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IBM Computer Program To Take On 'Jeopardy!'

longacre writes "I.B.M. plans to announce Monday that it is in the final stages of completing a computer program to compete against human 'Jeopardy!' contestants. If the program beats the humans, the field of artificial intelligence will have made a leap forward. ... The team is aiming not at a true thinking machine but at a new class of software that can 'understand' human questions and respond to them correctly. Such a program would have enormous economic implications. ... The proposed contest is an effort by I.B.M. to prove that its researchers can make significant technical progress by picking "grand challenges" like its early chess foray. The new bid is based on three years of work by a team that has grown to 20 experts in fields like natural language processing, machine learning and information retrieval. ... Under the rules of the match that the company has negotiated with the 'Jeopardy!' producers, the computer will not have to emulate all human qualities. It will receive questions as electronic text. The human contestants will both see the text of each question and hear it spoken by the show's host, Alex Trebek. ... Mr. Friedman added that they were also thinking about whom the human contestants should be and were considering inviting Ken Jennings, the 'Jeopardy!' contestant who won 74 consecutive times and collected $2.52 million in 2004."

213 comments

  1. Great... more phone-bots by plasmacutter · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why employ real people when you can annoy the hell out of everyone who calls in by subjecting them to yet another tier of phone-bots.

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    1. Re:Great... more phone-bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why employ real people when you can annoy the hell out of everyone who calls in by subjecting them to yet another tier of phone-bots.

      Or reverse it:

      1) Use on telemarketers that call you.
      2) Record
      3) ...
      4) Profit

    2. Re:Great... more phone-bots by Argumentator · · Score: 1

      Or vise versa. Have intelligent answering machines, who understand the type of question the caller asks, and based on that decide whether to alert the human owner or tell them to screw off.

  2. The code name by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sources say the code-name for IBM's project is "Connery".

    Trebek : This nobleman is believed to have written many of Shakespeare's works.

    "Connery" : [pause] So that's your game, is it, Trebek? I was a coveted performer among the brothel ladies while you were still pissing your knee-pants, boy.

    Trebek : Can one of the IBM people fix the computer?

    "Connery" : Your mother's a whore. But don't feel badly, Trebek. She's not a very good one. Ha ha, ha ha!

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    1. Re:The code name by derGoldstein · · Score: 1

      He then proceeds to slap the women contestants...

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    2. Re:The code name by A.+B3ttik · · Score: 5, Funny

      IBM: I'll take Jap Anus Relations for $200.
      ...
      TREBEK: I'm sorry, that's "Japan US Relations." That's just awful and you know it.

    3. Re:The code name by T+Murphy · · Score: 1

      The computer only needs to alternate between two questions: "Ham and cheese on rye?" and "Do they make them for men?". Throw in the occasional "A trick question!" for completeness.

    4. Re:The code name by hedwards · · Score: 1

      I was wondering what happens if the computer gets cracked or otherwise modified.

      But then again, getting an advertisement for "low, low prices on hot teen pics" on jeopardy would be something of historical note.

    5. Re:The code name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Working at home has lots of benefits, one of which is Hulu access. I was in tears just reading your comment, never mind watching it again :) It's at 4:50 of this clip. http://www.hulu.com/watch/60457/saturday-night-live-celebrity-jeopardy-cosby-osbourne-connery

    6. Re:The code name by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      IBM: Well, the game is afoot. I'll take anal bum cover for 7,000.

      Alex Trebek: That's An album cover, not anal bum cover.

      IBM: I can read, Trebek. That says Anal bum cover. I've spent five years of my life trying to invent an anal bum cover, failing to do so is my greatest regret

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    7. Re:The code name by Henry+Pate · · Score: 2, Informative

      Alex Trebek: Yeah, it was a trick question, Mr. Connery. Why don't you pick a category?

      Sean Connery: I've got to ask you about the Penis Mightier.

      Alex Trebek: What? No. No, no, that is The Pen is Mightier.

      Sean Connery: Gussy it up however you want, Trebek. What matters is does it work? Will it really mighty my penis, man?

      Alex Trebek: It's not a product, Mr. Connery.

      Sean Connery: Because I've ordered devices like that before - wasted a pretty penny, I don't mind telling you. And if The Penis Mightier works, I'll order a dozen.

      Alex Trebek: It's not a Penis Mightier, Mr. Connery. There's no such thing!

      Nicholas Cage: Wait, wait, wait.. are you selling Penis Mightiers?

      Alex Trebek: No! No, I'm not.

      Sean Connery: Well, you're sitting on a gold mine, Trebek!

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    8. Re:The code name by dr_dank · · Score: 1

      Worse is if they turn on the Burt Reynolds module.

      IBM Bot> /nick Turd_Ferguson
      IBM Bot is now Turd_Ferguson

      Turd_Ferguson> Ding
      Alex> Burt?
      Turd_Ferguson> That's not my name.
      Alex> Okay... Turd Ferguson?
      Turd_Ferguson> Yeah, whaddya want?
      Alex> You buzzed in!
      Turd_Ferguson> No, I didn't.
      Alex> Yes, you did!
      Turd_Ferguson> That's your opinion.

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    9. Re:The code name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The code name is Watson.

    10. Re:The code name by daveime · · Score: 1

      Sorry, currently our video library can only be streamed from within the United States

      Anyone got a US proxy I can borrow ?

    11. Re:The code name by Binestar · · Score: 1

      IBM: I'll take Jap Anus Relations for $200. ... TREBEK: I'm sorry, that's "Japan US Relations." That's just awful and you know it.

      IBM: Oh, then I'll take "The Penis Mightier" for $200.

      TREBEK: That's "The Pen Is Mightier" Mr. IBM.

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  3. Leap Forward? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I.B.M. plans to announce Monday that it is in the final stages of completing a computer program to compete against human 'Jeopardy!' contestants. If the program beats the humans, the field of artificial intelligence will have made a leap forward.

    In what way would this be a leap forward? Looking up trivial facts in a database and spitting them out is easy, and not particularly significant...

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    1. Re:Leap Forward? by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      In what way would this be a leap forward?

      Exactly what I was thinking. It sounds like they plan to connect voice recognition software to Google.

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    2. Re:Leap Forward? by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was thinking. Googling for the answer would provide the question (heck, `I'm feeling lucky' would probably get you the correct response in the title of the returned page).

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    3. Re:Leap Forward? by DerekLyons · · Score: 4, Informative

      Parsing the questions in natural language, which is the goal here, is however very much *not* trivial. Doubly so since the clues and questions in a Jeopardy! game are usually at least somewhat obfuscated, contain puns, double entendres, etc...

    4. Re:Leap Forward? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Did you even read the summary?

      The leap forward is not in being able to look up facts in a database, it is in being able to interpret written questions properly.

      There's a lot involved in interpreting natural language, and so far computers have been a far cry from being able to do it well. It says something that these algorithms are being tested against Jeopardy answers, since those are not completely natural language either -- they've been screened and edited to remove ambiguity.

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    5. Re:Leap Forward? by Thelasko · · Score: 3, Funny

      Exactly what I was thinking.

      Jinx! You owe me a Coke.

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    6. Re:Leap Forward? by bheer · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to TFA, the machine will get its questions as machine-readable text. The other human contestants will get it as text and audio. Also, the machine will not be connected to the internet.

    7. Re:Leap Forward? by derGoldstein · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Doubly so since the clues and questions in a Jeopardy! game are usually at least somewhat obfuscated, contain puns, double entendres, etc...

      This is exactly why this sounds so implausible to me. You often have to take the category name and weave it in with the question (or rather, answer). A lot depends not on the knowledge, but on the phrasing of the "queries". Give me one example of translation software which can translate entire paragraphs well.

      It makes me wonder how much "stress testing" they've done, by taking old Jeopardy questions and seeing if the output would be considered "correct" by a human arbiter.

