I am retarded: here I go again replying to an AC. You are basically right. Though this thread is interesting once you get past the grammar nazis having fun about the proper use of "could not care less" you have some people saying that it is good for an ego freak like Jani to quit PHP core development. I say it's sad, for any open source team, to lose a core member for some reason that could probably have been avoided by clear heads. But that's why Open Source works to begin with. People feel fanatical enough about something to give their time freely, and if they decide it's just not working out they leave. That's just how it is going to work; but in the meantime you have morons on/. saying good riddance when in fact they were probably the disgruntled users/co-devs that made his job hard. oh well.
"We have persistent objects, they're called files." -- Ken Thompson [bell-labs.com] So is Ken Thompson then confusing a persisting object with a file? The discussion is about having everything be an object. I would guess that the Ken Thompson quote is taken out of context. Having everything be an object, including files, would allow a file to be subclassed as some sort of metadata object for various uses. Having a file be a persistent object, in this respect, would allow the file to be referenced through a different class or interface than may have been originally intended.
amen. middle click or use ctrl+t. a toolbar button is flat stupid. if you're navigating you will have mouse in hand already so middle click it (even if it's a bookmark or toolbar bookmark.) if you need to go to a site or search ctrl+t is fine since you're going to be typing anyways.
i wish i had some mod points.
AMD Launches Counterstrike Against Core 2 Duo
We need corporate wars to thin things out. Fuck'n A! The Governments of the World are just too incompetent! It's obvious that the MBAs of the World need to unite and show these Bozoes how to fuck'n do it!
Yes siree, profit above all else! Fuck these Goddman bald monkeys!
Hey, I'm not done yet! Put those fucking jackets away!!! Hey!!! Mmmmmmmm!mM!M!M!M
Put in straight jacket and sent to a Ph.D business program.
That is funny, not flamebait. Mod Parent up. I would but I have no points! Is there no justice in the world?
no way man, i loved that game. my favorite first person shooter yet. i wish they would try to update it (graphics wise) and provide better multiplayer. Outlaws could be an amazing lan party experience. In fact I think that it could work on a large or small scale for multiplayer. Though some of the original Outlaw maps probably would be very wierd for multiplayer, i'm thinking of the ones that were like a maze, and all tunnel/cave-like.
I hope we all are in a roundabout way. That's why I don't buy media with DRM. It's why my purchasing of CD's has fallen big-time (plus less music now is worth buying). That's why I don't have an Intel motherboard with a Trusted Computing Module. That's why I use Open Source software whenever possible. I just don't know if DRM is worth a Revolution. DMCA on the other hand is definitely worth protesting about. But no one seems to care, quite sad really.
I like how we love to forget history. How can the peasants fight back against their masters without the means to defend themselves? If the people can only grab onto pitch forks as we revolt against a man in a castle with a legion of knights and footsoldiers it'll be pretty damn hard. The way history unfolded before 1800 led our forefathers to make the decisions they made which are still relevant now. Think about it, they're still right.
In the US the economies of the southwest and southeast are much more vital. I take some exception to this. America became what it is because of the natural resources we have (that were stumbled upon and which we commenced to plunder.) So even today our natural resources bless our economy in ways most people never notice. This is not because of the southwest and southeast, it's because of the whole. You grow it, dig it up, or chop it down; everything else is hard to base a sustainable economy on.
The company I work for did a test to see if they could outsource a small project and it also failed miserably. They smartly tried something small but the communication was very lacking. The project floundered for a while, and was in a phase of trying to be finished but they just couldn't get the quality to the point of saying the product was ready. The sad part is that one full timer and a couple student interns could have easily finished the project in two to four months, but the group we out-sourced to couldn't finish up in 9+ months so the axe fell and the contract wasn't fullfilled. We/They decided that oursourcing won't be attempted again. The costs of not being able to hit market with a product are just too high.
