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Remote Control for Humans?

FatMacDaddy writes "The SFGate is reporting on a remote control for manipulating humans through electrical stimulation of the inner ear nerves.The author of this article describes his experience with having a "remote control for humans" device used on him. The developers hope to use this with video games and other entertainment, but it might also be used as a weapon to disable people. An interesting read with perhaps some disturbing implications. Better get a second layer on those tinfoil hats!"

237 comments

  1. Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess it could be used as a weapon... if you could convince everyone to wear the required head-gear all the time...

    1. Re:Sure... by thej1nx · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Don't be so sure. I would imagine that at least in the army, they can definitely make an implant mandatory, citing its use as a disciplinary device.

    2. Re:Sure... by MrRuslan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Remote Control of Humans and other animals is possible without any implants VIA ELF radiation and other less noticeable means.

    3. Re:Sure... by bsartist · · Score: 1

      I would imagine that at least in the army, they can definitely make an implant mandatory

      Yeah, they could do it to the soldiers they already have. But, they're having a hard time meeting recruitment goals already - if they did something like that, volunteer rates would drop even lower. They'd have to reinstate the draft.

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    4. Re:Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why don't you wear it voluntarily? It lets us protect you against terrorists. You're not a terrorist, are you?

    5. Re:Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Remote Control of Humans and other animals is possible without any implants VIA ELF radiation and other less noticeable means.

      Grrrr. Those darn Elves!

    6. Re:Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      trust the computer, the computer is your friend

    7. Re:Sure... by Lil-Bondy · · Score: 0

      i believe he said weapon, and if your targeting your own men, then... well, thats not much of a weapon now is it?

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    8. Re:Sure... by Associate · · Score: 2

      Just pay a few people to wear them on Mtv.
      That would more than convince many people to wear one.

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    9. Re:Sure... by thej1nx · · Score: 1
      Ofcourse you target your own men if they are trying to rebel or need to be disciplined.... or if they are deserting.

      A weapon is a weapon. It doesn't cares who it is being pointed at.

    10. Re:Sure... by Lucractius · · Score: 1

      the only less noticebale means i can think of is plain old psychology using something to get it to em when their not in front of you ( say mabey a phone)

      anyone got some credible proof of these claims?

      a peer reviewed journal article refference would be nice.

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    11. Re:Sure... by AGMW · · Score: 1
      Why don't you wear it voluntarily

      Hey, after a heavy night on the sauce, rather than calling for a cab/taxi, stick on one of these headsets, type in your address, and have it walk you home! Perhaps make it stop off for a kebab on the way!

      Ain't technology grand!

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    12. Re:Sure... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So we're all gonna get drafted and mod chipped and sent to invade Syria for Haliburton.

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    13. Re:Sure... by www-xenu-dot-net · · Score: 1
      Just pay a few people to wear them on Mtv.

      Ahem, that is what MTV is doing right now. It's called "music videos".

    14. Re:Sure... by bfischer · · Score: 1

      Music videos on MTV? Surely you jest. Pretty much just crap "reality" shows anymore.

    15. Re:Sure... by waamaral · · Score: 1

      Oh come on, you don't believe in radioactive elves, do you?

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    16. Re:Sure... by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is exactly how an army was controlled in Kurt Vonnegut's Sirens of Titan. A remote controlled helmet would receive signals from a controller that force you to do things like strangle one of you friends, through muscle control. I thought it was really neat that one of his first books (I think it was the first) was actually a science fiction novel, rather than what you normally expect from Vonnegut.

    17. Re:Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't you guys ever heard of social engineering? Now THAT is true remote control!

    18. Re:Sure... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 3, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, YOU control government officials!

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    19. Re:Sure... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I know, WTH is he talking about? MTV hasn't shown a music video in over ten years.

      Like the Olympics, where NBC or ABC or CBS pays literally billions to the rights, then finds out that they'll get better ratings showing "up close and personal"'s and "tours of the town" than they will showing actual sports, so that's what they do. And no one (in the US) gets to see much Olympics.

      So, too, MTV learned that Beavis and Butt-head drew bigger ratings than videos. Wait, so did "The Real World". And Jackass. And so on.

      I've seen many more documentaries about, say, Disco, that play snippets of the songs, than retro shows that play the actual, whole songs.

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    20. Re:Sure... by btarval · · Score: 2, Informative

      Of course! They're called girlfriends/wives.

      Hmmm. Given the crowd here, perhaps that IS news for Slashdot. ;)

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    21. Re:Sure... by ngoy · · Score: 1
      I know, WTH is he talking about? MTV hasn't shown a music video in over ten years.


      Actually, they do show music videos. Every Sunday at the same time when all the MTV viewers are in church.

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    22. Re:Sure... by Jorkapp · · Score: 1

      I can't wait until their remote controls include a MUTE button.

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    23. Re:Sure... by Nalanthi · · Score: 1

      Why don't you wear it voluntarily? It lets us protect you against terrorists. You're not a terrorist, are you?

      Your use of the word terrorist is deprecated, please replace all instances of the word terrorist with Commie-Mutant-Traitor and remember, the Computer is your friend.

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    24. Re:Sure... by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      Just pay a few people to wear them on Mtv.
      That would more than convince many people to wear one.

      God, I wish this was entirely a joke. However, I'm not convinced it wouldn't work.

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    25. Re:Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Harrison Bergeron was also science fiction.

    26. Re:Sure... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      No you get propritary chipped, the open sourcers "mod" chip you, break the DMCA, infringe copyright, and provide you with your own patent infringing remote ;-).

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    27. Re:Sure... by Mahou · · Score: 1

      wasn't that kind of the plot of josie and the pussycats?

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    28. Re:Sure... by btarval · · Score: 1

      Heh. You should've gotten a +1 funny for that.

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  2. women have had this for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    they're called breasts.

    1. Re:women have had this for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i wouldn't consider breasts to be a remote-control, but more of a biological-magnetical-hypnotizing-attraction-force system

      now what if there was a remote-control to control breasts?
      ohhhh yeahhhhh!

    2. Re:women have had this for years. by HermanAB · · Score: 5, Funny

      A remote control to control breasts? That is called a diamond, but be warned, it seems to wear out over time, it is not forever...

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    3. Re:women have had this for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently, men also have their answer.

    4. Re:women have had this for years. by zxnos · · Score: 5, Funny

      you need to recharge the batteries in the remote with additional diamonds, birthstones, gold, silver, china, etc... just like any other rechargeable battery, the charge is shorter each time...

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    5. Re:women have had this for years. by CODiNE · · Score: 1

      That might explain why girls tend to lean one way or the other while playing games. "But it made all the other men go that way"

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    6. Re:women have had this for years. by LiquidMind · · Score: 5, Funny

      us guys have one too!

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    7. Re:women have had this for years. by th0rium · · Score: 2, Funny

      I like how the remote has a button that says "Pretend Orgasm"... hahahaha

    8. Re:women have had this for years. by bclark · · Score: 5, Funny

      Anyone else scared to click that link?

