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And that in Goering units.
(Godwin, you say? Fuck you and your revisionist history)
The word "serenity" predates a certain wonderful science fiction show by quite a few centuries.
Corrected.
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The word "serenity" predates a certain wonderful science show by quite a few centuries.
It fits in very well with the nomenclature used for the other modules.
It also describes the feeling of seeing the earth from orbit.
I've seen entirely too much of this "OMG it's from a teenager science fiction drama" on this site to think that there are many adults (!=age) on this site anymore.
Even if it was named after the valley where a certain SF character lost a war and/or a SF spacecraft, what the hell is wrong with that? The story gestalt in Firefly was about freedom to go and explore and survive.
You have no fucking imagination and as far as I'm concerned no damned right to comment on spacecraft names at all. You just plain don't get it.
Go live in your little world.
Shadowbearer (who is old enough to remember why the prototype space shuttle was named Enterprise)
FWIW, the lawyer* whose offices I'm going to be painting tomorrow agrees with you. He laments that the same sort of precedent doesn't often apply to the DUI and non violent drug cases he works and hopes you don't have too many Pyrrhic victories.
Cheers from *MK(said lawyer) and me and whole crazy bloody crowd of good people here at my 42nd birthday party bash where we are violating a whole helluva lot of stupid laws, reading slashdot, streaming music, arguing, and having an absolutely incredible good time debating all this; and I wish they'd quit showing up because I'm running out of food, booze and media blanks:)
NYCL is a hero of modern times. So Say We All! (so say we all)
If tomorrow it suddenly became physically impossible to listen to music without paying for it, would these friends of yours all sit in silence for the rest of their lives? No. They'd buy some music. Not nearly as much as they're willing to take for free, but some.
They wouldn't have any choice, would they? That's exactly what the people who are trying to control music distribution want. They don't want anyone to produce and distribute any music that they can't play middleman to.
When I see people arguing this stuff, I have to think that either you are very young and haven't read your history, or you are a paid schill.
I'm sitting here tonite with some friends; listening to, and we're singing loudly enough for the neighbors to hear it - good music from the 60s and 70s.
Should we pay these assholes money for our "performance"?
Consensus here is those who think we should can fuck off. Oh, and two out of the six people here are artists who produce their own music and sell it under their own labels. And they say you can take your piracy arguments and shove them up your ass.
However, since when have political decisions to be based on logic?
Part of my point.
The problem with those Nazi comparisons is, that they can be used to justify everything, because Nazi is equal to evil. And evil must be opposed. You can wage war on this, or plan your own mass killing, because the oponent is no longer a human, he became a devil.
While that is true, how does one define evil without human example? And perhaps recent human example?
They used same "logic" to legitimate the crusades. That's why Nazi comparisons are not really good in an discussion.
That's why we SHOULD include it in discussions.
If nobody talks about it, people forget. Or can convince other people that it never happened...
Agreed, but I suspect it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to find out about and memorize something as basic as the 10codes. It's not like they differ that much between cities (I don't know for sure, but I don't imagine they do,as it would foul up communications something fierce).
I would also point out that law enforcement officials aren't always noted for being the brightest clowns in the circus either.;)
Blocking internet links is not going to solve the child pornography problem. Hunting down and imprisoning the people who make child porn, while a lot more difficult thing to do, and certainly a lot more expensive, is by far the better way to go about it and might actually produce real results.
But this isn't about child pornography. It's about censoring a website which is dedicated to ensuring transparency in government - and yes, that is exactly the sort of thing that leads to the sort of atrocities that you mention. If you had been paying attention to the controversy over the Australian censorship list, you might have understood that and not posted something as ignorant as what you did.
It amazes me that we're only a couple generations removed from WWII, and still have fascist and dictatorship governments all over the world, yet the very things that those governments are condemned for doing are permissible if it's western democracies doing them.
The whole "godwin" thing irritates the hell out of me. Why shouldn't we make comparisons to the nazis (or Stalin or any of the other destructive dictatorships out there, recent or not?) How exactly is it bad to make comparisons to the worst of humanity's behavior over the last century? Is that not how we determine just how to recognize and stop such behavior before it gets a foothold?
It's like another saying that still irritates me (and I'm not hardly young anymore) - "Judge ye not, lest ye be judged." - if we can't exercise judgement of others, then just how the hell are we supposed to solve the problems that evil sonsabitches bring to this world? Random guessing? (Wait, that'd be the US justice system, sorry)... the whole FUCKING CONCEPT OF HUMAN SENTIENCE demands that we judge the environment we live in at all times, including our fellow sentients, in order to survive...