I used to use cron to make a nightly tarball of my freebsd system's home directory when i ran that as my only os. With two hard drives the process was trivial and fairly unnoticable. Just setup the other drive as a/backup or so. Have cron.daily do a "tar -czf/backup/nightly.tar.gz/home". The details are sketchy as this was years ago, but it worked nicely and could easily have been done weekly instead of daily.
I did this more to be able to track a change in code incase something happened. This should have been solved by RAID and a SCM system but I was/am young and stupid.
Well, Mr. AC, For the most part you had an intelligent and balanced response. That's nice to see on/. these days. But lets check some stuff. The 5000+ is only using 400mhz ddr2 ram. this will get higher in the future. What is the conroe going to run, 667 or higher i'd assume. from the hexus.net link on/. a little bit ago the conroe beat the athlon quite well at far cry but not so much so at quake4. considering which is out now though it's not really an issue.
btw, did you notice the numbers the amd x2 4600+ put out? that processor is the real one to buy. i would much rather spend $550 on the 4600+ than over $1K on the 5000+ or about as much on an FX62. how much does the conroe cost? the core duo t2600 (2x2.167) is of very similar performance to the 4600+ for $642 on newegg.com.
for power consumption, the core duo t2600 idles at the same wattage as a turion. under load the amd 3800+ was 60 watts away, and the pentium 4 based xe chips hitting 315 watts. these numbers will likely change though once the intel puts out their desktop chips. along with that performance should also increase which is good for intel.
i hope people don't get offended by what i'm saying, i certainly don't want to get put on lithium again. the core duo is definitely worth buying, but not any more so than and amd64. you need to look at the whole solution, not just the cpu. i would definitely have to say that amd has sorta slumbered within the last year or so, and that has allowed intel come back swingin'.
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Wow. I didn't realize what is going on until now. This is just the resurgence of the Intel fanboy. Which is coinciding and colliding furiously with Apple fanboys. Intel has sucked until Pentium M, and now doesn't suck so much with the Intel Core Duo. The price/performance/wattage of machines is becoming equal whether AMD or Intel.
The funny part is that it just hasn't happened yet, but the Intel fans have been waiting for so long that they've just gotta get up and sing anyways. AMD has only a 90nm process, and is still competing with the futuristic Conroe. AMD is still the best option on the desktop. AMD is still the only real option in server land. Want 4 sockets (or even just 2)? Want a reasonable cooling/power bill? AMD is the only option. Intel lucked out by keeping the Pentium 3 architecture around thus managing to keep the laptop/mobile market. Now they're putting those benefits into their desktop/server platforms and by doing being competitive again.
But Intel has not won the battle yet, is the Conroe out yet? Where is the massive proliferation of desktop motherboards for building Core Duo machines? They're not here yet.
Once DDR2 moves beyond 400mhz, AMD will have some serious bandwidth. Later this year AMD will have 65nm, this will bring huge results for their power/watt numbers. So both sides of the story can spout off about what they will have 'eventually.' People need to sit back and re-evaluate things. All we have right now is a healthy, competitive market.
This argument shouldn't exist. Checkout the numbers that AMD X2 4600 put out, very on par or close to that fx60 and the 5000. That chip is out now and you can put it into your computer you buy from new egg on the cheap. Compare that to what Intel has out now and life aint so peachy. And I am not the type to knock on the intel p3 core, it rocks. It was a good move to go back to it and work forward again. In the end, the AM2 chipset (with 400/800 fsb now, but 3 faster ones coming out later) and the soon coming/core duo intel chips will both be good choices, and present a healthy & competitive market.
I would propose a more severe auction house take. If i knew that the more expensive the item the more it would get taxed, I would hopefully have less incentive to sell super high.
All you damn Apple freaks need to shut the hell up about saying that Apple somehow paid for BSD licensing. The BSD work was only partially paid for by taxes/government funds. Open Source developers even back then were contributing of themselves to the free Unix world we now know and love, and they didn't get paid. Apple sort of does help now by hiring various people, but that's common practice and is nothing out of the ordinary. The pure zealousness of you mac people scare me.
