Great. So what. They have different points of view. How incredibly incomprehensibly horrible!!!11!1one1 ^^
Grow up please. People with different opinions are just as useful, and often even more useful, than those who agree with you. And I think both Tanenbaum and Torvalds probably know that.
If you listen to others, you can agree, and learn, or disagree, and learn. But if you never listen, you can never learn from others.:)
Unix support is a straw-man argument of yours. Back in the days, this was irrelevant. Everybody used his own code-page. If you want to raise the bar, and expect Unicode (and full-color, and a browser, and multimedia, and whatnot), then you have to expect it to use more resources, to be on the same level as Aimga DOS again.
How about a CD? You can put a whole Linux desktop with everything you need, on a single CD. Or use a 120 MB mini-CD, and limit yourself to the basics. The both would absolutely have Unicode support, while having the same code-compactness. Even a 2.88 MB floppy could do most of Unicode.
If you want *more* than what eg. Amiga DOS did fit onto one disk, you have to allow it to use *more* space too.:)
This is no troll. Linus said himself, that his biggest error with Linux was, that he made it monolithic. I agree on that. Modularity (in multiple dimensions too, think "aspects") is nearly always a good thing. Sure it takes a bit of the speed out. But it is well worth it.
I second that. There are actual sensor-networks out there, that are made out of many many little nodes, that are so robust, that you can spread them with an airplane, and leave them there for months or more. They self-network, and send you their data back, when you fly over them again. If this does not impress you, then I don't know what will.
That was my thought too. If you want to do it right, why not program it in Haskell in the first place. Sure, it might be a little bit slower (not even much actually). But if you go for security, that's not that important anyways.
Now how they will solve the PEBKAC problem, if they end up with a TCPA-like system (in the original intended way of protecting the user, not protecting from the user) and what they will do against tricks like remotely reading computer input, the inevitability of programming errors and bios virii, is a completely different question.
What's the stuff that makes the most money? Ask a TV producer. Or a rapper. ^^ It's the stuff that's most controversial. It stirs up the most dust.
Of course, you have to be sure of your own values, to produce something like that. Know yourself, what's right and wrong. And stand by that. But then, the controversial stuff, when well executed (very important), makes the best stuff.
Books, movies, music, games... does not matter. The following spectacle would be enough to sell 10 games on it's tide wave.
Well, it's their decision. More sales for the rest of us, I guess. ^^
Do you think they will always cost that much and hold that much? Do you think one of those factors will change? Do you think the factors will change faster than the factors for magnetic data? Do you know how fast these factors change?
If they change faster, then some time in the future, they will outpace magnetic storage. I think they always have one advantage: You can always store more on the same place, when you do it holographic. So I can't imagine them not winning over other storage methods.
As long as research is not stopped by some short-sighted engineers like you.:P "Leaving research exclusively in the hands of engineers, we would have perfectly functioning oil lamps, but no electricity." -- Albert Einstein ^^
Well, I think this is the very point why division by zero should be possible. Because there isn't only one infinite. It's more like a complex number, with some kind of temporal component in in. That way, you could always get your numbers back from infinite.
I think math should always include timing / sequencing. That way, that whole problem would be gone.
Oh my. Just imagine you forget to click on one of those "I'm still alive" links, or you're having a false positive in your spam filter. In my case, I would lose everything in my life, as soon as those e-mails were out. I could hang myself right after it. Oh... wait....
So you rather want it to go to some non-science-related waste of money?
If everything as a money-waste anyway, then at least it should be money wasted on cool stuff like interstellar space ships, orbital particle accelerators, exawatt z-machines, moons out of computers to simulate an AI, e.t.c. ^^
The good thing is: The music industry is actually not that giant business with loads of cash, that we all imagine. They are actually a very small industry. With only 1.4 billions a year (for the USA), and a falling rate of 12%, it's only a question of time. They have a huge personal burn-rate too, because of their excessive lifestyle. (The stories about hookers and blow are real. I saw it with my own eyes. Big deals usually involve both of them.) And from the cash they have, they burn even more for tons of expensive lawyers, briberies, etc.
