Tack Yoshi's Island: Super Mario World 2 onto that list as well. If only for the unique graphic style it used.
Also, Mother 2 (aka Earthbound) had some neat changes to the jRPG formula (most of which haven't been seen since [to the best of my knowledge])... Trippy backgrounds, pizza delivery, "analog dial" hitpoints, auto-combat resolution against weak enemies, etc.
Yeah, and that really started with Yoshi's Island having Shy Guys (and many varients) as the main baddies. I think the jumping was solidifed by Super Mario Advance and then Super Smash Brothers Melee drove it home.
Oddly the retconned elements seem to work somehow with the core franchise.
From what I've read on Wikipedia, the All-Stars versions of Mario 1 and Lost Levels have a "floatier" jump, which I guess means there's less control of the jumping or something. I don't ever remember noticing that, but it's been a long while since I played either version, and I'm going to bet you'd have to play both side by side to actually notice something like that.
How the heck is this even considered newsworthy? I could see maybe for the new fangled generation (ie. started on the PSOne or PS2/XBox) of gamers but I don't think that applies to the majority of the/. audience.
And has been stated above, this has been common knowledge since Mario All-Stars. Not to mention that Nintendo had a small brief on the game in their "Mario Mania" hint guide for Super Mario World.
What next? A review for "Final Fantasy Plus": The US SNES version of FF5 that never got here?
I'd rather have seen a review for the cd-i mario games than this. At least those are truly obscure. *cringe*
I'm surprised THIS is newsworthy, while an updated version of "Out of this World" isn't.
I can agree to this on some level. I remember Jet Moto 2 having Mountain Dew billboards on the sides of the track, or racing games with billboards on the track walls. I remember Parasite Eve 2 had a couple of coca-cola references, notably a few soda can machines and like one item bearing the coke label (I believe it was a keychain with a coke bottle cap attatched to it).
In my mind, stuff like that is fine. It's not obtrusive or in my face. Heck, You Don't Know Jack's online game had commercial breaks for stuff on the internet, but that worked wonderfully for the game since it was a "game show" and the ads offset the hosting costs. That was a wonderful use.
What I will not agree with is stuff like the recent Counter-strike Subway mod snafu. If that's where this is heading in the long run, I will greatly enjoy avoiding any game involving advertising, and if this forces me to stop playing commercial games, then I'm quite sure I will find enough indies games to play. Otherwise, I have a nice collection of games dating back to the NES to choose from.
If the ads mean i don't have to shell out $2.50 for "armor" on my steed, I'm all for it. But we all know that they're still gonna charge $2.50 for the "armor" but it will be a unique new skin: a nice pepsi-logo slapped on the side of it.
So what happened to the Actuaries? Last year that was "THE" job to get. This year they're not even on the top 10. What happened? I guess that just shows how arbitrary these things are...
Looking at the article, Actuary drops to #24... Yet they get paid slightly more and there's less expected growth..
I guess it's cause we're heading back to a new tech boom?
Anyone remember 2-3 years ago when the Gamecube wasn't doing so hot and everyone thought Nintendo was going to go down the tubes after the DS has a lukewarm reception? Remember the articles suggesting the MS buyout of Nintendo?
Do we all remember where those rumors went?
In all fairness to Sony, like most industry rumor rags, this article completely and totally forgets to look at the other Sony divisions. Even if the PS3 is gonna tout a $500 price tag, they can probably afford to sell at a loss for a large period of time, and that really depends on how strong their launch is. For a while Sony was one of the leading manufacturers of TVs prior to the introduction of HDTVs. Sony still has a strong amount of brand name recognition that they can ride on for quite some time. Everyone here seems to forget that the average joe never knew about the Sony BMG rootkit schtick. Want proof? Try this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Sony+DRM+ 2005+site%3Acnn.com&btnG=Search Nothing on CNN. Further proof: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8& q=Sony+Rootkit&scoring=d&sa=N&start=60 No mainstream news ever really carried the story or the aftermath.
Let's also keep in mind that Sony is more about personal electronics and MS is really about software. The only convergence the two really have is SCE and Microsoft Game Studios. I could see maybe MS taking over SCE, but I don't think that'll happen.
Why does everyone think that MS is sitting on some magic pot of gold? If they have enough money to buy Sony, and Sony to me seems like the larger company (and probably has been around a lot longer), shouldn't Sony be the one buying MS?
