For upgrading an OS 9 Mac to OS X, just stick the OS X CD in and install (booting off the CD of course). It'll dump a whole ton of crap all over your hard drive, but it won't touch any data already there (assuming you're using HFS+, which it's hard to imagine any Mac not using these days).
Of course, if you want to do fancy stuff like partitioning your drive for the option-boot trick and OS X swap, you'll need to erase everything. But if you just want to set up and go, it's perfectly safe to just install, to the best of my knowledge.
Nope, I have the late 2001 iBook, so bus speed is no difference. Both machines are 600 Mhz G3s with 256K L2 cache, too (checked Apple System Profiler to make sure). Perhaps this was true of the old (500 Mhz) iBooks, but I know mine is the same specs as my brother's iMac, save for RAM and HD. (I'm pretty sure the graphics cards are the same too...Rage 128.)
It might have been *more* true under 10.0.x, but it still holds true for 10.1, no doubt. I noticed going from 384 to 640 megs of RAM in my iBook, and my brother's iMac started screaming when he went from 256 megs to 1 gig. (The difference between my iBook with 640 and his iMac with a gig is quite noticeable too, though I bet that the hard drive speed also comes into play here.)
Ever read Dante's Inferno? It's not only a piece of literature, it's a political commentary. Boniface VIII is repeatedly revealed as power-hungry, lying, conniving, and every other abuse of power for personal gain one can imagine. He was, for Dante, the epitome of evil popes. It is not much of an exaggeration to say that using Boniface VIII as a reference for today's Catholic doctrine would be akin to using Genghis Kahn's policies as models for modern Mongolia.
That's very admirable. I think one of the hardest things to do is to maintain a consistent philosophy even when those who you once agreed with change their minds. I respect people who will stick to their guns (no pun intended) and actually follow their beliefs rather than blindly following their "leaders". Having read what you wrote, I respect the NRA for that (independently of how I feel about their philosophy).
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That's acutally a really cool idea. Would there be any chance of managing to organize something like that? I'd be willing, if I could find the means to do so (it's not too terribly a long haul from here to D.C.). Would it have any effect, besides earning a place on the FBI's shit list, though? I'd hope so...
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I've started carrying Orwell's 1984 around in my pocket with me now so that I can show people the parallels between it and what's going on in America today. I may have to buy more copies so I can start lending them out. This is absolutely ludicrous. Did Ashcroft ever consider that there were valid reasons for having those limitation on there in the first place??
The NRA's slogan "Vote Freedom First" seems kind of ludicrous when you consider that it was used in support of this administration. Mod me as flamebait if you must, but increased FBI powers and freedom are not in any way compatible.
On all fronts our freedom is being assaulted. Technological and now social. We don't even have a Congressman to write to and complain in this cse; where are the checks and balances on the FBI? Oh yes, in the hands of the man who just gave them broader powers. And, given their track record for reporting the information they receive to their superiors...
Call me a cynical conspiracy theorist, but you're assuming that we'd be TOLD that said "software-stars" are simply composites. I can't imagine it would be terribly hard for a studio to release a movie using composite characters without any mention that the stars are not real people. Any rumors that fly could easily be denied, squashed, or dismissed as urban legends by "authorities".
It all comes down to what course of action will make money, and if that means lying about prodcution methods, well then, by damn, that's what they'll do.
Damnit, you're not supposed to think about it! You're supposed to see the words "drug dealing", followed by a list of activities that the government dislikes, and connect it with the word "piracy" at the beginning of the sentence! Then you fight vigorously for corporations' right to stop piracy!
It amazes me what an intricate path information must follow through the mind of sheep. The really scary part is that this has a mild chance of being modded as "funny", considering how true it is.
Technology marches on...sure, public broadband acceptance is not exactly widespread yet, but just wait...how many years was 14.4k the norm? And 2800 bps before that?
Just wait until webpages require the amount of bandwidth that MP3s do today. By that point, bandwidth will be so huge that getting movies will be no greater a (relative) strain on bandwith than MP3s are today. Never going to happen, you say? Try surfing today's Internet with a 2800 bps modem.
