I was at a tech show a few months ago, and saw an IBM Linux demo by an IBM guy.
He made a big deal about how much money IBM spent on linux development, and how they made it back within a year.
He also said that they were going to port *ALL* of their products to *ALL* of their hardware lines at a point in the futire.
Think of the implications of this. You can buy an eleventy thousand dollar site lisc. for Microsoft Whatever 2004 and a support contract with Microsoft, or you can buy a $40 copy of RedHat linux and a support contract with RedHat.
That is quite a competitive standpoint for linux in general...
4 half lives are at least needed before any amount becomes harmless. 10,000 years is an arbitrary number picked out of someones ass.
As for none escaping before 10,000 years, there are doubts as to how long the containers will last.
They are also burying it in the salt flats, so that it will eventually be encased in this stuff. Now, supposing that in 5000 years, we come up with a way to neutralize it, we cannot easily get it back up.
The solution that has been passed is just a hack, not a solution. A solution would take into account more unknowns, and not have the "We won't be here then, anyway" attitude.
The EPA says that the containers only have to last 10,000 years, but the peak radiation danger is in 400,000 years. That's fucked up! That means that this stuff only has to be contained for less than 1/10 of the time that it's dangerous (It'll be dangerous for perhaps 1,000,000 years. Granted, it needs to go somewhere, but with time frames like that, we should put it in outer space or something.
Just screw whoever's there out of their land and rights, and move 'em somewhere else. Then, 100 years later, we can admit we were wrong, give them back 1/100th of what we stole, keep all the prosperity, and feel good about living there! For those who can't tell, I'm a white man in america!
I have to say it again
Bullshit
How did this get modded up? Stupid.
"Does that make Nature or Physics evil or immoral?"
No, it makes it absolute and consistent. Not judgemental, and not having a choice. "Pol-Pot, Stalin, Hitler, Mao", and Pinochet all had a choice. That is what makes them immoral, they chose to kill all those people for no good reason. Nature kills people for good reason. I think that this is the stupidest fucking argument I've seen here in awhile, which is really saying something.
Yes, this is a flame, and take my carma, I'll still have my pride.
Makes sense to me. Samba lets you use Windows and Linux, making each machine act like it's talking to a peer, instead of something else that's different to learn. That's one of the most useful things I can think of. It works very well on our network.
This is from a users point of view, I know admins are a different story, but, admins are the minority anyway!
Yeah, I work on projects for some big companies, and they expect bugs. It's a given fact when you get software, you get bugs, period. Your reputation depends on how you deal with them, and how severe they are. Do any of you get surprised about a bug in something that you get?
How the hell do you walk and surf the web at the same time? Those laptops must be pretty tough, b/c you'd all the time be running into things...
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This is valid, to a point, here's where it falls apart: You want to build a bridge:
1. Draw Plans
2. Have plans approved by inspector
3. Dig and pour foundation
4. Have foundation approved by inspector
5. Put up pylons, supports, whatever
6. Have them approved by inspector
7. Put the horizontal top on the bridge
8. Have top approved by inspector
9. Pave road
10. Have pavement approved by inspector
11. Bridge gets reviewed every year by inspector to check for flaws, maintainence needs, etc.
Now, not all these apply to software development, but I hope you can see some parallels. Also, There is not much innovation in this type of method. You know your load, materials (and their thresholds), traffic load, weather, and most other variables, and you can use a mathematical formula to solve them. Show me this for software development!
Now, certifing developers is a good idea, as is holding people accountable for their mistakes, but treating software developers like you would civil/mech/areo engineers is a farce, and is only purported to work by people who heard it in school and are just spouting it back out.
Actually, lawrence, I did not. Honestly, I don't really care. Maybe you have better things to do... Or not? This is from Websters Website:
http://www.websters.com
[Latin iocus. See yek- in Indo-European Roots.]
jokingly adv.
Synonyms: joke, jest, witticism, quip, sally, crack, wisecrack, gag
These nouns refer to something that is said or done in order to evoke laughter or amusement. Joke especially denotes an amusing story with a punch line at the end: told jokes at the party. Jest suggests frolicsome humor: amusing jests that defused the tense situation. A witticism is a witty, usually cleverly phrased remark: a speech full of witticisms. A quip is a clever, pointed, often sarcastic remark: responded to the tough questions with quips. Sally denotes a sudden quick witticism: ended the debate with a brilliant sally. Crack and wisecrack refer less formally to flippant or sarcastic retorts: made a crack about my driving ability; punished for making wisecracks in class. Gag is principally applicable to a broadly comic remark or to comic by-play in a theatrical routine: one of the most memorable gags in the history of vaudeville.
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This is not funny.
I was at a tech show a few months ago, and saw an IBM Linux demo by an IBM guy.
He made a big deal about how much money IBM spent on linux development, and how they made it back within a year.
He also said that they were going to port *ALL* of their products to *ALL* of their hardware lines at a point in the futire.