Everyone has been telling me to get Oblivion. When I heard about the freaking horses I am seriously reconsidering taking anyone's advice on this. This is precisely what I was afraid of when Allard made his big speech last year at GDC... how micropayments and pay-for content was going to be the next big thing.
I'm sorry, but when you charge $10 more for your games and charge for trivial extras I see no reason to fall into this scheme.
Well a good portion of what they're going to have available is going to be 3rd party stuff, however if they bring over all the first party games from the first three consoles you're looking at around 150-200 games just from Nintendo. That's an awful lot of games people have to choose from on launch day, not to mention the fact that hopefully people will get to demo them before purchasing. And that's going to be a good chunk of profit for them.
Hearing about SD Cards and possible USB hard drive hook ups makes me glad. That's a smart move on their part, and hopefully it won't require some proprietary hardware that must be used (without modifications etc.)
I think that phenomena is called Laffer's Curve. Although that was in regard to how big a tax rate are people willing to accept before they stop paying their taxes or something...
Actually, I bought Mario Kart DS for $30-35. I know most of the Square-Enix GBA games have been going for $35 when they get released.
The NES Classics series was a bit pricey. And look how far that went... Japan got two sets of releases, we only got one. I wonder why. Funny though, most of the games had been re-released for the e-Reader which no one bought because it was a $50 peripheral.
I wasn't surprised at all when I saw the Xbox 360 games shooting up in price. When they announced that they were going to have downloadable content (for a minimal cost) I really wanted to believe that they were going to do that in addition to the then standard $50 price tag I associated with most games. Now I'm seeing that games are hitting $60 (Quake 4 for XBox 360 yet the PC Deluxe version was $50 and included Quake 2... you do the math) and there's still going to be pay-for content online? Throw a new HDTV on to that along with the cost of the console and you have probably the most expensive console gaming area setup ever (at least until the PS3 comes along).
I know the industry is in a flux stage and is trying to find ways to recoup costs on large budget games, but $60+ price tag for games is not the way to go. Especially when the core audience is teenage and college age males.
Well let's see. First, you're reading the game off a physical optical disc and not just a ROM bank on a chip in a board. Second, the PS is emulating so you're gonna lose performance to the overhead, not to mention the PS was designed and optimized for 3D.
I really think the problem with Ghost is that they know that it isn't going to whet any Starcraft fan's appetite. On the other hand, they've invested so much (as it seems) into building this that they can't axe it like they did Warcraft Adventures.
Unfortunately, having announced this before the Xbox was originally released and now with the XBox on its way to its deathbed I'm not entirely surprised to see this getting put on hold permenantly or for the next gen depending on which story you want to believe. With it's only target platforms getting phased out at the end of the year is not a good time to release especially if you want to get anything back on a title thats been in development as long as this has.
Let's not forget that its shifted development teams twice and then brought internal when they acquired the last development studio that was working on it. Also, I believe the gameplay and style was different at every E3 it was shown at (based on reports), which doesn't help either.
Heck with Bush doing damage to the country that will take years to fix. This FCC has repeatedly mucked stuff up and will take a very long time to undo.
So I guess that means Halo 2 on PC is going to be delayed as well... They might as well be smart about it and put Halo 3 out on PC since that'll probably be out well before Vista....
I don't doubt that given the talk is "Disruptive Development" or something like that. I'm not expecting release date or technical details since a) developers have already gotten 2nd gen dev kits so tech specs seem somewhat pointless (unless they're trying to attract new devs or those sitting on the fence) and b) release date is something more geared to the e3 presentation.
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Of course there's nothing much to relate... The first two days are the Mobile Conference and Workshop days. At least that's how it was last year.
I don't expect any real big news to come out of the Keynotes from Sony, Nintendo and Wright. At least nothing that will affect consumers directly. Keep in mind this is the DEVELOPER'S Conference, so any big announcements are gonna be more developer related... like Nintendo's unveiling of the WiFi service at last year's keynote.... Although Spore was kindof the oddity... albeit thought-provoking to developers I think.
As usualy, Washington is a few months late to the party... Where the heck was the political pressure when ICANN decided not to do the.xxx domain this past year?
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Tack Yoshi's Island: Super Mario World 2 onto that list as well. If only for the unique graphic style it used.
Also, Mother 2 (aka Earthbound) had some neat changes to the jRPG formula (most of which haven't been seen since [to the best of my knowledge])... Trippy backgrounds, pizza delivery, "analog dial" hitpoints, auto-combat resolution against weak enemies, etc.
