Well, the installation documentation states a specific version of JRE and that is NOT the latest version.
The leazt you could have done, was to follow the installation prerequisites in the installation guide. When you don't, you do get problems.
Toy-OS - Windows... Well, why don't you tell me how to trace a process under Windows with a tool like strace or truss or glance? Which tool do I use to list all open files under Windows? How can I trace a certain thread under Windows?
The problem is that Windows has zero tools useable for diagnostic of problems and for tracing. It is the most horrible OS to use and the wast majority oif stupid issues in regards to Oracle originates in the Windows world. The difference between support issues on UNIX and Windows is amazing. Many issues under Windows is due to people who think installing Oracle is like installing any other program and that you don't need to read anything nor do you have to follow instructions. This is the biggest problem with Windows, i.e the people who use it.
During the creation of a database, you have the opportunity (in the installer really) to configure the SGA. The default value is meant to be good enough for a starter database with several users and not for a single desktop PC. That is not the target and if you don't know how to configure an Oracle database, then you should really get some training because it is wastly more complex than antyhing else you have touched. If you just laugh ar this, you will have problems with an Oracle installation. It does require quite a bit of knowledge in order to work with it. And yes, it requires a lot more resources than anything else you have used too, the documentation clearly states what the minimum requirements are for a server running oracle, but again, you seem to ignore these facts.
Very interesting issue, since I have never seen a similar install issue and I have worked with installation issues for over 10 years.
The problem could have easily been diagnosed if you had used a real OS and not a toy OS like Windows. I take it that you checked which process were hogging CPU and since it was the installer, I'm 100% sure that your problem was with the version of JRE installed on your machine. It would have been nice to have an RDA (Remote Diagnostic Agent) output from your machine since the problem is on your side and not on Oracle's.
What is more interesting is that you show a total lack of knowledge about oracle. 400MB is easy to reduce on a single user database, but yes this is a much more resource needy system than your average editor or browser, but then again, Oracle database is probably the most complex piece of software available on the market. So yes, it will use a lot of resources and it is not intended as a single user database. Use Express or some other slimmed down database or learn how to configure it, take a 5 day DBA class. Without it, you can just as well deinstall it or hire someone who knows it.
Personally, I have worked with all versions since 4 and we are now on 10.2.0.2, that means I have about 20 years experience with Oracle.
10gR1 is available on OS/390 and works very well and include all the same features as any other platform.
OS/400 is a different beast and very different from z/OS (OS/390) and UNIX/LINUX world and currently this market is very well covered by IBM and most AS/400 customers are fanatical IBM customers. Not a market that Oracle put much interest in, nor is there much money to be had in this market anymore.
Oracle's code consists of 2 parts, one general part which is identical on all supported platforms and one machine dependent part which is handled by each porting group once the general release is done on Linux. Depending on the platform, this can be a very daunting task with the result of later releases on certain platforms. It all depends on which tier your platform belongs to.
All I can say is that after living in USA for the past 10 years, is that USA is more fucked up than any other country I have visited or lived in and at the moment, the count is up to about 40 countries.
It is always Americans without any form of international experience who come with these allegations, and i begin to understand why and the reason why is not very pretty.
Well, I disagree...
I would be happy to store the TV shows online away from my hard disk. Space I can use for something more useful.
Frankly, I don't care if the shows are stored locally here or online as long as I can pull it up and view it on the devices I like. If some of them needs special hardware due to copyrights, I'm fine with that. I couldn't care less if I can't store Friends or South Park for several years or make copies of it, I only watch the show once anyway.
If you want to own a movie or show, buy the DVDs. How difficult is that principle?
I let my knowledge do the talking, not my apperance. I don't need to look a special way to fit in. When that is said, I work for a company where dresscode for everyone outside parts of the company that deals face-to-face with customers, is whatever we want. Then again, my company rewards talent and intelligence and accepts that some of the talent can be rather odd and not suited for customer contact. And it has never done any drugtesting either, it would have had to fire 50-75% of the people in my LOB.
I'm sure you wouldn't mind if some Mexian regiments set up base just outside your doorstep either, I think you would support that until your death? Am I right?
I guess it's OK to be a hypocrit as long as you are not called on it...
With such a brilliant move of logic, you practically excluded yourself from any reasonable form of debate and added fire to the stereotyping. Great job!
Looking at the various newschannels here in the US, CNN, MSNBC and FOX and all the local newsstations, there is not a day going by without some mugshot beeing shown on TV of a sexoffender who has not registered. Ratings, anyone?
Not to mention how they salivate over all the women who has been caught with their hands on the joystick, so to speak. And I find myself drawn to the crap. I usually watch the Abrams Report and Dan Abrams is a dog when it comes to these cases. Sometimes it's better to watch the "Gayest Sheriff in USA" on Spike's World's Most Amazing Police Videos. I have never seen anyone trying to act as though as this guy, but he looks like he would cry over a broken nail. The whole show is hillarious and even more so the commentary.
That is why I never have been on the New-Game-bandwagon.
I've always waited until I can get the gamers reviews and comments and when I find a game that I think I will enjoy, I get it cheap by buying second hand.
