Moz 1.4 problems on install. Moz crashing.
on
Mozilla 1.4 RC3 Is Out
·
· Score: 4, Interesting
I have not been able to get Mozilla 1.4 to install on one machine (with a
lot of email). I installed Moz 1.4RC3 over 1.3.1, and I get a Windows program
crash message, offering to send Microsoft data about the crash.
The release notes said to install 1.4 in a new directory, but I spent hours
teaching Moz to store email in a folder other than the default. I don't want
to go through that again. Moz gives the option to install in a folder other
than the default, but does not make it easy.
I re-installed 1.3.1 over the bad 1.4, and it works, no problem. The version I
had downloaded does not say 1.4 RC3, just 1.4.
On another machine, I had no problem installing 1.4. Both are running Windows
XP, SP1.
I am anxious to begin using 1.4 because I've had many problems with 1.3.1
crashing after many instances and many tabs are opened, and some are closed.
The crashing seems associated with Windows XP's limit of 21 programs open at
the same time. (After that, the program list is displayed in a disordered
fashion. That "feature" seems to have been put in by Microsoft to discourage
people from opening a lot of programs.) Mozilla's crashing seems to corrupt
Windows XP, too, so that a reboot is required to restore full functionality.
When either Moz or Firebird crashes, all instances and all tabs crash. It
would be great if instances were completely separate from each other. I can
buy more memory, if needed, much easier than I can repeatedly lose work.
I've seen the same crashing of Moz 1.3 under Linux with many instances and
tabs open, when some tabs are closed. I reported the problem, and there was
speculation that there was stack corruption. I hope this is fixed in 1.4.
Moz/Firebird are not perfect, but they are by far the best, in my opinion.
I hope someone sets up one of these machines and posts the software for everyone to use. Yes, I could do it myself, but it would take much less time starting with a tested foundation.
UPS units are often cheaply and poorly designed, especially the older ones. The ONLY issue is whether the unit would overheat with the longer time of use that is possible with a more powerful battery.
Earlier posters mentioned that a bigger battery would draw more current at a particular charging voltage. This is true, but irrelevant. The chargers are designed to be constant-current, or close to it. The current drain does not depend on voltage.
I've powered a telephone answering computer from an 18 volt UPS using a 6 volt and 12 volt car battery in series, with no problems. However, the unit was arranged that there would be much more air flow for cooling than it would normally get.
The Supreme Court elected George Bush. As Alan Dershowitz said, it was an unprecedented abandonment of judicial principle.
New president George Bush put a man in charge of foreign policy who had lived his entire life with
the idea that the way to solve problems is to kill people and destroy their
property. This sent another very clear message to Arabs that the U.S. government support for killing Arabs would increase.
Arabs and Muslims are prevented from having a voice in their government partly by
the U.S. government presence in Saudi Arabia.
Arabs and Muslims are prevented from living in peace by the violent Jewish
occupation of the land that was theirs (now known as Israel).
The U.S. government pays between 3.5 and 5.5 billion dollars every year to Jews in
Israel. This money is used to buy helicopter gunships and other high-profit American-made weapons. The weapons are used to kill Arabs.
Arab and Muslim cultures are not particularly good at communicating. They tend
to feel that getting attention through violence is their only option. (It
would be better if they could start their own influential newspaper in the U.S., as the
Jewish people have in the New York Times.) The Jewish cultures are far better than the Arab cultures in teaching their children to be intellectual. To be influential by communicating, it is first necessary to learn to be intellectual.
Since the U.S. government is actively involved in killing Arabs, and the
Israeli government is actively involved in killing Arabs, the Arabs decided to
fight violence with violence and kill a few Americans. Numerous Arabs were
willing to sacrifice their lives for this.
Using techniques the CIA taught them in Afghanistan, the Arabs planned and
executed the destruction in the U.S. on September 11, 2001.
The uncertainty that violence brings causes leaders not to want to invest. The Bush administration
has already incurred a huge U.S. government debt. The cost of pretending that
the terrorists are sacrificing their lives for no reason is huge.
The uncertain political and financial climate (constant, never-ending war) and bankrupt
government causes job loss and loss of opportunity.
First, your hostile behavior is completely unacceptable, even if you are technically correct in what you are saying.
Second, you are replying to a very long article which mentions many, many issues. Even if you were correct that the article is in error, it would be a mistake only in a small percentage of the article.
