That's funny. I type in Yahoo dot com and a page comes up. Yet, my window is still broken
It wasn't a crime against you, it was a crime against yahoo. If I break your window, it doesn't affect anyone else. Your window is broken and it will cost you money. The attack against Yahoo cost Yahoo money, primarily in lost revenue. If I broke a window at Yahoo's office, it would never affect you, but it is still illegal and there is no legitimate argument for it.
Personally I'm all for a little bit of inconvenience to increase public knowledge about the Internet
Would you be so generous if you were the victim? Would you happily say goodbye to your car if it could educate people to the threat of car theft? I mean, you're going to buy a car to replace the one that was lost, so it's not like you're actually out a car, you're just out a bunch of money.
Personally I think this very much legitimizes the old (cr/h)acker defense "We're doing it to show you how bad your security is." That seems like exactly what is happening, on a massive scale, it's about time, IMHO.
Does your window provide adequate security against a rock? Would it be okay for me to show you just how little security your clothing provides against a knife blade? Does your car frame have sufficient security against a sledgehammer? Should the victims of Son of Sam be greatful for demonstrating just how vulnerable they are to high velocity projectiles?
Are any of these defenses legitimate? If you were on a jury and the defendant claimed that he killed someone to demonstrate that people can be killed, would you find him innocent?
What have the DoS'ers proved? That crime can be comitted? Great, but I knew that already. I can shut down a mall with nothing more than a fork (repeatedly jam the fork into someone's face until they are dead, the mall will be closed for the day) and I can probably shut down an individual store by doing no more than pulling my pants down and taking a dump in the middle of the store; even if all the customers don't leave, the employees won't be able to help the customers because they'll spend all their time arguing over who cleans it up.
If you fill up a company's pipe with data, legitimate traffic can't get through. We knew this already, we don't need it demonstrated anymore than we need it demonstrated that streets are vulnerable to dynamite.
they should pick an easier mark, like peddling quack patent medicines to old, sick and confused retiree's
They're not trying to scam the OSS community, they're trying to scam uninformed stock buyers, many of whom are old retirees who invest their life savings.
3. Legal reverse-engineering defeats said licensing scheme
I believe their point is that it was not legal reverse-engineering. Xing's dvd player was reverse-engineered, which was against Xing's EULA, which makes any information obtained therein illegal to use. Also, IIRC, Xing's dvd player did not encrypt Xing's key, which violated the contract between Xing and the MPAA.
How long has the site actually been up and in this state?
The server returns "Last-Modified: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:54:51 GMT" for the homepage, not that it means much since it could have been in this state for a while with a sentence or two added on Friday. The domain was registered on September 16, 1999, so I suspsect they haven't had enough time to develop much of anything other than the graphics on the site.
there's also a 10,000 Euro prize for the winner. Of course, some of this money goes to distributed.net to maintain the network, some to charity, and the remaining to the winner. Still, 2,000 Euros is nothing to scoff at.
If someone is doing it for the money, it would be more profitable for someone to do it alone rather than with distributed.net. Granted, it probably isn't a good idea to do it just for the money since, although I haven't done the math, you are probably going to use up more than 10,000 Euros worth of electricity before cracking it.
Sure, VA has tons of money right now. But what happens when the good times stop rolling, and they really need to make money? When the shareholders start asking real questions like, "how do this bring value to my shares"?
This brings publicity to VA. Most companies have a budget for publicity (not to be confused with a budget for advertising), SourceForge is part of VA's publicity budget.
If you're going to flame someone for spelling, at least make sure your post is perfect. You capitalize the word "it's" even though it is the second word in the sentence. Does this mean you're an idiot? A moron who can't comprehend even the simplest of gramatical rules? No, it means you're human and you will make mistakes, others will make mistakes too. Get over it.
So Caldera was able to get DR-DOS at firesale prices, and then sued Microsoft for causing it to be available so cheaply in the first place. Does this seem pretty circular to anyone else out there?
