I asked him what would happen if an email intended for the "dark side inbox" somehow landed in the "light side inbox" (his words, not mine). He said guys in dark sunglasses would be there shortly thereafter.:)
As far as I know most _secret_ networks are physically cut of from other "unsafe" networks.
This way email (as in your example) never gets out in the wild. Mailing something to the wrong person involves physical alterations to the system (like plugging in a network cable) and never happens just by a typo. If the event of a mishap however, the person responible will have a few questions to answer from the guys in sunglasses, as well as the recipient. (read. was it gross incompetence or treason?)
I agree. But voluntarily (RFC) prioritizing net traffic for government needs seems stupid for other reasons too. If guaranteed bandwidth is vital, then they should build the necessary physical infrastructure and dedicate it to government only. This is the only way to be sure they got bandwidth when they need it!
If they don't need the bandwidth guarantee bad enought to make this investment they don't need it bad enought at all.
No half assed compromises please!
I know for a fact that some non-US governments build dedicated lines where communications are critical.
Why not the US?
Actually, if you believe the popular idea, the government actually does get a lot of it's information from sources such as cnn. It makes sense, as the only time they would need their own news-gathering source would be for classified issues.
That sir, is a scary thought...
Probably true though.
Media isn't called the fourth power of state for nothing.
And maybe easier to buy than the other three, since it is controlled entirely by a handful of companies.
Did anyone read the Apple Grammy Acceptance speech?
... Speaking of torture, how about that speech by NARAS president Michael Green? But golly, aren't we all a little wiser now that Michael has enlightened us about the world wide web of theft and indifference that is threatening to put the music industry middle men out of business and let artists and their listeners communicate directly with one another? I know I am. ...
Well spoken, I must say. To bad it was cut from the broadcast... Might be just because wiewers aren't believd to be interested in "boring" acceptance speeches by non-famous people...
...or, if you are feeling cynical, it was censored by MPAA/RIAA.
Right on, but thats no reason to let bad companys get away with everything. Before you know it this is "standard practice" and all companys do it without thinking twice.
In that case you may end up with less good companys than nessecery to choose from.
Yes, JP was what you might call a benevolent dictator.
It is a shame that the "democratic" ICANN, with a huge budget still perform considerably worse than a single man did in his spare time...
And ICANN was supposed to be a step forward. But it has mostly brought politics, greed and corporatism to the net.
Some democracy on the net would be nice though, but ICANN is not it.
Well, he is not Adolf Hitler after all. A public execution might be a little overkill.
However, I would find an public explanation of certain business practices of his company very... entertaining.
Don't be so sure about Microsofts future demise...
They may not have the best OS, but they have shown us all time and time again that ruthless business methods and legions of marketroids and lawyers can beat both legislation and superior technology.
And Microsoft can afford mistakes. They have something along the lines of 36 billion $US stached away for a rainy day...
Even if they get smacked down hard by Linux, OSX, DoJ and the EU they will be a major player for decades to come.
I for one would love to see the Empire crumble... ...but I'm not holding my breath. Neither should you, unfortunately.
...because it is in Germanys interest to strengthen the privacy of it's citizens and businesses.
With the whole Echelon thing going on (and the EU has officially expressed it's concern about this. For example it is very concerned that the US government "leaks" sensitive info to corps in order to give them a competitive edge.)
So in this case it seems that the european governments has a common interest with the tin foil hat community. There is really no reason to be paranoid, and it will probably boost encryption and security concerns in european corporations, when governments actually endorse it. Do not underestimate the power of this! It is clearly a Good Thing (tm)
And if strong encryption is standard in Europa, the US will follow sooner or later...
I work for a government agency in a small european country, and I for one welcomes this. It will make my daily evangelization a lot easier.
Sure, why not...
But the point of this story is that we can't elect anyone! They want to run ICANN like a corporation, only with no owners they have to explain their decisions to.
They are taking the internet and making it their private toy, if you will.
From now on, if you want to influence something, cough up the money for a meeting in some exotic location... And maybe they'll listen, if they feel like it...
I still cant see how ICANN really needs all the funding they claim to need in order to do their job. It worked before, with less funds and less fancy meetings. And as I understand it their "core business" hasn't changed a bit.
Is this just a sellout to pay for more fancy meetings, or am I missing something fundamental.
Well, being pressurized for a week is no picnic.
Try living in a pressure chamber/diving bell a few days and see how you like it... =)
Not recommended for the claustrophobic...
And _looking_ wouldn't be hard/dangerous to do manually?
Besides, if you read my post it says:...why we need autonomous bots. I never said the sub was a fire and forget tool, but it is better than nothing, and a step on the way.
Previous repairs required four deep sea divers to spend almost a week at 700 feet pressure to fix a leaking valve.
This sounds like a really horrible experience (Working underground, in streaming, high-pressure water for a week.), not to mention dangerous.(Could have been worse though, think sewer, think high-pressure sh*t!).Good thing they have a remote controlled device for it now.