The day will come when downloading movies will not create nearly the detectable spike that it does today...
I can't claim to be any kind of a Linux guru, but I've got Sid running on my iBook 600 and everything is working marginally well (save the internal modem, which is still a work in progress as I understand it...damn Apple decided to put a softmodem in here with this revision for some reason). If you run the BenH kernel, you should find yourself in decent shape, hardware support-wise. Sound works, USB works (as far as I can tell; all I've got plugged in is a mouse). The nice thing about putting Linux on this beastie is that you can steal other people's XF86Config-4 and kernel.config files, since they're all the same machine:)
I don't know exactly what would cause this problem, but I can say from experience that Macs do NOT automatically try to boot off of a CD unless they have first determined that there is no other volume (internal or external HD, floppy for those who have them, etc) that can be booted. And by the time it gets to that stage, it's long past the gray screen. Whatever the problem is, it is definitely NOT the Mac trying to "automatically" boot from the CD (and why the author felt it necessary to work in a dig on Apple's dumping the floppy, I'll never understand).
Does anyone find it ironic that, in an interview dealing with what most people would see as overly intrusive advertising, the interviewer specifically asked about the viewer getting up to get a Coke?
No handle on the new iBooks either, or for the TiBooks....or the new iMac. Wonder what this means for the alleged 5 Ghz G10s coming out at Macworld NY this summer?
It does come with the adaptor (mentioned elsewhere, I know), but here's my theory as to why it's necessary...the standard VGA port is ass-ugly and also pretty big and bulky. It would sure look pretty bad on the side of my iBook, and it would take up a lot of space. Both are probably fairly weak reasons to those of you who spray-paint your custom-built Athlon cases, but this is Apple we're talking about:)
Yup. My brother has the Blue Dalmation iMac. It's an ugly piece of shit, but not quite as ugly as you might think to see the pictures. I wouldn't buy one though:)
The flower power one, though...I can't imagine that looks good no matter WHAT you do to the image...
Keyboard yes, "iBook label" no. My iBook 600 still has the good old serif font. (Same for my brother's Blue Dalmation iMac.) This is definitely a new thing.
Too, how relevant will Windows XP (for example) experience be by the time these students get out to the workplace? I don't think that growing up using Windows 3.11 for Workgroups has helped any non-techie all that much when using the newer versions of Windows. Technology changes so quickly that it's absurd to think that ANYTHING platform-specific that anyone learns today will be of much use too far down the road.
Wow...I bow before your superior logic. I have seen the light! I'm not sure how anyone could refute a point as infallible as "morons".
Come on, man (or possibly woman). If you have a valid reason for thinking the way you do (which I'm not necessarily ruling out), you're just making it look bad with crap like this. Post your reasons. That's what the discussion is about.
That's great, except no alarm has gone off here. Microsoft doesn't have a theft alarm that puts the burden of proof on the school, unless it's maybe their "hey, here's an even more sneaky way to make money". If MS's records showed that this school has bought only one copy of windows and an MS employee in the area noticed that every computer has Windows on it, then maybe your analogy would hold. As it stands, MS has no reason to doubt their legal ownership of the software, except for the obvious (hey, easy $500K!)
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Trust me, at least on the iBook 600, the internal modem is NOT supported. It's a Connextant HCF controllerless modem (read: cheap piece of worthless shit even in Mac OS, be it 9 or X), and while beta drivers are out for Intel architechtures, there is no modem support for the latest iBooks. (I have one, so I know.) According to the info page for Ben Herrenschmidt's iBook kernel, however, the iBook 500's internal modem IS supported, so I assume that's what the above quote pertains to.
Because not everyone has time to learn how to examine thousands of lines of code and determine what the program does. As is often pointed out here on/., this is not laziness. This is efficiency in society. To use the tired old car analogy: do you know how to examine an engine and tell if it works as the manufacturer says it should? Chances are you don't. Therefore we must rely on the integrity of experts. There's a level of trust inherent in any transaction, and it would be nice if companies would not violate this.
