Hi. People still develop thick-client apps. The company I work for, which isn't huge but not tiny either, develops a couple web clients, and several thick ones. Our customers are happy having both. I can understand the desire to have both, but I simply cannot understand peoples' desire to move everything to the browser and forget about thick clients. Yes, web apps have been getting increasingly friendly, but they're still hosted in a browser.
And for what it's worth, I love C#. I didn't think I would at first, but having been using it for a couple years now, I'm dreading going back to (win32) c++, its kludgy preprocessor, its dozen different types of strings, its... general unprettiness. Yes, C# might be less portable, but so? Our customers are governments and large businesses, they all run Windows anyway. (And for the public-facing application for people who just want to retrieve one piece of information from anywhere, who might be using anything, that's what web applications *are* good for.)
By which I think you mean: yo dog, I heard you liked java, so I built an interpreter for your interpreter so you can run bytecode while you run bytecode?
That... is a very good idea. I just discovered I had some Borders gift cards hidden away in a drawer; I figured, eh, I'll use them eventually... nope, clearly I should use them right now. Thanks, slashdot!
But I hate feeling left out:p. I wouldn't mind seeing what all the fuss is about; I've got an email for such things that's the same as my slashdot username, at gmail.
And no, I don't care if everyone knows that; that's sort of the whole *point* of a public email address. You could easily guess it anyway, given, you know, it's my screen name everywhere, @ the most popular email provider.
Fun fact: while it was originally just a mistake, it has since been retconned with an explanation I actually sort of like; namely, that the kessel run takes you through a place called "The Maw", a place full of black holes. A straight line path through it is thus impossible, but the less out of your way you have to travel, the faster you can get through it. But the less out of your way you go, also, the more dangerous it is. Thus, the winning metric *is* distance traveled. Yay retcons!
I know, right? That's just completely ridiculous! Bad enough getting spammed by people who legitimately think it's a good business model, but now I have to get spam from people trying to make people they don't like *look* like they're the bastards who think spamming is a good idea? Fantastic. http://www.microsoft.com
*Never*? Given that you apparently can only think back as far as N64, allow me to expand your search a little further back: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NintendoHard
1. The first twenty levels are the most boring. 2. It takes almost no time to get to level 20, comparatively (which is a good thing: see #1). 3. "Some limitations" is a laugh. I remember the free trial; I used it to make sure my computer could run WoW adequately, after which I immediately upgraded, because you were locked down something *fierce*. Can't have much gold, can't talk in public channels, can't talk to anyone who hasn't already friended you, can't send or receive mail or use the auction house, can't send party invites... does that sound like a very fun MMO? No, it doesn't. It sounds like a crappy single-player game, except with evidence of people all around you having way more fun than you are.
Yes, fine, that's all because every possible social interaction got abused by gold-spammers, and yes, I do enjoy not being spammed by gold-spammers as much. I'm not complaining about the restrictions, I'm just saying: who in their right mind would want to play free-to-play WoW with all those restrictions for more than 30 days, or even 7?
In a sense. About 6 months ago I got an email that my iTunes account had purchased 8 bucks worth of really sketchy-looking apps, which made me a little nervous, so I reported it (mainly because I didn't feel like having those apps show up in my list of purchased items, but also just in case they could track down the actual purchaser, though I didn't think that particularly likely). I didn't have a credit card linked to the account, so they weren't using my money - I assume they were going for some sort of money-laundering, or perhaps testing other peoples' stolen cards or something.
Anyway, when I reported it, they not only removed the weird apps, they also gave me 8 bucks in itunes credit, even though I specifically said not to. Thanks, hackers!
Not that it has anything to do with JoCo, but I actually found this a couple weeks ago from a slashdot post: http://www.anticulture.net/MusicGenerators.php
The others are pretty terrible to listen to, but the "trance" generator, after running them through gxscc, actually resulted in some pretty decent-sounding chiptunes. (I emailed the guy saying he should use them or something like them in a game, and he thought it was a good idea:D).
I prefer to quote the immortal, brilliant MC Hawking on that account, rather than just go with the boring description:
Creationists always try to use the second law, to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw. The second law is quite precise about where it applies, only in a closed system must the entropy count rise. The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun, so fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun! That, in a nutshell, is what entropy's about, you're now down with a discount.
That would have been *extremely* helpful. As someone who had to reverse-engineer the way VB6 serialized a particular object, as part of a migrator from a previous version of an application that had a component that saved its information by dropping a raw, ugly binary blob straight from VB6 into its save file, and that we then needed to read back later without VB6... I think I did a pretty job of it, all things considered, but I would have been extremely happy to replace that whole VB6-deserialization class with one taken from the original source. Oh well.
Really? I hated 3.1's file manager. 95/98/XP-with-optional-shiny-turned-off's file manager was way better. Win7 did indeed take a jillion steps back, however, which is why my Win7 computer now runs explorer++ (it still has a couple annoying bugs, but way fewer of them than native Win7 explorer's. Plus, they might actually get fixed at some point, since it's still being actively maintained).