The job seems like _the_ poster-boy for why we need autonomous robots...
Only one half of ABB originates from Switzerland.
ABB was formed in a merger between ASEA (Sweden) and Brown-Boweri(Switzerland)
Of course, since it is (or at least has been) sucessful both Switzerland and Sweden claim that it is "their" company.
Latly the company has recieved much publicity due to some shady business regarding two of the ex CEO's retirement benefits (they "voluntarily" paid back $80M last week after a public flogging in the world press). They are also plagued by huge asbestos claims they inherited due to the acquisition in 1989 of the US power generation company, Combustion Engineering.
Ok, I guess I should have changed the title of my post. I might be slightly offtopic here... I am not against space travel, or the NASA.
In the long run, space exploration is the only way to increase the long term chance of survival for mankind. It is stupid to be dependant on any one planet if we don't have to.
But other than that I suppose we just have to agree that we disagree.
Ok, I can see what you mean.
But that doesn't mean that I agree with you. Let me point out a few flaws in your reasoning.
Let me get this straight. Some people are living very poor life styles. This life of theirs currently involves, among other things, having as many kids as they possibly can, regardless of the available food supply. And then you rant about how it's wrong to demand that they change in the face of the obvious need to do so.
You mean like all of us living in the west, straining the worlds resources like, 20 times more per capita than the average african?
I am not saying that they are living a sustainable lifestyle, but think about this before you accuse me of hypocrasy.
Let me ask you this. Parents are over there having too many kids and then not being able to feed them. If we come over there and do nothing but give them food, without making it clear to them why they were in this predicament in the first place, what are they going to end up with? Another generation doing the exact same thing. They either have to stop having so many kids or start growing more food. We cannot support their entire population ourselves and it is insane of you to suggest otherwise.
I agree with you that the solution is not just to give them food and money. I would suggest a fair chance of competing with us in the "free market" for a start. If the US/EU changed our protectionist policies in the areas where 3:rd
world countries could actually compete with us, maybe they could get their own economy to work.
I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.
Sorry, I am not interested in your bridge. You really shouldn't buy things like that, it is usually a scam you know... =)
Note however that im an not calling you "insane". That is bad manners, and not very mature.
People can actually have opinions that differ from your own without being insane.
Ever thought about how the ones that used to put their "insane" opponents in an asylum were mostly communist dictators?
Yeah, stupid stupid human nature...
Stupid, stupid africans who try to get enough kids surviving to adult age to care for them when they are to old to work.
Stupid, stupid people that choose to be poor, black africans when they could have choosen to be born by rich white parents in the US/EU.
And how utterly stupid of them not to be completly independent of their culture, I am sure that you would do much better than them in the same situation.
They are like us, no better, no worse. Just different context. Get it!
I shouldn't get so agitated, I guess you were just trolling anyway, fool.
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This way email (as in your example) never gets out in the wild. Mailing something to the wrong person involves physical alterations to the system (like plugging in a network cable) and never happens just by a typo.
If the event of a mishap however, the person responible will have a few questions to answer from the guys in sunglasses, as well as the recipient. (read. was it gross incompetence or treason?)
I agree. But voluntarily (RFC) prioritizing net traffic for government needs seems stupid for other reasons too. If guaranteed bandwidth is vital, then they should build the necessary physical infrastructure and dedicate it to government only. This is the only way to be sure they got bandwidth when they need it!
If they don't need the bandwidth guarantee bad enought to make this investment they don't need it bad enought at all.
No half assed compromises please!
I know for a fact that some non-US governments build dedicated lines where communications are critical.
Why not the US?
Probably true though.
Media isn't called the fourth power of state for nothing.
And maybe easier to buy than the other three, since it is controlled entirely by a handful of companies.
To bad it was cut from the broadcast...
Might be just because wiewers aren't believd to be interested in "boring" acceptance speeches by non-famous people...
If a programmer goes to hell, that is probably the kind of code he will be forced to maintain for all eternity.
In that case you may end up with less good companys than nessecery to choose from.
Yes, JP was what you might call a benevolent dictator.
It is a shame that the "democratic" ICANN, with a huge budget still perform considerably worse than a single man did in his spare time...
And ICANN was supposed to be a step forward. But it has mostly brought politics, greed and corporatism to the net.
Some democracy on the net would be nice though, but ICANN is not it.
Yes, that was my point... sarcasm and all that...
But of course! It's not yours just because you buy it!
Nooo...
Just like a music CD...
I am feeling better and better about having made the switch to linux.
At last I can actually use my OS without being a pirate/criminal/terrorist.
Well, he is not Adolf Hitler after all. A public execution might be a little overkill.
However, I would find an public explanation of certain business practices of his company very... entertaining.
I so wish they would air the Gates/Ballmer interrogation live.
That, and some popcorn would really make my day...
A wee bit more exciting than ordianry "court TV" wouldn't you say. Of course it won't happen, but it is a beautiful thought.