And secondly we're talking about OpenBSD all of whose relevant code happened after the funds were cut off and Cal. Berkeley wiped their hands clean.
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filesystem-as-RDMBS
surely you meant to say "RDBMS". what exactly is an RDMBS? i thought this was slashdot, how can someone not get that right.
The main reason you see sci-fi mmo games not doing well is because they pretty much all suck...
Mod parent up. He's pretty much right on.
I am retarded: here I go again replying to an AC. You are basically right. Though this thread is interesting once you get past the grammar nazis having fun about the proper use of "could not care less" you have some people saying that it is good for an ego freak like Jani to quit PHP core development. I say it's sad, for any open source team, to lose a core member for some reason that could probably have been avoided by clear heads. But that's why Open Source works to begin with. People feel fanatical enough about something to give their time freely, and if they decide it's just not working out they leave. That's just how it is going to work; but in the meantime you have morons on /. saying good riddance when in fact they were probably the disgruntled users/co-devs that made his job hard. oh well.
doh. i thought your post was interesting, or at least funny. it's too bad others thought it was flamebait when you brought up a valid point.
"We have persistent objects, they're called files." -- Ken Thompson [bell-labs.com]
So is Ken Thompson then confusing a persisting object with a file? The discussion is about having everything be an object. I would guess that the Ken Thompson quote is taken out of context. Having everything be an object, including files, would allow a file to be subclassed as some sort of metadata object for various uses.
Having a file be a persistent object, in this respect, would allow the file to be referenced through a different class or interface than may have been originally intended.
amen. middle click or use ctrl+t. a toolbar button is flat stupid. if you're navigating you will have mouse in hand already so middle click it (even if it's a bookmark or toolbar bookmark.) if you need to go to a site or search ctrl+t is fine since you're going to be typing anyways.
i wish i had some mod points.
AMD Launches Counterstrike Against Core 2 Duo We need corporate wars to thin things out. Fuck'n A! The Governments of the World are just too incompetent! It's obvious that the MBAs of the World need to unite and show these Bozoes how to fuck'n do it! Yes siree, profit above all else! Fuck these Goddman bald monkeys! Hey, I'm not done yet! Put those fucking jackets away!!! Hey!!! Mmmmmmmm!mM!M!M!M Put in straight jacket and sent to a Ph.D business program.
That is funny, not flamebait. Mod Parent up. I would but I have no points! Is there no justice in the world?
no way man, i loved that game. my favorite first person shooter yet. i wish they would try to update it (graphics wise) and provide better multiplayer. Outlaws could be an amazing lan party experience. In fact I think that it could work on a large or small scale for multiplayer. Though some of the original Outlaw maps probably would be very wierd for multiplayer, i'm thinking of the ones that were like a maze, and all tunnel/cave-like.
I hope we all are in a roundabout way. That's why I don't buy media with DRM. It's why my purchasing of CD's has fallen big-time (plus less music now is worth buying). That's why I don't have an Intel motherboard with a Trusted Computing Module. That's why I use Open Source software whenever possible.
I just don't know if DRM is worth a Revolution. DMCA on the other hand is definitely worth protesting about. But no one seems to care, quite sad really.
It's called guerilla warfare, and it works.
I like how we love to forget history. How can the peasants fight back against their masters without the means to defend themselves? If the people can only grab onto pitch forks as we revolt against a man in a castle with a legion of knights and footsoldiers it'll be pretty damn hard. The way history unfolded before 1800 led our forefathers to make the decisions they made which are still relevant now. Think about it, they're still right.
512MB of RAM should get you by. I have run java on Windows 2000 boxes (and others) with that much and it's ok. But definitely upgrade to 1.5
In the US the economies of the southwest and southeast are much more vital.