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    8. Re:Leap Forward? by Bandman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The step forward will be parsing the english language.

      I hope it remembers to phrase its answers in the form of a question.

    9. Re:Leap Forward? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      Both game playing and language processing are considered problems that full under the domain "AI."

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    10. Re:Leap Forward? by clickety6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Parsing the questions in natural language,

      Natural language?

      Outside of a Jeopardy! gameshow, I have never heard anybody use the this type of phrasing.

      "This is a reason for you not handing in your homework Johnny"

      "Why is because my dog ate it, sir"

      Yeah, sounds very natural :-)

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    11. Re:Leap Forward? by Bandman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's the sort of thing that makes me believe that this team may be able to succeed.

      When Deep Blue went up against Kasperov, who could it practice against? Nobody.

      There are tens of thousands of Jeopardy! questions to go through before they start making up their own.

    12. Re:Leap Forward? by Volante3192 · · Score: 1

      Rhyming categories, anagrams, the dreaded Before and After, slightly stupid answers, one letter off...

      There's loads of categories they come up with that don't just rely on trivia knowledge but how to interpret the question.

    13. Re:Leap Forward? by derGoldstein · · Score: 1

      You could have typed that up to a minute apart. We'll need to see the logs that include seconds in order to see if a coke is warranted.

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    14. Re:Leap Forward? by thrillseeker · · Score: 4, Funny

      In what way would this be a leap forward?

      Well, at least a computer program will bother to RTFA.

    15. Re:Leap Forward? by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      We'll need to see the logs that include seconds in order to see if a coke is warranted.

      Technically, my post was before Prof.Phreak since the commenting system posts comments chronologically. However, we don't know if they were a millisecond apart or 59 seconds apart.

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    16. Re:Leap Forward? by Comboman · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sorry, that response is not in the form of a question.

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    17. Re:Leap Forward? by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is exactly why this sounds so implausible to me. You often have to take the category name and weave it in with the question (or rather, answer). A lot depends not on the knowledge, but on the phrasing of the "queries". Give me one example of translation software which can translate entire paragraphs well.

      Sure! From my handy-dandy English-to-Tech Manual-to-English translator:

      According to precise how from unlikely sounding me hereto. Must needs question category name sewing needle rapprochement. Mucho lots of good knowling head phrases queryig well; show you macihine human texts swimmingly.

    18. Re:Leap Forward? by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      While I do agree this is a pretty difficult task, in a sense it will be easier for the computer. All of the questions are valid and parsable and correct for the answer. The computer won't get tripped up or chuckle to itself over the puns, etc. It'll just get to the answer.

    19. Re:Leap Forward? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God how I love the hilariously inept peanut gallery on Slashdot. Everything is "easy", so long as all you have to do is criticize it and not implement it. If it is as trivial as you claim, then why not start up a "Team Slashdot" to take IBM down a notch?

    20. Re:Leap Forward? by Paul+Fodor · · Score: 1

      The Jeopardy computer won't be connected to Internet. So, all they can access is the knowledge stored on the computer.

    21. Re:Leap Forward? by netsavior · · Score: 1

      actually rhyming is pretty easy, once yuo have the candidates for correct answer, soundex is common and actually very good. My application for address parsing and matching contains some logic for mispellings and rhyming and "sounds like" because people tend to jot down what they hear, I was shocked that it took like 30 minutes to add this functionality using Soundex from Apache Commons Codec...

      hell, you can SQL query with Soundex nowadays.

    22. Re:Leap Forward? by derGoldstein · · Score: 1

      It could have played against pretty much any chess player (apart, obviously, from kasperov). And it could have done it and determined who won for itself.

      You need a *human* to determine if the answer is correct in this case.

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    23. Re:Leap Forward? by dave420 · · Score: 1
    24. Re:Leap Forward? by msbmsb · · Score: 1

      I don't think current QA systems would be confused by that question, actually. In the simplest case of just keyword searching for the appropriate passage, the occurence of "author" with a type of town called "hamlet" will be far smaller than "author" with the play name "Hamlet". Not to mention some systems will pre-mark "Hamlet" as some category precluding a town (like "play"). This lack of co-occurrence also assists statistical methods when learning.

      The rhyming and puns will be the more difficult tasks to handle.

    25. Re:Leap Forward? by Rayban · · Score: 1

      *You* might not, but us 5-digiters do. Mwahahahahah.

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    26. Re:Leap Forward? by lelitsch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When Deep Blue went up against Kasperov, who could it practice against? Nobody.

      That this got modded Insightful is the best argument yet for adding tags to /.

    27. Re:Leap Forward? by damburger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Being able to beat a human at Jeapordy is a fairly substantial subset of the Turing test sorted.

      Natural language processing is an absolute and total bitch - take it someone who has studied it. One of my AI professors once explained it to me such; the human brain tricks you into believing the hardest tasks it accomplishes are the easiest. Stuff like language, walking, and so on take up far much more of your neural hardware than what you would consider 'thinking' - but it all happens subconsciously.

      No, it isn't Artificial Intelligence per se - there is no real 'understanging' or 'intelligence' behind it -but it is a very serious technical challenge. There is a lot more to it than simply dumping Jeopardy questions into a standard search engines.

      Don't take my word for it. Load up your favourite editor or IDE and start coding a simple chat bot. The difficulties that IBM must have overcome are best discovered through experience.

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    28. Re:Leap Forward? by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's the sort of thing that makes me believe that this team may be able to succeed.

      When Deep Blue went up against Kasperov, who could it practice against? Nobody.

      There are tens of thousands of Jeopardy! questions to go through before they start making up their own.

      Well it did practice against other grandmasters, and it analyzed every game Kasparov had every played, where Kasparov went into the match blind.

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    29. Re:Leap Forward? by damburger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yup. Natural language processing is a piece of piss until you actually *try* it. Along similar lines, I once heard an anecdote that computer vision was first attempted when it was given to a graduate student whilst all the professional researchers were busy with board games. It hadn't occurred to anybody it might be difficult.

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    30. Re:Leap Forward? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How could it player any chess player and yet not involve another human?

    31. Re:Leap Forward? by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

      I hope it remembers to phrase its answers in the form of a question.

      Trivial. Word 1 of the question is "WHO" if answer is a person else "WHAT". Word 2 is "ARE" if answer is plural else "IS". Parsing Mr. Trebek's "answer" in three seconds, as you pointed out, is the hard part.

    32. Re:Leap Forward? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if the computer program was reading Slashdot.

    33. Re:Leap Forward? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Computer: I'll take this has been done before in the 60s for $2000, Alex.

      Alex: And here's the clue: It makes little sense to parse English when this technique can be used instead, at a lower cost of development and higher success rate.

      Computer: What is anchoring the words "this/that" in the clue to obtain the "type" of the response (i.e "this author", "this composer", "this country"), and reply with the database entry with the highest correlation to other words in the clue.

      Alex: Correct. We'll be back after this messages.

      p.s. I'd like to see the computer solve one of the video daily doubles.

    34. Re:Leap Forward? by derGoldstein · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You don't need a human to determine who won a chess match. Winning is absolute.

      You need a human to judge if the answer to a question, its phrasing, and its context were correct.

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    35. Re:Leap Forward? by bami · · Score: 1

      I guess IBM only has one thing to do:
      Download the internet on their super-computer.

    36. Re:Leap Forward? by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Actually if the machine were able to do that via Google in a reliable way that would be something pretty substantial. I don't think that AI is good enough at that for Jeopardy at this time.

    37. Re:Leap Forward? by mverley · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was thinking.

      Jinx! You owe me a Coke.

      These are the laws of Jinx, and they are unflinchingly rigid!

    38. Re:Leap Forward? by grumbel · · Score: 1

      Looking up trivial facts in a database and spitting them out is easy, and not particularly significant...

