The point of this is 64Bit on the desktop, where IMHO register/databus size is more important than address bus size.
The 36Bit address bus of the G4 and Xeon cpu is probably enough for desktop/workstations giving 64Gigs of addressable ram.
The 'average' user doesn't run huge databases nor have requirements for >4gig working sets, thats not to say they wont in the future. At the moment however, they do have a requirement for processing larger chunks of data in one go - think image editing, movie processing, mp3 encoding, all could be accelerated with more register bits available to process that data, (as I've already said IA32 and PPC G4(MPX bus) cpus already have 64bit data buses)
The rapid acceptance of SIMD instructions is a testament to this, proving if you provide more horsepower to a CPU people will find a use for it. Quite rapidly too.
you do realise its not just about the address bus, but about the register size and databus which are much more important (in terms of both large calculations done in a single instruction and the amount of data that the cpu can fetch from memory in one go)
I know Pentiums and PowerPC (MPX) have 64Bit Data buses, and the G4 has a 36Bit (64Gig of ram) address bus.
But when they talk about 64Bit CPUs' they aren't talking about address busses.
why do we need a WIN32 compatibility layer, you can get roughly the same effect by randomly dragging a piece of copper wire across the main circuit board.
The fact you are still here to post to us about the timetravelfund is a testement to its failure...
I wish I could be there during the final moments of your life to watch you come to the realization that you have just contributed to putting the webmasters grandchildren through college.
Hey, maybe I'll start a fund for that... I can wait 500 years....
I use my PC at 1280x768(native res of the screen) on my 50inch Pioneer PDP-50 for playing games all the time. And I only paid £5000 for it over a year ago.
yes, and life becomes terribly boring, give me meat booze, drugs and staying out all night any day over not having any pleasures in life and living untill 90 when you're too old and too tired to do any of the things you wished you'd done as a youth.
I agree with you on the exercise though, there are too many overweight overfed people around today. Many of them would be a lot better off if they even just walked to work for example.
I think you'll find its because Real are being beaten into submission by microsoft. And quite frankly there is no market for them, between Apples QuickTime and microsofts DirectShow architectures there is no need for an additional '3rd party to the operating system' media layer, that suffers from terrible bugs, and general slowness.
For windows, microsoft makes a lot of the DirectShow code available to developers, as does Apple, Real have been forced into this position by the fact they have an inferior product.
If flash is inside my treo under cover, its obviously because ming the merciless is in there trying to take over the earth.
Now that you've let the cat out of the bag ming will find out... oh well, time to switch allegiences.
Hail Ming. Hail Ming.
(you can marry my girlfriend if you like, as long as you give me a planet or something)
Apple said, "here's what we'll do",
"We'll release OS ten point two",
"The graphics are faster",
"cos thats what you asked fer",
If they're not then I think I will sue.
Cold chips were the companies claim, Some said of them "they're insane", The chips got no colder, the investors got a tolder, your stocks worthless, oh what a shame.
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how about a `linux PS2 Kit`, where you superglue all the parts together, and paint it and stuff, like those klingon warbirds...
I fully agree and I am willing to waste any karma I may or may not have fighting for this.
Thankyou, have a nice day - except any moderators who dont mod the parent parent up....
The point of this is 64Bit on the desktop, where IMHO register/databus size is more important than address bus size.
The 36Bit address bus of the G4 and Xeon cpu is probably enough for desktop/workstations giving 64Gigs of addressable ram.
The 'average' user doesn't run huge databases nor have requirements for >4gig working sets, thats not to say they wont in the future. At the moment however, they do have a requirement for processing larger chunks of data in one go - think image editing, movie processing, mp3 encoding, all could be accelerated with more register bits available to process that data, (as I've already said IA32 and PPC G4(MPX bus) cpus already have 64bit data buses)
The rapid acceptance of SIMD instructions is a testament to this, proving if you provide more horsepower to a CPU people will find a use for it. Quite rapidly too.
you do realise its not just about the address bus, but about the register size and databus which are much more important (in terms of both large calculations done in a single instruction and the amount of data that the cpu can fetch from memory in one go) I know Pentiums and PowerPC (MPX) have 64Bit Data buses, and the G4 has a 36Bit (64Gig of ram) address bus. But when they talk about 64Bit CPUs' they aren't talking about address busses.
I dont think Scioworks would be happy with them using that name...
maybe they should pick another one....
do you have any idea of the effect those greasetraps will have on the local marine population? you'd be better off firing them into the sun...
why do we need a WIN32 compatibility layer, you can get roughly the same effect by randomly dragging a piece of copper wire across the main circuit board.
You also avoid those nasty licencing issues.
it means an adornment for the posterior.
ass hat!
I'm an apple picker, my job does grow on trees you insensitive bastard.
The fact you are still here to post to us about the timetravelfund is a testement to its failure...
I wish I could be there during the final moments of your life to watch you come to the realization that you have just contributed to putting the webmasters grandchildren through college.
Hey, maybe I'll start a fund for that... I can wait 500 years....
yes it does, at least in Jaguar, and not only that you can specify what kind of fullscreen you want, stretched/constrained/res etc...
I use my PC at 1280x768(native res of the screen) on my 50inch Pioneer PDP-50 for playing games all the time. And I only paid £5000 for it over a year ago.
YES!
These animals have no soul, thats why!
yes, and life becomes terribly boring, give me meat booze, drugs and staying out all night any day over not having any pleasures in life and living untill 90 when you're too old and too tired to do any of the things you wished you'd done as a youth. I agree with you on the exercise though, there are too many overweight overfed people around today. Many of them would be a lot better off if they even just walked to work for example.
Is there a criminal using this computer?
Are you sure?
I think you'll find its because Real are being beaten into submission by microsoft. And quite frankly there is no market for them, between Apples QuickTime and microsofts DirectShow architectures there is no need for an additional '3rd party to the operating system' media layer, that suffers from terrible bugs, and general slowness.
For windows, microsoft makes a lot of the DirectShow code available to developers, as does Apple, Real have been forced into this position by the fact they have an inferior product.
I think I ate an antimatter burrito once, because it did the exact opposite of eating roughly 30 minutes after ingesting it.
sounds like a good night out
even before that, jet set willy had a table look up where you had to enter 4 different colour codes to play the game....
:)
of course copying a game back then was as simple as using a tape to tape
I think the only way we'll see intel inside apple computers is if they decide to fab G4/G5 processors....
If flash is inside my treo under cover, its obviously because ming the merciless is in there trying to take over the earth. Now that you've let the cat out of the bag ming will find out... oh well, time to switch allegiences. Hail Ming. Hail Ming. (you can marry my girlfriend if you like, as long as you give me a planet or something)
They also relied on dodgy copies of the concorde blueprint bought from the chinese.
A total recepie for disaster.
you missed out the part where you need two RIMM's because of its dual channel architecture. therefore you should multiply all your RDRam figures by 2.
Apple said, "here's what we'll do", "We'll release OS ten point two", "The graphics are faster", "cos thats what you asked fer", If they're not then I think I will sue.
Cold chips were the companies claim,
Some said of them "they're insane",
The chips got no colder,
the investors got a tolder,
your stocks worthless, oh what a shame.