We've already discussed the cellphone jamming option , here, referencing this.
Too bad it's illegal. On the kid thing: sure, it's rude to the other patrons, but more importantly, the poor kid is bored and ignored. I've seen three movies in the theatre since I became Dad over 5.5 years ago, and two of them were in the past 6 months (Lilo & Stitch, and Jonah(Veggietales RULE!)).
Technically, he's correct. Unfortunately, since device manufacturers also specify all characteristics of the power supply, some are planned around very specific voltage/current profiles, in other words, actually planning on a certain voltage drop at a certain current draw. This is most common with rechargers, wherein at the start of the charge cycle, the device relies on the power supply sagging under the load to prevent charging the battery too fast. Give it a more robust supply, and you overheat the battery. This, however, is only an excuse, and applies to only very simple and inexpensive devices, and not even many of them, any more. The real reason is forced incompatibility. Batteries and power supplies commonly have elaborately-keyed connectors, both physically and electrically. Even though the device reqires only some minimum current capability within some voltage range, in some cases the connector actually has to provide power and ground on some undocumented combination of the pins, and has to turn on and off some pins based on power sense in others, provided by the device. This is just to prevent aftermarket replacements. Did anyone ever try to buy a replacement dongle for an ethernet or modem PC card? It's commonly barely cheaper than to purchase a complete replacement for the device. open up one of those automotive power adapters for a cell phone, and see what it is. I've never seen one yet that did any voltage or current modification. THe phone just lives with whatever voltage it gets, as long as it's not too little to run on, or too much to handle. The cost is in the needlessly-complicated and fragile connector. Power to portable consumer devices is still largely closed-source.
A key at least as long as the message? Come on, years ago I used project gutenberg texts as keys. You agree on numbers for specific texts, then, the key given is textnumber:byte offset. Offset the ascii codes of the printable characters ascii codes at the lowest one (32?), for the key string, add that to each character, wrapping back down to the bottom. Obviously, knowing what the keys come from, a brute-force dictionary attack could do it, but if you use your own secret keys, maybe encrypt one page with another at some offset, or watch a lava lamp with a webcam for a day, saving each frame, and checksum them), and protect them, you're unbreakable. Now, what I find fascinating is the assymetric keys, where you can give somebody a key to encrypt that can't be used to decrypt. Anyway, my point: if your idea is nothing more than a full-length secret key, don't worry about export rules or patenting it. Anybody who didn't already think of it has nothing worth encrypting anyway.
He sounds like a self-made man. He's probably (justifiably) proud of what he's done. He's had several careers, several businesses, and is doing well (as attested by the previous testimonial(a few posts up)). Some big company declares his property, his name, to be their property, and demands that he stop using it as he sees fit. If he's not desperate for the money, I can easily see somebody like that saying "fuck you, you enormous hard-on, put your cash where your boyfriend will find it" to the Nissan Motors rep. Besides, at least in America, they definitely have a shorter history with the name than Uzi does. Until fairly recently, they were calling themselves "Datsun". Let them have nissan.co.jp.
and what, pray tell, do you think the units are on the Kelvin scale? I've heard some shorten "degrees Kelvin" to ?Kelvin, or even "Kelvins", in case that's what you're driving at, but it's still degrees, just as "60 Fahrenheit" is short for "60 degrees Fahrenheit".
smirnof wasn't a petrochemical Obviously, you haven't tasted it. OOhh... maybe you'd like some Tvarski, or Dark Eyes, too. The only good thing the commies did for Russia was to keep Stoly good. Yeah, the good Stoly is gone, but so are is the enormous, powerful group of smart people who wanted to kill us. I guess it's a good trade. I still miss good vodka, though. And for all my ranting, I'm not a vodka snob. I'm a beer snob.
Well, whoop-dee-doo! Congratulations, you Read an FM. I'll bet the submitter did, too. Do you really think the posters let such questions through in order to substitute some loser's RTFM? We all know how to hunt down specs, standards, and manuals. If that was all there was to it, they could replace/. with a redirect to google. Such questions are not in to provide you with the opportunity to be a snotty little pissant, but for the discussion they stimulate. Here, there's access to the experience, wisdom, and judgement of hundreds (thousands?) of geeks, even if, so often, some snotty little AC demonstrates such limited thinking. Does anybody really think that all the answers are in the standards and manuals? On this topic, for instance, maybe somebody will be able to make the case that there is no reason for catVI or catVII, V works just fine, per the spec. Somebody else may be able to show real benefit, maybe just in certain circumstances, to useing more expensive cable. It is to be his backbone - maybe he should be looking at fibre instead. Whatever.