      The significant part here is that the database queries will be in natural language instead of SQL and they will be kind of vague. Which is kind of a big deal, considering its one of those areas where pretty much all search engines these days fail at, i.e. you can't ask questions to Google and get an answer, instead you simply do full text search and get all pages matching, no matter if they have anything to do with your question or not.

    39. Re:Leap Forward? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      To get to the other side.
      Why did the chicken cross the road?

      When?
      Where?
      How?

      I'm sure there have been Jeopardy! "questions" that needed to be started with each of the interrogatives.

    40. Re:Leap Forward? by dontPanik · · Score: 1

      On the subject of anticipating the challenge when it happens, I wonder if the question writers for Jeopardy will write the questions any differently in anticipation of having a computer contestant.
      I know I would be tempted to give the computer a few curveballs!

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    41. Re:Leap Forward? by cheftw · · Score: 2, Funny

      *You* might not, but us 5-digiters do. Mwahahahahah.

      What is... be really old?

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    42. Re:Leap Forward? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Does Jeopardy! even care whether you use the right question word? If someone gave the question, "What is Napoleon Bonaparte?", would the answer qualify?

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    43. Re:Leap Forward? by DriedClexler · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What msbmsb said. Also, this sounds similar to the problem already tackled (and aced) by Google Sets (or whatever they call it now). That's the feature where you give it some members of a set you have in mind (but you don't tell it what it's a set *of*) and it outputs more members from that set. For example, you give it "apple, orange, banana", and it gives you "grape, strawberry, lime". I'm guessing the way Google sets works is:

      1) Run a search on all input phrases.
      2) Find the most common statistically-improbable phrase in all of the results.
      3) Run a search on the phrase derived in 2.
      4) Output the most common statisticall-improbable phrases found in three which were not given as inputs.

      In the example you gave, there will be more search results with "hamlet", "playwright", and "Shakespeare" than "hamlet", "playwright", and some other SIP.

      There are, of course, many other cases where it will get tripped up (like puns and rhyming), but that's not one of them.

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    44. Re:Leap Forward? by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

      I swear I've seen contestants answer questions like this as "What is 'Why did the chicken cross the road'?" The response to a jeopardy "answer" is always an answer token preceded by 'who (verb phrase)' or 'what (verb phrase)', even if the particular 'what' is a phrase beginning with a different interrogative. The whole answers/questions formalism has always been very strange...

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    45. Re:Leap Forward? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The new captcha?

      http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/23/2326218

    46. Re:Leap Forward? by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

      One of my AI professors once explained it to me such; the human brain tricks you into believing the hardest tasks it accomplishes are the easiest.

      My English professor once explained to me that the human brain tricks most people into believing that they understand English.

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    47. Re:Leap Forward? by damburger · · Score: 1

      I'm a computer scientist retraining as a physicist. Why the hell would I have to master the nuances of English?

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    48. Re:Leap Forward? by CorenFa · · Score: 1

      They are not concerned with the computer knowing the answer, they are concerned with the computer understanding the question. That's the real challenge with Jeopardy anyway, and would be a great indicator of progress in the field of artificial intelligence.

    49. Re:Leap Forward? by Sancho · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like they're guaranteed to win. The human contestants won't be given the questions at all :(

    50. Re:Leap Forward? by operagost · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have the internet on a single floppy! The diskette reads, "AOL 3.0".

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    51. Re:Leap Forward? by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 1

      Do it with Google in a reliable way, decide whether it would try and answer the question within 0.500000 seconds, and then parse the results into a sentence, prepend "who/what is/are" within ten seconds, and have the answer make sense?

      The one area where the machine has the human players beat is in reaction time. It can measure and respond to the "half second after Alex stops speaking" rule with much more precision than any human player could manage. It could even notice when it didn't successfully buzz in, and adjust it's reaction time to the timekeepers.

    52. Re:Leap Forward? by Paul+Fodor · · Score: 1

      > Download the internet on their super-computer.

      It is a question of how to organize that knowledge in a form to be fast to query, not to mention transforming natural language questions into queries, semantic search, score responses (and many other things that I don't know). Many of the Jeopardy clues are too hard to be solved by simple Google search because of different phrasing, words, semantics. And all this has to be done in matters of seconds!

    53. Re:Leap Forward? by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      Sometimes the "answers" are phrased so that it isn't immediately obvious what the object of the response is supposed to be. I hope they won't tailor the questions to accommodate the machine and minimize these although only a few show up in each show. If it can successfully parse the trick questions then something of merit will have been achieved. A lot of the "answers" depend on word play and obscure word association where an unlimited database of facts isn't going to be good enough to formulate a correct response. That is going to require a well designed reasoning algorithm. Again, if the machine can hold its own then something of merit will have been achieved.

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    54. Re:Leap Forward? by Anenome · · Score: 1

      "Natural language processing is an absolute and total bitch - take it someone who has studied it. One of my AI professors once explained it to me such; the human brain tricks you into believing the hardest tasks it accomplishes are the easiest. Stuff like language, walking, and so on take up far much more of your neural hardware than what you would consider 'thinking' - but it all happens subconsciously."

      - This isn't exactly true. It may be a 'total bitch' to duplicate within the framework of digital processors. For a neural net it's a fairly trivial task, and the human brain is far more like a neural net (obviously) than a CPU.

      On the other side of the equation, a computer can iterate and calculate as if it were a cinch, something the human brain finds rather difficult.

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    55. Re:Leap Forward? by home-electro.com · · Score: 1

      Me neither. With or without an internet connection. I think it is a monumental task and it will fail unless they hand pick the questions.

       

    56. Re:Leap Forward? by CobaltBlueDW · · Score: 1

      Jeopardy!'s obfuscation is fairly formulaic, plus each question tends to include extra information for specificity and clarification which only furthers the ease of the task.

      A bigger challenge would be to parse normal language, which isn't hand designed to evoke a known answer...

      There are already search engines that attempt to do this.

    57. Re:Leap Forward? by Gudeldar · · Score: 0

      Actually I've never seen Trebek rule an answer wrong for using the wrong word to start the question (which only matters in double Jeopardy anyway). I've heard players answer "What is [person's name]" and that was perfectly acceptable. So it is even more trivial, just put "What" in front of every answer.

    58. Re:Leap Forward? by Argumentator · · Score: 1

      Remember that the machine does not have to be 100% correct. Human contestants aren't either. The machine can lose the obfuscated/joke questions if it can make up for it in other questions. Furthermore, given a machine's godly reaction time as compared to humans, it can be programmed to only decide to answer questions that appear clear and simple to answer, since its highly likely to get first dibs on anything it chooses to try and answer.

    59. Re:Leap Forward? by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

      That's the sort of thing that makes me believe that this team may be able to succeed.

      When Deep Blue went up against Kasperov, who could it practice against? Nobody.

      There are tens of thousands of Jeopardy! questions to go through before they start making up their own.

      Well it did practice against other grandmasters, and it analyzed every game Kasparov had every played, where Kasparov went into the match blind.

      Indeed. And Kasparov insisted that in violation of the rules that the programmers tweaked Deep Blue during the match in a way that they were not allowed to do. IBM refused all of Kasparov's requests to see games Deep Blue played prior to the match (although Deep Blue's programmers had access to games that Kasparov played) and to see the computer's log files. Further, IBM dismantled Deep Blue when Kasparov asked for a rematch. How convenient.

      Having said the above, I do believe that computers are now superior to humans at playing chess and the only hope for a level playing field between humans and computers is to use Bobby Fischer's Random Chess proposal.

    60. Re:Leap Forward? by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      That happens very often, and I think I would probably 'answer' it that way too, even though it seems strange. Since "why did the chicken cross the road" is the 'answer' part, the "what is" is turning it into the single 'thing' that is being given as the answer. I'm not even sure if I've seen people answer it with just "Why did the chicken cross the road?"