Yeah, and that really started with Yoshi's Island having Shy Guys (and many varients) as the main baddies. I think the jumping was solidifed by Super Mario Advance and then Super Smash Brothers Melee drove it home.
Oddly the retconned elements seem to work somehow with the core franchise.
From what I've read on Wikipedia, the All-Stars versions of Mario 1 and Lost Levels have a "floatier" jump, which I guess means there's less control of the jumping or something. I don't ever remember noticing that, but it's been a long while since I played either version, and I'm going to bet you'd have to play both side by side to actually notice something like that.
How the heck is this even considered newsworthy? I could see maybe for the new fangled generation (ie. started on the PSOne or PS2/XBox) of gamers but I don't think that applies to the majority of the /. audience.
And has been stated above, this has been common knowledge since Mario All-Stars. Not to mention that Nintendo had a small brief on the game in their "Mario Mania" hint guide for Super Mario World.
What next? A review for "Final Fantasy Plus": The US SNES version of FF5 that never got here?
I'd rather have seen a review for the cd-i mario games than this. At least those are truly obscure. *cringe*
I'm surprised THIS is newsworthy, while an updated version of "Out of this World" isn't.
I can agree to this on some level. I remember Jet Moto 2 having Mountain Dew billboards on the sides of the track, or racing games with billboards on the track walls. I remember Parasite Eve 2 had a couple of coca-cola references, notably a few soda can machines and like one item bearing the coke label (I believe it was a keychain with a coke bottle cap attatched to it).
In my mind, stuff like that is fine. It's not obtrusive or in my face. Heck, You Don't Know Jack's online game had commercial breaks for stuff on the internet, but that worked wonderfully for the game since it was a "game show" and the ads offset the hosting costs. That was a wonderful use.
What I will not agree with is stuff like the recent Counter-strike Subway mod snafu. If that's where this is heading in the long run, I will greatly enjoy avoiding any game involving advertising, and if this forces me to stop playing commercial games, then I'm quite sure I will find enough indies games to play. Otherwise, I have a nice collection of games dating back to the NES to choose from.
If the ads mean i don't have to shell out $2.50 for "armor" on my steed, I'm all for it. But we all know that they're still gonna charge $2.50 for the "armor" but it will be a unique new skin: a nice pepsi-logo slapped on the side of it.
"This raid dungeon brought to you by Bawls"
"This health pickup brought to you by Johnson & Johnson"
"Server update 1/1/20XX: The ingame auction house has been bought by Ebay Sotheby's"
So what happened to the Actuaries? Last year that was "THE" job to get. This year they're not even on the top 10. What happened? I guess that just shows how arbitrary these things are...
Looking at the article, Actuary drops to #24... Yet they get paid slightly more and there's less expected growth..
I guess it's cause we're heading back to a new tech boom?
Anyone remember 2-3 years ago when the Gamecube wasn't doing so hot and everyone thought Nintendo was going to go down the tubes after the DS has a lukewarm reception? Remember the articles suggesting the MS buyout of Nintendo?
+ 2005+site%3Acnn.com&btnG=Search Nothing on CNN. Further proof: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8& q=Sony+Rootkit&scoring=d&sa=N&start=60 No mainstream news ever really carried the story or the aftermath.
Do we all remember where those rumors went?
In all fairness to Sony, like most industry rumor rags, this article completely and totally forgets to look at the other Sony divisions. Even if the PS3 is gonna tout a $500 price tag, they can probably afford to sell at a loss for a large period of time, and that really depends on how strong their launch is. For a while Sony was one of the leading manufacturers of TVs prior to the introduction of HDTVs. Sony still has a strong amount of brand name recognition that they can ride on for quite some time. Everyone here seems to forget that the average joe never knew about the Sony BMG rootkit schtick. Want proof? Try this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Sony+DRM
Let's also keep in mind that Sony is more about personal electronics and MS is really about software. The only convergence the two really have is SCE and Microsoft Game Studios. I could see maybe MS taking over SCE, but I don't think that'll happen.
Why does everyone think that MS is sitting on some magic pot of gold? If they have enough money to buy Sony, and Sony to me seems like the larger company (and probably has been around a lot longer), shouldn't Sony be the one buying MS?
Anyone else find it a little ridiculous that this is on the same main page with the FTC shutting down Spammers?
Only in this country could we have one department closing down spam and another opening it up...
I thought SGI was going down the tubes at that point anyways...
I think I just heard a big freaking pin drop somewhere.
