>At the school level, there is hardly any sports events
And I hated this when I went to school in the same "South-East Asia"...
I see no harm with the emphasis on sports. Because of that pathetic attitude to sports in that part of "South-East Asia" look how terribly they perform...
"The characteristics of information--be it software, text or even biotech research--make it an economically obvious thing to share. It is a "non-rival" good: ie, your use of it does not interfere with my use."
How exactly is information a "non-rival" good??? Sharing info can interfere with someone else's life...
Maybe sharing absolutely original info can be non-rival good...but sharing unrestricted info has legal implications right?
You cannot just join another company and share your previous company's trade secrets, can you?
One can argue that it was this free sharing that interfered with the proprietary SW of corporations...
hmm...there are many others too...bollywood itself has many many movies that are truly world class...also the early 'art-film' movement with Naseeruddin Shah, Shabana Azmi et al consisted of many good movies...so pickings are slim but they do exist...
I can second that. If just the error message is good/detailed enough, it cuts the time going thru obscure log files etc... but i doubt many developers think from a user's point of view...
"India may be far less expensive, and the care may be adequate, but there is a reason that so many are still coming to America. The medical care here is still number one."
Yes, quite true...esp. in cutting edge technology and many rarer diseases..but they are catching up!!!
>Well, Schwartz gets paid handsomely by Microsoft to ruin that relationship; including Sun's support of SCO.
U sure u got that URL right...where is the "Schwartz Gets paid handsomely to ruin that relationship" part in that article??? FUD, eh? All that article talks about is the settlement and Schwartz's promotion...??? brazen slander...
what about IBM toeing the M$ line for all these years???
I do not think Sun is "jealous" of IBM per se. Sun sees IBM for what it has been..a monopolist, closed-source company for much of its existence.
This sudden love of theirs while virtually abandoning AIX is perplexing...Sun has not ditched Solaris..that has always been their dilemma...and Sun has been contributing more to open source/standards than IBM...yet they _always_ get bad press..especially here on/. where people should know better...so maybe it kinda hurts...it hurts to see people swooning at IBM's splash but when Sun has quietly been contributing free code etc. there is no mention...they are always the bad guys..Linux's competitors...there is always a motive behind their moves but not behind IBM's..strange strange...
Not really true. There is *pathetic* little female representation at the IITs (and other engg. colleges); ask any IIT-an about it;-). So I would even go as far as saying the the ratio is even more disbalanced there, esp. as a girl going into engineering goes against many stereotypes...
it is better in the privately run computer institutes which offer select computer courses [NIIT et al] (not CS degrees)...they are seen as a quick way to a job...yes, there the ratios may be as high as 50:50.
Tuition _does_ matter. Just because some school in India is harder to get into does not mean it has the best to offer. I would not compare IIM-A with HBS, Dartmouth Stanford etc. Or the IITs with the top ten here. So it is the education in _many_ cases.Especially for those interested in higher ed.
And "high fornication (and fertility) rate" of the "past few generations" is a crude/cheap shot, if you mean the cliches of overpopulation. Most "non-resident aliens" in the US schools are in the engg. departments...many of these guys could have gotten admissions in one of India's gazillion engg. schools...it is just that a(n) sci/engg. education holds out greater promise here...how many Indians go on to do their Masters in India? What is that worth?
YES!YES!YES!! pls let me shout from rooftops. SunRays do so...they are soon going to announce the WAN-Rays and MAN-Rays(no pun intended, Metro Area Network Sun Rays)...so moving from computer to computer will truly be universal!!! Only prob..Sun never gets any credits for its ideas, as usual...:((
What have the IITs achieved, with all those gruelling entrance tests, in India that can match with the MITs/Stanfords? Most IIT guys have ended up in the US anyways...So I do not think saying "So, no wonder the Indians are moving up.." has any basis...
I do NOT understand?? Why is this being discussed here?? To deliberately bash SUN?? Why is a company's financial position being discussed?? Has Slashdot analysed other company's financial reports..the ONLY company I see being pulled into such discussions OVER and OVER again is SUN!!! What is this morbid obsession?? Give them a chance, at least...this is sick and I am VERY disappointed...
I do not understand the fuss.
Who is hiring H1-B's anyways in this economy??
[oh well..who's hiring *anybody* in this economy...?]
I know of many fresh foreign CS grads who cannot get a job becoz NOBODY is ready to sponsor an H1-B anymore. No recruiter is ready consider a guy on an H1-B...the program is as good as dead!!!