The meaning of "Microsoft does not offer such a utility" is that there is no way to copy a fully installed version of Windows XP using Windows XP alone. The "third-party utilities" such as Norton Ghost and PowerQuest DriveImage and PowerDeploy boot to DOS and do sector-by-sector copies.
Volume Shadow Copy cannot make a working copy of a fully-installed disk containing Windows XP. Your post seems to indicate that you have not tried this yourself, but only seen others do it. I've tried it, and it doesn't work. I've asked Microsoft, and they agree. Who is correct, Microsoft and I, or you?
You are mistaken. Try it sometime. Copy all files from a bootable partition to another bootable partition. You will find that some files did not copy. That's why Norton Ghost and PowerQuest DriveImage boot to DOS.
A government that uses proprietary software is not an independent government.
You cannot know now to what contract provisions you will be held in the future.
Microsoft Keeps Control: Microsoft has abandoned its earlier successful business model.
Microsoft restricts your software options.
Backup Problems: Windows XP cannot copy some of its own files.
There is no mental slowing caused by age.
on
Ageism in IT?
·
· Score: 1
I've studied this for more than 30 years. I've found that there is no mental slowing caused by age. There is mental slowing in many people, but it is not caused by age.
TIA has nothing to do with protecting U.S. citizens from terrorism. It is instead part of a hidden political agenda.
Every year, the U.S. government gives between $3.5 billion and $5.5 billion to Jews in Israel. This money is used to kill Arabs. (The Jews call it defense.) The terrorism toward the U.S. was caused by Arabs who feel they have no other way to protest the brutality of moving them from their homeland, and continuing to kill them, to make a new country called Israel. They are sacrificing their lives to try to make a statement. I don't think violence is justified, but the U.S. government thinks violence is justified, the Jews think violence is justified, and it would be illogical to think that violence is okay for politically powerful groups in the U.S., but not for the people they want to kill.
The people who have brought you TIA have also put the U.S. government back into the
huge debt it was in during the Reagan-Bush years. The people who want corruption cause the U.S. government to borrow money so that they can spend it (tax cut) to make themselves look good and on high-profit weapons.
Here are a few links that
discuss other kinds of corruption:
Questionable accounting practices -- The U.S. government becomes another
Enron scam:
Questionable accounting practices in the U.S. government: "The U.S.
government is broke." George Bush gave U.S. citizens a tax cut, but it was
fraud. The
tax cut will be paid by money the U.S. government will borrow.
I just started Open Office 1.0.3.1 and it started with the same speed as Microsoft Word, maybe a little faster. Mozilla is great (but Mozilla Firebird is better).
Maybe I get better performance because I use very well-supported hardware. Also, when MS Office is installed, it loads a component that starts every time you start your computer. Be sure that is disabled when you run tests.
I've been reading the posts to this story, and I can see that many people
don't understand the underlying issues.
Here is a fact that is symbolic of why organizations switch to Linux:
Microsoft Windows XP cannot copy all of its own files! Microsoft decided to
treat all of its customers as though they were criminals just because some
were making illegal copies. So, Microsoft crippled the Windows XP file system
to prevent people from cloning their copies of Windows. This vastly increases
the problems in using Windows XP, for everyone, because full hard disk backups
become more difficult.
Organizations have had enough of Microsoft's hostile behavior toward
them. That's the underlying reason they are switching to Linux.
Also, governments cannot ensure independence if they use proprietary,
closed-source software. Could the United States government's NSA or CIA or FBI
demand that a hidden back door be put in Microsoft software so that it could
investigate what another government is doing? Certainly. Obviously, an agency
that is authorized to kill people and destroy their property will not feel
morally limited when considering corruption of software.
Can someone help us here? I certainly believe my own experience. The parent poster seems to have experience, also. Why do we have different experiences?
For office work, Linux seems fine to me on slow machines.
Hushmail looks okay, better than Hotmail or Yahoo mail. But Hushmail's terms
of service discourage me:
ACCOUNT TERMINATION
Hush may terminate your access to the Service and any related service(s) at
any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective
immediately, for any reason whatsoever. Hush has no obligation to store or
forward the contents of your account.