What's that you say? Not going to happen? Of course it's not. So yes, the average person does have to protect themselves. Say you have Joe Schmoe, who is not an expert on cars. Say Joe has heard about some neato new tire that everyone uses, and he'd like to get in on it. Let's also say that these tires have an inherent design flaw that is not too widely known, and his friend Jim Schlimm, who IS a car expert, starts warning him against the dangers.
"Don't do it, Joe," he says. "The torque on the axles caused by the design of the second layer of rubber can cause separation if the heat index rises about 50 when you go over 60 miles an hour" (technical details conveniently made up).
Now Joe is going to stare at Jim in total incomprehension and go ahead and buy the damn tires anyway, because no average person could reasonably be expected to understand what Jim said.
Yes, technically Joe could have saved himself the trouble if he had known what Jim was talking about. But Jim needs to take some of the fault for not even bothering to frame the information in a way that any average person could understand.
Now suppose that Jim, instead of that idiotic description, says "Hey, Joe, you shouldn't buy those because they explode if you drive too fast" and Joe still ignores him because it's too hard to understand what he's talking about. THAT's idiocy. And there is plenty of that going on. But to assume one or the other is ALWAYS the case is even bigger idiocy.
So if you warn the "lusers" that that nifty new software can mess up their Windows Registry and allow hackers a back door on port 80 that would allow them to run executables and make use of your bandwidth and processor cycles for DDoS attacks on servers the world over, maybe they're not the problem:)
On the other hand, if you say "that software can allow unauthorized access to your computer" and they still refuse to understand, flame away:)
Yeah, but pretty damn slowly, and besides, I enjoy tinkering with Linux. It gives me something to do when otherwise I'd be staring blankly at a computer screen. (As for exploding at someone who dared to question the intelligence of Mac users, well, my karma is low enough already:)
That's because there are no Linux drivers for the modem in my iBook 600 yet. But rest assured, when they come out or I get broadband, I'll be posting from Galeon in my already-working Debian PPC installation.
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For upgrading an OS 9 Mac to OS X, just stick the OS X CD in and install (booting off the CD of course). It'll dump a whole ton of crap all over your hard drive, but it won't touch any data already there (assuming you're using HFS+, which it's hard to imagine any Mac not using these days).
Of course, if you want to do fancy stuff like partitioning your drive for the option-boot trick and OS X swap, you'll need to erase everything. But if you just want to set up and go, it's perfectly safe to just install, to the best of my knowledge.
Nope, I have the late 2001 iBook, so bus speed is no difference. Both machines are 600 Mhz G3s with 256K L2 cache, too (checked Apple System Profiler to make sure). Perhaps this was true of the old (500 Mhz) iBooks, but I know mine is the same specs as my brother's iMac, save for RAM and HD. (I'm pretty sure the graphics cards are the same too...Rage 128.)
It might have been *more* true under 10.0.x, but it still holds true for 10.1, no doubt. I noticed going from 384 to 640 megs of RAM in my iBook, and my brother's iMac started screaming when he went from 256 megs to 1 gig. (The difference between my iBook with 640 and his iMac with a gig is quite noticeable too, though I bet that the hard drive speed also comes into play here.)
Ever read Dante's Inferno? It's not only a piece of literature, it's a political commentary. Boniface VIII is repeatedly revealed as power-hungry, lying, conniving, and every other abuse of power for personal gain one can imagine. He was, for Dante, the epitome of evil popes. It is not much of an exaggeration to say that using Boniface VIII as a reference for today's Catholic doctrine would be akin to using Genghis Kahn's policies as models for modern Mongolia.
That's very admirable. I think one of the hardest things to do is to maintain a consistent philosophy even when those who you once agreed with change their minds. I respect people who will stick to their guns (no pun intended) and actually follow their beliefs rather than blindly following their "leaders". Having read what you wrote, I respect the NRA for that (independently of how I feel about their philosophy).
That's acutally a really cool idea. Would there be any chance of managing to organize something like that? I'd be willing, if I could find the means to do so (it's not too terribly a long haul from here to D.C.). Would it have any effect, besides earning a place on the FBI's shit list, though? I'd hope so...