While I agree that if the submitter didn't even look at such docs as you provided in your crapflood, he IS an idiot, that has no bearing on our responses to the question, and responses to the responses. So, go get a cup of coffee, read something good, and calm down. Review the thread in a couple of days. There'll probably be something in it you didn't already know. Really. It's possible.
Its a Xenomorph, not a Zenomorph really? How do you know? Because the word you're thinking when you pronounce his id is spelled "xenomorph"? Perhaps it's about taking a shape dictated by Zen? If somebody tells you to put things in the "to box", do you correct him, telling him it's the "two boxes", when he might well mean the box that is not the "from" box? No wonder you post AC.
A:RTFA. Drives, not partitions.
B:dos style partitioning (standard in linux and many others, as well) 4 partitions, any of which can be extended partitions, which can each contain up to 4 logical partitions. 16 partitions/drive.
A: This is not OT.
B:I chose to comment at this level because you're talking about my prescription, or close to it - 10.0 and 10.5 nearsighted, with a couple of diopters of astigmatism.... at least, it was. It was a scary decision, but i figured the chances of permanent crippling vision damage was miniscule, and the chance of some degradation was still pretty small. I figured i could wear even worse coke-bottle-bottoms, switch to a larger font, and maybe squint a bit, maybe even use a screen reader, for my job. On a mountainside, glasses can be a real hassle. Fogging in the cold, sliding down your nose in the heat, and, the possibility of them falling off and leaving me hoping for a high-altitude rescue (contacts are even worse when you're that far out on your own) made me take the chance. I had to go with PRK, as my cornea is only about as thick as the flap they cut for LASIK. During my post-procedure phase, I accidentally took the cortisone drops a few days too long, and ended up making myself slightly farsighted. I'm only 39, so i've still got good focal range, and can focus down to about 8 inches, but I'm going to need reading glasses sooner than I should have. I still don't regret it. I'm a solid 20:15, and can jump out of bed in the middle of the night seeing perfectly. Note that if you're much past 10, nobody will do you, so it can't get rid of 2-inch-thick lenses. What it comes down to is your own priorities, what losses you can live with, what risks you can stomach. If you're a couch potato, barfly, gamer, or otherwise sedentary, vision correcting surgery is probably a waste of time, stress, money, and karma. For me, not a day passes where I don't think about it and giggle about the fact that I'm no longer a cripple when I sleep.
waters minimum density is at 4C, as it approaches freezing from there, it expands. It's not a solid, but that's still a negative coefficient of thermal expansion, and neither one changes the amount of material. If it did, now THAT would be a really big deal - the creation and destruction of matter by temperature change.
I don't have the details yet, but: I am evaluating NAS solutions. The two Linux systems that have journaled filesystems also use XFS, and also have snapshot capabilities. I don't know if it's something they've added to their systems, or if it's inherent in XFS. Can somebody who's already directly playing with XFS fill me in on this?
Snail mail to the federal government now costs us a lot in taxes, and doesn't get to the people very quickly. This is because all mail to the Capitol is diverted to a remote facility, where, in a long FIFO, it is decontaminated (Cl2O, maybe), then opened and faxed to the appropriate office. Email is actually more likely to be read, and better yet is their "write your rep" link, which weeds out the automailers that dilute the effectiveness of email.
Aside from the obvious gaming, Many CAE applications can use it, particularly semiconductor simulations. In our applications here, we get pretty much 1:1 performance improvement/clock speed increase, within an architecture. as for most of the rest of the real world, I/O will have to catch up to get anything from these speeds.
explain RTFM? While it incorporates profanity, and is therefore inherently rude, it isn't always meant or taken that way. There's a reason people right documentation, and it's not for finger exercise. No documentation I ever read was perfect, but most of it answers most questions I have about the application. I see the anagram used more commonly in the form of "DOH! I should have RTFM". It gets used pejoratively towards the people who are too freaking lazy to RTFM. You'd be amazed, for instance, how many people go on a newsgroup for an application, and ask questions that are addressed and answered in the first 25 displayed lines of the man page.