I can understand why they do this. It is some lawyer trying to protect them
from all liability using easily-written, strong language. However, it's not
what I need; for email I need a true business partner, not someone who may
disappear overnight because of a business mistake, and is planning ahead for
such a possibility.
Don't worry about Linux on old systems, however. I run Linux on a 233 MHz computer that I rescued from a customer's upgrade a long time ago. It works fine. My experience is that Linux is much faster on old hardware than Windows.
When I hear these stories, I'm always surprised how many city workers there are who have computers. My conception of city administration is that there must be many who don't work at desks.
Slashdot Mirror
I have not been able to get Mozilla 1.4 to install on one machine (with a lot of email). I installed Moz 1.4RC3 over 1.3.1, and I get a Windows program crash message, offering to send Microsoft data about the crash.
The release notes said to install 1.4 in a new directory, but I spent hours teaching Moz to store email in a folder other than the default. I don't want to go through that again. Moz gives the option to install in a folder other than the default, but does not make it easy.
I re-installed 1.3.1 over the bad 1.4, and it works, no problem. The version I had downloaded does not say 1.4 RC3, just 1.4.
On another machine, I had no problem installing 1.4. Both are running Windows XP, SP1.
I am anxious to begin using 1.4 because I've had many problems with 1.3.1 crashing after many instances and many tabs are opened, and some are closed. The crashing seems associated with Windows XP's limit of 21 programs open at the same time. (After that, the program list is displayed in a disordered fashion. That "feature" seems to have been put in by Microsoft to discourage people from opening a lot of programs.) Mozilla's crashing seems to corrupt Windows XP, too, so that a reboot is required to restore full functionality.
When either Moz or Firebird crashes, all instances and all tabs crash. It would be great if instances were completely separate from each other. I can buy more memory, if needed, much easier than I can repeatedly lose work.
I've seen the same crashing of Moz 1.3 under Linux with many instances and tabs open, when some tabs are closed. I reported the problem, and there was speculation that there was stack corruption. I hope this is fixed in 1.4.
Moz/Firebird are not perfect, but they are by far the best, in my opinion.
I hope someone sets up one of these machines and posts the software for everyone to use. Yes, I could do it myself, but it would take much less time starting with a tested foundation.
IO Gear KVM's work fine.
UPS units are often cheaply and poorly designed, especially the older ones. The ONLY issue is whether the unit would overheat with the longer time of use that is possible with a more powerful battery.
Earlier posters mentioned that a bigger battery would draw more current at a particular charging voltage. This is true, but irrelevant. The chargers are designed to be constant-current, or close to it. The current drain does not depend on voltage.
I've powered a telephone answering computer from an 18 volt UPS using a 6 volt and 12 volt car battery in series, with no problems. However, the unit was arranged that there would be much more air flow for cooling than it would normally get.
Yes, but I understand page formatting very well.
The Sorveteria [ice cream maker] Slashdot story is an example of Brazilians being Brazilian. If it looks like fun, Brazilians will try it.
Here is a translation:
Don't try this at home, okay?
How to make ice cream in 5 minutes.
"Marco, I want ice cream."
Lucas going to buy ingredients.
The ingredient X. Ho ho ho, nitrogen. [In Portuguese, it rhymes.]
"Fill it up, uncle!" [They don't know the name of the man selling liquid nitrogen, so they call him uncle.]
Security Equipment. [The Brazilians obviously work in a laboratory, because they have all the necessary gear.]
Making the mixture...
Ready, now we only lack the freezing, ho ho ho.
"heh heh heh"
More nitrogen... [In this frame we see that they are at home, and several people are watching and waiting.]
"Mix it, Dili."
Smoke comes out. It is frozen.
Ready. 1 minute after, it is ready.
We will try...
"Hmmmmmmm"
"Ready, it is good, we are able to eat!"
Repeated: Don't try this at home. [Unless you work in a laboratory, and have a lot of experience with liquid nitrogen.]
Only 8 million people live in Sweden. Many of them are experts at making themselves miserable.
CSS is seriously broken, and no one in a leadership capacity seems to know enough to fix it.
How we arrived at the present situation:
The Supreme Court elected George Bush. As Alan Dershowitz said, it was an unprecedented abandonment of judicial principle.
New president George Bush put a man in charge of foreign policy who had lived his entire life with the idea that the way to solve problems is to kill people and destroy their property. This sent another very clear message to Arabs that the U.S. government support for killing Arabs would increase.