Don't be so sure about Microsofts future demise...
They may not have the best OS, but they have shown us all time and time again that ruthless business methods and legions of marketroids and lawyers can beat both legislation and superior technology.
And Microsoft can afford mistakes. They have something along the lines of 36 billion $US stached away for a rainy day...
Even if they get smacked down hard by Linux, OSX, DoJ and the EU they will be a major player for decades to come.
I for one would love to see the Empire crumble...
...but I'm not holding my breath.
Neither should you, unfortunately.
...because it is in Germanys interest to strengthen the privacy of it's citizens and businesses.
With the whole Echelon thing going on (and the EU has officially expressed it's concern about this. For example it is very concerned that the US government "leaks" sensitive info to corps in order to give them a competitive edge.)
So in this case it seems that the european governments has a common interest with the tin foil hat community.
There is really no reason to be paranoid, and it will probably boost encryption and security concerns in european corporations, when governments actually endorse it.
Do not underestimate the power of this! It is clearly a Good Thing (tm)
And if strong encryption is standard in Europa, the US will follow sooner or later...
I work for a government agency in a small european country, and I for one welcomes this. It will make my daily evangelization a lot easier.
Sure, why not...
But the point of this story is that we can't elect anyone!
They want to run ICANN like a corporation, only with no owners they have to explain their decisions to.
They are taking the internet and making it their private toy, if you will.
From now on, if you want to influence something, cough up the money for a meeting in some exotic location...
And maybe they'll listen, if they feel like it...
I still cant see how ICANN really needs all the funding they claim to need in order to do their job.
It worked before, with less funds and less fancy meetings.
And as I understand it their "core business" hasn't changed a bit.
Is this just a sellout to pay for more fancy meetings, or am I missing something fundamental.
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Well, being pressurized for a week is no picnic.
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And _looking_ wouldn't be hard/dangerous to do manually?
Besides, if you read my post it says:Try living in a pressure chamber/diving bell a few days and see how you like it... =)
Not recommended for the claustrophobic...
I never said the sub was a fire and forget tool, but it is better than nothing, and a step on the way.
The job seems like _the_ poster-boy for why we need autonomous robots...
Please, specify these significant computer resources you speak of.
You never know... someone here might be able to help out.
Only one half of ABB originates from Switzerland.
ABB was formed in a merger between ASEA (Sweden) and Brown-Boweri(Switzerland)
Of course, since it is (or at least has been) sucessful both Switzerland and Sweden claim that it is "their" company.
Latly the company has recieved much publicity due to some shady business regarding two of the ex CEO's retirement benefits (they "voluntarily" paid back $80M last week after a public flogging in the world press).
They are also plagued by huge asbestos claims they inherited due to the acquisition in 1989 of the US power generation company, Combustion Engineering.
Yeah, I checked the RFC.
I ended up naming my boxes after animals that are good at jumping.
Frog, Rabbit, Grashopper, etc...
Ok for a small network, but i suppose i would run out of animals long before getting to 4000 boxes =)
Not only is he in the trailer... it may be far worse...
This and this is (no joking!!!) concept art for the MMORPG Star Wars Galaxies.
Prey that nothing like that makes the final cut... Not in the film, nor in the game... ever!
Ok, I guess I should have changed the title of my post. I might be slightly offtopic here... I am not against space travel, or the NASA.
In the long run, space exploration is the only way to increase the long term chance of survival for mankind. It is stupid to be dependant on any one planet if we don't have to.
But other than that I suppose we just have to agree that we disagree.
But that doesn't mean that I agree with you. Let me point out a few flaws in your reasoning. You mean like all of us living in the west, straining the worlds resources like, 20 times more per capita than the average african?
I am not saying that they are living a sustainable lifestyle, but think about this before you accuse me of hypocrasy. I agree with you that the solution is not just to give them food and money.
I would suggest a fair chance of competing with us in the "free market" for a start. If the US/EU changed our protectionist policies in the areas where 3:rd world countries could actually compete with us, maybe they could get their own economy to work.
Sorry, I am not interested in your bridge.
You really shouldn't buy things like that, it is usually a scam you know... =)
Note however that im an not calling you "insane". That is bad manners, and not very mature.
People can actually have opinions that differ from your own without being insane.
Ever thought about how the ones that used to put their "insane" opponents in an asylum were mostly communist dictators?
For those of you that don't speak swedish, the bold part means: We all live in the Sauna!
A pretty weird name if you ask me...
Yeah, stupid stupid human nature...
Stupid, stupid africans who try to get enough kids surviving to adult age to care for them when they are to old to work.
Stupid, stupid people that choose to be poor, black africans when they could have choosen to be born by rich white parents in the US/EU.
And how utterly stupid of them not to be completly independent of their culture, I am sure that you would do much better than them in the same situation.
They are like us, no better, no worse.
Just different context.
Get it!
I shouldn't get so agitated, I guess you were just trolling anyway, fool.