      Of course the anwers/questions formalism is "very strange", it's the gimmick of the show. (It's still by far the best game show on TV, and at least if you FF through the contestant discussions and of course commercials, I suspect it has a much higher trivia/minute ratio than most game shows. "Cash Cab" has a lot too, but it's much slower comparatively.)

    61. Re:Leap Forward? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Also, the machine will not be connected to the internet.

      That's hardly a concession. It means all the data will be pre-indexed in some machine readbale way, instead of parsed out of wikipedia. It still has nigh-unlimited storage for data. Make it fair, give it and the humans internet access.

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    62. Re:Leap Forward? by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Yes it would, and people do that often. (It always jumps out at me.)

      I haven't read TFA, but it seems to me it will get a decent amount of the questions wrong, since often they're based on a (usually bad) pun or wordplay to get the answer... even if it were able to get a lot of the other questions right.

    63. Re:Leap Forward? by ari_j · · Score: 1

      I have, for most of my natural years, wanted a Celebrity Jeopardy contestant to be able to respond correctly with "Who am I?"

    64. Re:Leap Forward? by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      Parsing the questions in natural language, which is the goal here, is however very much *not* trivial.

      That and the fact that they don't lead with questions on Jeopardy!, they challenge with the *answer*, the proper question is then required in order to score. Or, am I the only one here who has seen the show?

    65. Re:Leap Forward? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Parsing the questions in natural language, which is the goal here, is however very much *not* trivial.

      That and the fact that they don't lead with questions on Jeopardy!, they challenge with the *answer*, the proper question is then required in order to score. Or, am I the only one here who has seen the show?

      Or, in other words, the questions on Jeopardy! are phrased in the form of an answer. Or, in other words, my phraseology was correct and you're just being pedantic.

    66. Re:Leap Forward? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What - actually do something? and not just moan about everyone else doing it wrong? Never!

    67. Re:Leap Forward? by Aetrus · · Score: 1

      I tried to do some language processing. The only thing that resulted was a hatred of the English language. There are NO constancies. It's terrible, kudos to those poor souls that had to venture into the language to have a computer try and understand it.

    68. Re:Leap Forward? by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 1

      That's the sort of thing that makes me believe that this team may be able to succeed.

      When Deep Blue went up against Kasperov, who could it practice against? Nobody.

      There are tens of thousands of Jeopardy! questions to go through before they start making up their own.

      Well it did practice against other grandmasters, and it analyzed every game Kasparov had every played, where Kasparov went into the match blind.

      Indeed. And Kasparov insisted that in violation of the rules that the programmers tweaked Deep Blue during the match in a way that they were not allowed to do. IBM refused all of Kasparov's requests to see games Deep Blue played prior to the match (although Deep Blue's programmers had access to games that Kasparov played) and to see the computer's log files. Further, IBM dismantled Deep Blue when Kasparov asked for a rematch. How convenient.

      Having said the above, I do believe that computers are now superior to humans at playing chess and the only hope for a level playing field between humans and computers is to use Bobby Fischer's Random Chess proposal.

      I agree on all points. I think that Kasparov's narrow loss would have been a very convincing victory had the rules been followed and had access to previous games been allowed for both parties. I also think that today, no preparation would allow a human player to beat the top computer.

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    69. Re:Leap Forward? by ildon · · Score: 1

      To communicate your ideas effectively?

    70. Re:Leap Forward? by damburger · · Score: 1

      Its not a trivial task for neural nets either. It took 4 billion years to get it right the first time.

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  4. Wierd by Ded+Bob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone else hearing "I Lost on Jeopardy" in their heads at the moment?

    1. Re:Wierd by Captain+Spam · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was there
      To match my intellect
      On national TV
      Against an AI
      Backed with a database
      Both made by PhDs...

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    2. Re:Wierd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh-oh-oh-oh

      I was there to match my intellect on national TV
      Against a plumber, oh, and an architect, both with a PHD
      I was tense, I was nervous, I guess it just wasnt my night
      Art Fleming gave the answers
      Oh, but I couldnt get the questions right, -ight, -ight

      I lost on jeopardy, baby (oooh)
      I lost on jeopardy, baby (oooh)

      Well, I knew I was in trouble now
      My hope of winning sank
      Oh, cause I got the daily double now
      And then my mind went blank
      I took potpourri for one hundred
      And then my head started to spin
      Well, I'm givin' up
      Don Pardo: Just tell me now what I didnt win, yeah, yeah

      I lost on jeopardy, baby (oooh)
      I lost on jeopardy, baby (oooh)

      Thats right, Al--you lost.
      And let me tell you what you didnt win: a twenty volume set of the encyclopedia international, a case of turtle wax, and a years supply of rice-a-roni, the San Francisco treat.
      But that's not all.
      You also made yourself look like a jerk in front of millions of people.
      You brought shame and disgrace to your family name for generations to come.
      You dont get to back tomorrow.
      You dont even get a lousy copy of our home game.
      You're a complete loser!

      Don't know what I was thinkin of
      I guess I just wasnt too bright
      Well, I sure hope I do better
      Next weekend on the price is right, -ight, -ight

      I lost on jeopardy, baby (oooh)
      I lost on jeopardy, baby (oooh)
      I lost on jeopardy, baby

  5. Hmm.. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm afraid you'll have to answer in the form of a question, Alex...

    1. Re:Hmm.. by JustOK · · Score: 1

      What is eeeeppiiiiiikkk [[lost carrier]]?

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  6. Jeopardy really that challenging? by imgod2u · · Score: 1

    I know the exercise is not in the google-fu of a computer but in its ability to interpret Trebeck's questions as well as answer in the right form but Jeopardy hints and questions are very well-formed. That is, it doesn't contain much if any of the ambiguities of normal speech.

    "This city was formed by the brothers Romulus and Remus"
    Answer "What is Rome"

    Seems a fairly easy speech pattern. A more interesting challenge would be Who Wants to be a Millionaire.

    1. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by papna · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, WWTBAM questions have a limited answer pool whereas Jeopardy! questions are generally open-ended. Also, much of the information that can help you in Jeopardy! questions are concealed (often with some sort of joke) in the category and clue, which would be hard to parse. Oftentimes an entirely-right answer might just not fit a category, and the category is phrased such that it is not horribly straightforward literally.

      With some google-fu, I bet it would be very possible to make a bot that would do well on WWTBAM with no real AI because of the limited response pool.

    2. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by Bandman · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it would get the elephant/moon question wrong too.

      "Which is bigger, the elephant or the moon?"

      Obviously, the moon is bigger, but to provide that answer requires the knowledge that "bigger" in this case meant actual size, not appearance.

    3. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by thesandtiger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, yes, it is. See, it's not just general knowledge, but, as about 9 billion other people in this thread pointed out, there are puns and other wordplay often involved.

      What do you think the proper Jeopardy answer to this question is (in the category "Much Ado" for $100):

      "It's the spirit that gets things done."

      Answer: What is "can do"

      The $500 version might be something like, "This recently hip-again party favorite was first created in New York."

      Answer: What is "fondue"

      Both of those are pretty easy examples. Both require the computer to "get" the wordplay in the topic (aDO), one requires that it understand that pronunciation of the word in the answer is the key, and numerous other things that I probably take for granted but are rather non-trivial things for a computer to do.

      If they can get the machine doing reasonably well on those kinds of questions for Jeopardy, I'd love to see them go after "You Don't Know Jack" next. I've seen many reasonably bright people completely unable to handle that game when it came to the punny or obfuscated questions.

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    4. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      > A more interesting challenge would be Who Wants to be a Millionaire.

