The one advantage the movie industry has with piracy is the fact that to really enjoy a movie like The Matrix - you gotta go see it on the BIG screen with Dolby/THX at bone crushing volume
Try doing that at home without the wife ripping your head off...
Gotta week/month/year to kill? Try blocking instant messenger clients or streaming audio
What I have done in the past is force all clients to use internal DNS servers (easy enough to do) - then I set up dummy entries for the commonly refernced DNS requests that the aforementioned malware uses
There is also a tendancy to want to route thru a PIX and to use Routers as firewalls - Neither is a good idea and in the case of the PIX, its impossible to route - even though it seems like it should.
It's fun to to go down memory lane sometimes - remember....
"OMFG! The Network is Beaconing! The Network is Beaconing!"
Ahhh the good old days.... you know when one old piece of shit Broken Ring NIC that decides to take a header- could bring a Fortune 500 company to its knees....
I read them the riot act about this via email. I finally recieved this reply today..
Dear Valued Customer:
In response to your comments on the implementation of product activation technology in tax year 2002 TurboTax® software, I wanted to let you know that Intuit will discontinue product activation in next year's TurboTax desktop products purchased at retail or direct from Intuit.
We are absolutely committed to listening and learning from our customers. We clearly need to better understand all of our customers' tax preparation needs and how they use TurboTax.
While we remain committed to protecting our intellectual property, going forward, we will only introduce digital rights management technologies that maximize customer experience and preserve customer satisfaction. Again, thanks for your feedback.
Regards, Tom Allanson, Sr. Vice President TurboTax
Well - they saved me as a paying and happy customer!
After reading this thread - one thing came to mind: If you do decide to lay fiber - go for it all!
I mean - you could co-op everything - High Speed Internet, Cable TV and Phone for that matter.
While wireless can offer a low-cost solution, it has many potential problems across a geographic area.
The most effective means of distributing high speed access would definitely be to lay fiber. I mean if you decide to dig up the ground, don't screw around with copper this would severely limit you.
Fiber would allow you to really leverage the investment of hacking up that ground - Internet would be easy, a couple of T1's multilinked together and some smart allocations of a class C of public numbers and your off and running (a T3 would be total overkill IMHO).
But you can leverage this investment to allow delivery of Telco service as well.
You could simply order up an ISDN PRI or two and a block of about 300 DID numbers. The best part is that at this level of service - you can get an incredible amount of competition. All calls anywhere for under 2 cents/minute any time - and I mean ANYWHERE and WHENEVER - Free of course within the Co-Op
I recommend using this product from Sphere (www.spherecom.com) I just got certified on this product and am completely AMPed about it. It is a pure IP VOIP product that delivers the station end as regular analog phones. So customers need nothing special at their end.
If you model your distribution method after the Bells model of hubs to CO's etc. - you could really do something very cool here.
How does it cost the ISP more if multiple people share a broadband line? Where is the additional expense to the ISP that needs to be covered?
Go ahead let them screw their customer base over - sure that'll work! - Good plan!
And another thing... do you know how stupid it is to directly connect your box to that cable/dsl modem thing with out at least hiding behind some kind of NAT?
Go ahead and try it - be sure to run BlackICE or something so you can count how many times you get portscanned in an hour..
If we could get any of these, we could have some serious fun!
First - get his fax number into some key marketing/questionaire databases and blamo! - Fax Spam Ahoy!
Second - Setup a couple of "Faxback" server attacks on those numbers. Faxback servers are fantastic because they're realllly dumb. Call them up on an toll-free number and order up a mess of documents to be faxed to wherever you want. The best part is that they're relentless - they will just keep on calling (up to 10 times) to try to make a connection... i.e. "ring ring - 'hello, Ralsky here' - *beep* *beep* - hang up - repeat 5 minutes later"
Its mega-annoying - especially if you get a couple of them going at once - and at 3AM
But heck... we should at least be able to get this douchebag's fax number for his company - yes?
