I think it depended on your monitor - some monochrome monitors used green phosphors, others used white. It's been a long damn time though, I could easily be wrong.
Can you imagine if there was a guy on the street corner with a guitar, completely still, with a sign that said, "give me a dollar and I'll start playing"?
Some of 'em would do a better if they had a sign that said "give me a dollar and I'll stop playing."
For example. I'd pay a lot of money for a Tiger upgrade to the ext2fs plugin for OS X. Unfortunately, no (reasonable) amount of money will convince the author to make time for the upgrade right now.
Do you mean this one? If so, the news item posted just a few days ago says he's working on it, and has a link to his Amazon wish list for those who want to offer "encouragement". (Although you're right... It looks like there was a two-year hiatus before the recent work on Tiger...)
What's so hard about releasing these things under an open source license.
Basic scientific method, really - control the environment as tightly as you can, and then document everything as thoroughly as you can. The first precludes open source while the experiment is ongoing, while the second requires opening up the source once the experiment's done.
Aren't universities supposed to encourage the spread of information?
Accurate information, yes. How would you propose that accuracy could be guaranteed with an open client that anyone could alter?
Oh, and don't bother starting in on how binary-only nodes could be hacked, wires can be tapped, etc. - I know that. It's irrelevant. The goal of an experiment like this is to eliminate any variables other than the ones you're testing. Not every variable can be eliminated, but that's not a legitimate reason to abandon the effort entirely. Besides which, only someone with malicious intent would bother going to that kind of trouble; an open-source client could be comprimised by a well-meaning hacker who tried to "optimize" his copy of the client by taking short-cuts.
I would imagine that at least in the army, they can definitely make an implant mandatory
Yeah, they could do it to the soldiers they already have. But, they're having a hard time meeting recruitment goals already - if they did something like that, volunteer rates would drop even lower. They'd have to reinstate the draft.
Come on folks, we can't even organise ourselves on Earth to prevent avoidable damage from hurricanes and earthquakes, we can't agree on whether we are causing climate change by producing greenhouse gases, we are faced with an influenza pandemic that no-one really knows how to deal with, and we still have R&D money to spend on sending people to the moon and Mars?
The things you mention, and other unavoidable stuff like a massive meteor strike, are precisely the reason(s) we should be doing these things. Our goal shouldn't be to "simply" get to the Moon, or Mars. Our goal should be to establish a viable self-sufficient colony there that would ensure, should some catastrophy strike here on Earth that wipes out all life on the planet, the survival of the human species. Right now, all of humanity's eggs are in one basket, and as you've pointed out, that basket is looking more fragile by the day.
There's one drug [oxygen] they'll never be able to outlaw.
Why is that? Because it occurs naturally in the atmosphere? Pot plants grow naturally. So do psilocybin mushrooms. So does the Coca plant that cocaine comes from, and the poppies from which heroin is derived. And yet all of those are illegal.
No, such battles cannot be won, but that won't stop some idiot control freaks from trying to fight them anyway.
Microsoft totally didn't bother upgrading their JVM to support features in Java 1.2, and above.
Slow down on the spin, you're making me dizzy. Sun *sued* Microsoft over breach of contract, because MS added classes to the java.* package. The license specified that any vendor-added classes had to live outside the official name space, so Sun won the lawsuit and got an injunction that prevented MS from distributing future versions.
Microsoft prevented Sun's Java from gaining a significant foothold on Windows.
Sun prevented Java from gaining a significant foothold on Windows, not MS. Sun was embarrassed because MS's JVM for Windows was faster than Sun's own, and acted out of sheer spite with the ammunition they had on hand.
It's a bit premature to parse words that aren't the actual license.
Better to discuss the implications now than later, when they're in the license and can't be changed.
Maybe it'll be used as FUD, but I really doubt it
Honestly, so do I. And no sane admin would interpret it as meaning he has to configure his server in "bring it on" mode. Still, the GPL is essentially a contract, and any lawyer will tell you that a contract has to be as explicit and detailed as possible.
I don't quite understand where you go the idea that webmasters or site admins would be required to leave a service open and unthrottled.
Here's the relevant snippet from the article:
We're looking at an approach where programs used (on a public server) will have to include a command for the user to download the source for the version that is running," Stallman said. "If you release a program that implements such a command, GPL 3 will require others to keep the command working in their modified versions of the program.
When he says "working", you and I both understand that he means "working insofar as allowed by necessary security restrictions put in place to prevent abuse of the service." But the GPL is a legal document, and unless that's explicitly stated, it could be interpreted as meaning no restrictions allowed, period. And that's how corporate lawyers and suits will interpret it - encouraged, no doubt, by the various FUD factories.