I suspect that particular saying was introduced to human culture by people who *didn't* want the average joe judging their actions, because of what they were doing...
/rant and not sorry for it, flame me, mod me down, whattehfuckever
I don't know about anyone else, but I do appreciate having a dialog box that comes up - preferably a small, unobtrusive one - that lets me know that the media I just inserted has been recognized and is now mountable and readable...
Otherwise, I have to go find out for myself.
Of course, it's also nice to have that behavior user modifiable...
Yeah, sure. All these businesses that were being hosted there can just go and set up this themselves, or find someone on extremely short notice to do it for a price they can afford - on their local cable providers network (nevermind that the business owners cable provider probably doesn't allow servers, WHICH IS LIKELY WHY THEY HAD A OUTSIDE PROVIDER IN THE FIRST PLACE)
But you will not find the FBI doing much on these sorts of things; it's generally up to the wronged individuals to file civil suits themselves. On the other hand, the FBI does seem to frequently enter the battle on the side of large companies alleging what amounts to contract violations, sometimes with allegations of fraud involved as well.
Perhaps we should all quit contributing to the spin until the exact reasons for this raid are resolved.
The causes still seems pretty speculative, at this point. What's not speculation is that the FBI disrupted a whole lot of businesses in pursuit of what was apparently something that didn't involve all of them - which is wrong.
Seriously, it's days like this I hate Slashdot.
It's times like this that make me despise media journalists who don't bother to wait until the facts come out to get a story out, because they have to get "the scoop".
Why, yes, I just finished re-reading Varley's "Steel Beach". Why do you ask?
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Sometimes "democracy" shows it's ugliness in the ignorance of it's adherents.
SB
+5 culturally significant comment
Indeed it is.
It points up the incredible stupid silliness that has pervaded our culture and society - via our media - in the last half century.
Any sane culture would reject that particular mode of bullshit.
SB
Maybe we should measure that in Sagan units ;-\
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And that in Goering units.
(Godwin, you say? Fuck you and your revisionist history)
SB
The word "serenity" predates a certain wonderful science fiction show by quite a few centuries.
Corrected.
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Kiss my shiny metal ass.
SB
The word "serenity" predates a certain wonderful science show by quite a few centuries.
It fits in very well with the nomenclature used for the other modules.
It also describes the feeling of seeing the earth from orbit.
I've seen entirely too much of this "OMG it's from a teenager science fiction drama" on this site to think that there are many adults (!=age) on this site anymore.
Even if it was named after the valley where a certain SF character lost a war and/or a SF spacecraft, what the hell is wrong with that? The story gestalt in Firefly was about freedom to go and explore and survive.
You have no fucking imagination and as far as I'm concerned no damned right to comment on spacecraft names at all. You just plain don't get it.
Go live in your little world.
Shadowbearer (who is old enough to remember why the prototype space shuttle was named Enterprise)
FWIW, the lawyer* whose offices I'm going to be painting tomorrow agrees with you. He laments that the same sort of precedent doesn't often apply to the DUI and non violent drug cases he works and hopes you don't have too many Pyrrhic victories.
Cheers from *MK(said lawyer) and me and whole crazy bloody crowd of good people here at my 42nd birthday party bash where we are violating a whole helluva lot of stupid laws, reading slashdot, streaming music, arguing, and having an absolutely incredible good time debating all this; and I wish they'd quit showing up because I'm running out of food, booze and media blanks :)
NYCL is a hero of modern times. So Say We All! (so say we all)
SB
If tomorrow it suddenly became physically impossible to listen to music without paying for it, would these friends of yours all sit in silence for the rest of their lives? No. They'd buy some music. Not nearly as much as they're willing to take for free, but some.
They wouldn't have any choice, would they? That's exactly what the people who are trying to control music distribution want. They don't want anyone to produce and distribute any music that they can't play middleman to.
When I see people arguing this stuff, I have to think that either you are very young and haven't read your history, or you are a paid schill.
I'm sitting here tonite with some friends; listening to, and we're singing loudly enough for the neighbors to hear it - good music from the 60s and 70s.
Should we pay these assholes money for our "performance"?
Consensus here is those who think we should can fuck off. Oh, and two out of the six people here are artists who produce their own music and sell it under their own labels. And they say you can take your piracy arguments and shove them up your ass.
SB
However, since when have political decisions to be based on logic?
Part of my point.
The problem with those Nazi comparisons is, that they can be used to justify everything, because Nazi is equal to evil. And evil must be opposed. You can wage war on this, or plan your own mass killing, because the oponent is no longer a human, he became a devil.
While that is true, how does one define evil without human example? And perhaps recent human example?
