Diebold makes shitty atm's in my opinion. I think they make machines that fall apart and malfunction very easy so that they can charge financial institutions out the wazoo for overpriced service. I prefer Triton, Tidel, Siemens, and Cross Minibank machines. However, if you want a machine that you can sink into concrete and be pretty sure nobody is going to hook up to it with a tow truck and rip it out, then a Diebold or NCR is pretty much your only choice.
As for machines getting slower (mentioned previously), it really depends on how the atm is connected to the aquirance system. If they are like most dial ups then they connect at around 300-1200 baud, and it takes no more than 30 seconds to dial and get an approval, but that's not including dispense time etc. Dial up machines are probably where you are noticing the slowdown, especially if that machine has a really crappy phone line and has to dial multiple times. Most that are on leased lines (yea a lot of atm's still use those) are quicker, and a lot of machines are switching to use cellular and ip based communications. I know 300 baud sounds silly, but it's extremely stable, and you are only transmitting a small amount of encrypted information. Also retrains would actually take more time to connect than the 300 baud would actually send and recieve everything it needed.
ATM software isn't too bad anymore. There were some funny things a long time ago, like being able to log into an atm using the default passcode and do a "dispenser test" and have it spit out cash. Or finding an atm in "demo mode" where it acted normally, but really was just reading any old card you stuck in it, and taking any pin without authorization and throwing up cash by the bucket.
As far as being ripped off, it happens very rarely. Cash dispensers are very good about determining cash thickness and throwing it to the reject bin if it suspects something funny. If you are charged 100 dollars and the atm runs out of cash at 60 after already charging your bank, they do what is called a reversal, where they re-dial into the aquirer and put the money back in your bank account. It usually takes 1-2 days for this money to go back in, but it's not the atm/aquirers fault, it's the fault of banks that hold your money for a couple days on inbound transfers so they can skim the interest.
Your exactly right. Most banks get charged ~50 cents for a non local transaction. Even balance inquiries. Since most don't pass on the cost of inquiries, and there are as many of those usually as real transactions there you have it with the dollar transaction.
Anything above 1.50 is sure income, but they also have to stock that atm with 100,000 dollars in cash that could be making money somewhere else.
Some folks in bars etc make cash like crazy though with insane 2.50+ surcharges, and daily cash restocking.
They act as a credit card by default because the card companies make more money. Most stores that have looked into it give you the pin option first (wal-mart) because they don't have to pay as much per transaction to the card companies.
The card companies have a real racket. They stick it to the consumer, the merchant, and anyone else they can think of.
No, the reason the challenge system hasn't been pushed through is because it would cost a ton to operate.
Typically the way that an ATM works is in this order.
1. Customer swipes card. 2. Customer enters pin. 3. Machine encrypts pin. 4. Machine dials out and connects to 3rd party authorization service at 300 baud. 5. Third party serivce connects to bank, authorizes/declines withdrawls if it can. 6. Machine stays on the line for 30 seconds to get a reply. 7. If there is a reply sends an ACK and spits out the cash. 7b. If the machine is only able to spit out a percentage of the requested cash (it's out of money or jammed etc), only then will it redial and do reversal of the non-dispensed cash back to the customers account.
The big thing here is speed of the transactions. The third party runs an 800 line for all those atm's to dial into. 20 more secondes per transaction at 1000 transactions a minute can spell HUGE cash losses which then trickle down to atm owners etc.
It would take legislation to require this, otherwise whoever doesn't do it will be able to charge less to the atm owners per transaction, and will get most of the business.
It took an act of congress just to get the 3rd party authorization services to upgrade to DES3. (more data, more time)
I don't see how the states could tax internet transactions anyways. Isn't that part of the fundamental way our government is set up, so that states cannot levy taxes upon cargo from other states? If they could states like Oklahoma could really rake it in for things going through their state from Texas to Kansas.
Man I wish I hadn't slept through government class on that subject now.
If you get rid of GCC on SCO, then you get rid of a cross platform migration utility.
Oh, and I'm forced to use SCO at work because of a ton of legacy code and proprietary applications that SA refuses to port. We hate it, but what are you going to do? The cogs grind slowly:).
In direct contributions yes, however lets say a pac wants to donate 4 million dollars. All they have to do is spend the money themselves on billboards, buttons, radio ads. That's why you see advertisements during election time saying thigns at the end like "Paid for by the Groundhogs Are Good committee". The PAC can spend as much as it damn well wants on a candidate, it just can't hand him the fat ball of sweaty cash directly. It's the same effect though.
The Supreme Court has already rules that loophole will remain open in regards to the first amendment.
when you point out the illiteracy of an article? This guy is a purported author, but he can't seem to grasp simple grammar. His concepts are sound for what could be an entertaining book, if his proofreaders don't shoot him first.
