I think we all knew that Apple *would* pull it off, the reason is apple has a cult following that will buy any stupid product they put out. Only Nixon could go to china, and only apple can sell electronics for 30% above market value.
I did most of my coursework from 1998-2002, I think I was the second to last class who graduated before the "new" requirements that made things alot easier. But I think my actual graduation date ~2003 due to a paperwork snafu.
I agree the TA's were a complete disaster. They were always some chinese assfuck who barely spoke english and didn't understand the coursework. Lemme tell you why to -- I worked in the vislab at UCR with alot of chinese folks and got to know their nobilities and foibles pretty well. The US education model is a "well rounded" education, you learn a little bit about everything and alot about one thing. When we take a test, our concept is that the test should represent some cross section of our entire knowledge of the subject, and the test will accurately gauge our knowledge of the subject (obviously theres some flaws there, but its the best we have). The chinese who come here are gaming the system. They study to beat tests, thats why they get straight A's and yet know nothing. They are "min/maxing" or "munchkins". I met a guy who had passed the java certs who had never ever written a java program in his life. It turns our western "test" system is vulnerable to manipulation in this way.
That being said, most of the difficult coursework is in the upper division, ee120a/b, cs181, cs182 ate my lunch. CS153 was supposed to be really hard (system architecture) but my instructor was a softy so it was cake. I took that Unix admin course to, and got a C+, which was a total insult because I WAS A UNIX ADMIN AT UCR AT THE TIME.
How many of your CS major friends have jobs though?:)
Im glad you agree:) I have a million horror stories like that. Another favorite was from a friend of mine -- a coworker had been assigned a task to be written in VB (I think -- this was a long time ago), and said coworker asked him "VB doesn't support the ++ operator, how would you add 1 to a variable?"
I went to UC Riverside where CS is taught as an engineering major -- that means you have to do a full course of engineering, single/mutlivariable calc, statistics, differentials, physics, chem, EE, materials, statics, we designed processors, we wrote compilers, wrote an NNTP client/server, we did everything. In fact, you weren't allowed to take CS10 (C language) without a semester of calculus! Not a glamor school, but a good solid education.
It was insanely difficult, and as an experienced programmer whose contributed significantly to several major OS project and started two of his own, I nearly drowned. The graduation rate was 30%. Even then a lot of people who could only be described as dildos made it through.
I was *appalled* one day when a friend called me from la sierra university down the street, he was having trouble with one of his assignments, "Did I have a minute?" His assignment -- write a program that converted Celsius to Fahrenheit. Specifically, he was stuck on the algebra of the situation. He didn't understand the equation 9/5x+32.
That being said, these corporations are full of shit, these people are quickly weeded out. Look through the smoke screen. There is a pool of talented engineers working at Walmart and living with their parents, if they're having trouble finding them they aren't looking.
Can even linux make an HP computer stable? At my last place of employment my boss *insisted* on purchasing only HP computers and my god were they bad. Motherboard components seemed to fail randomly. My personal machine was a 1.8ghz p4 (fast at the time) with SDRAM. I remember one day the sound stopped working while I was playing an MP3 and it never worked again -- ever.
Whatever system allows the *freedom* consumers want, will end up being what is adopted. I dont want to be told how/when/where I can watch my media, and thats all these companies want to do.
You should filter reserved filenames as well, com1, com2, lpt1, etc. sending an attachment with any of these names will hose outlook (ask me how I found out:)
Yea what part of 50,000k a year is unreasonable when it costs 25k to GET the education to do the job, and when the MEDIAN cost of a house in San Diego is 400000k a year? (There was an article about it in todays press enterprise)
You know what the funny part is, I had to goto college to be a programmer because nobody in the states will hire you without a degree, but how many of these Russians have degrees comparable to an American education? I'm not saying they're not good programmers, they probably are. I'm just saying I doubt they're being held to the same standard as we are here. In a lot of ways a college education is the new high school education. My grandmother to the day she died bragged about finishing high school -- in her time women usually went to the 10th grade and were married off. Now with a 4 year engineering degree I'm a part of the fucking unwashed masses, and your words of comfort aren't putting a roof over my head.