Think of the implications of this. You can buy an eleventy thousand dollar site lisc. for Microsoft Whatever 2004 and a support contract with Microsoft, or you can buy a $40 copy of RedHat linux and a support contract with RedHat.
That is quite a competitive standpoint for linux in general...
Bullshit,
4 half lives are at least needed before any amount becomes harmless. 10,000 years is an arbitrary number picked out of someones ass.
As for none escaping before 10,000 years, there are doubts as to how long the containers will last.
They are also burying it in the salt flats, so that it will eventually be encased in this stuff. Now, supposing that in 5000 years, we come up with a way to neutralize it, we cannot easily get it back up.
The solution that has been passed is just a hack, not a solution. A solution would take into account more unknowns, and not have the "We won't be here then, anyway" attitude.
The EPA says that the containers only have to last 10,000 years, but the peak radiation danger is in 400,000 years. That's fucked up! That means that this stuff only has to be contained for less than 1/10 of the time that it's dangerous (It'll be dangerous for perhaps 1,000,000 years. Granted, it needs to go somewhere, but with time frames like that, we should put it in outer space or something.
"I'm STILL glad I don't "fly the friendly skies"...."
Anyone else see the irony in the statment and the sig?
Just screw whoever's there out of their land and rights, and move 'em somewhere else. Then, 100 years later, we can admit we were wrong, give them back 1/100th of what we stole, keep all the prosperity, and feel good about living there! For those who can't tell, I'm a white man in america!
I have to say it again Bullshit How did this get modded up? Stupid. "Does that make Nature or Physics evil or immoral?" No, it makes it absolute and consistent. Not judgemental, and not having a choice. "Pol-Pot, Stalin, Hitler, Mao", and Pinochet all had a choice. That is what makes them immoral, they chose to kill all those people for no good reason. Nature kills people for good reason. I think that this is the stupidest fucking argument I've seen here in awhile, which is really saying something. Yes, this is a flame, and take my carma, I'll still have my pride.
Makes sense to me. Samba lets you use Windows and Linux, making each machine act like it's talking to a peer, instead of something else that's different to learn. That's one of the most useful things I can think of. It works very well on our network. This is from a users point of view, I know admins are a different story, but, admins are the minority anyway!
huh?
Yeah, I work on projects for some big companies, and they expect bugs. It's a given fact when you get software, you get bugs, period. Your reputation depends on how you deal with them, and how severe they are. Do any of you get surprised about a bug in something that you get?
If you haven't been able to get linux running for the past year, maybe you should transfer to managment or something...
How the hell do you walk and surf the web at the same time? Those laptops must be pretty tough, b/c you'd all the time be running into things...
This is valid, to a point, here's where it falls apart: You want to build a bridge: 1. Draw Plans 2. Have plans approved by inspector 3. Dig and pour foundation 4. Have foundation approved by inspector 5. Put up pylons, supports, whatever 6. Have them approved by inspector 7. Put the horizontal top on the bridge 8. Have top approved by inspector 9. Pave road 10. Have pavement approved by inspector 11. Bridge gets reviewed every year by inspector to check for flaws, maintainence needs, etc. Now, not all these apply to software development, but I hope you can see some parallels. Also, There is not much innovation in this type of method. You know your load, materials (and their thresholds), traffic load, weather, and most other variables, and you can use a mathematical formula to solve them. Show me this for software development! Now, certifing developers is a good idea, as is holding people accountable for their mistakes, but treating software developers like you would civil/mech/areo engineers is a farce, and is only purported to work by people who heard it in school and are just spouting it back out.
Actually, lawrence, I did not. Honestly, I don't really care. Maybe you have better things to do... Or not? This is from Websters Website:
http://www.websters.com
[Latin iocus. See yek- in Indo-European Roots.] jokingly adv. Synonyms: joke, jest, witticism, quip, sally, crack, wisecrack, gag These nouns refer to something that is said or done in order to evoke laughter or amusement. Joke especially denotes an amusing story with a punch line at the end: told jokes at the party. Jest suggests frolicsome humor: amusing jests that defused the tense situation. A witticism is a witty, usually cleverly phrased remark: a speech full of witticisms. A quip is a clever, pointed, often sarcastic remark: responded to the tough questions with quips. Sally denotes a sudden quick witticism: ended the debate with a brilliant sally. Crack and wisecrack refer less formally to flippant or sarcastic retorts: made a crack about my driving ability; punished for making wisecracks in class. Gag is principally applicable to a broadly comic remark or to comic by-play in a theatrical routine: one of the most memorable gags in the history of vaudeville.
Now I can get rid of my pot-bellied stove and start using my PC, lower emissions, more heat, and a space saver!
Dude, all you Barbra Striesand fans should stay in the closet...
They're in grad school, dumbass...
I guess they maybe went a little far for to solve overheating problems...
Legitimate Spam! Now I can start getting into this stuff.
anyone else think its (sic) ironic that a /. author would complain about a typo...