That would be correct. Note how Google has Google Labs and Google Code... If they're not playing to the slashdot/digg crowd, then they're not playing in the same game as Google!
That's why Google gets Geekshare and Yahoo doesn't. Google wants their people involved 20% of their time in non-work projects. Getting involved in those little tools is a great way for Google's engineers to show community involvement. Yahoo seems more "normal" in their business sense.. in other words keep everybody busy doing "real work" but they miss looking out for the future and that is what's grabbing Google all the happiness lately.
Mossberg was comparing the out-of-the-box experience from a preconfigured machine Dell sent him. He didn't have to deal with install at all. He did about 1 paragraph of "valid" argument that some things in the software didn't work correctly... and they should have.
But he made no mention of what DID work. The Dell should have had everything working... CD burning, DVD burning, 3D effects, wireless, internet, office.... etc. He made no mention at all about what he tried to DO with the machine. All he pointed out was that his camera and iPod didn't work when plugged in. The camera is another issue to probably fix, but the iPod doesn't include software for Linux in it's package...why would it work with Linux? Then he dives into the useless troll that it's free, but it's still not good enough and should be better if people want to do serious work... Blah, blah...
For being a tech journalist, it was a trash review... it had no "journalism" at all, and was merely an excuse to dismiss Linux for another few years without reporting on what's actually going on... just like the corporate masters like it.
That's really an "ethical" decision most other people don't have to make. After all, you're paid to fix the computer, you have to open file and examine them to test if email is fixed, or to make sure you've gotten all the viruses. In most cases IT staff is either looking at COMPANY computers (which as IT staff they have permission to do under company policy) or they're looking at personal computers (which no rules really apply to). Sure IT staff isn't supposed to read the big bosses email.. but on the other hand what kind of person hands over the machine with access to sensitive information, or rather what kind of boss puts their employees in the position of knowing stuff that would negatively affect the company outside their scope... who calls the low level tech to work on the company president's PC then gets upset that the tech rats out the boss is firing 100 people next week? Doctors, lawyers, accountants, all have strict legally enforce confidentiality.. if they happen to be tending you while reading bad stuff they're legally obligated NOT to rat you out except in very specific cases. IT staff are more like immigrant housekeepers, under paid, under appreciated, and not really managed well as long as the work gets done. The REAL question to ask is whether you have data on your machine properly secured from eyes you don't WANT to see it.. not worrying about what somebody might do if they saw your hidden stash of porn or cooked books.
you hit the point that Linux does not make money for developers but wealth for users. The REAL Microsoft monopoly is on mindshare that they (or somebody) need to be paid (however small) to make computers work. While lots of companies are "embracing" Linux most are using it as a "fad" to sink you into their products more.. never giving you the things you really need (like drivers) trying to bring "free" to their side. Microsoft is trying to get "free" under control so people don't think they can use computers for free and just pay for hardware and the software that makes them money... Microsoft is like Walmart, built on providing the same "crap" to everybody. If something changes that, then game over if you can just break Active Directory, Exchange, and Office. Microsoft is buying the competition so they don't have to actually compete.
for those of you with leased cars think of it like haveing to re-agree to the lease each time you drove the car, even though you paid up front and arranged financing for 3 years of driving. After all, you might drive too far so they might decide you don't need to take trips more than 500 miles from home even though you paid for "unlimited " use to 12,000 miles per year. Or how about deciding after you'd paid where you'll buy your gas and oil changes. In "real" space that would be stupid, but it's exactly what MS is trying to pull here.
not really, he could be spending that time moving things ahead. The technical decisions are almost worthwhile, but their entirely trying to copy microsoft. They're not Apple and Miguel isn't jobs. At best Bill Gates has maybe heard of him. Miguel is just a business wananabe, while it would be nice to get even 1% of Microsoft's yearly take, it won't happen. In the case of standards like.Net or Office he'll never get there, hell Apple has a lawsuit-provoked open license to M$ patent list and they still only get 95% compatibility. Open Source at this point is "with us or against us". Even Apple with use of BSD doesn't get it and open up to formats like Vorbis, Theora or ODF.. when they are under the same open license they use for their main OS!