Arabs and Muslims are prevented from having a voice in their government partly by the U.S. government presence in Saudi Arabia.
Arabs and Muslims are prevented from living in peace by the violent Jewish occupation of the land that was theirs (now known as Israel).
The U.S. government pays between 3.5 and 5.5 billion dollars every year to Jews in Israel. This money is used to buy helicopter gunships and other high-profit American-made weapons. The weapons are used to kill Arabs.
Arab and Muslim cultures are not particularly good at communicating. They tend to feel that getting attention through violence is their only option. (It would be better if they could start their own influential newspaper in the U.S., as the Jewish people have in the New York Times.) The Jewish cultures are far better than the Arab cultures in teaching their children to be intellectual. To be influential by communicating, it is first necessary to learn to be intellectual.
Since the U.S. government is actively involved in killing Arabs, and the Israeli government is actively involved in killing Arabs, the Arabs decided to fight violence with violence and kill a few Americans. Numerous Arabs were willing to sacrifice their lives for this.
Using techniques the CIA taught them in Afghanistan, the Arabs planned and executed the destruction in the U.S. on September 11, 2001.
The uncertainty that violence brings causes leaders not to want to invest. The Bush administration has already incurred a huge U.S. government debt. The cost of pretending that the terrorists are sacrificing their lives for no reason is huge.
The uncertain political and financial climate (constant, never-ending war) and bankrupt government causes job loss and loss of opportunity.
First, your hostile behavior is completely unacceptable, even if you are technically correct in what you are saying.
Second, you are replying to a very long article which mentions many, many issues. Even if you were correct that the article is in error, it would be a mistake only in a small percentage of the article.
Third, it is you who is mistaken. My article, Windows XP Shows the Direction Microsoft is Going. clearly references a Microsoft article: Q314828 Microsoft Policy on Disk Duplication of Windows XP Installation. That Microsoft article references another article: Using Disk-Image Copying in Microsoft Windows Deployment. In the second article, Microsoft says: "Finally, you may use a process known as disk-image duplication to deploy additional corporate desktop systems. (This disk imaging/duplication process can be accomplished using third-party software or hardware created for this purpose. Microsoft does not offer such a utility.)"
The meaning of "Microsoft does not offer such a utility" is that there is no way to copy a fully installed version of Windows XP using Windows XP alone. The "third-party utilities" such as Norton Ghost and PowerQuest DriveImage and PowerDeploy boot to DOS and do sector-by-sector copies.
Volume Shadow Copy cannot make a working copy of a fully-installed disk containing Windows XP. Your post seems to indicate that you have not tried this yourself, but only seen others do it. I've tried it, and it doesn't work. I've asked Microsoft, and they agree. Who is correct, Microsoft and I, or you?
You are mistaken. Try it sometime. Copy all files from a bootable partition to another bootable partition. You will find that some files did not copy. That's why Norton Ghost and PowerQuest DriveImage boot to DOS.
See this article for other reasons a government MUST use open source software: Windows XP Shows the Direction Microsoft is Going.
The subheadings in that article tell the story:
A government that uses proprietary software is not an independent government.
You cannot know now to what contract provisions you will be held in the future.
Microsoft Keeps Control: Microsoft has abandoned its earlier successful business model.
Microsoft restricts your software options.
Backup Problems: Windows XP cannot copy some of its own files.
I've studied this for more than 30 years. I've found that there is no mental slowing caused by age. There is mental slowing in many people, but it is not caused by age.
This is a common hoax. Maybe 2 years ago, another Slashdot editor posted this hoax. So, it's a repeat hoax for Slashdot, too.
Maybe there should be a .ZIE extension, for .ZIP encrypted.
Yeah, that's the idea. Just a coating thick enough to lend stiffness to anything that doesn't like force. Might have to do two coats.
Of course, it is necessary put the card in a vacuum and draw out the air somewhat before coating. That eliminates the bubbles.
From the story: "The real question is whether their network card will survive 10 seconds at 15 Gs!"
It will if it is embedded in epoxy.
TIA has nothing to do with protecting U.S. citizens from terrorism. It is instead part of a hidden political agenda.