Not in the sense you're talking about, of course not. But, if you're legally bound to leave a particular service open and unthrottled, it could become a potential vector for DDoS attacks. There need to be provisions to allow a site admin to place limits on the number of simultaneous requests, the frequency of requests from a single client, and other such limits to help prevent abuse.
Fair warning: Unlike most of the people posting comments, I've actually read the fine article. Please forgive me for interrupting all the fun with a few boring facts.
I edit it so it has a different skin then the default one. I now have to provide the source code for my website? Fsck that! Does that make my images and content on the website released under the GPL as well?
If the original software had a "download source" function in it, you'd have to leave that function intact in the copy you use. For the sake of discussion, imagine a web server that allowed you to download the source code for the server software at the URL http://fake.invalid/~sourcecode/. If you were using that server on your site, you couldn't modify it to disable that function; if you've modified the server software in other ways, that function would have to deliver your modified source code.
That's all there is to it - none of this "OMG, it's the end of the GPL as we know it" nonsense that half the people here are moaning about. So you can relax - none of the content being served on your site would be affected in any way.
One thing that does bother me about this is the potential for abuse. Source tarballs can get pretty big, and if there's no allowances made for restricting or throttling a service that delivers them, it's a potential avenue for a DDoS attack.
Try telling that to *your* boss and see how well it flies. "Boss, writing more code shouldn't be a requirement. I've already spent months writing this module here, so you should just keep paying me for that every week."
Hey genius: a Middle Easterner is more likely to be a terrorist than you are.
Racist comments like that aren't worth dignifying with a response.
Focusing on Middle Easterners is an efficient way to use scarce resources.
Hey genius: Terrorists aren't that stupid. Such an obvious pattern would be quickly detected and worked around. If we only search big dark-skinned guys with beards, the next bomber they send will be a tiny, redheaded goth girl.
well what if the screen width is wider than the printed page? then what?
In a WYSIWYG app, you get the same layout, scaled to fit. So you either have vertical scrolling to view the whole page, or unused space to the left and/or right of the document display area.
you end up with images that either resize, get cropped, or text is pushed around onto other pages. you can end up with two pages printing for a single page in browser
Slashdot Mirror
Or Strange Days, which could be considered a (lose) remake of Brainstorm.
Sigh. Loose is the opposite of tight. Lose is the opposite of win. What's so damn difficult about this?
I think it depended on your monitor - some monochrome monitors used green phosphors, others used white. It's been a long damn time though, I could easily be wrong.
Amen, brother. Here's to playing Wolfenstein the way it was meant to be - top-down, black and white, on an Apple ][.
Can you imagine if there was a guy on the street corner with a guitar, completely still, with a sign that said, "give me a dollar and I'll start playing"?
Some of 'em would do a better if they had a sign that said "give me a dollar and I'll stop playing."
For example. I'd pay a lot of money for a Tiger upgrade to the ext2fs plugin for OS X. Unfortunately, no (reasonable) amount of money will convince the author to make time for the upgrade right now.
Do you mean this one? If so, the news item posted just a few days ago says he's working on it, and has a link to his Amazon wish list for those who want to offer "encouragement". (Although you're right... It looks like there was a two-year hiatus before the recent work on Tiger...)
CamelBones is getting there. It compiles, at least on my system, but not all of the self-tests pass.
What's so hard about releasing these things under an open source license.
Basic scientific method, really - control the environment as tightly as you can, and then document everything as thoroughly as you can. The first precludes open source while the experiment is ongoing, while the second requires opening up the source once the experiment's done.
Aren't universities supposed to encourage the spread of information?
Accurate information, yes. How would you propose that accuracy could be guaranteed with an open client that anyone could alter?
Oh, and don't bother starting in on how binary-only nodes could be hacked, wires can be tapped, etc. - I know that. It's irrelevant. The goal of an experiment like this is to eliminate any variables other than the ones you're testing. Not every variable can be eliminated, but that's not a legitimate reason to abandon the effort entirely. Besides which, only someone with malicious intent would bother going to that kind of trouble; an open-source client could be comprimised by a well-meaning hacker who tried to "optimize" his copy of the client by taking short-cuts.
I would imagine that at least in the army, they can definitely make an implant mandatory
Yeah, they could do it to the soldiers they already have. But, they're having a hard time meeting recruitment goals already - if they did something like that, volunteer rates would drop even lower. They'd have to reinstate the draft.
Come on folks, we can't even organise ourselves on Earth to prevent avoidable damage from hurricanes and earthquakes, we can't agree on whether we are causing climate change by producing greenhouse gases, we are faced with an influenza pandemic that no-one really knows how to deal with, and we still have R&D money to spend on sending people to the moon and Mars?
The things you mention, and other unavoidable stuff like a massive meteor strike, are precisely the reason(s) we should be doing these things. Our goal shouldn't be to "simply" get to the Moon, or Mars. Our goal should be to establish a viable self-sufficient colony there that would ensure, should some catastrophy strike here on Earth that wipes out all life on the planet, the survival of the human species. Right now, all of humanity's eggs are in one basket, and as you've pointed out, that basket is looking more fragile by the day.