Well, that is all fine and dandy if you want to play 1337 on/.
I personally enjoy TV and have invested heavily to get a best possible experience.. DVR's changed my viewing habits to the point where the only TV I watch, are programs that I have recorded (except news and sports that is).
Skipping through commercials does the following:
- Save you time (Watched A Bridge Too Far and it contained almost 1 hour of commercials)
- Almost avoid interrupts in the show
- Advertisers will still get their message across. Even when skipping the commercials, I can still tell what the commercial is all about and from whom, so I don't think the effect of the commercial disappears, it's just that I don't have to watch the 99.999999% totally idiotic and completely false commercials.
I suggest "terror" attacks on the idiots that create TV commercials. They must be the most IQ challenged people found on the planet.
Table: In Oracle you can partition the data, I'm sure it would have been possible and hence the amount of data needed to back up each time would be minimized.
Frequency: With the right backup scheme, you would only back up changes since last backup, the amount of time should be a lot shorter than for the whole database.
Locations: So you need to keep synchronized databases on different physical locations? Oracle streams is designed for this purpose.
Not sure which version of Oracle you had, but your problems dont even break a sweat on my forehead. I solve more complicated Oracle issues on a daily basis. Inital setup is done from backups, rest is done via streams replication. No need to shut down to replicate.
You are running a production system and haven't even tried to restore the backups you take in order to verify that you can get your company's data back when disaster happens? geezzz...
Talk about doing your job with your resignation filled out and signed. It's just the date that is missing!
I believe you meant to say "I HAD a working model...". Because if you HAVE a working model it can't be stranded in a different galaxy, but the one you had, before it became stranded......
Not true. When the H1-B expires, you do not get "deported" but you get 90 days to leave the country. If, after those 90 days, you are apprehended inside USA, you MAY be deported, depending on what country you come from.
But rather than deport H1-B workers, who mostly have education and knowledge, I'd like to see a program for deporting people like you.
I think Apple must have installed some form of esoteric (alien technology maybe?) into their products. That got to be the only explanation for their users to praise the company for behaviour that would have caused flamewars of vi vs emacs size if done by anyone else. Amazing!
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Well, the installation documentation states a specific version of JRE and that is NOT the latest version.
The leazt you could have done, was to follow the installation prerequisites in the installation guide. When you don't, you do get problems.
Toy-OS - Windows... Well, why don't you tell me how to trace a process under Windows with a tool like strace or truss or glance? Which tool do I use to list all open files under Windows? How can I trace a certain thread under Windows?
The problem is that Windows has zero tools useable for diagnostic of problems and for tracing. It is the most horrible OS to use and the wast majority oif stupid issues in regards to Oracle originates in the Windows world. The difference between support issues on UNIX and Windows is amazing. Many issues under Windows is due to people who think installing Oracle is like installing any other program and that you don't need to read anything nor do you have to follow instructions. This is the biggest problem with Windows, i.e the people who use it.
During the creation of a database, you have the opportunity (in the installer really) to configure the SGA. The default value is meant to be good enough for a starter database with several users and not for a single desktop PC. That is not the target and if you don't know how to configure an Oracle database, then you should really get some training because it is wastly more complex than antyhing else you have touched. If you just laugh ar this, you will have problems with an Oracle installation. It does require quite a bit of knowledge in order to work with it. And yes, it requires a lot more resources than anything else you have used too, the documentation clearly states what the minimum requirements are for a server running oracle, but again, you seem to ignore these facts.
Very interesting issue, since I have never seen a similar install issue and I have worked with installation issues for over 10 years.
The problem could have easily been diagnosed if you had used a real OS and not a toy OS like Windows. I take it that you checked which process were hogging CPU and since it was the installer, I'm 100% sure that your problem was with the version of JRE installed on your machine. It would have been nice to have an RDA (Remote Diagnostic Agent) output from your machine since the problem is on your side and not on Oracle's.
What is more interesting is that you show a total lack of knowledge about oracle. 400MB is easy to reduce on a single user database, but yes this is a much more resource needy system than your average editor or browser, but then again, Oracle database is probably the most complex piece of software available on the market. So yes, it will use a lot of resources and it is not intended as a single user database. Use Express or some other slimmed down database or learn how to configure it, take a 5 day DBA class. Without it, you can just as well deinstall it or hire someone who knows it.
Personally, I have worked with all versions since 4 and we are now on 10.2.0.2, that means I have about 20 years experience with Oracle.
I ran 7.3.2 of SCO Unix version of oracle under Linux back in 97.
There were internal version of the database running natively under Linux long before it was released.
10gR1 is available on OS/390 and works very well and include all the same features as any other platform.
OS/400 is a different beast and very different from z/OS (OS/390) and UNIX/LINUX world and currently this market is very well covered by IBM and most AS/400 customers are fanatical IBM customers. Not a market that Oracle put much interest in, nor is there much money to be had in this market anymore.
Oracle's code consists of 2 parts, one general part which is identical on all supported platforms and one machine dependent part which is handled by each porting group once the general release is done on Linux. Depending on the platform, this can be a very daunting task with the result of later releases on certain platforms. It all depends on which tier your platform belongs to.
