One particular Australian ISP I was looking at, I forget who. It may have been Dodo or something [snip] sold ridiculously low download caps (in the less than a gigabyte range) coupled with reasonable speeds (so as to very quickly eat the allotted cap up), and charged excess usage at 10c per megabyte.
Hahah, if only it was Dodo. At least then the shady tactics would be expected. No, you're thinking of Telstra BigPond, Australia's largest ISP. They're quite happy selling a 256kbps ADSL 'broadband' service with a 200mb/month limit, which charges not 10 but 15 cents per megabyte that you go over this limit.
Don't believe me? Check out the worst ADSL plans ever. I'm so sad that my grandparents were tricked into signing up for a 2 year contract for this.
Some one will now rip my math into shreds of sobbing uselessness, probably around the newtons to meters/second part.
Actually, I might do it a little earlier.
238500 grams/hoghshead
238500/19.86=12009 grams of plutonium(call it 12 kilos)
First off, it should be 238500 cm^3/hogshead. Which happens to be 238500 grams of water, but that's fairly minor. The real killer is that you should then have multiplied by the density of plutonium, not divided by it. Simple sanity check - do you expect plutonium to float? If not then it shouldn't be lighter than water.
So it ends up with 238,500*19.86 = 4,736,610 grams of plutonium.
Thus you have ~95,000,000 tons of TNT per hogshead of plutonium.
Which comes around ~391,000,000Gj.
Which makes for a bit under 2,000,000,000,000kN when used to over 40 rods.
I'd work out the speed the sub would get up to, but I'm running late for work...
In your rush to be offended, you seem have missed a couple of things. First off the OP's original framing of the question in terms of 13 year olds justifies judging things using terms such as 'pansy'. Even assuming that the post had a homophobic element (which I'd dispute), acknowledging that homophobia exists doesn't make you homophobic.
The next thing you're forgetting is the actual history of the term. From wiki: "The word "pansy" has indicated an effeminate male since Elizabethan times and its usage as a disparaging term for a man or boy who is effeminate (as well as for an avowedly homosexual man) is still used." All of this can be discussed in terms of masculinity rather than sexual preference.
So yeah, maybe save your outrage for things that actually matter.
The Russian authorities have an attitude problem, and don't give a tinker's damn about the crime being committed from their soil, as long as it isn't Russian citizens being targeted. Which goes part-way to explain why cybercriminals NEVER target people in their own countries.
I know it's bad to reply to your own posts, but someone posted a link to a thread on Whirlpool that Michael Malone has replied to. I just had to include the link because it shows you what kind of company you're dealing with. The managing director replies to a thread on a consumer advocacy forum and uses language like:
... It is not sensible to stay out of the trials. If we do that, then the government will sign up a couple of pissant ISP's from some small regional location. They will run the trials there and then say voila, it worked, perfect results, no slowdown. Then it will be legislated and enforced. That's stupid.
...
There is no point sticking our heads in the sand on this. I want real data that demonstrates why this is dumb, even to someone as slow as this minister.
Now, perhaps this is part of grand scheme to get this filter in place, but if so, it's so masterfully orchestrated that I think we may as well give up, they're too good to fight.:P
Credit to ghmh's comment for the link the Whirlpool thread.
The thing is there's no motivation for them to screw us over. iiNet are out to make money, and filtering is just going to be a massive problem/money hole for them. Sucking up the government won't get them anything because of the telco situation here.
So iiNet are taking the long term view that being seen as 'the guys who stopped the filtering' will be seen as a positive for their brand and mean when people ask their local geek who they should get their interwebs from said geek will be more likely to suggest iiNet.
TPG was bought out by iiNet a few years ago but has retained the brand name and the control to operate independently of iiNet.
Sorry to doubt, but do you have a source for this? I've been OS for a couple of years, but keep in touch with geeky goings-on in Australia, and though I would have heard about this. Furthermore a quick google for 'TGP iiNet ISP' doesn't show any stories about them being bought out...
As I say, not trying to sound rude, just would like confirmation of this.
Posting will undo some moderation, but I have to do it here...
I know that in general we look on ISPs as evil pricks, but in this case, iiNet is actually stepping up to stick it to Aussie government. iiNet isn't the perfect ISP, but they've consistently taken steps to push the Aussie ISP market in the right direction. For example, they were the first (I think) to introduce ADSL 2+ and their ADSL 2+ connection has been the fastest I've ever had, beating out connections in the US, Singapore and Australia. They also pioneered naked ADSL (which is great). When I had ADSL issues with the local telco's lines they helped diagnose and get the problem resolved.