    9. Re:women have had this for years. by Theremin+Maestro · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the headgear is slightly different. Looks like this: http://www.baronbob.com/baronbobboobs.htm (arguably NSFW)

    10. Re:women have had this for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So do the breasts.

    11. Re:women have had this for years. by speculatrix · · Score: 1
      us guys have one too!

      that link is work-safe.

    12. Re:women have had this for years. by Omicron32 · · Score: 1

      I've been goatsed, tubgirled and guy-cutting-penis-off'd far too many times to care anymore...

    13. Re:women have had this for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you need to recharge the batteries in the remote with additional diamonds, birthstones, gold, silver, china, etc... just like any other rechargeable battery, the charge is shorter each time...

      And like any other rechargeable battery, the solution is to get a new one as soon as the old one starts acting balky.

    14. Re:women have had this for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's perfectly safe...

      (...as long as your wife or girlfriend isn't around!)

    15. Re:women have had this for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And another (not necessarily work safe)

    16. Re:women have had this for years. by Luke+Psywalker · · Score: 1

      Only if your a pussy....

    17. Re:women have had this for years. by vagabond_gr · · Score: 1

      Nice trick, thanks man. I can't wait to try it on my girlf.....

      oh crap.

    18. Re:women have had this for years. by aug24 · · Score: 1

      Now (1) and (2) I've seen, and I thought there was nothing left to hurt me... Damn!

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    19. Re:women have had this for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, this is just bits of a guy and a girl. Really. Totally Harmless.

    20. Re:women have had this for years. by GreekPimpSlap · · Score: 2, Funny
      "just like any other rechargeable battery, the charge is shorter each time..."

      tell that to my credit card !

    21. Re:women have had this for years. by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      I don't know: it seems quite possible to recharge that remote control with properly applied olive oil. Some is used for good home Italian cooking, then you have the restRQSTthe bottle.

    22. Re:women have had this for years. by Neurotoxic666 · · Score: 1

      There, it'll be easier: BREASTS

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    23. Re:women have had this for years. by sckeener · · Score: 1

      Apparently my company's censorware saved me. I was blocked from seeing it.

      Thank goodness for censorware.

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  3. "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along." by daviqh · · Score: 1

    "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."

    That's odd...I always thought remote control humans were impossible. Besides, my voodoo dolls work just fine for the time being.

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  4. Old news by krautcanman · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Old news by toonerh · · Score: 1

      More to the point a dup of /. coverage of SIGGRAPH in August this year!

    2. Re:Old news by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Someone hit rewind on the slashdot editor remote.

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    3. Re:Old news by jededeck · · Score: 1

      It is not only old news, it has already appeared on Slashdot via this article.

  5. 404...conspiracy theories begin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obligatory Family Guy quote follows:

    Stewie: Good day, shopkeep.
    Chris: Good day shopkeep, I require a hand-operated buzzsaw capable of cutting through a human sternum.
    Shopkeep: What?
    Chris: It's for a school project, I'm some sort of student sent here for... oh blast what the devil do they study? uh... Latin class.
    Shopkeep: Uhh, sorry kid, I can't sell power tools to minors.
    Chris: Now look here you gore-bellied codpiece. Allow me to purchase the provisions I demand or I'll form your blue collar into a red one and-
    Who the deuce are you? No I don't have any spare change. Where the hell would I keep it? In my diaper? Get out of here you hobo. Oh bloody hell, is this thing still on?

    1. Re:404...conspiracy theories begin! by da3dAlus · · Score: 1

      "Eviscerate the Proletariat!"

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    2. Re:404...conspiracy theories begin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when does Chris wear a diaper?

    3. Re:404...conspiracy theories begin! by chrome · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uh, you're kidding right?

      Even if you're didn't see that episode, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to work out that Stewie was using a mind control device on Chris.

      Duuuuuh!!!!!!! :)

    4. Re:404...conspiracy theories begin! by genooma · · Score: 1

      Since he started to shit all over the place.

    5. Re:404...conspiracy theories begin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're blue and you don't know where to go to
      Why don't you go where fashion sits...

  6. Disturbing implications indeed... by Fermatprime · · Score: 5, Funny

    "An interesting read with perhaps some disturbing implications." I'll say - what if you lose it?

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    1. Re:Disturbing implications indeed... by beaso · · Score: 1

      a remote control for manipulating humans I'm not worried as I have a girlfriend to manipulate me....

    2. Re:Disturbing implications indeed... by uncoveror · · Score: 1

      The Uncoveror predicted that this was coming when they did it to rats!

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    3. Re:Disturbing implications indeed... by ediron2 · · Score: 1

      Three words:

      "Dance, mailman. Dance!" -- Cheers

  7. Come Here by Ecko7889 · · Score: 0

    Come here ScuttleMonkey...*Zap* *Zap* Good Boy!

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  8. Sounds like the real life version of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Escape from Witch Mountain....

    1. Re:Sounds like the real life version of by Aussie · · Score: 1

      > Escape from Witch Mountain....

      Don't you mean "The People" by Zena Henderson ?

      Does anybody read anymore ?

    2. Re:Sounds like the real life version of by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Whaddya mean, "anymore"?? I read that mumbledy-decades ago. Both books, in fact.

      Zenna Henderson page: http://www.adherents.com/lit/bk_Zenna.html

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  9. old old old story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't remember if I saw this story on slashdot or TV, but it was months ago, maybe even 6 months? OLD

    1. Re:old old old story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what if it's old? Just because you have seen it doesn't mean everyone has. Noone is forcing you to read it. Why do so many people keep whinging about stories being old or not perfectly in line with their personal interests and therefore not /. worthy?

  10. this one's quite a scare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    In the hands of an evil genius ... image a nation state of automatons, wait a minute ...

    1. Re:this one's quite a scare by rco3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Evil, sure - but who are you calling a genius?

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  11. Nothing New by lenmaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wives had had this for their husbands for years now.

    1. Re:Nothing New by BCW2 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      That's not true! I've been married 22 years because I learned how to say "yes mam" a long damn time ago.

      Wives don't have to twist your arm or yell, they just don't uncross their legs till they get their way. Money may make the world go round but pussy controls the money.

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    2. Re:Nothing New by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the form of dinner.

  12. Wetware hacking?? by yamamushi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sounds a little too much like, http://www.hackcanada.com/homegrown/wetware/ to me. However, its not so much remote, you have to be sitting right in front of the device, literally wearing it. But it opens your eyes to the implications.

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  13. FP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I swear it wasn't me! They were controlling my fingers!

    1. Re:FP! by Orgazmus · · Score: 1

      That device must be lagging

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  14. my day by d1a1v1e · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back in my day we used to use remote controles on cars.

    1. Re:my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maeybe you sould have bean reeding a book insted and lern to spel!!

  15. Not *that* bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to the article, all you'd need to do is sit or lie down and remove said headset to defeat it. This is *willful* remote control. The article's still worth a read, though.

    1. Re:Not *that* bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Now invents arm-controlling instructions to prevent willful removal ...

      I love how you idiots think something won't get off the ground just because version 1.0 is less than perfect.

      I sincerely hope you are the first to be assimilated.

  16. This reminds me of... by jgartin · · Score: 3, Funny

    That episode of Star Trek where those aliens steal Spock's brain. Scotty rigs up a remote control for Spock's body and they all beam down to the planet to search for it. Just goes to show you that all important modern tech was first shown on Star Trek.