First of all, if Microsoft hadn't crushed DR-DOS and Caldera owned it, then Caldera might have a product which would be making a profit (sure, they were able to buy it cheaper, but that's a rather lame argument since it was cheaper because it didn't have much profit potential). But that's not really the point because Caldera purchased it specifically for the rights to sue Microsoft. Part of the price of the rights DR-DOS was, or at least should have been if Novell had priced it properly, the potential gains from a lawsuit against MS. Someone must have the right to sue MS for what they did to DR-DOS and Caldera purchased those rights from Novell, there's nothing circular about it.
If something is the greatest thing since sliced bread, that means that sliced bread is greater than it. If something is the greatest thing since [insert invention made before sliced bread here], then it is greater than sliced bread.
I have no television for this very reason. I will not pay for those programs by sacrificing my mind to trivialized sound-bytes and deceptive adverts.
Apart from paying for premium cable channels, which show uninterupted programs, you can buy a VCR (or a tivo) and tape the shows you want to watch. Most modern VCR's will skip over commercials so you will never see them.
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Do you expect that any company will be servicing 30 yr old equipment
Much of the world will have replaced their 32 bit machines, but many poor countries may not be able to afford anything other than the 32 bit discarded machines from the rest of the world.
I grew up in Florida, a prime target for hurricanes. Residents of the cities that were in the most danger were told to evacuate. If the previous hurricane had blown off course and hadn't done as much damage as had been expected, more people who were told to evacuate wouldn't evacuate and said something like "the last hurricane missed us, I'm not evacuating again." The news media still told people that they should evacuate and stressed that the previous hurricane blowing off course does not in any way imply that the current one will, but people ignored this. The problem wasn't the media, it was the people watching it. The media loves disasters, they will sensationalize them as long as it gets them ratings. The next major computer disaster will be reported by the media, it will be the average John Doe who will ignore it. Fortunately, the average John Doe wouldn't be able to do anything to prevent the disaster even if he wanted to.
China has sentenced two crackers to death for stealing $31,400 from a bank. China executes a lot of criminals. For those who haven't seen the videos, they hold mass executions where there are around a hundred prisoners on their knees in a field with a guard behind each of them, they are all shot in the head simultaneously.
Ranking among the foremost in the world; of an international standard of excellence; of the highest order: a world-class figure skater.
Usage Problem. Great, as in importance, concern, or notoriety.
Usage Note: The adjective world-class became current as a result of its original use to describe athletes capable of performing at an international level of competition, as in A ten-second time would put him in the first rank of world-class sprinters. In recent years it has been extended to mean "of an international standard of excellence" and has been applied to a wide variety of categories. When used of things that naturally admit such comparison, the extended use of the word is generally acceptable to the Usage Panel. In the most recent survey 65 percent accepted the description world-class restaurant, and 53 percent accepted world-class sports car. But the expression is not generally accepted as a vague way of emphasizing magnitude or degree. The sentence Johann Sebastian Bach's 300th birthday will rank as a world-class anniversary was acceptable to only 7 percent, and only 4 percent accepted a newspaper's description of AIDS as a world-class tragedy.
You're forgetting the placebo effect. If someone truly thinks that god is going to cure them, they have a better chance of being cured (just as someone who is given a sugarpill and told it's medicine has a better chance than someone who isn't). If someone thinks that god is going to help them get a job, they'll probably be more confident and will perform better in the job interview.
You can use FinalScratch. You can use a turntable-like device hooked up to your machine to get the same effects you'd get with a normal turntable (scratching, speed up, slow down, etc.). It's only available for BeOS.
As some have already mentioned, this could be a scam since the site says they are looking for funding. It's also interesting that the registrar of starchildproject.com is also the registrar of davesrcspecialties.com which has been temporarily deactivated because he hasn't been paying his bills. Sounds like someone who needs money to me.
The file system itself isn't GPL'd, the code that the author wrote to use the file system is. Someone could contribute code to *BSD to use the filesystem so long as it isn't a derivitive of GPL'd code.