Then there's the quotes that have been coming out of iiNet's staff about this filtering, which are leave no doubt about their thoughts about the whole thing.
They're going into this kicking and screaming and only volunteering because they know they'll kick and scream the loudest.
Full disclosure: I'm currently posting from an iiNet connection, and have been a happy customer in the past. (Though I also rate TGP's connections.)
One could theorise that since there's been cases of IM clients reporting chats/keywords to government agencies (Skype comes to mind), that they wish to examine the source and ensure that such a thing won't happen.
Of course, the fact that the alternative being suggested is MSN/Windows Live mean that such a theory would be entirely wrong.:P
The President of the United States of America is the single person recognized as the "leader" of the world.
I'm going to take a wild guess here and suggest that you're in the USA. Because people outside the USA certainly do not view George W Bush at the leader of the world.
The rest of your post is pure crazytown, and I can't be bothered addressing it point by point. Suffice to say, you seem to be imagining that when nations behave badly, the rest of the world should decide to pretend they don't exist.
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One particular Australian ISP I was looking at, I forget who. It may have been Dodo or something [snip] sold ridiculously low download caps (in the less than a gigabyte range) coupled with reasonable speeds (so as to very quickly eat the allotted cap up), and charged excess usage at 10c per megabyte.
Hahah, if only it was Dodo. At least then the shady tactics would be expected. No, you're thinking of Telstra BigPond, Australia's largest ISP. They're quite happy selling a 256kbps ADSL 'broadband' service with a 200mb/month limit, which charges not 10 but 15 cents per megabyte that you go over this limit.
Don't believe me? Check out the worst ADSL plans ever. I'm so sad that my grandparents were tricked into signing up for a 2 year contract for this.
So if I'm reading your post correctly, you're arguing for mounting cricket bats on ICBMs, correct?
Some one will now rip my math into shreds of sobbing uselessness, probably around the newtons to meters/second part.
Actually, I might do it a little earlier.
238500 grams/hoghshead
238500/19.86=12009 grams of plutonium(call it 12 kilos)
First off, it should be 238500 cm^3/hogshead. Which happens to be 238500 grams of water, but that's fairly minor. The real killer is that you should then have multiplied by the density of plutonium, not divided by it. Simple sanity check - do you expect plutonium to float? If not then it shouldn't be lighter than water.
So it ends up with 238,500*19.86 = 4,736,610 grams of plutonium.
Thus you have ~95,000,000 tons of TNT per hogshead of plutonium.
Which comes around ~391,000,000Gj.
Which makes for a bit under 2,000,000,000,000kN when used to over 40 rods.
I'd work out the speed the sub would get up to, but I'm running late for work...
Can you start posting ones which aren't all conjecture?
I don't know, can I ?
Perhaps. But maybe not.
In your rush to be offended, you seem have missed a couple of things. First off the OP's original framing of the question in terms of 13 year olds justifies judging things using terms such as 'pansy'. Even assuming that the post had a homophobic element (which I'd dispute), acknowledging that homophobia exists doesn't make you homophobic.
The next thing you're forgetting is the actual history of the term. From wiki: "The word "pansy" has indicated an effeminate male since Elizabethan times and its usage as a disparaging term for a man or boy who is effeminate (as well as for an avowedly homosexual man) is still used." All of this can be discussed in terms of masculinity rather than sexual preference.
So yeah, maybe save your outrage for things that actually matter.
I mean, combined with the lousy earbuds most people use, who'd notice?
No-one. But it would be fun to watch audiophiles with more money than sense claim that they could tell the difference.
Want to get away from the oppressive heat? Move to Victoria.
Hmmm... You haven't been here lately have you?
We've just had the worst heatwave on record down here. Three consecutive days of 43C (110F) temperatures were just the beginning of our problems.
You think India is "third world"?
Let me guess, you're an American, right?
Or just someone who understands what the term generally means?
Every other country in the world can get symmetric broadband by now.
What planet are you living on? Outside of Europe and Japan, everyone's at least as screwed as the US when it comes to broadband.
What's next? Suing over the article about the linking? This is completely absurd.
That, my friend, is defamation. We'll see you in court.