I've started carrying Orwell's 1984 around in my pocket with me now so that I can show people the parallels between it and what's going on in America today. I may have to buy more copies so I can start lending them out. This is absolutely ludicrous. Did Ashcroft ever consider that there were valid reasons for having those limitation on there in the first place??
The NRA's slogan "Vote Freedom First" seems kind of ludicrous when you consider that it was used in support of this administration. Mod me as flamebait if you must, but increased FBI powers and freedom are not in any way compatible.
On all fronts our freedom is being assaulted. Technological and now social. We don't even have a Congressman to write to and complain in this cse; where are the checks and balances on the FBI? Oh yes, in the hands of the man who just gave them broader powers. And, given their track record for reporting the information they receive to their superiors...
These are scary times.
Call me a cynical conspiracy theorist, but you're assuming that we'd be TOLD that said "software-stars" are simply composites. I can't imagine it would be terribly hard for a studio to release a movie using composite characters without any mention that the stars are not real people. Any rumors that fly could easily be denied, squashed, or dismissed as urban legends by "authorities".
It all comes down to what course of action will make money, and if that means lying about prodcution methods, well then, by damn, that's what they'll do.
Damnit, you're not supposed to think about it! You're supposed to see the words "drug dealing", followed by a list of activities that the government dislikes, and connect it with the word "piracy" at the beginning of the sentence! Then you fight vigorously for corporations' right to stop piracy!
It amazes me what an intricate path information must follow through the mind of sheep. The really scary part is that this has a mild chance of being modded as "funny", considering how true it is.
Technology marches on...sure, public broadband acceptance is not exactly widespread yet, but just wait...how many years was 14.4k the norm? And 2800 bps before that?
Just wait until webpages require the amount of bandwidth that MP3s do today. By that point, bandwidth will be so huge that getting movies will be no greater a (relative) strain on bandwith than MP3s are today. Never going to happen, you say? Try surfing today's Internet with a 2800 bps modem.
The day will come when downloading movies will not create nearly the detectable spike that it does today...
I can't claim to be any kind of a Linux guru, but I've got Sid running on my iBook 600 and everything is working marginally well (save the internal modem, which is still a work in progress as I understand it...damn Apple decided to put a softmodem in here with this revision for some reason). If you run the BenH kernel, you should find yourself in decent shape, hardware support-wise. Sound works, USB works (as far as I can tell; all I've got plugged in is a mouse). The nice thing about putting Linux on this beastie is that you can steal other people's XF86Config-4 and kernel .config files, since they're all the same machine :)
I don't know exactly what would cause this problem, but I can say from experience that Macs do NOT automatically try to boot off of a CD unless they have first determined that there is no other volume (internal or external HD, floppy for those who have them, etc) that can be booted. And by the time it gets to that stage, it's long past the gray screen. Whatever the problem is, it is definitely NOT the Mac trying to "automatically" boot from the CD (and why the author felt it necessary to work in a dig on Apple's dumping the floppy, I'll never understand).
Does anyone find it ironic that, in an interview dealing with what most people would see as overly intrusive advertising, the interviewer specifically asked about the viewer getting up to get a Coke?
No handle on the new iBooks either, or for the TiBooks....or the new iMac. Wonder what this means for the alleged 5 Ghz G10s coming out at Macworld NY this summer?
...or "education". For a computer marketed at...the education market!! Whodathunkit??
It does come with the adaptor (mentioned elsewhere, I know), but here's my theory as to why it's necessary...the standard VGA port is ass-ugly and also pretty big and bulky. It would sure look pretty bad on the side of my iBook, and it would take up a lot of space. Both are probably fairly weak reasons to those of you who spray-paint your custom-built Athlon cases, but this is Apple we're talking about :)
Yup. My brother has the Blue Dalmation iMac. It's an ugly piece of shit, but not quite as ugly as you might think to see the pictures. I wouldn't buy one though :)
The flower power one, though...I can't imagine that looks good no matter WHAT you do to the image...