Same thing we do every night, Pinky - get baked and munch out.
There's one drug [oxygen] they'll never be able to outlaw.
Why is that? Because it occurs naturally in the atmosphere? Pot plants grow naturally. So do psilocybin mushrooms. So does the Coca plant that cocaine comes from, and the poppies from which heroin is derived. And yet all of those are illegal.
No, such battles cannot be won, but that won't stop some idiot control freaks from trying to fight them anyway.
Microsoft totally didn't bother upgrading their JVM to support features in Java 1.2, and above.
Slow down on the spin, you're making me dizzy. Sun *sued* Microsoft over breach of contract, because MS added classes to the java.* package. The license specified that any vendor-added classes had to live outside the official name space, so Sun won the lawsuit and got an injunction that prevented MS from distributing future versions.
Microsoft prevented Sun's Java from gaining a significant foothold on Windows.
Sun prevented Java from gaining a significant foothold on Windows, not MS. Sun was embarrassed because MS's JVM for Windows was faster than Sun's own, and acted out of sheer spite with the ammunition they had on hand.
Could you do me a favor and pray for my soles instead? I could use a new pair of shoes. Thanks!
That last sentence... is he talking about the celery?
I very rarely go to concerts but I buy CDs and downloads all the time. Why should I get that for free?
Why should you get television commercials for free?
It's a bit premature to parse words that aren't the actual license.
Better to discuss the implications now than later, when they're in the license and can't be changed.
Maybe it'll be used as FUD, but I really doubt it
Honestly, so do I. And no sane admin would interpret it as meaning he has to configure his server in "bring it on" mode. Still, the GPL is essentially a contract, and any lawyer will tell you that a contract has to be as explicit and detailed as possible.
Here's the relevant snippet from the article:
When he says "working", you and I both understand that he means "working insofar as allowed by necessary security restrictions put in place to prevent abuse of the service." But the GPL is a legal document, and unless that's explicitly stated, it could be interpreted as meaning no restrictions allowed, period. And that's how corporate lawyers and suits will interpret it - encouraged, no doubt, by the various FUD factories.
So there are *no* legitimate security concerns.
Not in the sense you're talking about, of course not. But, if you're legally bound to leave a particular service open and unthrottled, it could become a potential vector for DDoS attacks. There need to be provisions to allow a site admin to place limits on the number of simultaneous requests, the frequency of requests from a single client, and other such limits to help prevent abuse.
Fair warning: Unlike most of the people posting comments, I've actually read the fine article. Please forgive me for interrupting all the fun with a few boring facts.
I edit it so it has a different skin then the default one. I now have to provide the source code for my website? Fsck that! Does that make my images and content on the website released under the GPL as well?
If the original software had a "download source" function in it, you'd have to leave that function intact in the copy you use. For the sake of discussion, imagine a web server that allowed you to download the source code for the server software at the URL http://fake.invalid/~sourcecode/. If you were using that server on your site, you couldn't modify it to disable that function; if you've modified the server software in other ways, that function would have to deliver your modified source code.
That's all there is to it - none of this "OMG, it's the end of the GPL as we know it" nonsense that half the people here are moaning about. So you can relax - none of the content being served on your site would be affected in any way.
One thing that does bother me about this is the potential for abuse. Source tarballs can get pretty big, and if there's no allowances made for restricting or throttling a service that delivers them, it's a potential avenue for a DDoS attack.
I really dont think the horse gives a shit.
Never lived on a farm, have you? Horses give a lot of shit.
Try telling that to *your* boss and see how well it flies. "Boss, writing more code shouldn't be a requirement. I've already spent months writing this module here, so you should just keep paying me for that every week."
What happens if they get sick? Or don't want to anymore?
The same thing that happens to the rest of us when we get sick, or don't want to do our jobs any more.
Truth no longer dignifies a response?
Racist propaganda is not truth.
Hey genius: a Middle Easterner is more likely to be a terrorist than you are.
Racist comments like that aren't worth dignifying with a response.
Focusing on Middle Easterners is an efficient way to use scarce resources.
Hey genius: Terrorists aren't that stupid. Such an obvious pattern would be quickly detected and worked around. If we only search big dark-skinned guys with beards, the next bomber they send will be a tiny, redheaded goth girl.
well what if the screen width is wider than the printed page? then what?
In a WYSIWYG app, you get the same layout, scaled to fit. So you either have vertical scrolling to view the whole page, or unused space to the left and/or right of the document display area.
you end up with images that either resize, get cropped, or text is pushed around onto other pages. you can end up with two pages printing for a single page in browser
Like I said before: HTML isn't WYSIWYG.