Worry abt outsourcing if u will..but I do not think many fresh H1-B's are being approved by INS...
this kind of paranoia has reached irritating proportions recently...what kind of original research is Wipro/Infosys doing anyways? What kind of R&D does India invest in? when it's top engineers come over to the US who is doing any research? So the fact is that virtually NO academic or industrial research of any consequence is being done in India. Japan had R&D...NOT India. Maybe China does. But the threat from countries where basic research just does not exist is minimal.esp a threat of a takeover...the best India can hope for is to become an outsourcers haven...
nothing compares to the R&D in US univs...and I do not think global companies will simply walk away all such research. Also, major US companies still invest heavily in R&D: what about IBM, Sun, Oracle and good ol' M$??? It takes years to develop the capabilities for R&D..it needs a whole process...while the US may have a less than optimum schooling system, it has extremely good higher-level research facilities..India on the other hand has a fairly advanced science and technology curriculum at school level..but no serious higher-level research...so all such fears are baseless..
>technological aspects are a small and often uninteresting part of the decision.
huh?? who would have got the product off the ground if it were not for the technolgical convenience and superiority??
The "complete product" takes years to be bear fruition..in the introduction stage of the product life cycle, many other things matter. there were no mass production of tapes, thousands of movie-rental stores when VHS first came out...
LOL!! that was funny..yeah kinda like that..
i mean some of these guys write maybe 3 really exciting books out of a total career of 300..the rest are all rehashes..
kind of like Deepak Chopra..tons of popular books..all flighty and intense yet lightweight..nothing refreshingly new from book to book..
They're both Fundamental Islamic regimes
Lord what fools we allow on this forum...
both India and Indonesia fundamentalist Islamic regimes..!!!!!!!!
get some basic facts straight man..
Ok I rest my case.
If the lady in India...
INDONESIA, dude, INDONESIA NOT India..
and DON'T say "whatever"..
It is that ignorance of us Americans that leads to
all kinds of misunderstandings.....
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hmmm...the "cultures" are so different at Oracle and Sun...will Oracle let stand Sun's culture that is quite unique, I would say...I doubt it...
>At the school level, there is hardly any sports events
And I hated this when I went to school in the same "South-East Asia"...
I see no harm with the emphasis on sports. Because of that pathetic attitude to sports in that part of "South-East Asia" look how terribly they perform...
"The characteristics of information--be it software, text or even biotech research--make it an economically obvious thing to share. It is a "non-rival" good: ie, your use of it does not interfere with my use." How exactly is information a "non-rival" good??? Sharing info can interfere with someone else's life... Maybe sharing absolutely original info can be non-rival good...but sharing unrestricted info has legal implications right? You cannot just join another company and share your previous company's trade secrets, can you? One can argue that it was this free sharing that interfered with the proprietary SW of corporations...
I see no "blasts" in this "taking to task" by RMS. Why exaggerate his "annoyance" to FUD? Ah...of course...this is /. and fud-slinging is the norm...
hmm...there are many others too...bollywood itself has many many movies that are truly world class...also the early 'art-film' movement with Naseeruddin Shah, Shabana Azmi et al consisted of many good movies...so pickings are slim but they do exist...
I can second that. If just the error message is good/detailed enough, it cuts the time going thru obscure log files etc...
but i doubt many developers think from a user's point of view...
"India may be far less expensive, and the care may be adequate, but there is a reason that so many are still coming to America. The medical care here is still number one."
Yes, quite true...esp. in cutting edge technology and many rarer diseases..but they are catching up!!!
I agree. Bang on. Exploration in learning is not really encouraged..as in the US...
>Well, Schwartz gets paid handsomely by Microsoft to ruin that relationship; including Sun's support of SCO. U sure u got that URL right...where is the "Schwartz Gets paid handsomely to ruin that relationship" part in that article??? FUD, eh? All that article talks about is the settlement and Schwartz's promotion...??? brazen slander... what about IBM toeing the M$ line for all these years???
I do not think Sun is "jealous" of IBM per se. Sun sees IBM for what it has been..a monopolist, closed-source company for much of its existence.
/. where people should know better...so maybe it kinda hurts...it hurts to see people swooning at IBM's splash but when Sun has quietly been contributing free code etc. there is no mention...they are always the bad guys..Linux's competitors...there is always a motive behind their moves but not behind IBM's..strange strange...