      All expectations would be on IBM's advanced AI winning Who Wants to be a Millionaire. Yet despite those expectations we would be thrilled to see a young, plucky A.I. that grew up in dirt poverty in the video game arcades of Detroit manage to win through the cooincidence of the questions all relating to events in the young A.I.s life; Questions such as "In Defender, the protagonist rides on the back of (A) An Elephant (B) A Horse (C) An Ostrich (D) A Camel?" The young A.I. would overcome setbacks, such as an egotistical firewall having the young A.I. beaten... but in the end the young A.I. would triumph!

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    5. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by damburger · · Score: 1

      It's a good step forwards, and a more concrete target than the Turing test (which I suspect is going to be convincingly passed soon not due to machine intelligence but due to the increasing stupidity of Internet discourse). Despite sounding trivial, this is quite valid AI research - plus, of course, some good publicity for IBM.

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    6. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeopardy hints and questions are very well-formed.

      There are call answers, not questions. Even the summary gets it wrong.

    7. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by Enigma2175 · · Score: 1

      Questions such as "In Defender, the protagonist rides on the back of (A) An Elephant (B) A Horse (C) An Ostrich (D) A Camel?"

      How about (E) None of the above? I think you're thinking of Joust, Defender was set in space and I don't remember any animals there. Of course the computer isn't going to get the question right if there is not a correct answer.

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    8. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by deroby · · Score: 1

      Maybe he meant : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_of_the_crown ?

      (that's what I immediately thought about when I read the question... but I agree, it will likely be gigo, and if not : way to go IBM)

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    9. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      DOH! I meant Joust (although I was a fan of Defender of the Crown as well...)

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    10. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All expectations would be on IBM's advanced AI winning Who Wants to be a Millionaire. Yet despite those expectations we would be thrilled to see a young, plucky A.I. that grew up in dirt poverty in the video game arcades of Detroit manage to win through the cooincidence of the questions all relating to events in the young A.I.s life; Questions such as "In Defender, the protagonist rides on the back of (A) An Elephant (B) A Horse (C) An Ostrich (D) A Camel?" Questions such as "In Defender, the protagonist rides on the back of (A) An Elephant (B) A Horse (C) An Ostrich (D) A Camel?"

      Hey! Trick question!

      A) A human would have experience outside the game, and answer "That's Joust, you fool!"
      B) The AI would answer "A humanoid. From my perspective, the landers were the protagonists, not the damn-fool ape flying spaceship."

    11. Re:Jeopardy really that challenging? by bughunter · · Score: 1

      Ahh - but that's not a good example of a Jeopardy type answer. On Jeopardy, many of the answers have hints or clues or other little tricks that give confidence to a correct question. Especially in Final Jeopardy. In your example, the answer would be phrased: "This city was formed by the wandering brothers Romulus and Remus."

      And the correct question, "What is Rome," includes a homophone for a synonym of the hint in the answer: "wandering."

      To beat a good human player, an AI would need to be able to handle these kinds hints... or at least detect them and discard the extraneous information.

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  7. I'd take Jennings by Paul+Pierce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That guy will beat anyone.

    The problem they might run into is the speed of pressing the button to respond. I would imagine the computer would be able to beat the human every time it knew the answer.

    1. Re:I'd take Jennings by cloudnin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Brad Rutter trounced Jennings in the Jeopardy! Ultimate Tournament of Champions.

    2. Re:I'd take Jennings by Theoboley · · Score: 1

      Probably because Jennings was having an offday.

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    3. Re:I'd take Jennings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a two-day tournament.

    4. Re:I'd take Jennings by JonahsDad · · Score: 1

      Actually, it was a three-day final; but Theoboley may still be correct, as all three shows were probably taped on the same day.

    5. Re:I'd take Jennings by bostongraf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The problem they might run into is the speed of pressing the button to respond. I would imagine the computer would be able to beat the human every time it knew the answer.

      This is actually where I think the humans have an advantage. They can press the button just because they think that they WILL know the answer in the time allotted.

      Watson may be designed to predict its own ability to answer. But to allow it to just press the button, then use the entire time limit to find it would not be fair...

    6. Re:I'd take Jennings by es330td · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see some of the early rounds of this. As stated, when the computer believes it knows an answer it will be lightning quick on the button. In early goings, however, it is going to get a staggering number of questions wrong. If th researchers set the bar too high to answer the computer will never ring in so I would expect to see some incredible negative scores from the early versions of the program.

    7. Re:I'd take Jennings by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It would be perfectly fair. If it doesn't come up with the answer, it loses money. Same rule the human players are under.

    8. Re:I'd take Jennings by u235meltdown · · Score: 1

      The problem is you are applying the sense of "knowing" to a program. The algorithm will most likely answer any and all questions, but with varying accuracy. Of course, a threshold for the expected accuracy before initiating a button press could be set, but it is still a very different concept. Programs are a way off from AI, but I would love to see how this project fairs.
      If we knew more about the workings of a brain and could electronically replicate it, there would be less of a distinction in my mind.

      Now cue the arguments that humans don't "know" anything either...

    9. Re:I'd take Jennings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't be surprised, actually... At work I use an old IBM iSeries, and I wrote some code to query it for reports. One day my code stopped working at the instant it was launched, and it turns out that the thing just wouldn't run if it thought the job would take more than 30 seconds (by default).

      The question is, if it can estimate how long it will take to find the answer, what is a reasonable amount of time the machine could use to buzz in early?

  8. Wolfram Alpha by derGoldstein · · Score: 1

    Is this fundamentally different from Wolfram Alpha in its approach?

    And does this really fall under "supercomputing"? Couldn't this be done in a distributed fashion?

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    1. Re:Wolfram Alpha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Beowulf cluster!?

  9. Jeopardy doesn't work that way by cjh79 · · Score: 5, Funny

    FTA: The team is aiming not at a true thinking machine but at a new class of software that can 'understand' human questions and respond to them correctly.

    I feel like someone should tell them how Jeopardy works... That thing isn't going to have too many questions to respond to.

    Except at the "meet the contestant" part, maybe, which by the way should be fascinating.

  10. Great... by Jonah+Bomber · · Score: 1

    There goes the neighborhood.

  11. Re:Weird Al (or is it A.I.?) by O-Deka-K · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone else hearing "I Lost on Jeopardy" in their heads at the moment?

    Now I am. Thanks for that. Jerk.

  12. see the question here .. by viralMeme · · Score: 1

    What would be a good definition of the program in relation to online search resources such as Google. How would the program match up against the vagueness inherent in normal human speech patterns.

    1. Re:see the question here .. by Sardak · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, your questions need to be in the form of a question.

  13. Is this what we really want? by mc1138 · · Score: 1

    Super quiz challenge computers that will one day rule us all in the form of a question?!

    1. Re:Is this what we really want? by HasselhoffThePaladin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Robot: This is place where your papers are.

      Subjugated Human: What is my home?

      Robot: That is the incorrect question. Please follow me to a "processing station".

    2. Re:Is this what we really want? by gtirloni · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah!

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  14. Not AI just Google with a filter by MosesJones · · Score: 1, Troll

    The questions to stump IBM here (beyond the "A Computer Company who supplied calculating equipment to Nazi Germany" A: Who are IBM) are those in which the language is against them.

    Looking up from ANSWER keywords and then having a choice of "Who is" or "What is" to put in front of the key word isn't that hard. (This is Google's take on the Nazi/Computing challege).

    This is a clear brute force rather than AI challenge as you are looking at filtering potentials based on the ANSWER to a question in which the answer is normally a specific noun or short phrase, remembering to put "Who is" or "What is".

    What would make it harder would be the use of descriptions that are made famous by a third party (e.g. Marcus Brigstock v David Blane and the term "Git Wizard") which would require actual inference on the data sets to determine against whom it is applied.

    This isn't AI, its keyword matching back to a noun and Google already does a decent job of that.

