Just because they are scared shitless at the thought that something like this is not macho enough doesn't make it anymore ok to bash gay people. Disclaimer: I'm not gay, but don't like people calling things 'gay' because they don't like it or in order to be considered cool.
By Norwegian Copyright Laws, you have the RIGHT to make backup copies of your legally purchased stuff. This is, as you said, substanially different from many countries copyright laws.
Personally, I think it is only fair to have a law to protect your rights in this area. I'm only protecting my investments. By storing originals off-site, i.e bank-vault, I can restore my huge CD collection after let's say a fire or water damage since I only use the copies at home.
Geeee.... What do you know? Coffee is HOT!
So, who are you going to sue if you spill hot coffee over your lap from the coffee you made on the drip-brewer? The makers of the brewer?
The whole McDonald and hot coffee trial should have been thrown out of court and the lady should have heard the following words from the Judge: "Ms. Hot coffee is hot! If you spill it, you will get burned. How is that McDonalds (or anyonbe else but you's) fault? Case dismissed!"
The court also said that the limitations printed on each DVD was not legal and that they looked more like a private law addendum that severly limited your legal rights according to Norwegian Copyright laws. It also said there is a huge difference between copying a relatively brittle media like a CD compared to a more durable media like a book. The law gives you a clear and unstoppable right to make private backup copies and an encryption or copy protection schema is directly hindering you in executing your legal rights, hence Jon was aquitted.
That is because these companies are in USA. Other countries have laws and regulations as to what you can say in a commercial. And 'fine print' at the bottom of the screen that lasts for 0.01 seconds is not allowed either.
Quite frankly, I find most of the US advertising to be disgusting and very dishonest. Look at car commercials with 0% APR, and 0% APR is only available to a few select, but the commercial says nothing about this. Most advertising is faulty and full of lies that the advertiser can not follow up on.
Yes, it has the ebuilds, but they need to be used by the emerge program or ebuild program. They can't be executed alone, i.e they are not shell scripts. They are basically instructions on how to configure the package, which tarballs to download from where and what pre and post requisuites. Those are all protected by md5 sums.
As a Gentoo user and moderator at the forums, I have never seen any serious users of Gentoo take that attitude, quite the opposite actually. Any server can be vulnerable to attacks, no matter what system is run. There will always be ways of gaining access after an exploit has been discovered until it gets patched. It doesn't matter what the name of the OS is.
Again another illeterate US citizen talking as if the rest of the world uses the horrible US judicial system
Not every country uses a jury system and has a courtroom that looks like farce rather than a judicial process.
The problem you see is not a problem in this case. First and foremost, the initial trial was NOT with a jury. This appeals trial is also without a jury, but a panel of judges. 1 judical judge and 2 expert judges, one suggested from either side. This appeal is brought forward by Norways professional prosecutors, not elected with a private agenda. The Judicial judge is a profiessional judge, not an elected judge with an agenda.
Over all, the judicial system is more fair to the average Joe in Norway than in the US. Besides, you don't even have to pay for your own defence, another plus since you don't have to be rich to fight in court. Also, in a civil lawsuite, you can never be awarded the amounts given in US courts. The max amount typically would be in the area of max $1 million. In this case, it would probably be a symbolic amount, probably around $10.000 tops. But, the case here is not about money, it is a criminal trial.
In the criminal case, he is looking at 6 months in prison at most. The longest sentence under Norwegian law, life, is actually 21 years.
Basically because in Norway, an appeal will not set youy back several millions. In fact, if you can't pay, you can still hire a top notch lawyer and the bill will be footed by the state.
It's only in USA (where I currently live) that you have to be extremly rich in order to endure a long judical process. Btw, USA have politically elected judges and DA's, that makes me sick to my stomach to think about. A political justice system is on the same line as the old Soviet Union. Poltics before justice!
The biggest problem with you all is that you only look at US of A. Take a look around the world at countries where gun ownership is uncommon and look at the number of gun related crimes. That is all it takes to be anti-gun oriented.
Also think about us who had to surf BBS'es in other countries using International calls. Can you say expensive? LOL! Thank god for a large company with unlimited international calls:)
My first experience was with acoustic couplers, placing the phone handset into the suction cups after calling on a rotary dial and receiving the 'noise'! ahhh good old days... Did I say Good? By golly, I don't even wanna think about it! These days I get a 2 CD set of the latest moives in a couple of hours:) Naahhh, don't wanna go back to acoustic couplers!