All I can say is that after living in USA for the past 10 years, is that USA is more fucked up than any other country I have visited or lived in and at the moment, the count is up to about 40 countries.
It is always Americans without any form of international experience who come with these allegations, and i begin to understand why and the reason why is not very pretty.
What is the difference between a two-party state and a one-party state?
Nothing...
Well, I disagree...
I would be happy to store the TV shows online away from my hard disk. Space I can use for something more useful.
Frankly, I don't care if the shows are stored locally here or online as long as I can pull it up and view it on the devices I like. If some of them needs special hardware due to copyrights, I'm fine with that. I couldn't care less if I can't store Friends or South Park for several years or make copies of it, I only watch the show once anyway.
If you want to own a movie or show, buy the DVDs. How difficult is that principle?
Exactly!
I let my knowledge do the talking, not my apperance. I don't need to look a special way to fit in. When that is said, I work for a company where dresscode for everyone outside parts of the company that deals face-to-face with customers, is whatever we want. Then again, my company rewards talent and intelligence and accepts that some of the talent can be rather odd and not suited for customer contact. And it has never done any drugtesting either, it would have had to fire 50-75% of the people in my LOB.
"Bit I say F' the Turks, they've made their bed"
I'm sure you wouldn't mind if some Mexian regiments set up base just outside your doorstep either, I think you would support that until your death? Am I right?
I guess it's OK to be a hypocrit as long as you are not called on it...
Saying that the government do not use Oracle is downright incorrect.
True... Until that mission critical system fails.
Why do you tell people to lie?
Talk about wallowing in stereotypes. I read whatever I find interesting, regardless of political and religious affiliation. Do you?
And if he wants to look at superior beeings, look to cockroaches, sharks and crocodiles. They have outlived almost every other spieces on the planet.
With such a brilliant move of logic, you practically excluded yourself from any reasonable form of debate and added fire to the stereotyping. Great job!
what are you really fighting over?
Looking at the various newschannels here in the US, CNN, MSNBC and FOX and all the local newsstations, there is not a day going by without some mugshot beeing shown on TV of a sexoffender who has not registered. Ratings, anyone?
Not to mention how they salivate over all the women who has been caught with their hands on the joystick, so to speak. And I find myself drawn to the crap. I usually watch the Abrams Report and Dan Abrams is a dog when it comes to these cases. Sometimes it's better to watch the "Gayest Sheriff in USA" on Spike's World's Most Amazing Police Videos. I have never seen anyone trying to act as though as this guy, but he looks like he would cry over a broken nail. The whole show is hillarious and even more so the commentary.
That is why I never have been on the New-Game-bandwagon.
I've always waited until I can get the gamers reviews and comments and when I find a game that I think I will enjoy, I get it cheap by buying second hand.
Well, that is all fine and dandy if you want to play 1337 on /.
I personally enjoy TV and have invested heavily to get a best possible experience.. DVR's changed my viewing habits to the point where the only TV I watch, are programs that I have recorded (except news and sports that is).
Skipping through commercials does the following:
- Save you time (Watched A Bridge Too Far and it contained almost 1 hour of commercials)
- Almost avoid interrupts in the show
- Advertisers will still get their message across. Even when skipping the commercials, I can still tell what the commercial is all about and from whom, so I don't think the effect of the commercial disappears, it's just that I don't have to watch the 99.999999% totally idiotic and completely false commercials.
I suggest "terror" attacks on the idiots that create TV commercials. They must be the most IQ challenged people found on the planet.
Table: In Oracle you can partition the data, I'm sure it would have been possible and hence the amount of data needed to back up each time would be minimized.
Frequency: With the right backup scheme, you would only back up changes since last backup, the amount of time should be a lot shorter than for the whole database.
Locations: So you need to keep synchronized databases on different physical locations? Oracle streams is designed for this purpose.
Not sure which version of Oracle you had, but your problems dont even break a sweat on my forehead. I solve more complicated Oracle issues on a daily basis. Inital setup is done from backups, rest is done via streams replication. No need to shut down to replicate.
What exactly are your backup needs? Volume? Frequency? Locations?
You are running a production system and haven't even tried to restore the backups you take in order to verify that you can get your company's data back when disaster happens? geezzz...
Talk about doing your job with your resignation filled out and signed. It's just the date that is missing!
Ahhh... The wonders of the English Language.
I believe you meant to say "I HAD a working model...". Because if you HAVE a working model it can't be stranded in a different galaxy, but the one you had, before it became stranded......
Not true. When the H1-B expires, you do not get "deported" but you get 90 days to leave the country. If, after those 90 days, you are apprehended inside USA, you MAY be deported, depending on what country you come from.
But rather than deport H1-B workers, who mostly have education and knowledge, I'd like to see a program for deporting people like you.
What's happened to the world?
I think Apple must have installed some form of esoteric (alien technology maybe?) into their products. That got to be the only explanation for their users to praise the company for behaviour that would have caused flamewars of vi vs emacs size if done by anyone else. Amazing!