Yes, everyone knows AOL itself is a horrible service. The only people I know who've ever thought AOL was cool were either under 10 or geriatric at the time. But AIM... despite what it seems most people here are saying, not only have I used AIM pretty constantly for the past decade or more, and so have most of my friends - I still use it. And so do most of my friends. Many of whom are also computery-type people.
Nobody I knew cared about ICQ, ever. I've seen a couple people try to use msn messenger at various times, but the rest of us ignored them. Same with yahoo messenger, google talk, etc. Though Skype's caught on a bit, recently, for some reason. AIM is still by far the most common/popular IM service among the group of "everyone I've interacted with who uses any IM service", though.
Oddly enough, so did I. I don't think it's my brain going, I've just been brainwashed by the whole cs major thing. T.*ing machine = turing machine, clearly. Especially when you're talking about said machine "completing" something.
While silly semantics, I'm going to sort of have to agree with the person you'd been arguing with: the leveling process in WoW is just one extremely lengthy tutorial for the endgame, where the actual interesting game starts. If a single-player RPG had 40 hours of tutorial before the actual game started, and then you needed to run a bunch of sidequest arena things to get your character gear before you could start the game proper (i.e. raiding), I'd say that single-player RPG's character didn't start "ready to play" either, in any meaningful sense.
(And yes, I do play WoW, and had several characters at 80. I'm still working on getting all my alts to 85, cause this most recent not-raid content extension is more boring than most. But I'm a silly completionist like that, so they'll get there eventually.)
Glad to see I'm not the only silly person who's done that!
Walker's World: Russia's 'fracked' future A fracking quandary for EPA Film paints poor picture of fracking What's in Fracking Fluid? Fracking a Gas Well Fracking wastewater radioactive, say state officals
And my favorite, an opinion piece: Let's be positive fracking is safe before we do it
Indeed. I was moderately curious, if some router was off and nobody could find it, how the existence of a murder trial was going to turn it back on, and why that would matter. Seemed like impressive technology.
Or from refusing to honor them. (Hi, HP! Remember me? No, clearly you don't, since you claimed I never bought a computer from you when I tried to use the extended warranty I purchased.)
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Hi. People still develop thick-client apps. The company I work for, which isn't huge but not tiny either, develops a couple web clients, and several thick ones. Our customers are happy having both. I can understand the desire to have both, but I simply cannot understand peoples' desire to move everything to the browser and forget about thick clients. Yes, web apps have been getting increasingly friendly, but they're still hosted in a browser.
And for what it's worth, I love C#. I didn't think I would at first, but having been using it for a couple years now, I'm dreading going back to (win32) c++, its kludgy preprocessor, its dozen different types of strings, its... general unprettiness. Yes, C# might be less portable, but so? Our customers are governments and large businesses, they all run Windows anyway. (And for the public-facing application for people who just want to retrieve one piece of information from anywhere, who might be using anything, that's what web applications *are* good for.)
By which I think you mean: yo dog, I heard you liked java, so I built an interpreter for your interpreter so you can run bytecode while you run bytecode?
That... is a very good idea. I just discovered I had some Borders gift cards hidden away in a drawer; I figured, eh, I'll use them eventually... nope, clearly I should use them right now. Thanks, slashdot!
for Khaaaan!
I've got a fast connection so I don't have to wait
for Khaaaan!
* iifk.ytmnd.com - never has that been more relevant!
Also, the introduction: Finally, I get to teach a whole lesson, all by my self! I'm going to teach something relevant, something modern!
Why not do both at once? Get Your Bootleg On! (Even if that term for mashup is rather archaic, in internet-time.)
But I hate feeling left out :p. I wouldn't mind seeing what all the fuss is about; I've got an email for such things that's the same as my slashdot username, at gmail.
And no, I don't care if everyone knows that; that's sort of the whole *point* of a public email address. You could easily guess it anyway, given, you know, it's my screen name everywhere, @ the most popular email provider.
Fun fact: while it was originally just a mistake, it has since been retconned with an explanation I actually sort of like; namely, that the kessel run takes you through a place called "The Maw", a place full of black holes. A straight line path through it is thus impossible, but the less out of your way you have to travel, the faster you can get through it. But the less out of your way you go, also, the more dangerous it is. Thus, the winning metric *is* distance traveled. Yay retcons!
I know, right? That's just completely ridiculous! Bad enough getting spammed by people who legitimately think it's a good business model, but now I have to get spam from people trying to make people they don't like *look* like they're the bastards who think spamming is a good idea? Fantastic. http://www.microsoft.com
*Never*? Given that you apparently can only think back as far as N64, allow me to expand your search a little further back: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NintendoHard
1. The first twenty levels are the most boring.
2. It takes almost no time to get to level 20, comparatively (which is a good thing: see #1).
3. "Some limitations" is a laugh. I remember the free trial; I used it to make sure my computer could run WoW adequately, after which I immediately upgraded, because you were locked down something *fierce*. Can't have much gold, can't talk in public channels, can't talk to anyone who hasn't already friended you, can't send or receive mail or use the auction house, can't send party invites... does that sound like a very fun MMO? No, it doesn't. It sounds like a crappy single-player game, except with evidence of people all around you having way more fun than you are.