    1. Re:This reminds me of... by dreimer · · Score: 1

      What about the TNG..."THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!!!"...where Picard was controlled (shock collar style)....

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  17. My word... by mozingod · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine the implications of this with the adult entertainment industry!

    Now that's entertainment!

    1. Re:My word... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first thought upon reading this article: One step closer to virtual pussy =D

  18. question by NoGuffCheck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does it have a volume control? Can you calobrate it to my girlfriend? How soon can you get it to me? and here's all my money!

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    1. Re:question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you could increase the volume that someone percieves their voice as being as it might make them talk more quietly.

    2. Re:question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's one here.

  19. Head movements by saskboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Better get a second layer on those tinfoil hats!"

    Or just don't put on the headgear that controls you.

    Either way, I'm not going to work at any job that requires me to wear this remote control, unless it's wireless. Wearing headgear all day with a wire attached would probably give me a sore neck by causing restricted head movements.

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    1. Re:Head movements by einhverfr · · Score: 1

      Either way, I'm not going to work at any job that requires me to wear this remote control, unless it's wireless. Wearing headgear all day with a wire attached would probably give me a sore neck by causing restricted head movements.

      I wonder if you could shorten it out with a strand of tinfoil stretching from electrode to electrode.

      Gives a whole new meaning to the term tinfoil hat....

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    2. Re:Head movements by Tinned_Tuna · · Score: 1

      What happens when they start putting remote control devices in the tinfoil hats? I'm worried.

  20. Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new inner-ear remote-control overlords.

    1. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But they made you say that, didn't they?

    2. Re:Obligatory... by c_forq · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean remote control bearing overlords? I mean they wouldn't really be overloads if we could control them by a remote.

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    3. Re:Obligatory... by bettlebrox · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia your inner-ear remote controls the overlords ... er hold on, have I the geist of this?

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  21. That would have been handy... by Funakoshi · · Score: 3, Funny

    A mute button for the folks would have been handy when I was a teenager...I'd be a much better guitar player today...

  22. confirmed dupe by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:confirmed dupe by SeventyBang · · Score: 1



      It just goes to show you how stringent the entrance requirements must be to get onto the /. "editorial board".

      ;}

    2. Re:confirmed dupe by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1
      Doncha get it? It's a remote control that forces people to post dupes on Slashdot.

      Brilliant!

    3. Re:confirmed dupe by Verne · · Score: 1

      There was also a system the same as this reported on slashdot back in 98.
      So far I've been unable to find it though. If anyone finds it, let me know.

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  23. remote control? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as long as you have their headset on?

  24. All humans are remote controlled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    In a sense all humans have always been "remote controlled": biologically and socio-culturally.
    These "remote controls" are actually extremely sophisticated.
    I wonder who holds the patent on them.

  25. You'll know when the end is near... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...when the feds mandate we all wear government headphones.

  26. This could be taken to an extreme... by Daedalus-Ubergeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean just wait till the BSDM community gets hold of this!

    1. Re:This could be taken to an extreme... by GungaDan · · Score: 1

      You probably mean BDSM. The BSDMavens would just use the device to convert linux users.

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  27. RFC 1149-2 - IPviaH? by slashbob22 · · Score: 1

    Firstly, why would a Telco be developing this technology? It doesn't appear to further their business.

    Then it dawned on me. With Avian Flu concerns, sending packets via that method is dangerous RFC 1149. Obviously if the Telco's controlled humans, they could deliver packets with them via a maximum of 6 hops (six degrees of separation).

    I for one welcome our new communication specification. Long live IPviaH.

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  28. VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE by Khyber · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sony had something similar, but not as capable, as this a year or so back. And it's still vaporware, unless "They're working out bugs."

    Forget the second tinfoil layer, people. Be content in the fact that until you willingly strap a device to your head, you're safe.

    Ignore the fact that I'm drunk right now, but I will *NEVER* put one of these things on my head. I'll stick with "subliminal messages thru sneaky frames included in films.

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    1. Re:VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE by slashbob22 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Vapourware indeed. In fact, I hear it is to be included in Duke Nukem Forever.

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    2. Re:VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE by bradkittenbrink · · Score: 2, Funny

      Forget the second tinfoil layer, people. Be content in the fact that until you willingly strap a device to your head, you're safe.

      My feelings exactly, besides, these aren't the droids I was looking for anyways...

    3. Re:VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE by kesuki · · Score: 1

      well, it's not even mind control people, all it does is overide the electrical signal the inner ear sends the brain so you loose your sense of balance... and yeah they're 'working out the bugs' those inner ear nerves control vomiting and sea/car sickness duh, great, a product that makes video games so fun you'll puke wow... that's one hell of a bug and i don't think they can engineer it away completely, just weaken the current til most people don't get nasious... it would work neat for theme park rides, instead of 'motion actuators' you could just feed a slight electrical current into the ears of the riders, and have the same wrenching and lurching sensations without having to do anything except show a movie on a screen.

    4. Re:VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  29. there's old analog tech that does it better... by wherrera · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Consider the effects of a gun at your back, or even the slave driver's whip :-/

    1. Re:there's old analog tech that does it better... by Reziac · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But you could choose to defy the gun or the whip (albeit with potentially dire consequences; nonetheless, the choice still exists). You might not be physically *able* to defy this gizmo.

      If such a device were available in a high-powered, long-range model (defined as a few hundred metres) then crowd control might be possible whether the crowd consented to be controlled or not -- just make them all wobble off in the desired direction.

      Warfare becomes a matter of "He with the strongest broadcast, and/or the best tinfoil hats, wins".

      Bank being robbed? No problem, just turn on the brain buzzer and make everyone in the building fall helpless to the floor. Then when the tinfoil-hat-equipped cops arrive, they can sort out the perps from the customers. Of course, smart crooks soon arm themselves not with guns, but rather with tinfoil hats.

      Meanwhile, some folk hit by these brain-buzzers are permanently damaged, and spend the rest of their days careening in circles.

      Farfetched, yeah, but such are the logical extensions, given sufficient broadcast power.

      Best of all, chainmail headgear could come back in fashion!

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  30. Related Article by SpaceAdmiral · · Score: 3, Informative

    Scientific American had a very interesting article on the history of this sort of thing. Unfortunately, you probably have to pay for that article if you don't already subscribe.

    1. Re:Related Article by NVP_Radical_Dreamer · · Score: 1

      So why post an article that we have to pay for? Everyone knows that geeks dont have REAL money. The only cash we get is from farming on WOW

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  31. How about for dogs? by Bemmu · · Score: 1

    I would like a remote control for dogs so I wouldn't have to bother walking them every morning. Or more like autopilot.

  32. Nice... by pyro+jackelope · · Score: 1

    "The developers hope to use this with video games and other entertainment, but it might also be used as a weapon to disable people."

    Well, no crap...hackers would have a field day with this.

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    1. Re:Nice... by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      > Well, no crap.
      Soutpark already did that (the brown noise.) so ya when this is hacked to create crap in the pants, that'll really make a stink.
      (At least no one will worry about the hot java GTA hack anymore.)