I answer a lot of questions on a newsgroup for a popular utility. On obvious RTFM questions, I always note the questioners name, domain, and writing style and cut them extra slack if they appear to be non-native speakers of English(technical translation is notoriously tricky). Otherwise, I simply copy/paste in the appropriate few lines of the man page, always including the headers to show where it came from, and introduced with something like "I could explain in my own words, but I think the author of the man page did a better job than I could." Here on/., people are often more terse, and when somebody says or asks something ignorant (or maybe just plain stupid), responders can get pretty rude. In your troll against Linux culture: Somebody who's too lazy or stupid or illiterate to RTFM can't be a decent unix admin, and a sharp, rude reminder of that fact makes the good ones better, and makes the bad ones go back to windows.
methanol refill kit Maybe on the black market. These'll be engineered with "safety" features to ensure that the cartridge is from the correct manufacturer, probably in the form of a key in flash, and if you defeat that, you'll be in violation of the DMCA. I wouldn't be surprised to see such a powerful resource "licensed", and attempts to reverse-engineer it, even strictly by and for yourself, would be a violation.
Much more disposable than most current rechargeables. Nickel, lead, cadmium? Yummy! Lithium oxide neutralizes down to a salt in any acid, so LiION batts aren't too bad, but all these have is generally a platinum catalyst(in the reformer) and an organic membrane(the actual fuel cell), The fuel can fit in anything that isn't dissolved by methanol and makes a good seal. Unfortunately, I expect these to be like inkjet cartridges, and since they're useful for so many more applications than that (all electronics use electricity, only inkjets use inkjet cartridges). The stakes are higher, and they'll probably bust ass trying to keep them from being refilled. Maybe special regulatory authority under "safety" concerns. My hope is, though, that public outcry about paying USD 40 for USD 0.002 worth of methanol will get regulatory action. It'll just be a matter of whether we're madder than the fuel cell makers are willing to bribe and politicians are greedy. Maybe it will balance out around USD10 or so.
For the life of me, I can't think of a reason they should be making a camera that can withstand all that accelleration. Set it up as a telemicroscope, place reflectors (which WOULD have to withstand the force) angled around the sample chamber, and place the camera next to the hub, pointing outward at the sample cell, stearable to look directly into the cell, or at points on the mirrors for side views. If I misread the article, and they're actually viewing organelles instead of just down to teh cell level, I retract the telemicroscope suggestion, as they'd need more like an oil film contact system.
supersonic speeds without at least passing through You don't manoever while you're going trans-sonic. Generally, nobody does. The SR-71 climbs sonic, gets up to about mach 0.9, and power-dives in a straight line to about mach 1.1. It saves wear and tear on the airframe, AND it saves fuel. Supersonic fighter planes close and withdraw supersonic, do closing standoff attacks supersonic, but dogfight mostly subsonic. They're going to manoever subsonic, straighten the control surfaces to slash through trans-sonic, and manoever again supersonic. Oh, and don't worry about the pilots yet. This is all windtunnel stuff so far. The model won't actually be able to turn, climb, and dive. It will be in a balance, measuring forces on it as it does its manoevers. Probably just a plain wing to start, later something plane-shaped. Ever since I got to mess with the full-scale working model of the 1903 flyer at the Wilbur Wright birthplace in Millville, Indiana, I've thought that efficiency, especially in manoevering, would be enhanced by getting rid of transitions, if we could get sufficiently strong, rigid materials that wouldn't suffer from flexing. At the very start, they chose the optimal configuration. The bishop's boys still rule!
This issue reminds me of the people who make "cozies" for things. "Goodness! We can't have it look like what it actually is!". I think functional antennae are beautiful, whatever their form. On the schools issue, This should put that bit of stupidity to rest. It won't of course, because people are stupid.
I forgot mass. At around 4500km**2 for a circle with a 15km radius, and 10**14 to 10**15 g/cm**2 for neutronium, that works out to between 4.5*10**16 and 4.5*10**17 metric tons (45 sextillion grams).
well, at 787km**2, manhattan corresponds to a circle with a diamater of 30km, or a bit under 20 miles. I'm not sure I'd still call it a star, though, any more than I call a stick a tree branch.
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We've already discussed the cellphone jamming option , here, referencing this.
Too bad it's illegal.