You don't want to mess too much with mercury, it has some nasty effects on people. A lot of strange problems have gone away when people have changed from mercury based fillings to other materials. Do some googling on the topic and you'll be amazed!
The service is all fine and dandy, but it is useless if the program you have a problem with is an interactive program. This can only handle programs with parameters and where the parameters causes the problem. That is probably the cause of failure in 0.00001% of all programs.
Well, as I have said for years (and to deaf ears in the community), Apple is just as bad as any other major corporation in the software business.
Let's do an experiment!
Substitute Apple with Microsoft and we'll see how many people would be screaming then!. Just because the company is called Apple and is viewed as something like a saint in the community, people go out on a limb to make up excuses for them. Wake up! Just because theire boxes are considered sexy, doesn't make them A-OK. I will never ever own a product from such a monopolistic company as Apple.
Well, I'm not in the bay area, but in another US location. And it is not easy to get Americans who have the right knowledge and experience level in some areas, mione is one of them. It was not a troll, but the truth and I understand you may have a problem with it, but get over it.
I'm not an Indian, and I work in the US on an L1 visa and my salary is not worse than my american coworkers, rather the contrary.
As an L1 worker in Oracle, I can only say that I earn the same as my american coworkers and not less. Since this is/., I can not expect people to actually know what they are talking about.
It's not about money, but knowledge. Since they can't find people with the required knwoledge in the US, they have to find it somewhere else.
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And why is it gay?
Just because they are scared shitless at the thought that something like this is not macho enough doesn't make it anymore ok to bash gay people. Disclaimer: I'm not gay, but don't like people calling things 'gay' because they don't like it or in order to be considered cool.
Well, at least Bollywood has made ONE movie with a different plot. That's more than you can say about Hollywood!
Personally, I think it is too much violence in US movies and too little sex and nudity. While sex and nudity is normal, killing other people is not!
Want to see a great movie that includes both, check out a French moive called "Baise Moi!"
By Norwegian Copyright Laws, you have the RIGHT to make backup copies of your legally purchased stuff. This is, as you said, substanially different from many countries copyright laws.
Personally, I think it is only fair to have a law to protect your rights in this area. I'm only protecting my investments. By storing originals off-site, i.e bank-vault, I can restore my huge CD collection after let's say a fire or water damage since I only use the copies at home.
Geeee.... What do you know? Coffee is HOT!
So, who are you going to sue if you spill hot coffee over your lap from the coffee you made on the drip-brewer? The makers of the brewer?
The whole McDonald and hot coffee trial should have been thrown out of court and the lady should have heard the following words from the Judge: "Ms. Hot coffee is hot! If you spill it, you will get burned. How is that McDonalds (or anyonbe else but you's) fault? Case dismissed!"
The court also said that the limitations printed on each DVD was not legal and that they looked more like a private law addendum that severly limited your legal rights according to Norwegian Copyright laws. It also said there is a huge difference between copying a relatively brittle media like a CD compared to a more durable media like a book. The law gives you a clear and unstoppable right to make private backup copies and an encryption or copy protection schema is directly hindering you in executing your legal rights, hence Jon was aquitted.
Internet owned by AOL????????
That's about the funniest thing I have ever read. There is no doubt in my mind that you are a 100% real AOL'er. You comments shows that clearly! Yuck!
That is because these companies are in USA. Other countries have laws and regulations as to what you can say in a commercial. And 'fine print' at the bottom of the screen that lasts for 0.01 seconds is not allowed either.
Quite frankly, I find most of the US advertising to be disgusting and very dishonest. Look at car commercials with 0% APR, and 0% APR is only available to a few select, but the commercial says nothing about this. Most advertising is faulty and full of lies that the advertiser can not follow up on.
LOLOL. I got moderated "-1 Overrated" for pointing out that goatse is not pretty :) ROFLAMAO!
After looking at goatse once, I already believe we have some aliens and they are not pretty!
You just need to be faster than the speed of light in order to read the webpage. Slashdotting seems to defy all laws of physics!
Yes, it has the ebuilds, but they need to be used by the emerge program or ebuild program. They can't be executed alone, i.e they are not shell scripts. They are basically instructions on how to configure the package, which tarballs to download from where and what pre and post requisuites. Those are all protected by md5 sums.