  33. Wha--?! by werewolf1031 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Daaaamn, and here I thought I was simply drunk and listening to headphones...

    You mean that's NOT Corrosion of Conformity in my head?!

  34. Implanted Feraday cage by Tekoneiric · · Score: 1

    How about implanting a thin mesh of titanium wire under the skin to protect you. It'd be better if it were a superconductor though. Get sent to the electric chair? No problem!

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      Now if only titanium had the electical and magnetical properties to actually make this work.

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  35. weaponization unlikely by EngMedic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    in order to weaponize this system, you'd have to figure out how to attatch electrodes behind the lobes of someone's ears at range -- and i challenge anyone to figure out how to do THAT. As it stands, vestibular stim is a cool new idea on how to improve balance control in risky environments (high iron construction workers faced with strong winds?), or the elderly and people with some form of vestibular impairment. I know of at least once case of essentially permanent dizziness, in which the patient suffered an accident that took out half of the vestibular system, so he is only getting feedback from one side of his body.

    As a student at one of the big universities where balance control and vestibular control is studied -- let me be the first to say that all of this is HIGHLY alpha. At best, it's proof-of-concept only. I wouldn't be worried about being "remote controlled" -- but hey, add this to a VR sim and things might get better than the crappy sim software/hardware that we've had since the mid90's -- or do some of the stuff i mentioned above.

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    1. Re:weaponization unlikely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .... what about guantanamo, hmmmm?

    2. Re:weaponization unlikely by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It might not be usable as a weapon really, but it could conceivably be used on prisoners, for example. Or, for that matter, on suspects who're not willing to cooperate during an interrogation.

      I'm not sure about you, but I feel distinctly uncomfortable with both these scenarios.

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    3. Re:weaponization unlikely by adamruck · · Score: 1

      We can barely get robots that we can fully control to do anything more than a shuffle, the only running robot I have ever seen can only do so on a flat surface with no obsticles and no wind. I sure as hell wouldn't want any balance "help" from a computer.

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    4. Re:weaponization unlikely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This could however be used by governments to render enemies of the state paralyzed. Imagine a unregistered minivan pulling up beside you with some suits which wrestle you down and apply this to your ear then run the "simon says be a vegetable" program on you. They take you away, never to be seen, or heard of again. There's no escape because you are for all intents and purposes a vegatable.

      Even if that sounds paranoid, imagine the number of date-rape increases that would result from easy access to this. If NTT can produce such a thing and market it like a game accessory it would only take some electronics nerd who cannot get a girlfriend a few days to come up with a program like this.

    5. Re:weaponization unlikely by Anti_Climax · · Score: 2, Funny

      You realize all this does is mess with your balance by stimulating the nerves for your inner ear, Right? This isn't mind control. I don't think you'd get much from an interrogation with something like "Tell us what we want to know or we'll make you lean to one side"

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    6. Re:weaponization unlikely by EngMedic · · Score: 1

      thank you for so nicely putting what i didn't feel like explaining.

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    7. Re:weaponization unlikely by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      You wrote: "you'd have to figure out how to attatch electrodes behind the lobes of someone's ears at range".

      What do you think those Ipod headphones are really for?

    8. Re:weaponization unlikely by Evolt's+RonL. · · Score: 1

      you'd have to figure out how to attatch electrodes behind the lobes of someone's ears at range -- and i challenge anyone to figure out how to do THAT

      Too easy dude!

      Attach them to the ear pieces on a special edition "Neener-neener" iPod. The enemy will pay *you* to control them!

      Or better yet, pay me, after all - it was my idea. ;-P

  36. Already exists by wombatmobile · · Score: 1

    ...a remote control for manipulating humans through electrical stimulation of the inner ear nerves.

    Women have used a similar technique to control men for thousands of years, but they don't focus on the ears.

  37. Remote Control? by faqmaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We should get the whole 'local control' thing down first.

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  38. How to get infinite funding by pbaer · · Score: 1

    Add multiple restraining straps that can only be removed by a key, fingerprint, iris scan combo. Voila you can now recieve defense funding. With that funding find a way to insert it in a person and control them remotely through satellite broadcasts no matter where they are. Then add a self-discruct/kill this person NOW command. Now market this as an upper and get lots of people to implant it in themselves. Bam world-domination!

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  39. Sounds like fun. by Dr.+Mystery · · Score: 1

    So buggy games all of a sudden become deadly. Fun!

  40. ipod? by halalalikwan · · Score: 1

    They say they want apple to implement this into ipod? Good idea. Put it on shuffle and shuffle out into rush hour traffic. Woot!

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  41. Headline phrasing? by originalnih · · Score: 0

    I was wondering? Why everything has to end in question marks? I bet it wasn't even a question?

    Don't forget to pick up the milk on the way home?

    If slashdot makes any money, it should invest some of it in real columnists and editors, not nerds who have mastered copy-and-paste. Oh, and tunnel vision. And amnesia.

    Fuck it, you're right. Slashdot already has a team of editors highly trained in stupidity and repetition. And stupidity. Wait, make that: And stupidity?

    1. Re:Headline phrasing? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, I parsed this thing as "Remote Control [designed] for Humans." I was thinking "Great! Finally I can program that VCR."
      Sadly, it's just another tool for turning excess humans into golems. Sigh.

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    2. Re:Headline phrasing? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Yeah, I parsed this thing as "Remote Control [designed] for Humans." I was thinking "Great! Finally I can program that VCR."
      Sadly, it's just another tool for turning excess humans into golems. Sigh."


      Only on Slashdot would people think an easier to program VCR is cooler than turning humans into golems.

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    3. Re:Headline phrasing? by originalnih · · Score: 0

      The golem market has already been cornered by the Slashdot employment policy.

  42. Martha Stewart by HermanAB · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Didn't O'l Martha wear one for a while?

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  43. weaponization very likely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you might be able do it with the latest long distance taser like plasma projectors. Instead of the wires they project plasma, then send the disabling current like a normal taser. Sorry, no link, but I think it was covered here last year. So, for remote control, instead of a disabling current, just the small current that induces the sense of falling, or nausea, or what-ever-have you. I bet DARPA et al is all over this sort of tech in the black ops areas. Imagine if they could project over an entire region a current that makes people just walk in small circles, or just lay down or i makes them so nauseous all they can do is huddle and barf their brains out, or running screaming in fear from..nothing.. Complete control at the flick of a switch. What would tech like that be worth in terms of military industrial complex dollars? Mega billions? If this level of tech is what is admitted to in public, just think occams razor, past historical precedent of them throwing serious cash at every weapon system imaginable, and extrapolate how far along they might be in the skunk works areas. We only get to see on the public internet stuff that is maybe three steps down (someting like that) from currently running and prototyped.

    1. Re:weaponization very likely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Occam's razor is not usually used to support random claims of unknown secret uber-technology...