On the kid thing: sure, it's rude to the other patrons, but more importantly, the poor kid is bored and ignored. I've seen three movies in the theatre since I became Dad over 5.5 years ago, and two of them were in the past 6 months (Lilo & Stitch, and Jonah(Veggietales RULE!)).
Technically, he's correct. Unfortunately, since device manufacturers also specify all characteristics of the power supply, some are planned around very specific voltage/current profiles, in other words, actually planning on a certain voltage drop at a certain current draw. This is most common with rechargers, wherein at the start of the charge cycle, the device relies on the power supply sagging under the load to prevent charging the battery too fast. Give it a more robust supply, and you overheat the battery.
This, however, is only an excuse, and applies to only very simple and inexpensive devices, and not even many of them, any more. The real reason is forced incompatibility. Batteries and power supplies commonly have elaborately-keyed connectors, both physically and electrically. Even though the device reqires only some minimum current capability within some voltage range, in some cases the connector actually has to provide power and ground on some undocumented combination of the pins, and has to turn on and off some pins based on power sense in others, provided by the device. This is just to prevent aftermarket replacements. Did anyone ever try to buy a replacement dongle for an ethernet or modem PC card? It's commonly barely cheaper than to purchase a complete replacement for the device. open up one of those automotive power adapters for a cell phone, and see what it is. I've never seen one yet that did any voltage or current modification. THe phone just lives with whatever voltage it gets, as long as it's not too little to run on, or too much to handle. The cost is in the needlessly-complicated and fragile connector. Power to portable consumer devices is still largely closed-source.
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A key at least as long as the message? Come on, years ago I used project gutenberg texts as keys. You agree on numbers for specific texts, then, the key given is textnumber:byte offset. Offset the ascii codes of the printable characters ascii codes at the lowest one (32?), for the key string, add that to each character, wrapping back down to the bottom. Obviously, knowing what the keys come from, a brute-force dictionary attack could do it, but if you use your own secret keys, maybe encrypt one page with another at some offset, or watch a lava lamp with a webcam for a day, saving each frame, and checksum them), and protect them, you're unbreakable.
Now, what I find fascinating is the assymetric keys, where you can give somebody a key to encrypt that can't be used to decrypt.
Anyway, my point: if your idea is nothing more than a full-length secret key, don't worry about export rules or patenting it. Anybody who didn't already think of it has nothing worth encrypting anyway.
He sounds like a self-made man. He's probably (justifiably) proud of what he's done. He's had several careers, several businesses, and is doing well (as attested by the previous testimonial(a few posts up)). Some big company declares his property, his name, to be their property, and demands that he stop using it as he sees fit. If he's not desperate for the money, I can easily see somebody like that saying "fuck you, you enormous hard-on, put your cash where your boyfriend will find it" to the Nissan Motors rep.
Besides, at least in America, they definitely have a shorter history with the name than Uzi does. Until fairly recently, they were calling themselves "Datsun". Let them have nissan.co.jp.
and what, pray tell, do you think the units are on the Kelvin scale?
I've heard some shorten "degrees Kelvin" to ?Kelvin, or even "Kelvins", in case that's what you're driving at, but it's still degrees, just as "60 Fahrenheit" is short for "60 degrees Fahrenheit".
smirnof wasn't a petrochemical
Obviously, you haven't tasted it. OOhh... maybe you'd like some Tvarski, or Dark Eyes, too.
The only good thing the commies did for Russia was to keep Stoly good. Yeah, the good Stoly is gone, but so are is the enormous, powerful group of smart people who wanted to kill us. I guess it's a good trade. I still miss good vodka, though.
And for all my ranting, I'm not a vodka snob. I'm a beer snob.
Well, whoop-dee-doo! Congratulations, you Read an FM. I'll bet the submitter did, too. Do you really think the posters let such questions through in order to substitute some loser's RTFM? We all know how to hunt down specs, standards, and manuals. If that was all there was to it, they could replace /. with a redirect to google. Such questions are not in to provide you with the opportunity to be a snotty little pissant, but for the discussion they stimulate. Here, there's access to the experience, wisdom, and judgement of hundreds (thousands?) of geeks, even if, so often, some snotty little AC demonstrates such limited thinking. Does anybody really think that all the answers are in the standards and manuals? On this topic, for instance, maybe somebody will be able to make the case that there is no reason for catVI or catVII, V works just fine, per the spec. Somebody else may be able to show real benefit, maybe just in certain circumstances, to useing more expensive cable. It is to be his backbone - maybe he should be looking at fibre instead. Whatever.