Keyboard yes, "iBook label" no. My iBook 600 still has the good old serif font. (Same for my brother's Blue Dalmation iMac.) This is definitely a new thing.
Too, how relevant will Windows XP (for example) experience be by the time these students get out to the workplace? I don't think that growing up using Windows 3.11 for Workgroups has helped any non-techie all that much when using the newer versions of Windows. Technology changes so quickly that it's absurd to think that ANYTHING platform-specific that anyone learns today will be of much use too far down the road.
Wow...I bow before your superior logic. I have seen the light! I'm not sure how anyone could refute a point as infallible as "morons".
Come on, man (or possibly woman). If you have a valid reason for thinking the way you do (which I'm not necessarily ruling out), you're just making it look bad with crap like this. Post your reasons. That's what the discussion is about.
That's great, except no alarm has gone off here. Microsoft doesn't have a theft alarm that puts the burden of proof on the school, unless it's maybe their "hey, here's an even more sneaky way to make money". If MS's records showed that this school has bought only one copy of windows and an MS employee in the area noticed that every computer has Windows on it, then maybe your analogy would hold. As it stands, MS has no reason to doubt their legal ownership of the software, except for the obvious (hey, easy $500K!)
Trust me, at least on the iBook 600, the internal modem is NOT supported. It's a Connextant HCF controllerless modem (read: cheap piece of worthless shit even in Mac OS, be it 9 or X), and while beta drivers are out for Intel architechtures, there is no modem support for the latest iBooks. (I have one, so I know.) According to the info page for Ben Herrenschmidt's iBook kernel, however, the iBook 500's internal modem IS supported, so I assume that's what the above quote pertains to.
Because not everyone has time to learn how to examine thousands of lines of code and determine what the program does. As is often pointed out here on /., this is not laziness. This is efficiency in society. To use the tired old car analogy: do you know how to examine an engine and tell if it works as the manufacturer says it should? Chances are you don't. Therefore we must rely on the integrity of experts. There's a level of trust inherent in any transaction, and it would be nice if companies would not violate this.
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What's that you say? Not going to happen? Of course it's not. So yes, the average person does have to protect themselves. Say you have Joe Schmoe, who is not an expert on cars. Say Joe has heard about some neato new tire that everyone uses, and he'd like to get in on it. Let's also say that these tires have an inherent design flaw that is not too widely known, and his friend Jim Schlimm, who IS a car expert, starts warning him against the dangers.
"Don't do it, Joe," he says. "The torque on the axles caused by the design of the second layer of rubber can cause separation if the heat index rises about 50 when you go over 60 miles an hour" (technical details conveniently made up).
Now Joe is going to stare at Jim in total incomprehension and go ahead and buy the damn tires anyway, because no average person could reasonably be expected to understand what Jim said.
Yes, technically Joe could have saved himself the trouble if he had known what Jim was talking about. But Jim needs to take some of the fault for not even bothering to frame the information in a way that any average person could understand.
Now suppose that Jim, instead of that idiotic description, says "Hey, Joe, you shouldn't buy those because they explode if you drive too fast" and Joe still ignores him because it's too hard to understand what he's talking about. THAT's idiocy. And there is plenty of that going on. But to assume one or the other is ALWAYS the case is even bigger idiocy.
So if you warn the "lusers" that that nifty new software can mess up their Windows Registry and allow hackers a back door on port 80 that would allow them to run executables and make use of your bandwidth and processor cycles for DDoS attacks on servers the world over, maybe they're not the problem
On the other hand, if you say "that software can allow unauthorized access to your computer" and they still refuse to understand, flame away
Yeah, but pretty damn slowly, and besides, I enjoy tinkering with Linux. It gives me something to do when otherwise I'd be staring blankly at a computer screen. (As for exploding at someone who dared to question the intelligence of Mac users, well, my karma is low enough already :)
That's because there are no Linux drivers for the modem in my iBook 600 yet. But rest assured, when they come out or I get broadband, I'll be posting from Galeon in my already-working Debian PPC installation.