This is infact pure greed, the problem with capitalism is there is very little short term reward for long term planning. Outsourcing does long term damage to the country by providing short term gains. I'd like to know what job you're in? Whatever it is I'm sure an immigrant could and would do it for half your wage. That doesn't make it right or good.
I will tell you right now how this will begin and end. Some kind of electronic "perl harbor" will take place, death and destruction will be caused by shoddy software engineering (not Russian/Indian software either, good old shitty American software). The need to develop rigorous engineering standards for software, like EVERY OTHER ENGINEERING DISCIPLINE will be painfully obvious, and those standards will be developed and practiced by American programmers. But in the meantime, this shit stinks. I have been unemployed for, coming up on, two years here and I have quite a lot of experience, and I know a lot of people in the same boat. The unemployment rate here in Southern California is like 16% (the real unemployment rate, not the rosy numbers the government publishes).
Think about it: if you have a girlfriend, how content is she going to be that you spend most of your time and money on your street machine, and your idea of a good time on Saturday night is going to the parking lot cruise at Mervyn's, then heading out to Kearny VIlla for racing?
You know you're doing something cool when your g/f says "GOD DAMNIT NOT ANOTHER ONE!?!?" and you already know what shes talking about:)
On "real time" with bill mahr he really said something that was really astute: Banks can keep track of every cent you have and owe accurately, why cant votes be held to the same standard.
You are correct my good man, java is about knowing your classes hardcore and knowing what interfaces to extend, implement, etc so your code is the most flexible.
One of the problems with OO programming is you can't always anticipate how an object might be used:) An interface you implement might be perfectly acceptable for your purposes, but there could be another interface which provides the same functionality for your software, and more functionality for another purpose of which you are not aware.
The only solution I can see is opening a special-purpose bank account for PayPal use only, and feeding it only what it needs for the transactions I authorize. Which is rather a lot of inconvenience for the convenience of one-click shopping...
My mother has about 2500 ebay transactions, (dont ask). And after getting royally phucked by paypal once the solution was pretty evident. Get a throw away bank account. She went down to the local credit union (not our normal bank), got an account, and linked that up with paypal. She only puts money in the account when she makes a purchase, and if she recieves funds she removes them. The problem is -- finding a bank that won't charge you a fortune for inactivity/low balance, etc (good bet is a credit union).
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I think we all knew that Apple *would* pull it off, the reason is apple has a cult following that will buy any stupid product they put out. Only Nixon could go to china, and only apple can sell electronics for 30% above market value.
I agree the TA's were a complete disaster. They were always some chinese assfuck who barely spoke english and didn't understand the coursework. Lemme tell you why to -- I worked in the vislab at UCR with alot of chinese folks and got to know their nobilities and foibles pretty well. The US education model is a "well rounded" education, you learn a little bit about everything and alot about one thing. When we take a test, our concept is that the test should represent some cross section of our entire knowledge of the subject, and the test will accurately gauge our knowledge of the subject (obviously theres some flaws there, but its the best we have). The chinese who come here are gaming the system. They study to beat tests, thats why they get straight A's and yet know nothing. They are "min/maxing" or "munchkins". I met a guy who had passed the java certs who had never ever written a java program in his life. It turns our western "test" system is vulnerable to manipulation in this way.
That being said, most of the difficult coursework is in the upper division, ee120a/b, cs181, cs182 ate my lunch. CS153 was supposed to be really hard (system architecture) but my instructor was a softy so it was cake. I took that Unix admin course to, and got a C+, which was a total insult because I WAS A UNIX ADMIN AT UCR AT THE TIME.
How many of your CS major friends have jobs though? :)
I don't wanna meet the programm who doesn't know the difference between an equation and an expression (again) :)
Im glad you agree :) I have a million horror stories like that. Another favorite was from a friend of mine -- a coworker had been assigned a task to be written in VB (I think -- this was a long time ago), and said coworker asked him "VB doesn't support the ++ operator, how would you add 1 to a variable?"
It was insanely difficult, and as an experienced programmer whose contributed significantly to several major OS project and started two of his own, I nearly drowned. The graduation rate was 30%. Even then a lot of people who could only be described as dildos made it through.
I was *appalled* one day when a friend called me from la sierra university down the street, he was having trouble with one of his assignments, "Did I have a minute?" His assignment -- write a program that converted Celsius to Fahrenheit. Specifically, he was stuck on the algebra of the situation. He didn't understand the equation 9/5x+32.