He's a shill now. we know from Groklaw that the MS-Novell contract does not cover "copycat" technology. So Openoffice, mono, samba, etc are all "excluded" from patent coverage protection. This would mean that silverlight is neither under the contract (much like GPL 3 is not under the contract for Microsoft) and it is also a "copycat" technology so it's excluded that way.
This is where those Utah mormon guys just don't get it. Like SCO before them, they've made a "deal with the devil" and in 3 years they'll be suing Red Hat because they "own" linux and Unix and Red Hat has been "stealing" from them for the last 15 years. I don't get how anybody can still believe the Microsoft deal makers with their gold fiddles. MS is like Walmart.. they never make a bad deal for THEM. Even when they lose, somebody else under them is made to pay for it. Why the Novell guys and in particular why Miguel in 10 years of Gnome, and Mono and GTK hasn't seen it. The time is to FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. It's not even about "ending" Microsoft, it's more about playing the game down to the Whistle and having more than one "team" to root for... Who'd want to see a Football game where the team is paid to walk off the field in the third quarter? We don't accept that in rather trivial sports like baseball or football... we have congressional hearings about players "maybe" cheating... but we allow business to do anything with thousands of people's livelihoods in the name of "business".
bad because it's work for other Foreign companies not growth by US companies. So even the "corporate masters" are foreign now!
But it is a good thing because US workers really do know their stuff as much as their bosses badmouth them. US workers still increase actual productivity faster than anyplace else they're just not "cheaper" when you front billions of dollars of new capital for new plants.... elsewhere.
I wonder the same thing. Personally, I'd assume any B-52 to be carrying nukes.. as the CIA doesn't even tell PILOTS what they're carrying sometimes I'd always assume a Nuclear capable bomber to be carrying nukes. That they point out they were "carried across the country" is yellow journalism at it's finest. Pretty much all nukes come from Oak Ridge Tenn. If you're between a military base and that point, nukes have a pretty good chance of traveling over your head at some point during the year. Yellow journalism aside, what's the point of blowing the whistle except to get something that is REALLY national security made highly public and somebody fired? So somebody put the wrong batch of weapons on a WARPLANE. It happens, and the weapons' "protection process" should anticipate errors at any point and be prepared to secure them. That this should have even been brought to the Preident's attention shows a serious lack of standards and professionalism from the "downright parinoid" time of SAC in the 60's thru 80's. Sounds like Bush has planted a firm political movement in the military of "with us or against us"... but they believe his political agenda hook, line and sinker!
you are correct, but there are some more rules to the "game" if you will. The minimum wage is supposed to be "per shift" if you don't get enough tips, they have to chip in to get you to "minimum"... many places have started cheating by making it "per week", meaning that other than weekends you don't work for minimum wage so good nites tips are subsidizing the resturant. Another scam is the trend to make waitresses claim actual tips based off reciepts (including the bill for walk offs!) or 10-15% instead of the legaly required 8%. This was put low on purpose, if you've been to DC you'd know tipping is very heavy there and the law is a nod to all those people that wait on congresscritters. It does benifit the workers by increasing their taxable income and thru that things like Social Security benifits later down the road. But who wants to pay taxes they don't have to just to pad the employers books?
because the cop would have high-powered digital radios and perhaps radar gun turned on while they test you in front of the bright lights. In the given environment, the low probability of circumstances is nearly certain to be in place to cause failure.
If it's creative commons licensed, it should be available from their site for free as well. That's the issue with scientific papers being "fee for view" in a nutshell. The publishers are so used to gathering papers from universities that they just gobbled it up and slapped a price tag on it without even looking at the license. It's their "right" as academic publishers to do this. (just like it's a college student's right to put free-to-air shows on pirate bay! after all the TV station didn't charge for it!)
isn't this the same law HP's president Dunn broke.. it's the EXACT same thing. She didn't tell them to break the law, they brought her the illegally obtained records and she ran with it. Why is it OK for the MPAA lawyers but not for a company prez that was merely overzelous in their pursuit of an internal matter?