Yes, fine, that's all because every possible social interaction got abused by gold-spammers, and yes, I do enjoy not being spammed by gold-spammers as much. I'm not complaining about the restrictions, I'm just saying: who in their right mind would want to play free-to-play WoW with all those restrictions for more than 30 days, or even 7?
Indeed! Tax avoidance includes not only tax evasion, but also dodge, parry, absorb, and deflect! (Sorry, I couldn't resist. >.>)
In a sense. About 6 months ago I got an email that my iTunes account had purchased 8 bucks worth of really sketchy-looking apps, which made me a little nervous, so I reported it (mainly because I didn't feel like having those apps show up in my list of purchased items, but also just in case they could track down the actual purchaser, though I didn't think that particularly likely). I didn't have a credit card linked to the account, so they weren't using my money - I assume they were going for some sort of money-laundering, or perhaps testing other peoples' stolen cards or something.
Anyway, when I reported it, they not only removed the weird apps, they also gave me 8 bucks in itunes credit, even though I specifically said not to. Thanks, hackers!
At all. Just give me back my 16:10 aspect ratio. I'd accept 4:3, too, but I honestly prefer 16:10. 16:9 is just an abomination.
Glossy screens are fine, though.
Not that it has anything to do with JoCo, but I actually found this a couple weeks ago from a slashdot post: http://www.anticulture.net/MusicGenerators.php
:D).
The others are pretty terrible to listen to, but the "trance" generator, after running them through gxscc, actually resulted in some pretty decent-sounding chiptunes. (I emailed the guy saying he should use them or something like them in a game, and he thought it was a good idea
I prefer to quote the immortal, brilliant MC Hawking on that account, rather than just go with the boring description:
Creationists always try to use the second law,
to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw.
The second law is quite precise about where it applies,
only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun,
so fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!
That, in a nutshell, is what entropy's about,
you're now down with a discount.
That would have been *extremely* helpful. As someone who had to reverse-engineer the way VB6 serialized a particular object, as part of a migrator from a previous version of an application that had a component that saved its information by dropping a raw, ugly binary blob straight from VB6 into its save file, and that we then needed to read back later without VB6... I think I did a pretty job of it, all things considered, but I would have been extremely happy to replace that whole VB6-deserialization class with one taken from the original source. Oh well.
Really? I hated 3.1's file manager. 95/98/XP-with-optional-shiny-turned-off's file manager was way better. Win7 did indeed take a jillion steps back, however, which is why my Win7 computer now runs explorer++ (it still has a couple annoying bugs, but way fewer of them than native Win7 explorer's. Plus, they might actually get fixed at some point, since it's still being actively maintained).
I really wish I hadn't spent all my mod points already... can some people please mod this post (+1 everything)?
Cause that sounds like a pretty cool hand. If he'd been, he could've gotten a pretty nifty nickname, like say... Cool Hand Luke?
Oh, right. You were probably going for the Star Wars reference.
Yes, everyone knows AOL itself is a horrible service. The only people I know who've ever thought AOL was cool were either under 10 or geriatric at the time. But AIM... despite what it seems most people here are saying, not only have I used AIM pretty constantly for the past decade or more, and so have most of my friends - I still use it. And so do most of my friends. Many of whom are also computery-type people.
Nobody I knew cared about ICQ, ever. I've seen a couple people try to use msn messenger at various times, but the rest of us ignored them. Same with yahoo messenger, google talk, etc. Though Skype's caught on a bit, recently, for some reason. AIM is still by far the most common/popular IM service among the group of "everyone I've interacted with who uses any IM service", though.
Oddly enough, so did I. I don't think it's my brain going, I've just been brainwashed by the whole cs major thing. T.*ing machine = turing machine, clearly. Especially when you're talking about said machine "completing" something.
While silly semantics, I'm going to sort of have to agree with the person you'd been arguing with: the leveling process in WoW is just one extremely lengthy tutorial for the endgame, where the actual interesting game starts. If a single-player RPG had 40 hours of tutorial before the actual game started, and then you needed to run a bunch of sidequest arena things to get your character gear before you could start the game proper (i.e. raiding), I'd say that single-player RPG's character didn't start "ready to play" either, in any meaningful sense.
(And yes, I do play WoW, and had several characters at 80. I'm still working on getting all my alts to 85, cause this most recent not-raid content extension is more boring than most. But I'm a silly completionist like that, so they'll get there eventually.)
Glad to see I'm not the only silly person who's done that!
Walker's World: Russia's 'fracked' future
A fracking quandary for EPA
Film paints poor picture of fracking
What's in Fracking Fluid?
Fracking a Gas Well
Fracking wastewater radioactive, say state officals
And my favorite, an opinion piece:
Let's be positive fracking is safe before we do it
Indeed. I was moderately curious, if some router was off and nobody could find it, how the existence of a murder trial was going to turn it back on, and why that would matter. Seemed like impressive technology.
Or from refusing to honor them. (Hi, HP! Remember me? No, clearly you don't, since you claimed I never bought a computer from you when I tried to use the extended warranty I purchased.)