private. Manufacturing facility in Japan.
actually, to draw an analogy, RFID is more like bluetooth, and the human implantable things are like wifi/cdma.
They actually have other devices designed specifically for humans like http://www.digitalangel.net/
I also enjoy a 10th century bedroom. All I have in there is a chair and an excellent foam futon.
My only phone (i do hate it), a cellphone, is turned to silent mode when im in the house.
My parent comment is just assholedom. I wish i could mod it down.
Cobweb...if you had seen "The Fast and the Furious" you would of remembered the laptop that the police officer/(under cover racer) had a mad leet laptop controlling his engine.
There was opengl and everything....
You are so 2 years ago.
More importantly, do they expect content producers and consumers alike to really adopt this?
At some point, it will begin.
I went to SanFran this summer, and I said...hey, why don't I drop in on Intel in Silicon Valley.
I took the train down, and dropped in...
They had some dinky ass little museum about how chips are made. And a single 20 inch tv screen showing 1 hallway in the actual production plant....
It was the lamest thing ever.
I had more fun pedal biking around the valley (and up the mountains) than at this excuse for a factory.
Maybe the only tourist attraction is the apple campus. But Silicon Valley is just basically overpriced suburbs...., nothing exotic.
Singapore is a high tech nation.
m l?person=laurie_anderson&topic_set=wiredpeople
In 1994, the fledling (but well backed) wired magazine sent william to the tiny island nation. I was browsing wired archives a few weeks ago and found this.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.04/gibson.ht
irc.freenode.net #bittorrent
chat with the drones.
All the other comments didnt recognize that this article mentions hyrbid vehicles and the like as an impetus to this proposal.
I stand very strongly behind my parent comment. Way to decipher the bullshit out of this VERY complex solution.
Hmm, sorry, but i still view it as art.
Why? Because crap like this has already been done looonnng ago.
Take for example the rat and cheese computer. Thats like a decade old if not way more.
Or The 2 RFC's on IP over avians (birds) as the medium.
Moreover, as I said, he's simply using water in its solid form which, due to its size, is so innefficient relative to the minute size of the electron (something that we already harness quite well). Next, if you acknowledge the above argument, I reasoned that one might want to argue that to really make use out of this water as a new medium, you're going to have to look elsewhere than to its size (for communicating more information (or laying the foundations for research to do so) because smaller size = more information. Namely, you might have to look at its physicaly properties as huge bunch of matter. Well, the artist even says that he looks at surface tension, pressure....A) i highly doubt this is more than his own marketing hype. B) I've seen scientists struggle with the intracies of fluid dynamics for 40 years and they still have that much more time to go. I don't see this artist drawing, or citing ANY research on water dynamics. So, I concluded that there already is another front in science that takes something big that is composed of many parts like a water droplet, and analyzes it for its internal state, in order to make use of more information. Namely, pretend the electron is this big water droplet, and the analysis is quantum analysis, something that is well underway.
Finally, nearly EVERY material at one time or another has been tested for its information carrying capacity. Thats all some electrical engineers/physicists do. And this includes water.
Electrons are just so much faster than anything that water can offer. And in my first post, I already discussed that water has been tried as a medium for electrons, its just that containing this water is less feasible than simple wire/fiber/air.
This simply uses water as the medium instead of: fiber, wire, or air. Most likely, I would conclude that solid water is just too dynamic of a material to get anything useful out of it. For example, this display uses water drops, which are huge compared to electrons. Now, using electricity over water would be a little more interesting, but then it REALLY just becomes another medium for fiber wires. And if you want to get really creative, you can say that since there is so much matter in one drop of water, you can automagically make use of this inherent fact to send more data...then I say bah....because you can inherently make use of the quantum properties of electrons to get more out of them, and this is where we are REALLY going towards.
Thanks for contributing to the entropy of this planet you artist!
So: Just art...but good art. Well done!
Great reply, it provided me with some good context information that I, as someone whose never visited india, could never have directly gleaned.
IMHO, US has the greatest and strongest economy however current trend of "cutting cost" to serve an unknown master is not doing anyone any good.
Could u please expand on this...?
Or...on hindsight do you think this little comment is more of a reaction than a reality.
just how delicate would these be....it still means nothing if I have to treat it like a baby. Id rather have tape disk still, which is probably way more shock resistant. True, this harddrive is selfcontained.
Do i think the benefits of portability outweigh the fact that its still just a harddrive? No.
Im all for solid state.
think it is time to get away from the notion of the user interface with no learning curve.
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Well said. You know, for years now, we have been able to feel this affect on the members of our society that arent like us. We can feel the impatience of our busy soccer mom's who have no time but to drive their kids....to soccer, or talk on the phone to the other soccer moms. We all hate that companies market to impatience.
Now an example, Mp3.com, i like its free music, yet I've notice over my 3 years of using it, that every year or so, it changes its interface. This is too fool the dumbasses that mp3.com is working hard at its service. But its purely a graphical change, and in actuality, you have to relearn how to use it and look at it.
So we see here that the dumbasses at mp3.com's marketing scheme are marketing toward that impatient crowd of people that need to feel like their hand is being held, yet its interesting how at the same time, this has an anti effect, namely confusion.
Anyway, I believe that the solution is conservatism to all of this FUCKING HEADACHE of marketronism. But the funny thing is that american society is all but conservative. We're all about moving around....our techies are all about diversity...because we CAN make viral copies of software according to a copyleft, we WILL.
Because gentoo CAN exist on its own, instead of taking advantage of debian's system of developers and simply building on top of this... (eg, theres NOTHING stopping them from simply writing a pythonized version of apt that gets source (apt-get source)....
Anyway, this semi rant began because i was reminded of an article on version fatigue:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/20/12232
And I think that is also on the same lines as this and touches some different angles.
Yeah great, 75% of the people don't have food or access to medication for the growing AIDs epidemic but hell, at least they have Linux computers.
Right... so the biggest society in the world is capable of doing only 1 thing at time?
Like investing in infrastructure, which computing is, isnt a way to help the country???
I really need to talk more to get your comments out of my head.....
I wonder if now someone will write a tool to covert this ogg stream back into source code? :)
;-)
that thing known as God already did
even if they are related, I couldnt give a flying shit. Its not like it implies blogging causes unemployment.
It makes sense, no job, u have more time on your hands, I don't need this done scienticianly for me ok psychology magazine advocates??
you can set up something far far more powerful than a chroot'ed area with user-mode-linux
So if anyone is knowlegdeable about the apple part, could you compare the two.
Being a participant in the open source world really makes you think about these issues.
By chance, I was pondering on this a week ago.
Basically, I think that a lot of people are dumb-scared of the word 'profit'. On the other hand, I acknowledge some of the fears that go into the collective knee-jerk condemnation of profit:
http://slashdot.org/~hfastedge/journal/18516
are you a trained surgeon that specialized in reconstructive foam?
SourceForge's compiler farms are great for open source projects (and besides, open source projects will get ported/tested/fixed on all the platforms that matter to the people that use them).
This person can barely communicate in written sentances. He doesnt really say what about SF's compile farm is lacking.