I'm related to LEGAL Mexicans. It's quite insulting to them for those that sneak across because they pay thousands of dollars and have to hold jobs and wait 7 years to be real citizens. Most of them do a great deal of supporting families back home (and the money they earn here at modest wages makes them "rich" in Mexico).
the side note is that in the name of "security" GW is making 20 million LEGAL US citizens get passports to VISIT Mexico or Canada because WE can't be trusted? We will soon have to have federal certified ID's to make sure the CITIZENS are legal.. but we ignore 2-3 million people here illegally? WTF? Why should honest people give up stuff, but the govt do nothing about the mass of illegals?
the bigger point on a site like slashdot is that we have "law and order" Republicans in power demanding we let THEM spy on honest, tax paying citizens and attack evil, terrorist countries without any oversight whatsoever. All in the name of security. What about the wide open gate to the south that lets god-knows-who in? Shouldn't that be dealt with? in the name of security, shouldn't we stop ILLEGAL immigrants from entering... after all if you can smuggle a whole box truck of drugs or living people across the board, could they not be terrorists with bombs? The point being they're coming ILLEGALLY while I (and 20 million others) have to buy a passport to cross into Canada next year LEGALLY! Stop hassling the LEGAL residents and take it out on the ILLEGAL people here and send them home.
considering EVERYTHING Star Wars passed thru Lucas Licensing before being published, the prequel trilogy was awful. The hints given in the expanded stories were often encouraged by Lucas himself passed thru the licensing department. Lucas really slapped the true fans around with what he did in 1,2, & 3.
this is exactly why companies are pushing to keep the anti-trust case open a little longer. The current remedy is toothless, but it's like double-secret probation. As long as it's in place there's somebody to take this too. Sort of like grandma being able to get the PO officer to rattle a wayward kid's cage. I'd agree that while this can't be "prosecuted" in the US, "probation" if you call what M$ is on now doesn't matter what's "legal" it matters what the watcher "believes" is legal and in the spirit of the agreement made. This behavior shows Microsoft is not dealing fairly and is "biding their time" for the clock to run down... more reasons to lengthen the "time-out" a bit until they learn to play fair. Preventing M$ from overrunning a standards body while the industry gets its but in gear is the best way to cut the wind from Microsoft's sails.
PCI is talking about the "network" that touches their money. The best way to handle things like iPhones is to make the POS network separate and hardened from everything else. If you have Wi-fi or such it's always treated as a hostile device... always. Then you don't have a problem.
excellent point, they should borrow the idea of "tickets" from Kerberos. That a vendor never sees the CC number, but rather the "ticket" number from the CC company that ties your cc# to their vendor# and can only be used for that transaction, or you could make reusable ones for a certain number of transactions before it's no good and store that number on the server.
exactly!!! All the drives are BUILT in China right now. When the Chinese want to, they will do whatever they want to spy on us and we won't be able to stop it!
not having any ACTUAL COMPUTERS at the stores was the downfall I think. They had a lot of things like the Apple store, classes, training, but no repair, upgrade or hardware sales! It would seem to defeat the purpose of putting all the cool computers out there only to tell you to order it and wait 2 weeks for shipping. I also find my local "screwdriver" shop does this to. The point of being a computer store it to walk in and buy stuff!!! If you can't do that one simple thing, then I might as well go to BigBox where I can take home a crappy computer and take home the parts to upgrade it myself!!!
simple, they are given a monopoly on the whole area so that they may gain some "unfair" price advantage while under contract to provide the service to other parts of a country that would not be financially beneficial. Think of it like a privatized version of a progressive tax for roads or defense or health care.. only run by a private company so it should be more efficient... or at least that's the idea. The problem is that the companies always want to do the least toward their contractual obligation, but have no problem exercising their "rights" to collect profit. Witness the pathetic rollout of Broadband in the USA...
but say you download a project from a young Finnish lad. Under the ITAR, you can't discuss or upload patches to that SAME writer as it would be "exporting weapons".