    2. Re:weaponization very likely by EngMedic · · Score: 1

      i do not think that plasma/ionized air conductive methods will work, for a couple of reasons. One, the method itself is extremeley new -- so applying it to an equally new application (vestibular balance modification) is unlikely simply because both technologies aren't developed enough. Second is the issue of precision. a charge imbalance must be applied across the head to affect balance -- and it must be done in locations that are close enough to vestibular neurons to transmit this imbalance to them. There are only two places to do that -- that bony lump right behind your ear. It would be very, very difficult to build a tracking system capable of independendly locking on, and tracking, two very small targets on a moving body. The math behind that, and the computational power needed, is stunningly high for such a "simple" task.

      Additionally, your idea of a "remote control field" simply doesn't hold water, again based on the fact that the charge imbalance targeting MUST be so precise. Simply setting up some kind of field of charge (which ain't gonna happen in air, by the way) won't work.

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  44. Pentagon's wet dream by vandan · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    While I don't see this being used directly as a weapon, I can see the Pentagon plucking the National Guard from their shoot-to-kill mission in New Oraq, wiring them up with these headsets, and sending them off to Iraq Senior. With these devices, you can make damned sure your wet-behind-the-ears recruits will run full-speed into a hostile situtation without stopping to think about the possible danger to themselves.

    And it won't be long before they can control more than just running in a particular direction. Next step: that pesky trigger finger.

  45. My question... by atomic-penguin · · Score: 1

    My question is this. Will it run on my boss?

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  46. OMG! Jingles by Assassin+bug · · Score: 1

    Ever had a commercial jingle that you just couldn't get out of your head? Ouch.

    1. Re:OMG! Jingles by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 1

      Hot Dogs, Armour Hot Dogs
      What kind of kids love Armour Hot Dogs?
      Big kids, little kids, kids who climb on rocks
      fat kids, skinny kids, even kids with chicken pox
      love Hot Dogs, Armour Hot Dogs
      The dogs kids love to bite!

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  47. Apple uses this technology already... by mtec · · Score: 1

    ...in the silhouette iPod ads. 'Course the shipping earpods have that feature turned off. Most of those people are Quickie Mart clerks with no dancing skills at all.

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  48. In soviet russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the remotes control you!

  49. Tinfoil Earplugs for sale by killa62 · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I know these are all the rage these days, with the brain-controlling overlords which I, for one do not welcome.
    I'm selling a set of 2!!! earplugs for your ears, at only 159.00 INCLUDING shipping.
    You better stock up on these, or else the overlords will get you.
    GET THEM NOW before its too late!

  50. new tinfoil attire by LordMaxxon · · Score: 1

    ... /me builds tinfoil earmuffs...

  51. And yet again by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    In deep space 9 with a dead uh.. founder guy thingie.

    I like star trek for their original plots.

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    1. Re:And yet again by EtherealStrife · · Score: 1
      IIRC it was a vorta named Keevan, who was being held by the Ferengi (who were given the vorta by Starfleet as a gift). There was a prisoner exchange for Quark's mother, Moogie (sp?), but in a squabble right before the exchange one of the ferengi shot Keevan accidentally.
      "I hate Ferengi." - famous last words

      The proposed solution by Rom was to hook up devices to electrically stimulate the muscles/neurons, and tie it all in to a remote control. That way they could "walk" Keevan's lifeless corpse over to the Vorta conducting the exchange, and take off before anyone was the wiser.
      (what can I say, I'm a trekkie :-D)

  52. Tinfoil Hats and Orwellian Societies by Z34107 · · Score: 1

    From what the article said, it only affects balance, i.e., you walk to the right because the electrical stimulation inside your ear makes you feel as though your balance is off. I s'pose that by wearing t3h headgear, someone could make you walk off a cliff... or stamp an embarrassing message into the sand.... or make you fall down.

    Don't use headphones from strangers! :-D

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  53. Was at Siggraph by spitzak · · Score: 1

    This was demoed at Siggraph in Los Angeles in the Emerging Technologies booth. It really appeared it worked, people wearing it stumbled around like they were drunk, but could really be made to stumble in a desired direction. I did not get to try it, there was a very long line. But surely there is somebody reading Slashdot who did.

  54. I saw this at Siggraph this year by wbattestilli · · Score: 3, Informative

    Didn't try it because of the really long line. It was probably the coolest thing in the Emerging Technologies area. Anyway...basically it can make you drift left or right while walking by messing with your sense of balance ( inner ear ). People were dramatically affected at first but many people were able to compensate after only a few seconds. While cool, it is hardly as dramatic as the article would suggest.

  55. Well that's it for the old ultra violence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More for the sophistos to keep me and the malchicks down.

    They'll do for our rassodocks real horrorshow. </ClockworkOrange>

  56. Can I use it to... by Brad1138 · · Score: 1

    Get my wife to clean the house?

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    1. Re:Can I use it to... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      I had a somewhat similar thought about my wife but not cleaning the house, cleaning something else...

    2. Re:Can I use it to... by moro_666 · · Score: 1

      I guess a control with a mute button would suit most husbands to control their wives :)

      Other than that, i think it's a bad idea even to consider remote control of humans. But ofcourse some countries are very interested in it, like china and russia the usa. My own country is luckily so small that here an attempt to control anyone will probably end up someone else controlling you and thats about it.

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      Dude, you can make your wife do aaaaaanything you want her to do.

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  57. One word: by blake213 · · Score: 1
    Mute button!

    =D

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    1. Re:One word: by blake213 · · Score: 1

      In the excitement, it seems I forgot how to count. Two words.

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  58. SDRP - Six Degrees Routing Protocol by SpectralDesign · · Score: 1

    Actually, wouldn't that be a minimum of 6 hops? Each router needs to guess the best next-hop, and that really opens the door to an inadvertent looping function in the protocol - how could we address this?

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  59. about time by icleprechauns · · Score: 1

    finally, this will actually work!

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  60. in defense of the foil by apt_user · · Score: 5, Funny
    Please, I beg you all, stop making sarcastic remarks about the healthful benefits of alluminum foil headwear. Such devices are proven to be effective protection against a variety of stressors - both theoretical and non - which could cause irreversible damage to our inner cortexes, including but not limited to: electrostatic radiation, photonic radiation (both below and above the visible spectrum), direct sunlight, sonic intonations, unvoiced alveolar fricatives, exosolar radiation, sublunar electrostaticity, supraterrestrial automotive frustration, undefined free radicals, affective spherical earth rhetoric, ectoplasmic goo, artificial nonterrestrial mental affectae, habeus corpus, quantum relativity, venetian sausage, psychological longitudinal surveys, cathode ray tube emissions (both dynamic and static), retrograde motion, reversed cognitive flotation, vulcan mind melds, social mobility, dyslexic antithetical mythology, imablance of the four humors, dentistry, meeting the love of your life, recieving a darwin award, overseasonned exotic foods, strongbad's email, end-user liscence aggreements, and ketchup.

    Please take the time to consider these and other reasons to treat alluminum foil as a reasonable, effective form of alternative preventitive medicine for everyone's mental well-being.

    -apt

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    1. Re:in defense of the foil by jswalter9 · · Score: 1

      The problem is that unless you encase your whole head, the stuff that comes in through your face gets reflected around your brain a few times.

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  61. soviet japan by truckaxle · · Score: 0, Redundant

    In soviet Japan remote control controls you....