I then take that keyboard, and remap the capslock key to be a second control key. After all, when was the last time you needed to use capslock? Never.
You must lose a lot of your internet debates.
The Russian authorities have an attitude problem, and don't give a tinker's damn about the crime being committed from their soil, as long as it isn't Russian citizens being targeted. Which goes part-way to explain why cybercriminals NEVER target people in their own countries.
You misspelled 'American' in your post. Twice.
I know it's bad to reply to your own posts, but someone posted a link to a thread on Whirlpool that Michael Malone has replied to. I just had to include the link because it shows you what kind of company you're dealing with. The managing director replies to a thread on a consumer advocacy forum and uses language like:
... It is not sensible to stay out of the trials. If we do that, then the government will sign up a couple of pissant ISP's from some small regional location. They will run the trials there and then say voila, it worked, perfect results, no slowdown. Then it will be legislated and enforced. That's stupid.
There is no point sticking our heads in the sand on this. I want real data that demonstrates why this is dumb, even to someone as slow as this minister.
Now, perhaps this is part of grand scheme to get this filter in place, but if so, it's so masterfully orchestrated that I think we may as well give up, they're too good to fight. :P
Credit to ghmh's comment for the link the Whirlpool thread.
The thing is there's no motivation for them to screw us over. iiNet are out to make money, and filtering is just going to be a massive problem/money hole for them. Sucking up the government won't get them anything because of the telco situation here.
So iiNet are taking the long term view that being seen as 'the guys who stopped the filtering' will be seen as a positive for their brand and mean when people ask their local geek who they should get their interwebs from said geek will be more likely to suggest iiNet.
TPG was bought out by iiNet a few years ago but has retained the brand name and the control to operate independently of iiNet.
Sorry to doubt, but do you have a source for this? I've been OS for a couple of years, but keep in touch with geeky goings-on in Australia, and though I would have heard about this. Furthermore a quick google for 'TGP iiNet ISP' doesn't show any stories about them being bought out...
As I say, not trying to sound rude, just would like confirmation of this.
Posting will undo some moderation, but I have to do it here...
I know that in general we look on ISPs as evil pricks, but in this case, iiNet is actually stepping up to stick it to Aussie government. iiNet isn't the perfect ISP, but they've consistently taken steps to push the Aussie ISP market in the right direction. For example, they were the first (I think) to introduce ADSL 2+ and their ADSL 2+ connection has been the fastest I've ever had, beating out connections in the US, Singapore and Australia. They also pioneered naked ADSL (which is great). When I had ADSL issues with the local telco's lines they helped diagnose and get the problem resolved.
Then there's the quotes that have been coming out of iiNet's staff about this filtering, which are leave no doubt about their thoughts about the whole thing.
They're going into this kicking and screaming and only volunteering because they know they'll kick and scream the loudest.
Full disclosure: I'm currently posting from an iiNet connection, and have been a happy customer in the past. (Though I also rate TGP's connections.)
I think Washington D.C. will become a radioactive wasteland and the survivors will spend their waking hours hunting mutant ants in collapsed subways.
So business as usual then...
Sprint Cuts Cogent Off the Internet 404 comments
Does that mean that /. is using Cogent now?
I suggest we all go selectively breed and send our offspring to face trials of horrors. It's for the good of humanity.
Dad? Is that you?
He's a member of a bigoted, ethnocentric, racist CHRISTIAN church.
You're going to have to be more specific.
So, you're telling me that it isn't a euphemism for oral sex. Are you sure? Isn't it possible that it might be, in secret?
It certainly is now.
I think we can all agree, 256 cores is enough for anybody.
I just put the finishing touches on my 257 core machine, you insensitive clod!
One could theorise that since there's been cases of IM clients reporting chats/keywords to government agencies (Skype comes to mind), that they wish to examine the source and ensure that such a thing won't happen.
Of course, the fact that the alternative being suggested is MSN/Windows Live mean that such a theory would be entirely wrong. :P
The President of the United States of America is the single person recognized as the "leader" of the world.
I'm going to take a wild guess here and suggest that you're in the USA. Because people outside the USA certainly do not view George W Bush at the leader of the world.
The rest of your post is pure crazytown, and I can't be bothered addressing it point by point. Suffice to say, you seem to be imagining that when nations behave badly, the rest of the world should decide to pretend they don't exist.
Just because it doesn't pertain to America, doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
You must be new here.
And by 'here', I mean America.