Not really!
You see, there is a difference between an rsync server and a distfile server. They are not the same, hence your scenario is not a problem.
Was there ever anyone saying that?
As a Gentoo user and moderator at the forums, I have never seen any serious users of Gentoo take that attitude, quite the opposite actually. Any server can be vulnerable to attacks, no matter what system is run. There will always be ways of gaining access after an exploit has been discovered until it gets patched. It doesn't matter what the name of the OS is.
Again another illeterate US citizen talking as if the rest of the world uses the horrible US judicial system
Not every country uses a jury system and has a courtroom that looks like farce rather than a judicial process.
The problem you see is not a problem in this case. First and foremost, the initial trial was NOT with a jury. This appeals trial is also without a jury, but a panel of judges. 1 judical judge and 2 expert judges, one suggested from either side. This appeal is brought forward by Norways professional prosecutors, not elected with a private agenda. The Judicial judge is a profiessional judge, not an elected judge with an agenda.
Over all, the judicial system is more fair to the average Joe in Norway than in the US. Besides, you don't even have to pay for your own defence, another plus since you don't have to be rich to fight in court. Also, in a civil lawsuite, you can never be awarded the amounts given in US courts. The max amount typically would be in the area of max $1 million. In this case, it would probably be a symbolic amount, probably around $10.000 tops. But, the case here is not about money, it is a criminal trial.
In the criminal case, he is looking at 6 months in prison at most. The longest sentence under Norwegian law, life, is actually 21 years.
Basically because in Norway, an appeal will not set youy back several millions. In fact, if you can't pay, you can still hire a top notch lawyer and the bill will be footed by the state.
It's only in USA (where I currently live) that you have to be extremly rich in order to endure a long judical process. Btw, USA have politically elected judges and DA's, that makes me sick to my stomach to think about. A political justice system is on the same line as the old Soviet Union. Poltics before justice!
You can do this today!
It's called Japanese Tentacle Pr0n Anime!
The biggest problem with you all is that you only look at US of A. Take a look around the world at countries where gun ownership is uncommon and look at the number of gun related crimes. That is all it takes to be anti-gun oriented.
I guess the BBS didn't offer ZModem transfer?
:)
:) Naahhh, don't wanna go back to acoustic couplers!
Also think about us who had to surf BBS'es in other countries using International calls. Can you say expensive? LOL! Thank god for a large company with unlimited international calls
My first experience was with acoustic couplers, placing the phone handset into the suction cups after calling on a rotary dial and receiving the 'noise'! ahhh good old days... Did I say Good? By golly, I don't even wanna think about it! These days I get a 2 CD set of the latest moives in a couple of hours
I guess that is why you are a former chemist!
You don't want to mess too much with mercury, it has some nasty effects on people. A lot of strange problems have gone away when people have changed from mercury based fillings to other materials. Do some googling on the topic and you'll be amazed!
The service is all fine and dandy, but it is useless if the program you have a problem with is an interactive program. This can only handle programs with parameters and where the parameters causes the problem. That is probably the cause of failure in 0.00001% of all programs.
Well, as I have said for years (and to deaf ears in the community), Apple is just as bad as any other major corporation in the software business.
Let's do an experiment!
Substitute Apple with Microsoft and we'll see how many people would be screaming then!. Just because the company is called Apple and is viewed as something like a saint in the community, people go out on a limb to make up excuses for them. Wake up! Just because theire boxes are considered sexy, doesn't make them A-OK. I will never ever own a product from such a monopolistic company as Apple.
It was called just CP/M.
When they introduced the 16-bit version, it was called CP/M-86.
I still have my old Osborne-1 around with a CP/M diskette.
Well, I'm not in the bay area, but in another US location. And it is not easy to get Americans who have the right knowledge and experience level in some areas, mione is one of them. It was not a troll, but the truth and I understand you may have a problem with it, but get over it.
I'm not an Indian, and I work in the US on an L1 visa and my salary is not worse than my american coworkers, rather the contrary.
As an L1 worker in Oracle, I can only say that I earn the same as my american coworkers and not less. Since this is /., I can not expect people to actually know what they are talking about.
It's not about money, but knowledge. Since they can't find people with the required knwoledge in the US, they have to find it somewhere else.
More than a few hundred suckers if you ask me!