  62. It already exists by James+Jones · · Score: 1

    It's called "television" and it's a potent control tool for governments.

  63. How to get everyone to wear it... by kn0tw0rk · · Score: 0

    ... I think this was covered in a Sponge Bob Squarepants movie ....
    Offer it as part of a meal deal at Micky D's, as a funky set of head gear, maybe similar to an ipod.

    On a different track of thought, I wonder how well the technology works on other primates. If so there could be some serious monkey business to be had :)

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    1. Re:How to get everyone to wear it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a 100 ways to get people to wear it. The 2 which seem the easiest to implement are:

      1. Head to the inner-cities/projects and recruit the homeless by pointing a gun and say "wear it!". Nobody will miss them anyway.
      2. Institute laws requiring people to wear it to effectively turn a potential criminal off (just freeze him/her) in the event of a crime. If you think this cannot happen remember that cars have similar functionality which allows police to turn off the engine of stolen vehicles. Also remember that using DeCSS is illegal because it COULD be used for pirating and not because it must. People are the same, they MIGHT be evil and therefore having a convenient button to turn them off will be a nice tool.

      Once its on, it's safe to say that it will be on forever. The first models will likely be fashionable ear-rings or clips. The next model will be a tag whose only means of removal would be cutting off one's ears. You will be completely trapped. No longer a free human-being. You will be a drone with an IP address, a GPS tracker and an instruction buffer. As the legions grow and the supplies of ear-tags become plentiful enough (one of your jobs is of course to make said ear-tags), those in control will stage aggressive assimilation missions locally and abroad and multiply the numbers.

      What will life be like as a drone?

      In the best of scenarios you may get to live/be yourself most of the time. You might live with your family and have friends. The ear tags will become a daily fact of life and you'll go about your job and limited control of you may even be granted to your employer for whatever they deem fit.

      In the worst of scenarios you will be paralized when not useful. Your eyes may move and you'll be able to see your surroundings but you won't be able to talk or move until a threat arises like the proximity of a non-tagged person or a dangerous animal whereby you'll instantly implement remoted martial arts and overcome the threat. Then you'll be turned off again. The next day you might be called upon to assimilate others.

      In either case before either of the above scenarios takes place a trend making the ear tag popular will be implemented. You will be augmented by wearing it by offering other embedded functionality like opening key-less locks (no more forgetting your keys), electronic money (just stand close enough to a scanner above your head), cell phone functionality, etc... Eventually not having one will make you an outcast. Currently 60+% of the entire Japanese population uses a cell phone. That's over 70 million people in a nation of 130 million. Not having a cell phone is only forgiven if you are elderly or a toddler. Companies don't even contact their employees by home phone anymore and have lists of everybody's cell phone numbers.

      Japan will be the first nation to implement the ear-clip. It will get bad press when some kids die from playing an online game to which a hacker issued "stop-lung-pumping" logic. People will get riled up then all of a sudden the next big news item will be yet another milk-tainting scandal by Snow-brand dairy products which will soon too be forgetten (and already has been for the 3rd time). The issue will come up every now and again with ear-clip date rape cases overtaking those of roofies and how the Watanabe family found their runaway boy after programming him to find the nearest policebox to report himself. "Ear-clip" will enter daily vocabulary and maybe even overtake MP3 as a search term online. BDSM Hackers will find ways to program themselves to be their own sub and murderers will program assasins with sudden cases of deja-vu after the deed is done. Life will be forever different but will be adjustable.

      Progress on making an ear clamp, then an ear-tag (think cow tracking), then an injectable node will come and upgrading will be subsidized by companies and offered with the company-wide medical check once every year. Nobody will dare object (if you don't know why you need to le

  64. I'lll take one as an alarm clock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It could march me out of bed preset to steer me to the shower and away from the computer.

  65. Not a second layer by fireman+sam · · Score: 3, Funny

    You just need to fashon a tinfoil had that has those very attractive ear flaps.

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  66. They Live. We Sleep. What has science done?! by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    We are now certain beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans can be manipulated against their free will.

    If it can be used for evil, it will BE used for evil.

    Being forced to conform to an ideology that is not our own. Being forced to consume things that we do not need. Being forced to obey instructions even if we knew for certain that those things are wrong.

    What's not to stop the forces of man to make me swallow a pill the next time I have a headache and waking up disoriented and some where I don't want to be?

    Will I become a Manchurian candidate, programmed against my free will and soulless? Will they work ever so hard to break my spirit so that no thought exists except for the few who control it?

    What about the applications to other media? Television, Radio, and Telephone. It is terrible enough people rush to their pharmacist whenever Oprah suggest taking medication. What's not to say she won't force everyone who does not like here to become as pathetic as those who aren't being manipulated?

    There MUST be a way to beat it! Otherwise the world will be that of John Carpenter's They Live (1998 http://www.theofficialjohncarpenter.com/pages/them ovies/tl/tl.html/ )

    WAKE UP BEFORE THEY PUT US TO SLEEP!

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  67. At Siggraph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Saw this demonstrated at Siggraph. Showed various levels of response but was pretty interesting to watch

  68. Hurt NTT's Taro Maeda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taro Maeda and anybody else who would turn humans into borg...

    You should be severely hurt/injured.

  69. remote control humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i hold my glock to your head and you do what i say G

  70. Completely likely given enough time by headkase · · Score: 1

    ... you'd have to figure out how to attatch electrodes behind the lobes of someone's ears ...

    Duh! Everyone knows in the 23rd century The Law regulators are installed at birth.

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  71. About Those Foil Hats by queenb**ch · · Score: 1

    Given that "tinfoil" is really aluminium, it will conduct electricity. If I'm understanding this correctly, won't putting a "second layer on the tinfoil hat" have...ummm...an undesirable outcome? Now, if you were to ground the hat, you might have something. Perhaps if you made sure that you were always standing in a puddle of saltwater?

    As for getting people to wear the "required headware", outfit it so that it will just shove a big mac or a krispy kreme in their mouth at the push of a button. That'll get about 90% of the overweight American population to willingly don the thing, no matter what else it does to them.

    2 rather cynical cents,

    Queen B

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  72. Singularity stuff. by headkase · · Score: 1

    What would be even more insidious is the idea of some kind of intelligence amplified so greatly verses your own that you could be just going about your merry way doing every thing of your own free will but in a human imperceivable way completely controlled by said super-intelligence.

    See the Empire Ship entry on Orion's Arm for a snippet that refers to the idea.
    That kind of remote control would really suck.

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  73. But then by einhverfr · · Score: 1

    There is a disease where people lose the ability to use their inner ears for balance (Menier's disease).

    I would expect that people who had it for a period of time would be more or less immune to these weapons, being in the state you describe so constantly that their brain eventually adjusts (though the guy I knew with this ailment wore heavy boots to provide other sources of balance feedback)...

    Who knows, maybe there will be a new job market for those with Menier's Disease...

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  74. SIGGRAPH by rdamazio · · Score: 1

    This is not as new...it was presented in this year's SIGGRAPH, in the Emerging Technologies section. There we could try it out, and we actually remotely controlled our friends, and it really works - they told you to walk straight wearing this special device, and then someone else would control what path you'd actually take with a remote control.