This can't go well (for them) for long. Especially since they fight the harder, burning the more money, the worse they are off. I think they drown fast in that self-made vortex. ^^
Oh, I'm sorry. Of course I meant "Everything people do, they do because someone has someone has something to gain from it."... I think. I'm so tired I can't think straight anymore. So I better stop commenting, and go to bed.:)
Wrong. You have to think of it as decentralized replication
Twitter - Jabber multicasting Facebook - Everyone has their own tiny profile server running. Google - Google, but as an application, that anyone can install where he wants. WoW - WoW, but without a central server. Rather people opening their own servers, and the syncing running like in IRC. StumbleUpon - Don't know why anyone would need that thing, so I can't comment on it. Wikipedia - Also running on that server, that the profile is served with. Maybe also synced like IRC.
You see, this is actually pretty straightforward, and one can see the benefits. Additionally, except maybe with WoW, there's nothing stopping you from implementing it right now.
Well, in my dictionary, "enforcing" is the opposite of "trusting".
This smells like those 15 year old girls, who don't know what boy to trust, and which one to open their hearts for. Some time in our life, we learn, that it's not black and white, but that trust is an individual and relative thing, and not binary, but a continuum. Would you use software as a service, if your girlfriend were the one offering the service? How about a Haliburton / Chinese government joint-venture? ^^
Where did you get the idea that this has anything to do with catching the bay guys? ^^ And why do people always equate politicians not doing what you expected with them being stupid? I don't think they are stupid. It just looks that way, because their actions are so completely counterproductive of what they say are their goals. Well, every person that has lived trough the change in tone before and after an election, should know not to believe one word of that.;)
So... if they are lying, and if they are not stupid, then why do they do this? Simple: Everything people do, because someone has someone has something to gain from it. Find that one, and you got your reason.
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Great. So what. They have different points of view.
How incredibly incomprehensibly horrible!!!11!1one1 ^^
Grow up please.
People with different opinions are just as useful, and often even more useful, than those who agree with you. And I think both Tanenbaum and Torvalds probably know that.
If you listen to others, you can agree, and learn, or disagree, and learn. But if you never listen, you can never learn from others. :)
Unix support is a straw-man argument of yours. Back in the days, this was irrelevant. Everybody used his own code-page.
If you want to raise the bar, and expect Unicode (and full-color, and a browser, and multimedia, and whatnot), then you have to expect it to use more resources, to be on the same level as Aimga DOS again.
How about a CD? You can put a whole Linux desktop with everything you need, on a single CD.
Or use a 120 MB mini-CD, and limit yourself to the basics.
The both would absolutely have Unicode support, while having the same code-compactness.
Even a 2.88 MB floppy could do most of Unicode.
If you want *more* than what eg. Amiga DOS did fit onto one disk, you have to allow it to use *more* space too. :)
This is no troll. Linus said himself, that his biggest error with Linux was, that he made it monolithic.
I agree on that. Modularity (in multiple dimensions too, think "aspects") is nearly always a good thing.
Sure it takes a bit of the speed out. But it is well worth it.
I second that. There are actual sensor-networks out there, that are made out of many many little nodes, that are so robust, that you can spread them with an airplane, and leave them there for months or more. They self-network, and send you their data back, when you fly over them again. If this does not impress you, then I don't know what will.
That was my thought too. If you want to do it right, why not program it in Haskell in the first place. Sure, it might be a little bit slower (not even much actually). But if you go for security, that's not that important anyways.
Now how they will solve the PEBKAC problem, if they end up with a TCPA-like system (in the original intended way of protecting the user, not protecting from the user) and what they will do against tricks like remotely reading computer input, the inevitability of programming errors and bios virii, is a completely different question.
...so Microsoft creates a device that runs Linux??
Wait, let me check the temperature...
Yours sincerely,
The Devil
Hey, my dad was forced to "play" exactly this, for his whole youth, lost, and got probably tortured in Russian jail, you insensitive clod!
What's the stuff that makes the most money? Ask a TV producer. Or a rapper. ^^
It's the stuff that's most controversial. It stirs up the most dust.
Of course, you have to be sure of your own values, to produce something like that. Know yourself, what's right and wrong. And stand by that.
But then, the controversial stuff, when well executed (very important), makes the best stuff.
Books, movies, music, games... does not matter.
The following spectacle would be enough to sell 10 games on it's tide wave.
Well, it's their decision. More sales for the rest of us, I guess. ^^
Please, for FSM's sake, think one step ahead!
Do you think they will always cost that much and hold that much?
Do you think one of those factors will change?