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That would be correct. Note how Google has Google Labs and Google Code... If they're not playing to the slashdot/digg crowd, then they're not playing in the same game as Google!
That's why Google gets Geekshare and Yahoo doesn't. Google wants their people involved 20% of their time in non-work projects. Getting involved in those little tools is a great way for Google's engineers to show community involvement. Yahoo seems more "normal" in their business sense.. in other words keep everybody busy doing "real work" but they miss looking out for the future and that is what's grabbing Google all the happiness lately.
Mossberg was comparing the out-of-the-box experience from a preconfigured machine Dell sent him. He didn't have to deal with install at all. He did about 1 paragraph of "valid" argument that some things in the software didn't work correctly... and they should have.
But he made no mention of what DID work. The Dell should have had everything working... CD burning, DVD burning, 3D effects, wireless, internet, office.... etc. He made no mention at all about what he tried to DO with the machine. All he pointed out was that his camera and iPod didn't work when plugged in. The camera is another issue to probably fix, but the iPod doesn't include software for Linux in it's package...why would it work with Linux? Then he dives into the useless troll that it's free, but it's still not good enough and should be better if people want to do serious work... Blah, blah...
For being a tech journalist, it was a trash review... it had no "journalism" at all, and was merely an excuse to dismiss Linux for another few years without reporting on what's actually going on... just like the corporate masters like it.
That's really an "ethical" decision most other people don't have to make. After all, you're paid to fix the computer, you have to open file and examine them to test if email is fixed, or to make sure you've gotten all the viruses. In most cases IT staff is either looking at COMPANY computers (which as IT staff they have permission to do under company policy) or they're looking at personal computers (which no rules really apply to). Sure IT staff isn't supposed to read the big bosses email.. but on the other hand what kind of person hands over the machine with access to sensitive information, or rather what kind of boss puts their employees in the position of knowing stuff that would negatively affect the company outside their scope... who calls the low level tech to work on the company president's PC then gets upset that the tech rats out the boss is firing 100 people next week? Doctors, lawyers, accountants, all have strict legally enforce confidentiality.. if they happen to be tending you while reading bad stuff they're legally obligated NOT to rat you out except in very specific cases. IT staff are more like immigrant housekeepers, under paid, under appreciated, and not really managed well as long as the work gets done. The REAL question to ask is whether you have data on your machine properly secured from eyes you don't WANT to see it.. not worrying about what somebody might do if they saw your hidden stash of porn or cooked books.
you hit the point that Linux does not make money for developers but wealth for users. The REAL Microsoft monopoly is on mindshare that they (or somebody) need to be paid (however small) to make computers work. While lots of companies are "embracing" Linux most are using it as a "fad" to sink you into their products more.. never giving you the things you really need (like drivers) trying to bring "free" to their side. Microsoft is trying to get "free" under control so people don't think they can use computers for free and just pay for hardware and the software that makes them money... Microsoft is like Walmart, built on providing the same "crap" to everybody. If something changes that, then game over if you can just break Active Directory, Exchange, and Office. Microsoft is buying the competition so they don't have to actually compete.
for those of you with leased cars think of it like haveing to re-agree to the lease each time you drove the car, even though you paid up front and arranged financing for 3 years of driving. After all, you might drive too far so they might decide you don't need to take trips more than 500 miles from home even though you paid for "unlimited " use to 12,000 miles per year. Or how about deciding after you'd paid where you'll buy your gas and oil changes. In "real" space that would be stupid, but it's exactly what MS is trying to pull here.
not really, he could be spending that time moving things ahead. The technical decisions are almost worthwhile, but their entirely trying to copy microsoft. They're not Apple and Miguel isn't jobs. At best Bill Gates has maybe heard of him. Miguel is just a business wananabe, while it would be nice to get even 1% of Microsoft's yearly take, it won't happen. In the case of standards like .Net or Office he'll never get there, hell Apple has a lawsuit-provoked open license to M$ patent list and they still only get 95% compatibility. Open Source at this point is "with us or against us". Even Apple with use of BSD doesn't get it and open up to formats like Vorbis, Theora or ODF.. when they are under the same open license they use for their main OS!