  75. It's official, humans are property. by elucido · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Remote control allows for more efficiently slavery.

  76. Current Addict? by JollyRogerX · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, this sounds more like the droud from Larry Niven's Tales of Gil the ARM than anything else. Is this going to produce a generation of current addicts?

  77. Tinfoil hats are mind-control antennas! by Temporal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Research done at MIT shows that tinfoil hats actually amplify government mind control beams. Because they are not fully enclosed, they actually end up acting as a sort of antenna. Yes, that's right: Wearing a tinfoil hat is exactly what the shadow government wants you to do!

  78. Tin foil ain't gonna cut by Belseth · · Score: 1

    I'm upgrading to lead foil.

  79. I think I have one of these.. by ehrichweiss · · Score: 4, Interesting
    no seriously...I do. Back a few years ago there was an invention that was released called MotionWare aka Virtual Motion. It worked with 3 electrodes: one on your forehead and 2 on the mastoid process, that boney region behind your ears(sound familiar?). It affects the inner ear. Forward, backward, left, right, and if the visuals were good, up and down. There were apparently less than 100 prototypes built...I have one. Often thought of selling it to someone who would use it better than I since my original plan fell through. I might be glad I kept it.

    I did get an interesting effect from it: due to the high resistance of my skin I have to turn the device WAY up to get any response and during the strongest pulses, I saw flashes of light that were not present outside of my optic nerve(it wasn't arcing in other words).

    Anyway, as I read the article, it's less about remote control humans and more about being able to affect what they are feeling which is scary but with this version they'd have to sneak up on you and covertly put these things on your skull...with good electrode contact..and probably lube to prevent burning. If it does use the same technology as what I have then you need to know that there are 3 different ways(at least) that we sense motion and the inner ear is only one. The other two are visual and the type of feeling you get in your joints when you accelerate on, say, a bus; this is aka proprioceptive I think. If they didn't have something that would give you a slightly harder time to keep your balance(we used the Tempurpedic(tm) memory foam because it shifts acording to the weight and temperature. Without this, you don't feel any shift in your joints so if your visual environment didn't move either, you'd mostly discard the signal. It's because of the "rule" of 'virtual reality': you have to fool 2 of the 3 ways we sense motion for the brain to accept it as real. And despite all this, with a slight amount of concentration, you can see through the illusion. Maybe what they have is different..I'll have to research to find out now.

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    1. Re:I think I have one of these.. by cr0sh · · Score: 1

      AH! That is the company I am thinking about when I posted this response - you actually have one of these! Cool! I have always wanted to know more about this device (one of the cool pieces of VR tech I will never likely aquire), how well it worked and such - your post has been interesting in this regard. Email me, I would be interested in hearing more about it...

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    2. Re:I think I have one of these.. by ehrichweiss · · Score: 1

      Ya know, I've been a member of this site for 2 years...I'll be damned if I know how to email someone here...heh. Can I reach you through the phoenixgarage site?

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    3. Re:I think I have one of these.. by cr0sh · · Score: 1

      Yes, I have a form mail page on the site...

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  80. Used for Learning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article mentions using this technology to allow people to experience what it's like to be in a racecar or to feel the motions of an olympic competitor. Couldn't this technology be used to teach people to move like an olympian? Maybe, if combined with training, it could speed up learning a new sport or technique. Wait, I'm forgetting, this is Slashdot, does anybody here know what sports are? :P

  81. From the Spock's Brain department... by jhoger · · Score: 1

    Usually Star Trek, even the original show is not cheesy. Hard sci-fi it ain't but they usually don't give the impression they think their viewers are idiots.

    But "Spock's Brain" is definitely some stinky cheese. Aside from Star Trek V, and the next gen episode where everyone devolves into creatures which, mostly they didn't actually evolve from (so bad I have never looked back to learn the name of the episode).

    Actually, I try to predict the byline on Slashdot stories and I think this is definitely from the missed opportunity department...

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  82. You already did this story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why should I provide the link? You're making the money. downhill it keeps going

  83. movie by defMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    I saw this some time ago (august 5) on Engadget. That story also linked to a movie of a remote controlled girl.

    Enjoy.

  84. Homebuilt Galvanic Vestibular Stimulation Devices by Bandwidth_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most anyone (here (I'd hope)) can build a working galvanic vestibulator in their home for under $5. It's just a 0.1hz~70hz squarewave sinking ~20 milliamps of current through your neck. You can easily do that with a 555 in astable mode (R1=2kOhm,R2=26kOhm,C=.1uF--it'll have a frequency of about 27hz and a duty cycle near %50), a 9v battery or two, some pennies, cotton, and a bit of saltwater. Place the ghetto electrodes beind your ears. Play with the frequency in the above range by using knob potentiometers. I've found ~15-30hz to be best.

    Even more fun can be had with a cheap Atmel ATtiny2313 8bit microcontroller (or PIC if you're that type). They cost about ~$2 each but you can sample them from large manufacturers for free (I've sampled 9 ATtiny2313 for free now). They can be programmed right from the serial port in simple (you can ignore the LEDs, but hey leave them in and you have a persistance of vision toy too), or slightly less simple manners.

    If you just want to test the effect out then just the 9vs, a few pennies, some cotton, salt water, and a little wire will do. Simply series the batteries and make electrodes out of the materials previously mentioned, warm water works best. Apply the electrodes to your mastoid proccesses and you'll feel the 'acceleration'...and a bit of stinging, but not too bad. (It'd be best if you had a soldering iron, but you could go without if really needed.)

  85. Bang! by tchernobog · · Score: 1

    The developers hope to use this with video games and other entertainment

    Did anybody ever play ''Syndacate wars''?

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    1. Re:Bang! by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      > The developers hope to use this with video games and other entertainment

      why just video games, think of nfl, and nba. quaterback doesn't have to give the entire route, he just nudges them to the ball (or coach whatever.)

      ever since the first nfl video game I played, I wanted to devise a cheat healment/goggles with a led telling the reciever or defender the balls on it's way look now. (or the QB you got a big man headed your way.)
      but now that you could stuff it in the mouth piece, all the better.

  86. NWCC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need a new UN treaty to ban developing any form of electromagnetic or partice based mind control and declare its use a crime against humanity, just like chemical and biological warfare. Then we can hunt down the scientists and engineers who develop it.

  87. ObligFuturama by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 2, Funny

    Obligatory (mutilated) Futurama:

    Leela: "Didn't you have remote controls in the 20th century?"

    Fry: "Well sure, but not for humans! Only for tv and radio...and stereos...and DVD Players. And for air conditioning, blinds, and toy cars, and Robosapiens, and banana label machines, and Nintendo. But not for humans! No sirree."

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  88. This headgear should run at 1984 MHz frequency! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This mind control headgear will be used to restrict the movement of prioners. They will be unable to walk in anything but in circles, round and around, so they have no chance to escape from the prison's courtyard.

    It will be used by police and SWATs to force expendable people act as a courier or a human shield in hostage taking situations. Think Chechnya.

    Then it will be advertised as beneficial for the entire population and it will be surgically implanted in every newborn baby. You will not be able to march in protest any more for you will be forcibly reversed, but will be compelled to walk whenever the gov't wants to make a big self-glorification parade march the soviet russian / north korean style.