While I agree that if the submitter didn't even look at such docs as you provided in your crapflood, he IS an idiot, that has no bearing on our responses to the question, and responses to the responses. So, go get a cup of coffee, read something good, and calm down. Review the thread in a couple of days. There'll probably be something in it you didn't already know. Really. It's possible.
Its a Xenomorph, not a Zenomorph
really? How do you know? Because the word you're thinking when you pronounce his id is spelled "xenomorph"? Perhaps it's about taking a shape dictated by Zen? If somebody tells you to put things in the "to box", do you correct him, telling him it's the "two boxes", when he might well mean the box that is not the "from" box?
No wonder you post AC.
A:RTFA. Drives, not partitions.
B:dos style partitioning (standard in linux and many others, as well) 4 partitions, any of which can be extended partitions, which can each contain up to 4 logical partitions. 16 partitions/drive.
A: This is not OT.
B:I chose to comment at this level because you're talking about my prescription, or close to it - 10.0 and 10.5 nearsighted, with a couple of diopters of astigmatism.... at least, it was. It was a scary decision, but i figured the chances of permanent crippling vision damage was miniscule, and the chance of some degradation was still pretty small. I figured i could wear even worse coke-bottle-bottoms, switch to a larger font, and maybe squint a bit, maybe even use a screen reader, for my job. On a mountainside, glasses can be a real hassle. Fogging in the cold, sliding down your nose in the heat, and, the possibility of them falling off and leaving me hoping for a high-altitude rescue (contacts are even worse when you're that far out on your own) made me take the chance.
I had to go with PRK, as my cornea is only about as thick as the flap they cut for LASIK. During my post-procedure phase, I accidentally took the cortisone drops a few days too long, and ended up making myself slightly farsighted. I'm only 39, so i've still got good focal range, and can focus down to about 8 inches, but I'm going to need reading glasses sooner than I should have. I still don't regret it. I'm a solid 20:15, and can jump out of bed in the middle of the night seeing perfectly.
Note that if you're much past 10, nobody will do you, so it can't get rid of 2-inch-thick lenses. What it comes down to is your own priorities, what losses you can live with, what risks you can stomach. If you're a couch potato, barfly, gamer, or otherwise sedentary, vision correcting surgery is probably a waste of time, stress, money, and karma. For me, not a day passes where I don't think about it and giggle about the fact that I'm no longer a cripple when I sleep.
waters minimum density is at 4C, as it approaches freezing from there, it expands. It's not a solid, but that's still a negative coefficient of thermal expansion, and neither one changes the amount of material.
If it did, now THAT would be a really big deal - the creation and destruction of matter by temperature change.
I don't have the details yet, but: I am evaluating NAS solutions. The two Linux systems that have journaled filesystems also use XFS, and also have snapshot capabilities. I don't know if it's something they've added to their systems, or if it's inherent in XFS. Can somebody who's already directly playing with XFS fill me in on this?
Snail mail to the federal government now costs us a lot in taxes, and doesn't get to the people very quickly. This is because all mail to the Capitol is diverted to a remote facility, where, in a long FIFO, it is decontaminated (Cl2O, maybe), then opened and faxed to the appropriate office. Email is actually more likely to be read, and better yet is their "write your rep" link, which weeds out the automailers that dilute the effectiveness of email.
Aside from the obvious gaming, Many CAE applications can use it, particularly semiconductor simulations. In our applications here, we get pretty much 1:1 performance improvement/clock speed increase, within an architecture.
as for most of the rest of the real world, I/O will have to catch up to get anything from these speeds.
explain RTFM? /., people are often more terse, and when somebody says or asks something ignorant (or maybe just plain stupid), responders can get pretty rude.
While it incorporates profanity, and is therefore inherently rude, it isn't always meant or taken that way. There's a reason people right documentation, and it's not for finger exercise. No documentation I ever read was perfect, but most of it answers most questions I have about the application. I see the anagram used more commonly in the form of "DOH! I should have RTFM". It gets used pejoratively towards the people who are too freaking lazy to RTFM. You'd be amazed, for instance, how many people go on a newsgroup for an application, and ask questions that are addressed and answered in the first 25 displayed lines of the man page.