But what the hell to use as building material
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Do they expect you to go around smashing up cash registers,soldering all that shit together with coat hanger wire, and then use burning bras from Victoria's Secret for fuel?
Maybe they can just use some of the hot air from the jewelry stores instead of burning undergarments.
Build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. Light a man on fire and he will be warm the rest of his life.
Don't you hate it when you respond to the wrong fucking article lol. I wish I had mozilla on this work machine, not having tabbed browsing is complicated:P.
I hope he didn't run out of books due to the/. before I got my order in:). I don't own an X-Box, but from the samples it looks like some very interesting stuff.
Fuck you for tricking me into pre purchasing NWN a year ago because you said it would support Linux then.
Fuck you for using the linux community (including me) to host servers for you because you were planning on "supporting linux".
Fuck you for forcing me to boot to windows to play your buggy beyond belief game.
Fuck you for forcing me to leave a "play" pirate proofing cd key in the drive while playing, which caused me all sorts of problems because I was lucky enough to have one of the many types of cdroms that your pirate proofing cd wouldn't work with. I had to download the pirated executeable off the net just to play my legit game, then I was crippled to do anything with legitimate installations.
Fuck you for putting the cd key on the inside of the manual which I threw away while cleaning my room 6 months ago. At least I can't install the game again if I ever feel like being punished for being a customer of yours again.
I'm sure this will be modded as a troll, but it's the truth. While the game had a ton of strong points, they make the end user jump so many hurdles and lies to use it it's just not worth ever dealing with them again.
P.S. Oh yea, fuck you for releasing a game with a bug that wouldn't let me get past level one with my character without waiting weeks for a patch.
I know most people think it is silly, but I was using GNU software a long time before I used GNU/Linux. If I am only talking about something related to the Kernel then I will say Linux. However, I use Linux through GNU/Gnome, edit my homework with KDE/Kdevelop, compile that homework with GNU/g++, browse the web using Mozilla, and do word processing with OpenOffice. I can do all of those things without linux, or run linux with none of the other. It's not really fair to say I use Linux. I use GNU copylefted software through linux. Hence GNU/Linux makes perfect sense to me, the same way millions of people say their operating system is AOL because that is the only thing they see:). I would never press anyone else to say it though, that's just assinine:).
The wierdest thing happened today. My father picked up an el-cheapo computer I built for a relative from me, and asked about linux. I was floored. My father is intelligent when it comes to many things, but is not computer savvy. You guys will probably flame me for this, but my father wants to try linux because he can't pirate XP easily. However, his company buys a ton of software based on his recommendations (based upon mine), so his decision usually ends up filling Microsoft's coffers a fair amount. I like the idea because I can ssh into his machine and fix something if it breaks, and I don't have to worry about all the damn viruses, key loggers, and spyware he seems to collect like a bee collects pollen just through regular email correspondance.
When I hear people bitching about the new direction Microsoft is going with anti privacy and anti piracy I rejoice, and wish them to go further. All it does is push more people into a free operating system such as BSD or GNU/linux.
Electronic Arts today launches what they are hoping will be the WarCraft 3 killa.
Umm.. I thought Warcraft 3 already killed itself. Maybe I'm just getting too old now, but EVERYONE played the original it seems, but everyone I've talked to that I know hated 3. That's the nice thing about piracy. Everyone I knew back in the day pirated Warcraft, then went out and bought it because it rocked, but if people pirate a game they don't like they won't buy it.
Now, if they wanted to try and kill something I would suggest going after MOO, but then again this is EA(Electronic Assoles) we are talking about, so it may be good that they set their expectations low;).
Right now most IT companies that my friends work for, and mine as well are really putting the screws to the employees. Our company is demanding more work, giving scanty raises, and lowering our benefits. Unfortunately I live in Texas which is traditionally a state that favors the employer heavily. Good luck with your OT issue, but if it was me right now I would probably just lay low being the heartless coward I am:). I know that even if you win you will probably lose your job for not turning off the lights when you leave or something stupid like that. If I were you I would just take the screwing they are giving you, keep track of your hours, and if you ever get fired or quit then sue for back pay and take the nice fat bonus at the end:).
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Diebold makes shitty atm's in my opinion. I think they make machines that fall apart and malfunction very easy so that they can charge financial institutions out the wazoo for overpriced service. I prefer Triton, Tidel, Siemens, and Cross Minibank machines. However, if you want a machine that you can sink into concrete and be pretty sure nobody is going to hook up to it with a tow truck and rip it out, then a Diebold or NCR is pretty much your only choice.