I always fealt that the easiest way for the record industry to counter this is to simply make legitimate purchase easier that p2p.
Imagine being able to walk into Best Buy (using a kiosk for the broadband impaired) or a simple web page and accomplish the following.
1) Design/burn your own music CD selected from the complete vast archives of the music biz. 2) Each song being 128k quality or better or varying based on cost 3) Each song costing anywhere between 49-99 cents each 4) Each song delivered in choice of format (.mp3 or wav etc...) 5) Provide some kind of e-receipt which you could use to re-download/burn music that you lost or damaged (eliminate need for "backup")
Then all they would need to do is promote the crap out of the service using all the money they saved from not suing the crap out of everyone.
My wee little home server o' pr0n has crapped out 2 Maxtor 40gb'rs in the last 2 years...
To Maxtor's credit - both have been replaced relatively painlessly
The one advantage the movie industry has with piracy is the fact that to really enjoy a movie like The Matrix - you gotta go see it on the BIG screen with Dolby/THX at bone crushing volume
...
Try doing that at home without the wife ripping your head off
Thx Bro -
Yeah - there is no easy way to block that shit -
Gotta week/month/year to kill? Try blocking instant messenger clients or streaming audio
What I have done in the past is force all clients to use internal DNS servers (easy enough to do) - then I set up dummy entries for the commonly refernced DNS requests that the aforementioned malware uses
It's a long list - but it can be done.
I'm just curious what you used to block p2p.
My experince has been that you can't simply block certain TCP ports because alot of the clients automatically reconfig themselves for port 80.
Did you use a layer 4 analyzer/blocker thingy?
Jesus - take your meds bitch ....
Allow me to clarify ....
I was refering to the CLI -
There is also a tendancy to want to route thru a PIX and to use Routers as firewalls - Neither is a good idea and in the case of the PIX, its impossible to route - even though it seems like it should.
Allways remember - (re:CLI)
A PIX (Firewall) is not a Router and a Router is not a PIX
This little morsel of knowledge still eludes me continuously in my day to day work in this field.
It's fun to to go down memory lane sometimes - remember ....
.... you know when one old piece of shit Broken Ring NIC that decides to take a header- could bring a Fortune 500 company to its knees ....
"OMFG! The Network is Beaconing! The Network is Beaconing!"
Ahhh the good old days
Frankly - ArcNet was better!
Ha! Those are for pussys!
I've got 10MB ESDI Drives! - Yup, straight from a PS/2 Model 60
The shear weight of these things is awesome - they're about 50lbs each (5lbs per MB)
Back in the day - IBM made everything to survive WWIII
These will make some serious electricity
I read them the riot act about this via email. I finally recieved this reply today ..
Dear Valued Customer:
In response to your comments on the implementation of product activation technology in tax year 2002 TurboTax® software, I wanted to let you know that Intuit will discontinue product activation in next year's TurboTax desktop products purchased at retail or direct from Intuit.
We are absolutely committed to listening and learning from our customers. We clearly need to better understand all of our customers' tax preparation needs and how they use TurboTax.
While we remain committed to protecting our intellectual property, going forward, we will only introduce digital rights management technologies that maximize customer experience and preserve customer satisfaction.
Again, thanks for your feedback.
Regards,
Tom Allanson, Sr. Vice President
TurboTax
Well - they saved me as a paying and happy customer!
After reading this thread - one thing came to mind: If you do decide to lay fiber - go for it all!
I mean - you could co-op everything - High Speed Internet, Cable TV and Phone for that matter.
While wireless can offer a low-cost solution, it has many potential problems across a geographic area.
The most effective means of distributing high speed access would definitely be to lay fiber. I mean if you decide to dig up the ground, don't screw around with copper this would severely limit you.
Fiber would allow you to really leverage the investment of hacking up that ground - Internet would be easy, a couple of T1's multilinked together and some smart allocations of a class C of public numbers and your off and running (a T3 would be total overkill IMHO).