Do you think the factors will change faster than the factors for magnetic data?
Do you know how fast these factors change?
If they change faster, then some time in the future, they will outpace magnetic storage.
I think they always have one advantage: You can always store more on the same place, when you do it holographic.
So I can't imagine them not winning over other storage methods.
As long as research is not stopped by some short-sighted engineers like you. :P
"Leaving research exclusively in the hands of engineers, we would have perfectly functioning oil lamps, but no electricity." -- Albert Einstein ^^
Well, I think this is the very point why division by zero should be possible. Because there isn't only one infinite. It's more like a complex number, with some kind of temporal component in in. That way, you could always get your numbers back from infinite.
I think math should always include timing / sequencing. That way, that whole problem would be gone.
Oh my. Just imagine you forget to click on one of those "I'm still alive" links, or you're having a false positive in your spam filter.
In my case, I would lose everything in my life, as soon as those e-mails were out. I could hang myself right after it.
Oh... wait....
So you rather want it to go to some non-science-related waste of money?
If everything as a money-waste anyway, then at least it should be money wasted on cool stuff like interstellar space ships, orbital particle accelerators, exawatt z-machines, moons out of computers to simulate an AI, e.t.c. ^^
Bigger effectiveness.
Although Bose always was, is, and always will be expensive crap posing as hi-fi. Not worth the money. Goes well with Monster cables.
The good thing is: The music industry is actually not that giant business with loads of cash, that we all imagine.
They are actually a very small industry. With only 1.4 billions a year (for the USA), and a falling rate of 12%, it's only a question of time.
They have a huge personal burn-rate too, because of their excessive lifestyle. (The stories about hookers and blow are real. I saw it with my own eyes. Big deals usually involve both of them.)
And from the cash they have, they burn even more for tons of expensive lawyers, briberies, etc.
This can't go well (for them) for long.
Especially since they fight the harder, burning the more money, the worse they are off.
I think they drown fast in that self-made vortex. ^^
Except?? That is the best thing of all! :P
"IBM Computer Program To Take On 'Jeopardyl'"
and thought:
Woah, a big iron machine fighting a dangerous dinosaur? I have to see that!
In fact, you need one. Your brain. But only that one. It can all be in your head. :)
Oh, I'm sorry. Of course I meant "Everything people do, they do because someone has someone has something to gain from it."... I think. :)
I'm so tired I can't think straight anymore. So I better stop commenting, and go to bed.
Wrong. You have to think of it as decentralized replication
Twitter - Jabber multicasting
Facebook - Everyone has their own tiny profile server running.
Google - Google, but as an application, that anyone can install where he wants.
WoW - WoW, but without a central server. Rather people opening their own servers, and the syncing running like in IRC.
StumbleUpon - Don't know why anyone would need that thing, so I can't comment on it.
Wikipedia - Also running on that server, that the profile is served with. Maybe also synced like IRC.
You see, this is actually pretty straightforward, and one can see the benefits.
Additionally, except maybe with WoW, there's nothing stopping you from implementing it right now.
Well, in my dictionary, "enforcing" is the opposite of "trusting".
This smells like those 15 year old girls, who don't know what boy to trust, and which one to open their hearts for.
Some time in our life, we learn, that it's not black and white, but that trust is an individual and relative thing, and not binary, but a continuum.
Would you use software as a service, if your girlfriend were the one offering the service?
How about a Haliburton / Chinese government joint-venture? ^^
Eeewww... But some all-natural European babes... I'd like a piece of *that* :)
Now if they are lawyers too... *head explodes*
Where did you get the idea that this has anything to do with catching the bay guys? ^^ ;)
And why do people always equate politicians not doing what you expected with them being stupid?
I don't think they are stupid. It just looks that way, because their actions are so completely counterproductive of what they say are their goals.
Well, every person that has lived trough the change in tone before and after an election, should know not to believe one word of that.
So... if they are lying, and if they are not stupid, then why do they do this?
Simple: Everything people do, because someone has someone has something to gain from it.
Find that one, and you got your reason.
But I guess we all knew this before. :)
He said *ground breaking ideas*.
Not making cash off the ideas of others, Microsoft style!
Well, you could attach them sideways. If you know what I mean.
Would need re-heeally thin and long slot-like connectors on the computer though. ^^
With a pressing mold of course. Right after birth. So it doesn't become a pig.