That being said, these corporations are full of shit, these people are quickly weeded out. Look through the smoke screen. There is a pool of talented engineers working at Walmart and living with their parents, if they're having trouble finding them they aren't looking.
Young enough to have owned a vic-20 and a sinclair 1000 :)
Can even linux make an HP computer stable? At my last place of employment my boss *insisted* on purchasing only HP computers and my god were they bad. Motherboard components seemed to fail randomly. My personal machine was a 1.8ghz p4 (fast at the time) with SDRAM. I remember one day the sound stopped working while I was playing an MP3 and it never worked again -- ever.
You know what the funny thing is, most Americans think American laws and policies are too fucked up to live. Its just really hard to change things.
Hello my new friend :) Wish I had mod points
Aren't clarinets made of a very rare wood that only grows in africa and india, and takes decades to mature?
Whatever system allows the *freedom* consumers want, will end up being what is adopted. I dont want to be told how/when/where I can watch my media, and thats all these companies want to do.
Thanks, thats exactly what Ive been looking for! I've really come to regret buying a pocket pc, but the palms are worse!
I suspect he's talking about this. But its not really a linux "solution" it kernel panics after 15 minutes... supports wireless? no...
Can evolution sync to this device? Does anyone know of a way to sync evolution to PocketPC? (dell axim).
You should filter reserved filenames as well, com1, com2, lpt1, etc. sending an attachment with any of these names will hose outlook (ask me how I found out :)
You know what the funny part is, I had to goto college to be a programmer because nobody in the states will hire you without a degree, but how many of these Russians have degrees comparable to an American education? I'm not saying they're not good programmers, they probably are. I'm just saying I doubt they're being held to the same standard as we are here. In a lot of ways a college education is the new high school education. My grandmother to the day she died bragged about finishing high school -- in her time women usually went to the 10th grade and were married off. Now with a 4 year engineering degree I'm a part of the fucking unwashed masses, and your words of comfort aren't putting a roof over my head.
This is infact pure greed, the problem with capitalism is there is very little short term reward for long term planning. Outsourcing does long term damage to the country by providing short term gains. I'd like to know what job you're in? Whatever it is I'm sure an immigrant could and would do it for half your wage. That doesn't make it right or good.
I will tell you right now how this will begin and end. Some kind of electronic "perl harbor" will take place, death and destruction will be caused by shoddy software engineering (not Russian/Indian software either, good old shitty American software). The need to develop rigorous engineering standards for software, like EVERY OTHER ENGINEERING DISCIPLINE will be painfully obvious, and those standards will be developed and practiced by American programmers. But in the meantime, this shit stinks. I have been unemployed for, coming up on, two years here and I have quite a lot of experience, and I know a lot of people in the same boat. The unemployment rate here in Southern California is like 16% (the real unemployment rate, not the rosy numbers the government publishes).
shit, I dont know how I screwed up the link, but its 711.com
We have a chain of stores here in california (and possibly nationally?) called 7-eleven, its not quite the same, but along similiar lines.
You know you're doing something cool when your g/f says "GOD DAMNIT NOT ANOTHER ONE!?!?" and you already know what shes talking about :)
On "real time" with bill mahr he really said something that was really astute: Banks can keep track of every cent you have and owe accurately, why cant votes be held to the same standard.
This is slashdot :) Zero Wing, Futurama, South Park and that stupid "In Soviet Russia..." are the only things anyone knows to quote :)
PUHLEASE it is of course, don quixote.
I wish I could mod ya up, but ya got a friend for the obscure reference :)
One of the problems with OO programming is you can't always anticipate how an object might be used :) An interface you implement might be perfectly acceptable for your purposes, but there could be another interface which provides the same functionality for your software, and more functionality for another purpose of which you are not aware.
My mother has about 2500 ebay transactions, (dont ask). And after getting royally phucked by paypal once the solution was pretty evident. Get a throw away bank account. She went down to the local credit union (not our normal bank), got an account, and linked that up with paypal. She only puts money in the account when she makes a purchase, and if she recieves funds she removes them. The problem is -- finding a bank that won't charge you a fortune for inactivity/low balance, etc (good bet is a credit union).