As for machines getting slower (mentioned previously), it really depends on how the atm is connected to the aquirance system. If they are like most dial ups then they connect at around 300-1200 baud, and it takes no more than 30 seconds to dial and get an approval, but that's not including dispense time etc. Dial up machines are probably where you are noticing the slowdown, especially if that machine has a really crappy phone line and has to dial multiple times. Most that are on leased lines (yea a lot of atm's still use those) are quicker, and a lot of machines are switching to use cellular and ip based communications. I know 300 baud sounds silly, but it's extremely stable, and you are only transmitting a small amount of encrypted information. Also retrains would actually take more time to connect than the 300 baud would actually send and recieve everything it needed.
ATM software isn't too bad anymore. There were some funny things a long time ago, like being able to log into an atm using the default passcode and do a "dispenser test" and have it spit out cash. Or finding an atm in "demo mode" where it acted normally, but really was just reading any old card you stuck in it, and taking any pin without authorization and throwing up cash by the bucket. As far as being ripped off, it happens very rarely. Cash dispensers are very good about determining cash thickness and throwing it to the reject bin if it suspects something funny. If you are charged 100 dollars and the atm runs out of cash at 60 after already charging your bank, they do what is called a reversal, where they re-dial into the aquirer and put the money back in your bank account. It usually takes 1-2 days for this money to go back in, but it's not the atm/aquirers fault, it's the fault of banks that hold your money for a couple days on inbound transfers so they can skim the interest.
Where I work we have an NCR machine that is running UT.
Of course it was shipped to our programmers for vendor certification...
PASSED!
Yes, the AC poster is most likely in for a meeting with the black suits, and rightly so. In the USA we vote someone out of power, we don't put a bullet in them.
BTW, they will get the logs from OSDN, they will show up where you work, they will give you an interview on why you are plotting an assasination, and I don't think they will be in the wrong.
Now with actual working link!
http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~fischeni/ resource.html
Your exactly right. Most banks get charged ~50 cents for a non local transaction. Even balance inquiries. Since most don't pass on the cost of inquiries, and there are as many of those usually as real transactions there you have it with the dollar transaction. Anything above 1.50 is sure income, but they also have to stock that atm with 100,000 dollars in cash that could be making money somewhere else. Some folks in bars etc make cash like crazy though with insane 2.50+ surcharges, and daily cash restocking.
They act as a credit card by default because the card companies make more money. Most stores that have looked into it give you the pin option first (wal-mart) because they don't have to pay as much per transaction to the card companies. The card companies have a real racket. They stick it to the consumer, the merchant, and anyone else they can think of.
No, the reason the challenge system hasn't been pushed through is because it would cost a ton to operate.
Typically the way that an ATM works is in this order.
1. Customer swipes card.
2. Customer enters pin.
3. Machine encrypts pin.
4. Machine dials out and connects to 3rd party authorization service at 300 baud.
5. Third party serivce connects to bank, authorizes/declines withdrawls if it can.
6. Machine stays on the line for 30 seconds to get a reply.
7. If there is a reply sends an ACK and spits out the cash.
7b. If the machine is only able to spit out a percentage of the requested cash (it's out of money or jammed etc), only then will it redial and do reversal of the non-dispensed cash back to the customers account.
The big thing here is speed of the transactions. The third party runs an 800 line for all those atm's to dial into. 20 more secondes per transaction at 1000 transactions a minute can spell HUGE cash losses which then trickle down to atm owners etc.
It would take legislation to require this, otherwise whoever doesn't do it will be able to charge less to the atm owners per transaction, and will get most of the business.
It took an act of congress just to get the 3rd party authorization services to upgrade to DES3. (more data, more time)
I don't see how the states could tax internet transactions anyways. Isn't that part of the fundamental way our government is set up, so that states cannot levy taxes upon cargo from other states? If they could states like Oklahoma could really rake it in for things going through their state from Texas to Kansas. Man I wish I hadn't slept through government class on that subject now.
Before Zaphod Beeblebrox steals it!
If you get rid of GCC on SCO, then you get rid of a cross platform migration utility.
:).
Oh, and I'm forced to use SCO at work because of a ton of legacy code and proprietary applications that SA refuses to port. We hate it, but what are you going to do? The cogs grind slowly
In direct contributions yes, however lets say a pac wants to donate 4 million dollars. All they have to do is spend the money themselves on billboards, buttons, radio ads. That's why you see advertisements during election time saying thigns at the end like "Paid for by the Groundhogs Are Good committee". The PAC can spend as much as it damn well wants on a candidate, it just can't hand him the fat ball of sweaty cash directly. It's the same effect though.
The Supreme Court has already rules that loophole will remain open in regards to the first amendment.
when you point out the illiteracy of an article? This guy is a purported author, but he can't seem to grasp simple grammar. His concepts are sound for what could be an entertaining book, if his proofreaders don't shoot him first.