He's a shill now. we know from Groklaw that the MS-Novell contract does not cover "copycat" technology. So Openoffice, mono, samba, etc are all "excluded" from patent coverage protection. This would mean that silverlight is neither under the contract (much like GPL 3 is not under the contract for Microsoft) and it is also a "copycat" technology so it's excluded that way.
This is where those Utah mormon guys just don't get it. Like SCO before them, they've made a "deal with the devil" and in 3 years they'll be suing Red Hat because they "own" linux and Unix and Red Hat has been "stealing" from them for the last 15 years. I don't get how anybody can still believe the Microsoft deal makers with their gold fiddles. MS is like Walmart.. they never make a bad deal for THEM. Even when they lose, somebody else under them is made to pay for it. Why the Novell guys and in particular why Miguel in 10 years of Gnome, and Mono and GTK hasn't seen it. The time is to FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. It's not even about "ending" Microsoft, it's more about playing the game down to the Whistle and having more than one "team" to root for... Who'd want to see a Football game where the team is paid to walk off the field in the third quarter? We don't accept that in rather trivial sports like baseball or football... we have congressional hearings about players "maybe" cheating... but we allow business to do anything with thousands of people's livelihoods in the name of "business".
bad because it's work for other Foreign companies not growth by US companies. So even the "corporate masters" are foreign now! .... elsewhere.
But it is a good thing because US workers really do know their stuff as much as their bosses badmouth them. US workers still increase actual productivity faster than anyplace else they're just not "cheaper" when you front billions of dollars of new capital for new plants
I wonder the same thing. Personally, I'd assume any B-52 to be carrying nukes.. as the CIA doesn't even tell PILOTS what they're carrying sometimes I'd always assume a Nuclear capable bomber to be carrying nukes. That they point out they were "carried across the country" is yellow journalism at it's finest. Pretty much all nukes come from Oak Ridge Tenn. If you're between a military base and that point, nukes have a pretty good chance of traveling over your head at some point during the year. Yellow journalism aside, what's the point of blowing the whistle except to get something that is REALLY national security made highly public and somebody fired? So somebody put the wrong batch of weapons on a WARPLANE. It happens, and the weapons' "protection process" should anticipate errors at any point and be prepared to secure them. That this should have even been brought to the Preident's attention shows a serious lack of standards and professionalism from the "downright parinoid" time of SAC in the 60's thru 80's. Sounds like Bush has planted a firm political movement in the military of "with us or against us" ... but they believe his political agenda hook, line and sinker!
you are correct, but there are some more rules to the "game" if you will. The minimum wage is supposed to be "per shift" if you don't get enough tips, they have to chip in to get you to "minimum" ... many places have started cheating by making it "per week", meaning that other than weekends you don't work for minimum wage so good nites tips are subsidizing the resturant. Another scam is the trend to make waitresses claim actual tips based off reciepts (including the bill for walk offs!) or 10-15% instead of the legaly required 8%. This was put low on purpose, if you've been to DC you'd know tipping is very heavy there and the law is a nod to all those people that wait on congresscritters. It does benifit the workers by increasing their taxable income and thru that things like Social Security benifits later down the road. But who wants to pay taxes they don't have to just to pad the employers books?
because the cop would have high-powered digital radios and perhaps radar gun turned on while they test you in front of the bright lights. In the given environment, the low probability of circumstances is nearly certain to be in place to cause failure.
If it's creative commons licensed, it should be available from their site for free as well. That's the issue with scientific papers being "fee for view" in a nutshell. The publishers are so used to gathering papers from universities that they just gobbled it up and slapped a price tag on it without even looking at the license. It's their "right" as academic publishers to do this. (just like it's a college student's right to put free-to-air shows on pirate bay! after all the TV station didn't charge for it!)
just remind windows XP users to get the ISO Power Tool that lets XP burn iso images natively. not that hard and no money required.
isn't this the same law HP's president Dunn broke.. it's the EXACT same thing. She didn't tell them to break the law, they brought her the illegally obtained records and she ran with it. Why is it OK for the MPAA lawyers but not for a company prez that was merely overzelous in their pursuit of an internal matter?