And the Sony fanboys go crazy...
Seriously, if this is true, I won't be surprised. Kuturagi has been saying for a while now that this was going to be "expensive".
This is going to prove how much people are willing to pay for their systems.
A very stark contrast to what Nintendo is saying and planning.
Everyone has been telling me to get Oblivion. When I heard about the freaking horses I am seriously reconsidering taking anyone's advice on this. This is precisely what I was afraid of when Allard made his big speech last year at GDC... how micropayments and pay-for content was going to be the next big thing.
I'm sorry, but when you charge $10 more for your games and charge for trivial extras I see no reason to fall into this scheme.
Well a good portion of what they're going to have available is going to be 3rd party stuff, however if they bring over all the first party games from the first three consoles you're looking at around 150-200 games just from Nintendo. That's an awful lot of games people have to choose from on launch day, not to mention the fact that hopefully people will get to demo them before purchasing. And that's going to be a good chunk of profit for them.
Hearing about SD Cards and possible USB hard drive hook ups makes me glad. That's a smart move on their part, and hopefully it won't require some proprietary hardware that must be used (without modifications etc.)
I think that phenomena is called Laffer's Curve. Although that was in regard to how big a tax rate are people willing to accept before they stop paying their taxes or something...
Actually, I bought Mario Kart DS for $30-35. I know most of the Square-Enix GBA games have been going for $35 when they get released.
The NES Classics series was a bit pricey. And look how far that went... Japan got two sets of releases, we only got one. I wonder why. Funny though, most of the games had been re-released for the e-Reader which no one bought because it was a $50 peripheral.
I wasn't surprised at all when I saw the Xbox 360 games shooting up in price. When they announced that they were going to have downloadable content (for a minimal cost) I really wanted to believe that they were going to do that in addition to the then standard $50 price tag I associated with most games. Now I'm seeing that games are hitting $60 (Quake 4 for XBox 360 yet the PC Deluxe version was $50 and included Quake 2... you do the math) and there's still going to be pay-for content online? Throw a new HDTV on to that along with the cost of the console and you have probably the most expensive console gaming area setup ever (at least until the PS3 comes along).
I know the industry is in a flux stage and is trying to find ways to recoup costs on large budget games, but $60+ price tag for games is not the way to go. Especially when the core audience is teenage and college age males.
Well let's see. First, you're reading the game off a physical optical disc and not just a ROM bank on a chip in a board. Second, the PS is emulating so you're gonna lose performance to the overhead, not to mention the PS was designed and optimized for 3D.
I really think the problem with Ghost is that they know that it isn't going to whet any Starcraft fan's appetite. On the other hand, they've invested so much (as it seems) into building this that they can't axe it like they did Warcraft Adventures.
Unfortunately, having announced this before the Xbox was originally released and now with the XBox on its way to its deathbed I'm not entirely surprised to see this getting put on hold permenantly or for the next gen depending on which story you want to believe. With it's only target platforms getting phased out at the end of the year is not a good time to release especially if you want to get anything back on a title thats been in development as long as this has.
Let's not forget that its shifted development teams twice and then brought internal when they acquired the last development studio that was working on it. Also, I believe the gameplay and style was different at every E3 it was shown at (based on reports), which doesn't help either.
Sadly, the name is quite fitting now.
Heck with Bush doing damage to the country that will take years to fix. This FCC has repeatedly mucked stuff up and will take a very long time to undo.
Totally insane.
So I guess that means Halo 2 on PC is going to be delayed as well... They might as well be smart about it and put Halo 3 out on PC since that'll probably be out well before Vista....
I don't doubt that given the talk is "Disruptive Development" or something like that. I'm not expecting release date or technical details since a) developers have already gotten 2nd gen dev kits so tech specs seem somewhat pointless (unless they're trying to attract new devs or those sitting on the fence) and b) release date is something more geared to the e3 presentation.
Of course there's nothing much to relate... The first two days are the Mobile Conference and Workshop days. At least that's how it was last year.
I don't expect any real big news to come out of the Keynotes from Sony, Nintendo and Wright. At least nothing that will affect consumers directly. Keep in mind this is the DEVELOPER'S Conference, so any big announcements are gonna be more developer related... like Nintendo's unveiling of the WiFi service at last year's keynote.... Although Spore was kindof the oddity... albeit thought-provoking to developers I think.
As usualy, Washington is a few months late to the party... Where the heck was the political pressure when ICANN decided not to do the .xxx domain this past year?