I take some exception to this. America became what it is because of the natural resources we have (that were stumbled upon and which we commenced to plunder.) So even today our natural resources bless our economy in ways most people never notice. This is not because of the southwest and southeast, it's because of the whole. You grow it, dig it up, or chop it down; everything else is hard to base a sustainable economy on.
btw, i like your sig too. insightful as a mod sucks. /. really needs to contemplate some more mod options.
The company I work for did a test to see if they could outsource a small project and it also failed miserably. They smartly tried something small but the communication was very lacking. The project floundered for a while, and was in a phase of trying to be finished but they just couldn't get the quality to the point of saying the product was ready. The sad part is that one full timer and a couple student interns could have easily finished the project in two to four months, but the group we out-sourced to couldn't finish up in 9+ months so the axe fell and the contract wasn't fullfilled. We/They decided that oursourcing won't be attempted again. The costs of not being able to hit market with a product are just too high.
I did this more to be able to track a change in code incase something happened. This should have been solved by RAID and a SCM system but I was/am young and stupid.
btw, did you notice the numbers the amd x2 4600+ put out? that processor is the real one to buy. i would much rather spend $550 on the 4600+ than over $1K on the 5000+ or about as much on an FX62. how much does the conroe cost? the core duo t2600 (2x2.167) is of very similar performance to the 4600+ for $642 on newegg.com.
for power consumption, the core duo t2600 idles at the same wattage as a turion. under load the amd 3800+ was 60 watts away, and the pentium 4 based xe chips hitting 315 watts. these numbers will likely change though once the intel puts out their desktop chips. along with that performance should also increase which is good for intel.
i hope people don't get offended by what i'm saying, i certainly don't want to get put on lithium again. the core duo is definitely worth buying, but not any more so than and amd64. you need to look at the whole solution, not just the cpu. i would definitely have to say that amd has sorta slumbered within the last year or so, and that has allowed intel come back swingin'.
The funny part is that it just hasn't happened yet, but the Intel fans have been waiting for so long that they've just gotta get up and sing anyways. AMD has only a 90nm process, and is still competing with the futuristic Conroe. AMD is still the best option on the desktop. AMD is still the only real option in server land. Want 4 sockets (or even just 2)? Want a reasonable cooling/power bill? AMD is the only option. Intel lucked out by keeping the Pentium 3 architecture around thus managing to keep the laptop/mobile market. Now they're putting those benefits into their desktop/server platforms and by doing being competitive again.
But Intel has not won the battle yet, is the Conroe out yet? Where is the massive proliferation of desktop motherboards for building Core Duo machines? They're not here yet.
Once DDR2 moves beyond 400mhz, AMD will have some serious bandwidth. Later this year AMD will have 65nm, this will bring huge results for their power/watt numbers. So both sides of the story can spout off about what they will have 'eventually.' People need to sit back and re-evaluate things. All we have right now is a healthy, competitive market.
65nm has a lot to do with that. amd is 90nm now and 65nm by years end. intel's core duo is 65nm now and that them helped immensely.
This argument shouldn't exist. Checkout the numbers that AMD X2 4600 put out, very on par or close to that fx60 and the 5000. That chip is out now and you can put it into your computer you buy from new egg on the cheap. Compare that to what Intel has out now and life aint so peachy. And I am not the type to knock on the intel p3 core, it rocks. It was a good move to go back to it and work forward again. In the end, the AM2 chipset (with 400/800 fsb now, but 3 faster ones coming out later) and the soon coming/core duo intel chips will both be good choices, and present a healthy & competitive market.
i also noticed the sig. how lame to want/take coors light over guinness.
I would propose a more severe auction house take. If i knew that the more expensive the item the more it would get taxed, I would hopefully have less incentive to sell super high.
don't confuse him with the truth!
And secondly we're talking about OpenBSD all of whose relevant code happened after the funds were cut off and Cal. Berkeley wiped their hands clean.