I'm related to LEGAL Mexicans. It's quite insulting to them for those that sneak across because they pay thousands of dollars and have to hold jobs and wait 7 years to be real citizens. Most of them do a great deal of supporting families back home (and the money they earn here at modest wages makes them "rich" in Mexico).
the side note is that in the name of "security" GW is making 20 million LEGAL US citizens get passports to VISIT Mexico or Canada because WE can't be trusted? We will soon have to have federal certified ID's to make sure the CITIZENS are legal.. but we ignore 2-3 million people here illegally? WTF? Why should honest people give up stuff, but the govt do nothing about the mass of illegals?
the bigger point on a site like slashdot is that we have "law and order" Republicans in power demanding we let THEM spy on honest, tax paying citizens and attack evil, terrorist countries without any oversight whatsoever. All in the name of security. What about the wide open gate to the south that lets god-knows-who in? Shouldn't that be dealt with? in the name of security, shouldn't we stop ILLEGAL immigrants from entering... after all if you can smuggle a whole box truck of drugs or living people across the board, could they not be terrorists with bombs? The point being they're coming ILLEGALLY while I (and 20 million others) have to buy a passport to cross into Canada next year LEGALLY! Stop hassling the LEGAL residents and take it out on the ILLEGAL people here and send them home.
considering EVERYTHING Star Wars passed thru Lucas Licensing before being published, the prequel trilogy was awful. The hints given in the expanded stories were often encouraged by Lucas himself passed thru the licensing department. Lucas really slapped the true fans around with what he did in 1,2, & 3.
this is exactly why companies are pushing to keep the anti-trust case open a little longer. The current remedy is toothless, but it's like double-secret probation. As long as it's in place there's somebody to take this too. Sort of like grandma being able to get the PO officer to rattle a wayward kid's cage. I'd agree that while this can't be "prosecuted" in the US, "probation" if you call what M$ is on now doesn't matter what's "legal" it matters what the watcher "believes" is legal and in the spirit of the agreement made. This behavior shows Microsoft is not dealing fairly and is "biding their time" for the clock to run down... more reasons to lengthen the "time-out" a bit until they learn to play fair. Preventing M$ from overrunning a standards body while the industry gets its but in gear is the best way to cut the wind from Microsoft's sails.
PCI is talking about the "network" that touches their money. The best way to handle things like iPhones is to make the POS network separate and hardened from everything else. If you have Wi-fi or such it's always treated as a hostile device... always. Then you don't have a problem.
excellent point, they should borrow the idea of "tickets" from Kerberos. That a vendor never sees the CC number, but rather the "ticket" number from the CC company that ties your cc# to their vendor# and can only be used for that transaction, or you could make reusable ones for a certain number of transactions before it's no good and store that number on the server.
exactly!!! All the drives are BUILT in China right now. When the Chinese want to, they will do whatever they want to spy on us and we won't be able to stop it!
not having any ACTUAL COMPUTERS at the stores was the downfall I think. They had a lot of things like the Apple store, classes, training, but no repair, upgrade or hardware sales! It would seem to defeat the purpose of putting all the cool computers out there only to tell you to order it and wait 2 weeks for shipping. I also find my local "screwdriver" shop does this to. The point of being a computer store it to walk in and buy stuff!!! If you can't do that one simple thing, then I might as well go to BigBox where I can take home a crappy computer and take home the parts to upgrade it myself!!!
simple, they are given a monopoly on the whole area so that they may gain some "unfair" price advantage while under contract to provide the service to other parts of a country that would not be financially beneficial. Think of it like a privatized version of a progressive tax for roads or defense or health care.. only run by a private company so it should be more efficient ... or at least that's the idea. The problem is that the companies always want to do the least toward their contractual obligation, but have no problem exercising their "rights" to collect profit. Witness the pathetic rollout of Broadband in the USA...
but say you download a project from a young Finnish lad. Under the ITAR, you can't discuss or upload patches to that SAME writer as it would be "exporting weapons".