But you can leverage this investment to allow delivery of Telco service as well.
You could simply order up an ISDN PRI or two and a block of about 300 DID numbers. The best part is that at this level of service - you can get an incredible amount of competition. All calls anywhere for under 2 cents/minute any time - and I mean ANYWHERE and WHENEVER - Free of course within the Co-Op
I recommend using this product from Sphere (www.spherecom.com) I just got certified on this product and am completely AMPed about it. It is a pure IP VOIP product that delivers the station end as regular analog phones. So customers need nothing special at their end.
If you model your distribution method after the Bells model of hubs to CO's etc. - you could really do something very cool here.
When you give people freedom and liberty to use things like the Internet - you just dont know what they're gonna do with it ...
You know - like - create self-organizing p2p networks and then trade files with it.
How does it cost the ISP more if multiple people share a broadband line? Where is the additional expense to the ISP that needs to be covered?
... do you know how stupid it is to directly connect your box to that cable/dsl modem thing with out at least hiding behind some kind of NAT?
..
Go ahead let them screw their customer base over - sure that'll work! - Good plan!
And another thing
Go ahead and try it - be sure to run BlackICE or something so you can count how many times you get portscanned in an hour
A Gig link to the net - with 5000 users? Thats got to be a smokin LAN ....
If we could get any of these, we could have some serious fun!
... i.e. "ring ring - 'hello, Ralsky here' - *beep* *beep* - hang up - repeat 5 minutes later"
... we should at least be able to get this douchebag's fax number for his company - yes?
First - get his fax number into some key marketing/questionaire databases and blamo! - Fax Spam Ahoy!
Second - Setup a couple of "Faxback" server attacks on those numbers. Faxback servers are fantastic because they're realllly dumb. Call them up on an toll-free number and order up a mess of documents to be faxed to wherever you want. The best part is that they're relentless - they will just keep on calling (up to 10 times) to try to make a connection
Its mega-annoying - especially if you get a couple of them going at once - and at 3AM
But heck
Ummm - so you feel that the government is some kind of inteligent entity which can somehow discern these sorts of things - yes?
Oh - and that government is typically proactive instead of reactive...
"Snatch" starring Brad Pitt and Dennis Farina
I don't know the name of the actor who played "Bricktop" - but he was pretty fucking scary.
This movie has everything - especially lots and lots of good old fashioned movie violence and some of the best R-Rated dialog ever.
I liken it to another fav of mine - "Midnight Run" with Deniro, Charles Grodin and Dennis Fucking Farina.
If your scanning the movie channels at see this on - dont miss it - you wont regret it
Thats the problem - when you give people Freedom and Liberty - you just don't know what they're going to do with it.
Like - invent p2p networks and then trade files with it.
WI-FrIed?
this is what Microsloth means by "inovation"
What about people like me who get all their pr0n from KazzaLite? You know, all those totally free high quality video clips that anyone can get?
... for religous reasons ..
What am I supposed to do if I want my privacy invaded? You know
What? - weren't they killed by the BIGGEST killer of all?
..... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Global Warming!
I always fealt that the easiest way for the record industry to counter this is to simply make legitimate purchase easier that p2p.
Imagine being able to walk into Best Buy (using a kiosk for the broadband impaired) or a simple web page and accomplish the following.
1) Design/burn your own music CD selected from the complete vast archives of the music biz.
2) Each song being 128k quality or better or varying based on cost
3) Each song costing anywhere between 49-99 cents each
4) Each song delivered in choice of format (.mp3 or wav etc...)
5) Provide some kind of e-receipt which you could use to re-download/burn music that you lost or damaged (eliminate need for "backup")
Then all they would need to do is promote the crap out of the service using all the money they saved from not suing the crap out of everyone.
Cow Manure --> Electricity --> Profit!
I'll do anything to get back at those pricks for writing to my boot sector...including the enrichment of lawyers.