They used same "logic" to legitimate the crusades. That's why Nazi comparisons are not really good in an discussion.
That's why we SHOULD include it in discussions.
If nobody talks about it, people forget. Or can convince other people that it never happened...
SB
Agreed, but I suspect it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to find out about and memorize something as basic as the 10codes. It's not like they differ that much between cities (I don't know for sure, but I don't imagine they do,as it would foul up communications something fierce).
I would also point out that law enforcement officials aren't always noted for being the brightest clowns in the circus either. ;)
SB
Blocking internet links is not going to solve the child pornography problem. Hunting down and imprisoning the people who make child porn, while a lot more difficult thing to do, and certainly a lot more expensive, is by far the better way to go about it and might actually produce real results.
But this isn't about child pornography. It's about censoring a website which is dedicated to ensuring transparency in government - and yes, that is exactly the sort of thing that leads to the sort of atrocities that you mention. If you had been paying attention to the controversy over the Australian censorship list, you might have understood that and not posted something as ignorant as what you did.
It amazes me that we're only a couple generations removed from WWII, and still have fascist and dictatorship governments all over the world, yet the very things that those governments are condemned for doing are permissible if it's western democracies doing them.
The whole "godwin" thing irritates the hell out of me. Why shouldn't we make comparisons to the nazis (or Stalin or any of the other destructive dictatorships out there, recent or not?) How exactly is it bad to make comparisons to the worst of humanity's behavior over the last century? Is that not how we determine just how to recognize and stop such behavior before it gets a foothold?
It's like another saying that still irritates me (and I'm not hardly young anymore) - "Judge ye not, lest ye be judged." - if we can't exercise judgement of others, then just how the hell are we supposed to solve the problems that evil sonsabitches bring to this world? Random guessing? (Wait, that'd be the US justice system, sorry)... the whole FUCKING CONCEPT OF HUMAN SENTIENCE demands that we judge the environment we live in at all times, including our fellow sentients, in order to survive...
I suspect that particular saying was introduced to human culture by people who *didn't* want the average joe judging their actions, because of what they were doing...
SB
This is NOT a newsgroup flameware!
No, fascism comes with the operating system. Fortunately, it seems to be a kernel module and not compiled in - so it isn't always loaded.
SB
Assuming that the criminals don't know what the 10 codes mean, that is :)
SB
Why don't you get a start on that. Let us know when you're done, and we'll peer review it ;)
SB
The way things are going, the next successful blog will probably be InYourFace.
SB
Did the advances in radar technology make the idea of multiple sensor observation obsolete?
I suspect both would be valuable.
But...
Interjecting knowledgeable, well thought out commentary into a discussion on slashdot?
You must be new here ;)
Thanks, bro.
SB
Or perhaps that fragile structures are more vulnerable to tornadoes?
SB
Fortunately, they don't always work. For instance, I just did a system upgrade to jaunty jackalope, and everything is still working just fi
*grin*
I don't know about anyone else, but I do appreciate having a dialog box that comes up - preferably a small, unobtrusive one - that lets me know that the media I just inserted has been recognized and is now mountable and readable...
Otherwise, I have to go find out for myself.
Of course, it's also nice to have that behavior user modifiable...
Like... it is, in most modern operating systems?
SB
Yeah, like a "media inserted" hardware switch or something.
SB
Isn't it amazing how some people seem to think that society has become this magical nice place to live in all of a sudden? ;)
Great post.
SB
Yeah, sure. All these businesses that were being hosted there can just go and set up this themselves, or find someone on extremely short notice to do it for a price they can afford - on their local cable providers network (nevermind that the business owners cable provider probably doesn't allow servers, WHICH IS LIKELY WHY THEY HAD A OUTSIDE PROVIDER IN THE FIRST PLACE)
Right.
SB
But you will not find the FBI doing much on these sorts of things; it's generally up to the wronged individuals to file civil suits themselves. On the other hand, the FBI does seem to frequently enter the battle on the side of large companies alleging what amounts to contract violations, sometimes with allegations of fraud involved as well.
Politics.
SB
Yes. But Slashdot users have a propensity for Libertarian anarchism.
You are definitely new here.
SB
Perhaps we should all quit contributing to the spin until the exact reasons for this raid are resolved.
The causes still seems pretty speculative, at this point. What's not speculation is that the FBI disrupted a whole lot of businesses in pursuit of what was apparently something that didn't involve all of them - which is wrong.
Seriously, it's days like this I hate Slashdot.
It's times like this that make me despise media journalists who don't bother to wait until the facts come out to get a story out, because they have to get "the scoop".
Why, yes, I just finished re-reading Varley's "Steel Beach". Why do you ask?
SB