Do they expect you to go around smashing up cash registers,soldering all that shit together with coat hanger wire, and then use burning bras from Victoria's Secret for fuel?
Maybe they can just use some of the hot air from the jewelry stores instead of burning undergarments.
Build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day.
Light a man on fire and he will be warm the rest of his life.
Don't you hate it when you respond to the wrong fucking article lol. I wish I had mozilla on this work machine, not having tabbed browsing is complicated :P.
I hope he didn't run out of books due to the /. before I got my order in :).
I don't own an X-Box, but from the samples it looks like some very interesting stuff.
Fuck you for tricking me into pre purchasing NWN a year ago because you said it would support Linux then.
Fuck you for using the linux community (including me) to host servers for you because you were planning on "supporting linux".
Fuck you for forcing me to boot to windows to play your buggy beyond belief game.
Fuck you for forcing me to leave a "play" pirate proofing cd key in the drive while playing, which caused me all sorts of problems because I was lucky enough to have one of the many types of cdroms that your pirate proofing cd wouldn't work with. I had to download the pirated executeable off the net just to play my legit game, then I was crippled to do anything with legitimate installations.
Fuck you for putting the cd key on the inside of the manual which I threw away while cleaning my room 6 months ago. At least I can't install the game again if I ever feel like being punished for being a customer of yours again.
I'm sure this will be modded as a troll, but it's the truth. While the game had a ton of strong points, they make the end user jump so many hurdles and lies to use it it's just not worth ever dealing with them again.
P.S. Oh yea, fuck you for releasing a game with a bug that wouldn't let me get past level one with my character without waiting weeks for a patch.
RMS is right, closed source sucks.
It's a SPACE STATION!!!!
I know most people think it is silly, but I was using GNU software a long time before I used GNU/Linux. If I am only talking about something related to the Kernel then I will say Linux. However, I use Linux through GNU/Gnome, edit my homework with KDE/Kdevelop, compile that homework with GNU/g++, browse the web using Mozilla, and do word processing with OpenOffice. I can do all of those things without linux, or run linux with none of the other. It's not really fair to say I use Linux. I use GNU copylefted software through linux. Hence GNU/Linux makes perfect sense to me, the same way millions of people say their operating system is AOL because that is the only thing they see :). I would never press anyone else to say it though, that's just assinine :).
The wierdest thing happened today. My father picked up an el-cheapo computer I built for a relative from me, and asked about linux. I was floored. My father is intelligent when it comes to many things, but is not computer savvy. You guys will probably flame me for this, but my father wants to try linux because he can't pirate XP easily. However, his company buys a ton of software based on his recommendations (based upon mine), so his decision usually ends up filling Microsoft's coffers a fair amount. I like the idea because I can ssh into his machine and fix something if it breaks, and I don't have to worry about all the damn viruses, key loggers, and spyware he seems to collect like a bee collects pollen just through regular email correspondance.
When I hear people bitching about the new direction Microsoft is going with anti privacy and anti piracy I rejoice, and wish them to go further. All it does is push more people into a free operating system such as BSD or GNU/linux.
Mmm scratch and sniff girls.
Oh wait, I think my uncle Tom has been scratch and sniff for like 15 years... Not that you would want to.
Electronic Arts today launches what they are hoping will be the WarCraft 3 killa.
;).
Umm.. I thought Warcraft 3 already killed itself. Maybe I'm just getting too old now, but EVERYONE played the original it seems, but everyone I've talked to that I know hated 3. That's the nice thing about piracy. Everyone I knew back in the day pirated Warcraft, then went out and bought it because it rocked, but if people pirate a game they don't like they won't buy it.
Now, if they wanted to try and kill something I would suggest going after MOO, but then again this is EA(Electronic Assoles) we are talking about, so it may be good that they set their expectations low
Dear god just when we though we had killed the "In Soviet Russia" jokes...
IN SOVIET RUSSIA, DEAD HORSE beats YOU!
la~~
Right now most IT companies that my friends work for, and mine as well are really putting the screws to the employees. Our company is demanding more work, giving scanty raises, and lowering our benefits. Unfortunately I live in Texas which is traditionally a state that favors the employer heavily. Good luck with your OT issue, but if it was me right now I would probably just lay low being the heartless coward I am :). I know that even if you win you will probably lose your job for not turning off the lights when you leave or something stupid like that. If I were you I would just take the screwing they are giving you, keep track of your hours, and if you ever get fired or quit then sue for back pay and take the nice fat bonus at the end :).
It's my girlfriend. Many men have tried, and to date none have been able to figure her out.
Bit pricy though.