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You can use bestbookbuys.com to find an even cheaper copy.
That's funny. I type in Yahoo dot com and a page comes up. Yet, my window is still broken
It wasn't a crime against you, it was a crime against yahoo. If I break your window, it doesn't affect anyone else. Your window is broken and it will cost you money. The attack against Yahoo cost Yahoo money, primarily in lost revenue. If I broke a window at Yahoo's office, it would never affect you, but it is still illegal and there is no legitimate argument for it.
Personally I'm all for a little bit of inconvenience to increase public knowledge about the Internet
Would you be so generous if you were the victim? Would you happily say goodbye to your car if it could educate people to the threat of car theft? I mean, you're going to buy a car to replace the one that was lost, so it's not like you're actually out a car, you're just out a bunch of money.
You weren't the victim, Yahoo was.
Personally I think this very much legitimizes the old (cr/h)acker defense "We're doing it to show you how bad your security is." That seems like exactly what is happening, on a massive scale, it's about time, IMHO.
Does your window provide adequate security against a rock? Would it be okay for me to show you just how little security your clothing provides against a knife blade? Does your car frame have sufficient security against a sledgehammer? Should the victims of Son of Sam be greatful for demonstrating just how vulnerable they are to high velocity projectiles?
Are any of these defenses legitimate? If you were on a jury and the defendant claimed that he killed someone to demonstrate that people can be killed, would you find him innocent?
What have the DoS'ers proved? That crime can be comitted? Great, but I knew that already. I can shut down a mall with nothing more than a fork (repeatedly jam the fork into someone's face until they are dead, the mall will be closed for the day) and I can probably shut down an individual store by doing no more than pulling my pants down and taking a dump in the middle of the store; even if all the customers don't leave, the employees won't be able to help the customers because they'll spend all their time arguing over who cleans it up.
If you fill up a company's pipe with data, legitimate traffic can't get through. We knew this already, we don't need it demonstrated anymore than we need it demonstrated that streets are vulnerable to dynamite.
they should pick an easier mark, like peddling quack patent medicines to old, sick and confused retiree's
They're not trying to scam the OSS community, they're trying to scam uninformed stock buyers, many of whom are old retirees who invest their life savings.
The lawsuit info is here
3. Legal reverse-engineering defeats said licensing scheme
I believe their point is that it was not legal reverse-engineering. Xing's dvd player was reverse-engineered, which was against Xing's EULA, which makes any information obtained therein illegal to use. Also, IIRC, Xing's dvd player did not encrypt Xing's key, which violated the contract between Xing and the MPAA.
All domains cost $35.00 a year. You can give them away, but you can never sell one for more then you paid for it.
I think that would pretty much put an end to squatters.
Ticket scalping is illegal in most states, but that has hardly done much to put an end to it. It would be the same with squatting.
How long has the site actually been up and in this state?
The server returns "Last-Modified: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:54:51 GMT" for the homepage, not that it means much since it could have been in this state for a while with a sentence or two added on Friday. The domain was registered on September 16, 1999, so I suspsect they haven't had enough time to develop much of anything other than the graphics on the site.
there's also a 10,000 Euro prize for the winner. Of course, some of this money goes to distributed.net to maintain the network, some to charity, and the remaining to the winner. Still, 2,000 Euros is nothing to scoff at.
If someone is doing it for the money, it would be more profitable for someone to do it alone rather than with distributed.net. Granted, it probably isn't a good idea to do it just for the money since, although I haven't done the math, you are probably going to use up more than 10,000 Euros worth of electricity before cracking it.
on slashdot right now
people are writing haikus
i do not know why
this is not my sig
it is another haiku
i am leaving, bye
Sure, VA has tons of money right now. But what happens when the good times stop rolling, and they really need to make money? When the shareholders start asking real questions like, "how do this bring value to my shares"?