    It will be used to impose racial zoning, for blacks' headgears will forcibly turn them away from white-only areas or seats. Poor Rosa Parks died in vain.

    This thingie is the end of free will and civil liberties as we know it. I just can't understand why all the grandparents of those japanese scientists failed to arrive at Hirosima by early 6 August 1945... We would not have this great fear then.

  89. Spock's Brain by payndz · · Score: 2, Funny
    Everyone laughed at the Star Trek episode 'Spock's Brain' for its claim that you could control a person's body with nothing more than electronic headgear and a remote control.

    Who's laughing now? [Tick... tick... tick...]

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  90. Whot??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the Big Brother Viewscreen not effective eough anymore???

  91. I'm already there.... by FrankieBegbie · · Score: 1

    "...through electrical stimulation of the inner ear nerves." Sounds just like my cochlear implant - does that mean I should start wearing a lot of stealth black now?

  92. Why "disturbing implications"? by Viol8 · · Score: 1

    Whats so disturbing about being able to put people off balance (which
    is all it really is)? You can do that now with various forms of gas
    or if you really want to control a crowd , you can use bullets. If
    I had the choice between some inner ear stimulation and a bullet in
    my chest or breathing in some form of nerve gas I know which I'd
    choose!

  93. Attach something to your head? by KlausBreuer · · Score: 1

    No, of course you won't do this out of your own free will.
    But once you get arrested for something you've never heard of (probably whistling a copyrighted tune), the cops will put this thing on your head and place you in a cell.
    See, knowing that torture is now legal in the USA, they're well aware that you'd *seriously* try to get away - and using this thing, you'll docily do exactly as you're told.

    Have fun living in the USA, home of the free. I won't.

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    1. Re:Attach something to your head? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A 'halo' device from Minority Report, woo!

  94. Hmmmm by einolu · · Score: 1

    Hmmm "Remote control humans through ear device for entertaining results..." Just sounds kind of funny when you say it outloud.

  95. Please no tarantulas by The+I+Shing · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just as long as no-one uses this technology to make me do something gross, like eat a tarantula (a la Red Dwarf...)

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  96. Obligatory Dilbert quote by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1
    PHB: And we'll need to have you wear this collar at all times so we'll know your location.
    Dilbert (thinking): A collar... well, at least it's not a leash.
    PHB: Oh, and you'll have to wear this 10-foot extension cord at all times too.

    Ok, probably only roughly similar to the original dialogue... trying to summon it from misty memory.

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  97. Oh God no by merm · · Score: 1

    I have a friend who is absolutely convinced that there are people outside their house every night using microwaves to brainwash them. Now there's TWO stories on slashdot at once that could be easily manipulated to "support" their claims. My friend's house is going to be completely covered in tin foil. Thanks alot Slashdot

  98. Interrogation purposes by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    Except the way that this works it with messing with the inner-ear balance. As I understand it, most sophisticated interrogation involves disorientation of the subject more than it does pain. Putting the person through 8 hours of feeling like they're whirling at high speed might work, particularly if coupled with other techniques.

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    1. Re:Interrogation purposes by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      ofc if you are the milatery you probablly have the equipment to put them through 8 hours of actually whirling at high speed ;)

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  99. Getting home from the bar by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    Ah, just use a beer scooter like the rest of us.

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  100. In this size 10/6 by jitterysquid · · Score: 1

    Don't worry, I'm sure Batman can foil any would be evildoers.

  101. spy cats by displague · · Score: 1

    stick one of those bad boys on a feline or raticus (latin) and send him into the field equiped with a spycam. they can also be used to detonate mines... remotely.

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  102. Remote Control for Humans? by JFMulder · · Score: 1

    They're called women.

  103. Uh Oh!!!! by Pigeon+Holed · · Score: 1

    ... must. kill. pap. schmear. *clicking sound of gun with no ammo*

  104. This is an old invention. by spect3r · · Score: 1

    We already know Jean Chretien excersizes mind control over us Canadians; and I've been told ... the rest of the world!!! Pssst: Why do you think Canada didn't participate in the Iraq war? Because we fought from afar using our minds.. Silly Humans. :)

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  105. Just in from Paris, Milan, and New York: by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 1

    Tin hats are so yesterday. As any true conspiracy buff knows, the latest and greatest fashion trend requires accessorization. Now, it's not just the hats, but foil earmuffs that are all the rage!

    All of this is a brutal plot by the foil industry to double their sales to conspiracy nuts, who are about a third of their customer base.

  106. Minority Report by eheldreth · · Score: 1

    While I realize this device cannot turn a person into a robot, I wonder if it could be used to completly paralyze prisoners during transportation, or implanted so that they could be paralyzed durring a riot. I am assuming if you give a constant signle a person would adapt rather quickly(I have not RTFA) so you may need to alter the signle(from left to right or something).

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  107. Be careful... by cr0sh · · Score: 1
    For all you aspiring wire heads out there, be careful. What this guy says is mostly truth - it can and possibly will work, but realize that you are applying electrical stimulation to a portion of your nervous system. If done incorrectly, you too can become another Darwin Award winner. Be safe, and realize what you are doing.

    With that said, there was a company in the mid to late 1990's which tried to build a development market with a beta-test vestibular stimulator device, meant to be used with a VR HMD system, in order to help avoid or minimize simulator sickness by using such a system to simulate movement. IIRC, the device was a head mounted system that fit over your head, and had electrodes behind the ears (like the parent describes) and ones on your forehead (can't remember if it was one or two - placed in the center or to the sides just inside of the temples, respectively). They had beta-test units, and for something like $300.00 you could order a unit, plus an API for Windows (DirectX) that allowed you to control the device to simulate motion. It was said to work very well, but they became a casualty of the .COM bubble (and the VR hype bubble, too).

    Also know that these such vestibular stimulators have been used by the medical profession to treat and study such things as vertigo and such. These medical devices are probably similar in scope to the crude (though likely working!) device described by the parent. They are said to cause nausea, diziness, a sense of motion, etc - a very interesting thing to think about.

    Bandwidth - I would be very interested to hear more from you and your experiments...

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  108. Upgrading... by tedhiltonhead · · Score: 1

    Time for the tinfoil ski-mask!

  109. Hehehe, sweet revenge... by http101 · · Score: 1

    quit hittin' yourself... quit hittin' yourself! *smack, smack, smack* lol

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  110. Not better than my design by melgish · · Score: 1

    I fail to see how this electronic contraption can be better than my design which attaches to the barrel of a .357 magnum and allows you to control humans with simple, easy to learn, voice commands.

  111. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    isn't this a dupe? except last time they had the video of the reporter going around a field with this thing on

  112. Finally, My Come-Uppance Has Arrived! by Lotharus · · Score: 1

    (I think that's an obligatory Strong Sad quote... Anyway)

    *deep breath*

    Didn't Slashdot already cover this story within the past few months? I know I have read about this in the recent months. Some dude with a remote control can make people swerve as they walk.

    I feel like I have finally arrived as a /. reader, to recognize a dupe... I'm so proud!