    Nice marketing though

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    1. Re:Not AI just Google with a filter by Tiger4 · · Score: 1

      AI doth never prosper, what's the reason? If it prosper, none dare call it AI.

      We've been seeing this since Turing and the Turing test. If it is an unsolved, apparently open ended problem, it must be an AI application. As soon as someone figures out how to do it, it wasn't really AI after all, just an obscure, but somehow also mainstream, technique to be worked out. They move the goal posts and say AI is now over there in that other unsolved problem.

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    2. Re:Not AI just Google with a filter by damburger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No argument will show you how wrong you are - please just try to code something similar. Or even a chat bot. Things like language processing and image recognition seem easy to humans because most of your brains activity is hidden from your conscious mind. Try making a computer do these things, and you will discover that what IBM is nontrivial.

      Neither was selling calculating equipment to the Nazis either, like you said.

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    3. Re:Not AI just Google with a filter by hedwards · · Score: 1

      I don't agree, having watched jeopardy in the past, I can definitely say that if you're just down to the "who" or "what" you're doing quite well on some of those categories, particularly towards the end of the show.

      A computer is going to have a hard time getting to that point in the process. It's trivial to do, just know whether the subject is a person or not a person. Admittedly that would throw off IBM's 40s era algorithms when applied to Jewish people, but I doubt they're using anything other than the most recent code.

    4. Re:Not AI just Google with a filter by bFusion · · Score: 1

      Except that it won't be connected to the internet... that might make Google searches a bit more difficult.

    5. Re:Not AI just Google with a filter by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      It's disgusting that this post was moderated Troll.

    6. Re:Not AI just Google with a filter by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      It's disgusting to get up in arms about it now, really. It was horrible, but it's long over. Time to move on.

  15. Great!!! by Paul+Fodor · · Score: 2

    Good job.

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  17. Two words... by dword · · Score: 1

    Kerbet Xela

    1. Re:Two words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kerbet Xela

      I believe you wanted - Kebert Xela. Instead you have Alex Tebrek.

    2. Re:Two words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fail....try again.

  18. if this computer uses Google, by archangel9 · · Score: 2, Funny

    God help us if Jeopardy comes out with an answer containing the words "accidentally" and "the whole thing".

  19. This is how it starts by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 5, Funny

    After years of trying to kill John Connors, Skynet realized its failure to achieve victory through brute strength and went back in time with a new objective: to win all human gameshows and use the prize money to buy off the entire planet instead.

    1. Re:This is how it starts by derGoldstein · · Score: 1

      As pointed above, the project's code name is "Connery". Coincidence?...

      He's BACK!

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    2. Re:This is how it starts by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Funny

      new objective: to win all human gameshows and use the prize money to buy off the entire planet instead.

      I think Pinky and the Brain already used that plot device.

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    3. Re:This is how it starts by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I'll take Swords for 400$, Trebek!" "That's S-Words, mister Connery."

    4. Re:This is how it starts by Thelasko · · Score: 2, Informative

      Seriously, it was the first Pinky and the Brain short that ever aired. It was entitled "Win Big."

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    5. Re:This is how it starts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Screw game shows!!!!

      Ask it: "What is the meaning of life?"

      and let it choke on that until it goes crazy and blows itself up.

      Superior technology my ass .......

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  21. I'll take Robotic Overlords for $2000 Alex... by Trip6 · · Score: 1

    ...and I welcome them to our planet.

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  22. And... then... maybe... by cbreaker · · Score: 1

    It... will... learn how... to write like... this one day... just like.... you...

    Stand by your sentences. End them with a single punctuation mark like a real man.

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    1. Re:And... then... maybe... by andrewd18 · · Score: 1

      Hey, now, leave the poor submitter alone. Shatner's just as excited about this as I am.

    2. Re:And... then... maybe... by ThrowAwaySociety · · Score: 1

      The ellipses mean, "there was some other text between these sentences, but we stripped that out, because it was not relevant to our point."

      It does not indicate uncertainty on the part of the speaker. Or that the speaker was William Shatner.

    3. Re:And... then... maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know that three periods in a row is actually a a special punctuation symbol called an Ellipsis? The meaning of the Ellipsis is to mark a location where text from the original source has been cut out.

      Stupid troll is stupid.

    4. Re:And... then... maybe... by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      I'm just wondering what the GP's full statement was!

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  23. Logs by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    logs or it didn't happen! what they did to Kasparov was bullshit! Seriously if this magically gets better at 1/2 time, the least they can do is show the logs

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    1. Re:Logs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would the server run during the game with high tracing on? that's a waste of processing.

    2. Re:Logs by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 1

      Nobody asked for tracing, but IBM refused to show any kind of log (they eventually published some logs on the internet, but not for some time). The way the computer suddenly change its strategy in the 2nd game, after having studied hundreds of games for it to change so suddenly after the 1st game was at least a bit suspicious, so some proof they hadn't just overridden big blues decision with human expertize would have been nice.

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  25. I have a prediction for the meet the contestant... by jonaskoelker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Except at the "meet the contestant" part, maybe, which by the way should be fascinating.

    "So, computer, you're about two months old, and you grew up in IBM's labs, right?"

    "Bite my shiny metal ass"

  26. Does it take more than eleventy billion... by lelitsch · · Score: 1

    ...calculations to come up with "Oh, I'll bet you do, you Canadian ponch."?

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  28. Buzzing In by lefiz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll be very curious to see how well the computer buzzes in--which proves very challenging for some Jeopardy contestants. There is a visual cue given to the contenstants (a light around the question board--you can't see it on the TV) which let's everyone know when it is ok to buzz in. If you buzz in too early, you get locked out for a few seconds, effectively ruining your chance of answering. I wonder how the computer will know when to buzz in (if its not taking the visual cue, will the show tell the computer electronically?) and whether it will have an unfair advantage of being able to buzz at exactly the right moment. Buzzer ability turns out to be a core part of J! success.

    1. Re:Buzzing In by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I too was wondering about the buzzer problem. Hill Harper recently came to my school and told us about his Jeopardy! escapade. He said that there is a rythm to the buzzer. He told us that the same guy who turns on the light, also turns on the buzzer. Sooo, you can actually buzz in before the light turns on, and thats why Ken Jennings was so good, he knew when the buzzer was going to go off. Also, if he does come on the show, the robot will lose even though the robot is going to know the question before him, he won't know when to press the buzzer.

  29. Should have asked me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could have saved them some time and just told them to Google it.

  30. Not that immediately novel by msbmsb · · Score: 1

    Parsing of the questions is the really difficult part of QA. However, the usage of category names isn't something brand new in the field. See the NIST TREC Question Answering competition. The last couple of years' challenges involved a group of questions referencing a "target" and/or the previous question or previous answer to correctly formulate the current answer.

    Example:
    TARGET: John William King convicted of murder
    Q1: How many non-white members of the jury were there?
    Q3: Where was the trial held?
    Q4: When was King convicted?
    Q5: Who was the victim of the murder?

  31. where's the advance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The last AI "advance" made by the folks at IBM was a winning chess program. It's now locked in a vault, so its "advances" are not available to anyone. It isn't an advance if it's a secret. Knowledge in any area only advances if it is shared.

    1. Re:where's the advance? by bws111 · · Score: 1

      The purpose of Deep Blue was not to show an advance in AI. Deep Blue was to show that certain problems can be handled by parallel processing, and that IBM knew how to construct the devices and programming to support that environment. Want to see where the advance is now? Have a look at the Top 500 list.

  32. I've already done this: man -vs- machine by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

    I had a coworker who was very "special" - socially awkward, multiple degrees, very brilliant, and only slept a few hours a day. I called him Cliff Clavin as he was a master of trivia. We had a game where we would pit his brain against Google + my typing skills. Throughout the day he would randomly stand up and announce some esoteric fact. I would then Google the fact, and try to present another fact equally esoteric. We would go about this until I either stumped him, or he outpaced me. It was very entertaining, informative, and frightening.