This brings publicity to VA. Most companies have a budget for publicity (not to be confused with a budget for advertising), SourceForge is part of VA's publicity budget.
Guys, It's Ballmer, with two 'l's.
If you're going to flame someone for spelling, at least make sure your post is perfect. You capitalize the word "it's" even though it is the second word in the sentence. Does this mean you're an idiot? A moron who can't comprehend even the simplest of gramatical rules? No, it means you're human and you will make mistakes, others will make mistakes too. Get over it.
So Caldera was able to get DR-DOS at firesale prices, and then sued Microsoft for causing it to be available so cheaply in the first place. Does this seem pretty circular to anyone else out there?
First of all, if Microsoft hadn't crushed DR-DOS and Caldera owned it, then Caldera might have a product which would be making a profit (sure, they were able to buy it cheaper, but that's a rather lame argument since it was cheaper because it didn't have much profit potential). But that's not really the point because Caldera purchased it specifically for the rights to sue Microsoft. Part of the price of the rights DR-DOS was, or at least should have been if Novell had priced it properly, the potential gains from a lawsuit against MS. Someone must have the right to sue MS for what they did to DR-DOS and Caldera purchased those rights from Novell, there's nothing circular about it.
If something is the greatest thing since sliced bread, that means that sliced bread is greater than it. If something is the greatest thing since [insert invention made before sliced bread here], then it is greater than sliced bread.
I have no television for this very reason. I will not pay for those programs by sacrificing my mind to trivialized sound-bytes and deceptive adverts.
Apart from paying for premium cable channels, which show uninterupted programs, you can buy a VCR (or a tivo) and tape the shows you want to watch. Most modern VCR's will skip over commercials so you will never see them.
Do you expect that any company will be servicing 30 yr old equipment
Much of the world will have replaced their 32 bit machines, but many poor countries may not be able to afford anything other than the 32 bit discarded machines from the rest of the world.
I grew up in Florida, a prime target for hurricanes. Residents of the cities that were in the most danger were told to evacuate. If the previous hurricane had blown off course and hadn't done as much damage as had been expected, more people who were told to evacuate wouldn't evacuate and said something like "the last hurricane missed us, I'm not evacuating again." The news media still told people that they should evacuate and stressed that the previous hurricane blowing off course does not in any way imply that the current one will, but people ignored this. The problem wasn't the media, it was the people watching it. The media loves disasters, they will sensationalize them as long as it gets them ratings. The next major computer disaster will be reported by the media, it will be the average John Doe who will ignore it. Fortunately, the average John Doe wouldn't be able to do anything to prevent the disaster even if he wanted to.
this is a haiku
I just made it up right now
this is the last line
China has sentenced two crackers to death for stealing $31,400 from a bank. China executes a lot of criminals. For those who haven't seen the videos, they hold mass executions where there are around a hundred prisoners on their knees in a field with a guard behind each of them, they are all shot in the head simultaneously.
Hemos uses Windows?
If you're refering to One less reason to dual boot, it's in the quote from ttyRazor, which means Hemos didn't say it.
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You're forgetting the placebo effect. If someone truly thinks that god is going to cure them, they have a better chance of being cured (just as someone who is given a sugarpill and told it's medicine has a better chance than someone who isn't). If someone thinks that god is going to help them get a job, they'll probably be more confident and will perform better in the job interview.
Is it possible to scratch an MP3?
You can use FinalScratch. You can use a turntable-like device hooked up to your machine to get the same effects you'd get with a normal turntable (scratching, speed up, slow down, etc.). It's only available for BeOS.
As some have already mentioned, this could be a scam since the site says they are looking for funding. It's also interesting that the registrar of starchildproject.com is also the registrar of davesrcspecialties.com which has been temporarily deactivated because he hasn't been paying his bills. Sounds like someone who needs money to me.
The file system itself isn't GPL'd, the code that the author wrote to use the file system is. Someone could contribute code to *BSD to use the filesystem so long as it isn't a derivitive of GPL'd code.