This sudden love of theirs while virtually abandoning AIX is perplexing...Sun has not ditched Solaris..that has always been their dilemma...and Sun has been contributing more to open source/standards than IBM...yet they _always_ get bad press..especially here on
Not really true. There is *pathetic* little female representation at the IITs (and other engg. colleges); ask any IIT-an about it ;-). So I would even go as far as saying the the ratio is even more disbalanced there, esp. as a girl going into engineering goes against many stereotypes...
it is better in the privately run computer institutes which offer select computer courses [NIIT et al] (not CS degrees)...they are seen as a quick way to a job...yes, there the ratios may be as high as 50:50.
Tuition _does_ matter. Just because some school in India is harder to get into does not mean it has the best to offer. I would not compare IIM-A with HBS, Dartmouth Stanford etc. Or the IITs with the top ten here. So it is the education in _many_ cases.Especially for those interested in higher ed. And "high fornication (and fertility) rate" of the "past few generations" is a crude/cheap shot, if you mean the cliches of overpopulation. Most "non-resident aliens" in the US schools are in the engg. departments...many of these guys could have gotten admissions in one of India's gazillion engg. schools...it is just that a(n) sci/engg. education holds out greater promise here...how many Indians go on to do their Masters in India? What is that worth?
YES!YES!YES!!
pls let me shout from rooftops. SunRays do so...they are soon going to announce the WAN-Rays and MAN-Rays(no pun intended, Metro Area Network Sun Rays)...so moving from computer to computer will truly be universal!!!
Only prob..Sun never gets any credits for its ideas, as usual...:((
What have the IITs achieved, with all those gruelling entrance tests, in India that can match with the MITs/Stanfords? Most IIT guys have ended up in the US anyways...So I do not think saying "So, no wonder the Indians are moving up.." has any basis...
sad to see so many unhappy teachers out there... And what's up with the Estate Agents???
I do NOT understand?? Why is this being discussed here?? To deliberately bash SUN?? Why is a company's financial position being discussed?? Has Slashdot analysed other company's financial reports..the ONLY company I see being pulled into such discussions OVER and OVER again is SUN!!! What is this morbid obsession?? Give them a chance, at least...this is sick and I am VERY disappointed...
I do not understand the fuss. Who is hiring H1-B's anyways in this economy?? [oh well..who's hiring *anybody* in this economy...?] I know of many fresh foreign CS grads who cannot get a job becoz NOBODY is ready to sponsor an H1-B anymore. No recruiter is ready consider a guy on an H1-B...the program is as good as dead!!! Worry abt outsourcing if u will ..but I do not think many fresh H1-B's are being approved by INS...
this kind of paranoia has reached irritating proportions recently...what kind of original research is Wipro/Infosys doing anyways? What kind of R&D does India invest in? when it's top engineers come over to the US who is doing any research? So the fact is that virtually NO academic or industrial research of any consequence is being done in India. Japan had R&D...NOT India. Maybe China does. But the threat from countries where basic research just does not exist is minimal.esp a threat of a takeover...the best India can hope for is to become an outsourcers haven... nothing compares to the R&D in US univs...and I do not think global companies will simply walk away all such research. Also, major US companies still invest heavily in R&D: what about IBM, Sun, Oracle and good ol' M$??? It takes years to develop the capabilities for R&D ..it needs a whole process...while the US may have a less than optimum schooling system, it has extremely good higher-level research facilities..India on the other hand has a fairly advanced science and technology curriculum at school level..but no serious higher-level research...so all such fears are baseless..
>technological aspects are a small and often uninteresting part of the decision. huh?? who would have got the product off the ground if it were not for the technolgical convenience and superiority?? The "complete product" takes years to be bear fruition..in the introduction stage of the product life cycle, many other things matter. there were no mass production of tapes, thousands of movie-rental stores when VHS first came out...
LOL!! that was funny..yeah kinda like that.. i mean some of these guys write maybe 3 really exciting books out of a total career of 300..the rest are all rehashes.. kind of like Deepak Chopra..tons of popular books..all flighty and intense yet lightweight..nothing refreshingly new from book to book..
They're both Fundamental Islamic regimes Lord what fools we allow on this forum... both India and Indonesia fundamentalist Islamic regimes..!!!!!!!! get some basic facts straight man.. Ok I rest my case.
If the lady in India ...
INDONESIA, dude, INDONESIA NOT India..
and DON'T say "whatever"..
It is that ignorance of us Americans that leads to
all kinds of misunderstandings.....