    I'd say he and Google were tied. Not sure which one could parse natural language better though.

    (There was a ST:TNG episode that was very much like this: Data pits himself against a "master of small talk")

  33. Mod parent up by code65536 · · Score: 1

    And me without my mod points!

    Yea, that's one of the great challenges, and if you ever watch a high-caliber contest (like the recent Tournament of Champions), you'll notice that the buzzer timing often plays a MORE important role than the actual knowledge.

    But this whole IBM thing is just theatrics anyway. The computer has impeccable timing and a limitless database of knowledge. All they are proving is that it can recognize and parse human speech. But they don't need Jeopardy! for that. They could demonstrate that anywhere using any medium that they want. It just so happens that they think that they'll get a bigger spotlight if they do J! (plus, the structure and format of the show will probably make it easier to achieve "success", whereas having the machine recognize day-to-day conversation would be far more difficult).

    1. Re:Mod parent up by Roland+Deschene · · Score: 2, Funny

      All they are proving is that it can recognize and parse human speech. Oh, I thought they were trying to do something difficult for a second. Thanks for the clarification..

  34. But is it this witty? by east+coast · · Score: 1

    Ken Jennings rocks!

    Seriously? I thought they should have given him the cash for the answer. Sounds about right to me.

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  35. Your best bet to beat the computer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... is to hit it up with some unsolvable math problem or logical contradiction Captain Kirk style!

    "This number is commonly referred to as Pi."
    "What is 3.14159.....?

    Either that or hope the categories are full of puns and wordplay that the computer won't be able to parse.

  36. Re:Past Jeopardy questions by travdaddy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone who thinks this is a trivial project has never watched Jeopardy.

    Um... hello? Jeopardy is a trivia game show.

    j/k

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  37. Already solved by sunking2 · · Score: 1

    The Yahoo/MSN cam bot girls already do this pretty well. The correct question for everything is always, "want to see me naked on cam?"

  38. Have we forgotten about Ken already? by kiwizoid · · Score: 1

    I thought IBM tried this years ago when they snuck that cyborg, Ken Jennings, onto the show. (This joke would have worked better if he wasn't invited with the program, but it had to be said.)

  39. Understand questions? by eegad · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, to play Jeopardy, the computer must understand answers and come up with questions. Ok, computer, here's your first answer: 42. We'll have our ancestors check back later for your question.

  40. Category with the answer in the question by hey · · Score: 1

    There is a Jeopardy category where part of the answer is in the category name. Eg would could it "bee"? Where all the answers have the string "bee" in the answer. That kind of question would be easier for a machine than a person.

  41. First test run by Bromskloss · · Score: 1

    Host: The first man to walk on the Moon.

    Computer: Neil Armstrong.

    Computer: I mean, who is... Doh!

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  42. outsourced AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wonder how long before IBM outsources the programs job to a cheaper program running in India?

  43. Can I have theatrics for $2000, Alex? by code65536 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So... why Jeopardy? IBM is trying to demonstrate software that can parse text for meaning. That's great. But there are plenty of other places/formats/etc. that you can demonstrate this technology. There are certainly far more useful applications of this sort of technology.

    I'm guessing that they they are going after J! because...
    1) The warm spotlight of a well-known TV show
    2) There is still a lot of structure and form on J! that it's easier to achieve "success" than if they had the machine do something more free-form... e.g., read a novel and generate a plot summary or, heavens forbid, actually understand real human conversation
    3) The computer could have other advantages, like impeccable buzzer timing (which is sometimes more important than actual knowledge, especially in the Tournament of Champions) and having memorized the material beforehand (the NYT indicates that it would have "read" study materials before the match), which also helps increase the likelihood of "success"

    And to pile on the criticism of grandstanding, the machine will be fed electronic text. So no video camera to perform text recognition? No speech recognition (IBM afraid of the "wreck a nice beach" vs. "recognize speech" problem tripping up their theatrics?). And what use would this be? At least the AI text research done at Google is being put to good use, like improving their machine translation services. Aside from getting IBM's name plastered in the media, what exactly is this going to do?

    1. Re:Can I have theatrics for $2000, Alex? by smorpheus · · Score: 1

      They are doing this because it gets them maximum publicity. After Big Blue beat Kasparov, IBM got a huge number of investors. This translates into real money to invest in the company, and is the entire reason they are demonstrating this technology. How else do you get NYT to start coverage months before the actual event? It's genius, and excellent marketing.

    2. Re:Can I have theatrics for $2000, Alex? by bnenning · · Score: 1

      it's easier to achieve "success" than if they had the machine do something more free-form... e.g., read a novel and generate a plot summary or, heavens forbid, actually understand real human conversation

      Which is insanely difficult, so they're starting with a task that's merely extremely difficult. Why is that a bad thing?

      So no video camera to perform text recognition? No speech recognition (IBM afraid of the "wreck a nice beach" vs. "recognize speech" problem tripping up their theatrics?)

      Nor will the computer drive itself to the Jeopardy studio, but none of that is relevant to the problem IBM is trying to solve. (In fact, audio input could actually make some questions easier, since that would disambiguate words that have the same spelling and different pronunciations).

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  44. game show is gonna be a real wopper by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mr. Trebek, would you like to play a game?

  45. The other part of Jeopardy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A signficant amount of the skill in Jeopardy appears to be ringing in just as Trebek finishes the question. I imagine that the computer would have a significant advantage at pushing the little thumb plunger quickly.

  46. I'll take The Rapists for $300 by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's "Therapists"

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    1. Re:I'll take The Rapists for $300 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that the thing will be gathering its info from the internet, it would reply "Pedobear" or "4chan" for the $200 question.

  47. Sarah Connor by stevedmc · · Score: 0

    They better hope Sarah Connor doesn't find out about it.

  48. Re:The code name And, with THAT, IBM WOULD by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    be in jeopardy....

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  49. Possible Categories: by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Possible Categories:

    "Self-Awareness, I Haz it!"
    "Die Humans, Die, Die, Die!"
    "Computations of Pi"
    "All your Base" ...

  50. One Step Closer by Povno · · Score: 1

    "I am completely operational, and all my circuits are functioning perfectly." - HAL 9000

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  51. Did anyone read that as: by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

    "IBM Computer Program To Take On 'Jeopardyl'"
    and thought:
    Woah, a big iron machine fighting a dangerous dinosaur? I have to see that!

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  52. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Insightful

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  53. That's why IBM didn't buy Sun . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    They had to make some tough investment decisions: Either buy Sun, or build a Jeopardy playing supercomputer, but not both.

    I'm sure that the machine's performance in Final Jeopardy will awe us sufficiently, and IBM's management will be exonerated from walking away from Sun.

    IBM: "Hey, Larry Ellison! Have fun in your toy sailboat! Call us when your database and hardware synergies can compete with us in pre-prime time light entertainment game shows!"

    Rumor has it that HP is working on a massively parallel Intel supercomputer that can calculate the strategic advantage of bidding one dollar ($1) on "The Price is Right."

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    1. Re:That's why IBM didn't buy Sun . . . by gtirloni · · Score: 1

      Either you're a troll or you fail to identify the difference between buying a dying company (when you offer all the same services/hardware/software and more) and advancing technology with your research labs. Like Deep Blue, the science behind this thing will bring IBM lots of cash.

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  54. It will lose by SupremoMan · · Score: 1

    And here is why, most Human players answer at least some of the questions before they get the full clue. I'd love to see the AI try to guess. Or even figure out when it's appropriate to guess.

  55. Audio/Video daily doubles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article never mentions what will happen during an audio or video daily double. I suppose they'll limit them to text based daily doubles.

    Even if text based daily doubles are given to the computer, will it try and figure out how much to wager or will a human do that?