Every year, the U.S. government gives between $3.5 billion and $5.5 billion to Jews in Israel. This money is used to kill Arabs. (The Jews call it defense.) The terrorism toward the U.S. was caused by Arabs who feel they have no other way to protest the brutality of moving them from their homeland, and continuing to kill them, to make a new country called Israel. They are sacrificing their lives to try to make a statement. I don't think violence is justified, but the U.S. government thinks violence is justified, the Jews think violence is justified, and it would be illogical to think that violence is okay for politically powerful groups in the U.S., but not for the people they want to kill.
The people who have brought you TIA have also put the U.S. government back into the huge debt it was in during the Reagan-Bush years. The people who want corruption cause the U.S. government to borrow money so that they can spend it (tax cut) to make themselves look good and on high-profit weapons.
Here are a few links that discuss other kinds of corruption:
War Profiteers card deck.
"Speaking to Pentagon reporters in a video teleconference from Iraq, General Conway said, 'What the regime was intending to do in terms of its use of the weapons, we thought we understood.' He added, 'We were simply wrong.'" [last paragraphs]
Secretary of State General Powell believes he may have been lied to about weapons in Iraq: Powell's doubts over CIA intelligence on Iraq prompted him to set up secret review.
"Could be the greatest intelligence hoax of all time."
More about war profiteers and conflict of interest: Lawmaker Questions Scope Of Iraq-Related Contracts.
Questionable accounting practices -- The U.S. government becomes another Enron scam:
Questionable accounting practices in the U.S. government: "The U.S. government is broke." George Bush gave U.S. citizens a tax cut, but it was fraud. The tax cut will be paid by money the U.S. government will borrow.
Questionable accounting practices at Halliburton, Vice President of the U.S. Dick Cheney's company.
Should U.S. President George W. Bush be impeached?
In a CNN article, John Dean asks, "Is lying about the reason for a war an impeachable offense?"
An Associated Press article reports that a retired Department of State analyst says the Bush administration was "not entirely honest".
International reaction is extremely negative. The Hindustan Times mentions that "a former CIA analyst with 25 years' experience"
I just started Open Office 1.0.3.1 and it started with the same speed as Microsoft Word, maybe a little faster. Mozilla is great (but Mozilla Firebird is better).
Maybe I get better performance because I use very well-supported hardware. Also, when MS Office is installed, it loads a component that starts every time you start your computer. Be sure that is disabled when you run tests.
I've been reading the posts to this story, and I can see that many people don't understand the underlying issues.
Here is a fact that is symbolic of why organizations switch to Linux: Microsoft Windows XP cannot copy all of its own files! Microsoft decided to treat all of its customers as though they were criminals just because some were making illegal copies. So, Microsoft crippled the Windows XP file system to prevent people from cloning their copies of Windows. This vastly increases the problems in using Windows XP, for everyone, because full hard disk backups become more difficult.
For more about Microsoft's anti-customer behavior, see Windows XP Shows the Direction Microsoft is Going.
Organizations have had enough of Microsoft's hostile behavior toward them. That's the underlying reason they are switching to Linux.
Also, governments cannot ensure independence if they use proprietary, closed-source software. Could the United States government's NSA or CIA or FBI demand that a hidden back door be put in Microsoft software so that it could investigate what another government is doing? Certainly. Obviously, an agency that is authorized to kill people and destroy their property will not feel morally limited when considering corruption of software.
Parent comment is only at +4. Mod parent up.
Can someone help us here? I certainly believe my own experience. The parent poster seems to have experience, also. Why do we have different experiences?
For office work, Linux seems fine to me on slow machines.
Hushmail looks okay, better than Hotmail or Yahoo mail. But Hushmail's terms of service discourage me:
ACCOUNT TERMINATION
Hush may terminate your access to the Service and any related service(s) at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately, for any reason whatsoever. Hush has no obligation to store or forward the contents of your account.
I can understand why they do this. It is some lawyer trying to protect them from all liability using easily-written, strong language. However, it's not what I need; for email I need a true business partner, not someone who may disappear overnight because of a business mistake, and is planning ahead for such a possibility.
What you have said here is very interesting.
Don't worry about Linux on old systems, however. I run Linux on a 233 MHz computer that I rescued from a customer's upgrade a long time ago. It works fine. My experience is that Linux is much faster on old hardware than Windows.
When I hear these stories, I'm always surprised how many city workers there are who have computers. My conception of city administration is that there must be many who don't work at desks.