I answer a lot of questions on a newsgroup for a popular utility. On obvious RTFM questions, I always note the questioners name, domain, and writing style and cut them extra slack if they appear to be non-native speakers of English(technical translation is notoriously tricky). Otherwise, I simply copy/paste in the appropriate few lines of the man page, always including the headers to show where it came from, and introduced with something like "I could explain in my own words, but I think the author of the man page did a better job than I could."
Here on
In your troll against Linux culture: Somebody who's too lazy or stupid or illiterate to RTFM can't be a decent unix admin, and a sharp, rude reminder of that fact makes the good ones better, and makes the bad ones go back to windows.
It shouldn't be dignified by calling it a cult, either. It's more like the guys who dress up as Star Trek characters and decide to go full-time.
methanol refill kit
Maybe on the black market. These'll be engineered with "safety" features to ensure that the cartridge is from the correct manufacturer, probably in the form of a key in flash, and if you defeat that, you'll be in violation of the DMCA. I wouldn't be surprised to see such a powerful resource "licensed", and attempts to reverse-engineer it, even strictly by and for yourself, would be a violation.
Much more disposable than most current rechargeables. Nickel, lead, cadmium? Yummy! Lithium oxide neutralizes down to a salt in any acid, so LiION batts aren't too bad, but all these have is generally a platinum catalyst(in the reformer) and an organic membrane(the actual fuel cell), The fuel can fit in anything that isn't dissolved by methanol and makes a good seal.
Unfortunately, I expect these to be like inkjet cartridges, and since they're useful for so many more applications than that (all electronics use electricity, only inkjets use inkjet cartridges). The stakes are higher, and they'll probably bust ass trying to keep them from being refilled. Maybe special regulatory authority under "safety" concerns. My hope is, though, that public outcry about paying USD 40 for USD 0.002 worth of methanol will get regulatory action. It'll just be a matter of whether we're madder than the fuel cell makers are willing to bribe and politicians are greedy. Maybe it will balance out around USD10 or so.
For the life of me, I can't think of a reason they should be making a camera that can withstand all that accelleration. Set it up as a telemicroscope, place reflectors (which WOULD have to withstand the force) angled around the sample chamber, and place the camera next to the hub, pointing outward at the sample cell, stearable to look directly into the cell, or at points on the mirrors for side views. If I misread the article, and they're actually viewing organelles instead of just down to teh cell level, I retract the telemicroscope suggestion, as they'd need more like an oil film contact system.
accelerate flow once it has reached mach one in a wind tunnel is a cross secional area increase
So Bernoulli's law is exactly backwards?
supersonic speeds without at least passing through
You don't manoever while you're going trans-sonic. Generally, nobody does. The SR-71 climbs sonic, gets up to about mach 0.9, and power-dives in a straight line to about mach 1.1. It saves wear and tear on the airframe, AND it saves fuel. Supersonic fighter planes close and withdraw supersonic, do closing standoff attacks supersonic, but dogfight mostly subsonic.
They're going to manoever subsonic, straighten the control surfaces to slash through trans-sonic, and manoever again supersonic. Oh, and don't worry about the pilots yet. This is all windtunnel stuff so far. The model won't actually be able to turn, climb, and dive. It will be in a balance, measuring forces on it as it does its manoevers. Probably just a plain wing to start, later something plane-shaped.
Ever since I got to mess with the full-scale working model of the 1903 flyer at the Wilbur Wright birthplace in Millville, Indiana, I've thought that efficiency, especially in manoevering, would be enhanced by getting rid of transitions, if we could get sufficiently strong, rigid materials that wouldn't suffer from flexing.
At the very start, they chose the optimal configuration. The bishop's boys still rule!
This issue reminds me of the people who make "cozies" for things. "Goodness! We can't have it look like what it actually is!". I think functional antennae are beautiful, whatever their form.
On the schools issue, This should put that bit of stupidity to rest. It won't of course, because people are stupid.
I forgot mass. At around 4500km**2 for a circle with a 15km radius, and 10**14 to 10**15 g/cm**2 for neutronium, that works out to between 4.5*10**16 and 4.5*10**17 metric tons (45 sextillion grams).
well, at 787km**2, manhattan corresponds to a circle with a diamater of 30km, or a bit under 20 miles. I'm not sure I'd still call it a star, though, any more than I call a stick a tree branch.