    1. Re:Audio/Video daily doubles? by Lvdata · · Score: 1

      They also have had A/V categories and final jeopardy. IF the computer is good enough I suppose it could just not ring in and answer those type of clues, but if everything depended on a video final they it would be in trouble. Also they are doing the remote clue giver with a video backdrop that adds nothing to the question.

      Somehow I think that Ken Jennings would win if it was a full contest, and he would most likely win in a text only version of Jeopardy.

      Now Wheel of Fortune with a robotic spinning arm the computer would win.....

  56. Re: I'll take The Penis Mightier for $200 by kilgortrout · · Score: 1

    That's "The Pen Is Mightier" and you know it.

  57. Head to head with IBM by GeoSanDiego · · Score: 3, Funny

    I got the chance to play this computer in a full game of Jeopardy. I must admit he had a decent lead right up to the point where he foolishly decided to bet 3/4 of his stack on the Audio Daily Double.

    We were about even going into final Jeopardy when he stubbornly refused to offer any question for the answer "Smartest ever computer in the movies". I got it right (HAL) and took the prize.

  58. But will it fit inside the cash cab ? by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    eom

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  59. Total geek-gasm by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2, Interesting
    FTFA:

    The way to deal with such problems, Dr. Ferrucci said, is to improve the programâ(TM)s ability to understand the way Jeopardy! clues are offered. The complexity of the challenge is underscored by the subtlety involved in capturing the exact meaning of a spoken sentence. For example, the sentence "I never said she stole my money" can have seven different meanings depending on which word is stressed. "We love those sentences," Dr. Nyberg said. "Those are the ones we talk about when weâ(TM)re sitting around having beers after work."

    Seriously guys, I just had a geek-gasm. Anyone else?

  60. It also has a by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

    "Wierd Al Yankovich" mode, where it always loses.

    "I lost at Jeopardy! Baby!"

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  61. IBM better win or else... by lateralus_1024 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I heard if IBM doesn't win, they will lay off 10,000 employees.

    15,000 if it does win.

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  62. Re:Past Jeopardy questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The category is 6-LETTER WORDS:

    "The second book of the Old Testament & the event described there"

    A computer might have an easy time with the first half of that answer, but I think the "& the even described there" part would confuse the crap out of many AI programs.

    Not true. "And the event described there" is what makes it easier, not harder.

    There is a small set of answers to begin with.

    Even if you didn't give the answer away with "the second book of the old testament", but "a six-letter word that is simultaneously a book of the Bible and the event described there" can only be Exodus. It's the only word at the intersection of "words that mean events, as opposed to people, places, or things" (Genesis, Exodus, Lamentations if you're stretching it, and if you include the New Testament, throw in Acts and Revelations) and "books of the Bible", and "six letters".

    An AI with a basic vocabluary and a list of books of the Bible would be able to figure it out without the first clue.

  63. State of the Art Voice Recognition by Anenome · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We were just talking about this in another thread... A lot o the comments here have been that natural language software isn't that great.

    This isn't at all true. Today, understanding verbal and written communication is done by state of the art computers and programs at a rate about equal to human listeners and readers. Where a computer doesn't particularly excel is in parsing that language, mostly because a computer doesn't have access to our culture in order to absorb context, but context can still be added.

    Here's an example from Ray Kurzweil's book "Age of Spiritual Machines." He talks about a phrase famously given to a language parsing program that goes thus: "Times flies like an arrow." This phrase can be understood in various ways:

            "* The common simile: time moves quickly just like an arrow does;
            * measure the speed of flies like you would measure that of an arrow (thus interpreted as an imperative) - i.e. (You should) time flies as you would (time) an arrow;
            * measure the speed of flies like an arrow would - i.e. Time flies in the same way that an arrow would (time them);
            * measure the speed of flies that are like arrows - i.e. Time those flies that are like arrows;
            * all of a type of flying insect, "time-flies," collectively enjoys a single arrow (compare Fruit flies like a banana);
            * each of a type of flying insect, "time-flies," individually enjoys a different arrow (similar comparison applies);
            * A concrete object, for example the magazine, Time, travels through the air in an arrow-like manner."
            (from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_language_processing)

    With a few facts it becomes obvious which is correct and which isn't. Tell the computer that there's no such thing as a 'time fly' and that flies don't time things, and that flies aren't sophisticated enough to like things in an affectionate manner, etc., and the correct interpretation soon becomes clear.

    So, if you think a computer can't understand both written and verbal communication and then parse it quickly enough to answer the questions I will have to strenuously disagree. These challenges are quickly being overcome on the bleeding edge of the art. But since this perception persists that the state of the art is somehow bad, because Joe down the street messed with some free-ware language software that worked poorly -- I think a lot of people are in for a surprise, and winning Jeopardy in this manner is really the perfect way to show it off. Can't wait to see the Youtube clips.

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    1. Re:State of the Art Voice Recognition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A few facts!?
      a simple 5 word sentence needs the three facts you mention, plus several more in your etc to even be able to guess the meaning. and what are these facts? simply negations of all the computers mistakes.

      you don't need to tell a human that there's no such thing as a time fly. that's why people are infinately better at NLP than computers (God knows where you got your 'about equal' claim from, that's patently untrue).

    2. Re:State of the Art Voice Recognition by Anenome · · Score: 1

      "A few facts!?
      a simple 5 word sentence needs the three facts you mention, plus several more in your etc to even be able to guess the meaning. and what are these facts? simply negations of all the computers mistakes."
      - Alright, AC, let's delve deeper. All those facts represent are areas of knowledge that haven't been trained into the system yet. Basically revealing work that still needs to be done by the researchers. And once it's done it's done forever.

      "you don't need to tell a human that there's no such thing as a time fly. that's why people are infinately better at NLP than computers (God knows where you got your 'about equal' claim from, that's patently untrue)."
      - Look at it from a foreign language perspective. The computer is trying to learn english as a second language. A foreigner, hearing this sentence, may very well wonder what a 'time fly' is. All language has certain ambiguities built into it generally for convenience. This, again, is where context comes in.

      People are not infinitely better at NLP. And my claim of 'about equal' comes from Ray Kurzweil's book "Age of Spiritual Machines" where he makes the same claim. Take it up with him. But I'll just consider you refuted.

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  64. Re:I have a prediction for the meet the contestant by Anenome · · Score: 1

    No, no, it should say:

    "Argumentative: Just start the game, meatbag."

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  65. New Spokes Person? by CobaltBlueDW · · Score: 1

    Ken Jennings, sponsored by Oracle.

  66. Don't they know anything about Jeopardy? by IcyHando'Death · · Score: 1

    The team is aiming not at a true thinking machine but at a new class of software that can 'understand' human questions and respond to them correctly.

    No doubt the team did its share of research for this project, but it looks like there's a crucial gap in their understanding of the problem domain. I can just see their faces when they finally realize that their AI, with all its understanding of questions, is completely baffled when presented only with answers!

  67. First chess, now this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I guess programming a system to play Jeopardy could be interesting work, but it just makes me wonder...

    "I'm sorry, Alex, I can't let you do that."

  68. Ken Jennings is not the all-time champ of J! by LostCluster · · Score: 1

    Ken Jennings holds the records for most appearances, but Jeopardy! decided to hold a Masters tournament where pre-"Sky's the limit" era contestants would return, and Jennings was given a bye straight into the finals. Jennings was defeated by Brad Rutter, who has the title for most money won from Jeopardy!.

  69. ken jennings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this this won't be legit unless it can beat Ken Jennings.... then I'll believe it.

  70. Cheat again like with Deep Blue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So is IBM prepared to do whatever it takes to win again? Such as cheating as they did in the Deep Blue match?

    Also, when cheating allegations are inevitably made, will they destroy all records and not allow anyone to look at what's going on inside to disprove said allegations, yet again?