For the config files: I think this is in fact a more clean and simple way to do. I like it more than any gui and don't understand why poeple always think "it's grapical, so it must be better".
But you even say that you don't want to configure the system *at all*. Then please leave the files of your *suse*-linux in their initial state and STFU!
For the rest i could only say: cowsay "stepping out to take some fresh air"; emerge -uD world && cowsay "aaahh, that was wonderful!"
The bottom line of all this is: You have to decide what you want. EITHER take it *preconfigured* and don't bitch about it OR accept that you have to make the descisions how you want your system to behave.
You can't have both. not in windows, not on mac not on linux. The only diff of windows an linux here is, that windows hides the config files behind some idiotic gui that only offers half of the possibilities (because it expects that you are an average idiot) and cripples the other half because of only leaving things in that are "self explaining".
I recommend the MATRIX to you, because it's the only thing i know, that you will accept and that does not ask you to configure it.;)
> From my PoV, a little governing of our digital Freedoms is acceptable if it means there's incentive for entities to build and offer good services.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From my POV, this not only counts for safety, but for nearly everything, as I see freedom as the highest of all goods. And I'm certanly not the only one who thinks that way if he actually *starts* thinking. (Wich is not a habit of what i call "the average citizen".)
> Skype is currently the only provider to allow calls to landlines and cellphones.
Maybe in the USA. Here in germany it's no big deal to get a clean VoIP for your home. There are many providers that have a bridge to the old phone networks, and some big companies like 1&1 pushing the system.
(By the way they all use real SIP and no proprietary protocol like skype. That's why they are mostly interconnected with most concurrents. My favourite is Sipgate.)
> Yes, but unlike religious dogma, scientific theories are meant to be falsifiable.
That's unfair! they can falsify ours and we must say okay, but we can not take down their bullshit because to them and their listeners they are always right?
Does this mean to the average american extremist, that we can only lose??
Okay, better, but from my POV still far, far, away. mainly because they not *want* to make it 100% conforming to the standards.
> As for having to move the mouse just to go back, I have a multibutton mouse, didnt even have to set it up to use the thumb button as the "Back" function.
Me too, even with a forward-button and stuff? But this was only an example for saying: there are so many things i'm used to that make my work faster, that i feel like impaird when using even IE 7...
> Are you telling me Opera, Mozilla and Firefox don't have a tonne of bugs? I work of plenty of Web App devs who know all too well that there a bugs, lots of bugs, both big and small in all of the above, including IE.
Well, i *am* a WebDev doing rich internet apps professionally since 1998, and of course you are right: there are tons of bugs in every bigger app. That's completely normal. the best way to explain the difference is to explain how you debug a RIA on IE vs. firefox where the reason is a browsr-bug (hypothetical case!):
1) Firefox: "Javascript Error: Object 'button' does not have a property 'UI' in line 523 in file 'gui.lib.js'" IE: "Error in line 523: Object not found"
2) Firefox: Ah, there's the object. of course it has no element UI. It IS the UI, not the model! But why does it ask for the UI-property? IE: First problem: Wich file does he mean? there are 20 of 'em. Second problem: The given line not always reflects the real line. Sometimes it's one line below, sometimes it's completely elsewhere.
3) Firefox: After using the venkman debugger, the dom inspector and some 30 minutes of time you eliminated all the possibilities that it can be your code. IE: After sund *hours* to track down the real line (s) of the problem you find 3 code fragments that - if removed - fix the thing. Problem: A) None of them has anything to do with a bug. They work fine when used in a test site. And B) It's not always reproducible making it a pain in the ass to track the thing down.
4) Firefox: I go to bugzilla.mozilla.org, and either find a bug report with a workaround and/or a "nightly build fixed. WFM". or i create a new one that shortly also becomes such a bug report. IE: I go to msdn.microsoft.com, but there is no useful information. With some luck i get a small hint on soem special case that could be involved.
5) Firefox: Now where i know the exact cause of the problem i can implement the workaround very easily and i can continue with real work. IE: After a (maybe some) night(s) of taking the whole webapp and the involved IE APIs apart, finding nothing, trying here and there, again finding nothing and basically building a new (maybe slower) implementation of the functionality (leaving one less way to do it), i get my workaround and can contine to work, if i still have the nerves to do so.
> At the time (last year) I only found a few, and they either had lousy functionality or were extremely slow.
I use the "session saver" plugin for a logn time now and it's neiter slow nor bad in funtionality. W(great)FM
But the funny thing is: If Opera is so "bloated", then why is it still (subjectively[?)) faster? (and has a more usable interface [i know there are poeple disagreeing with this, but i'm not].)
considering the - for modern users - nearly unusable interface (ex: "hey, why does rocker nav open a popup menu?? what? i have to actually *move* the mouse to the button and click, *just to go *back*???" "where are the tabs??" "where is the adblocker??"),
the tons of bugs (ask a real web developer. i'm pretty sure he answers you that he wants to strangle everyone still forcing him to support this load of misdocumented inconsistent unreliable crap that IE calls an API;),
and the chances that it ever gets really *good*... (depending of M$ being *good* from your POV)
I guess if I were an american i'd sue you for compensation for the pain and suffering you helped to do to me.;P
P.S.: I got in fact fired because in some special cases of inconsistency a (nearly) unpatched IE 6 destroys the whole site by making it unusable (and ugly). It seemed that the press and marketing chimps from many important companies did not have the patch, but in our company everyone had it. So I never saw a problem, released it, and *bam*: We were "blamed" that much at out target group that my big boss fired me. (Okay, you could also say that i should rather hate those chimps. In fact i hate IE *and* them.;)
And now i know why it has that name...
you wonder what it has to do with realtruebread.
I woul consider "wonder bread" as some kind of "wheat marshmallow".
it's so simple do determine because real natural flavours have up to hundrets of different molecules that compose the final taste.
A food scientist's tase cocktail will maybe have up to dome dozen of flavours. These are the most important ones.
And the more moleules, the more realistic it is... up to the level where you can't taste the difference.
Now it depends on the complexity of the original flavour and the quality of the imitaition how real it tastes. If you can get some very very expensive flavour there can be also more than hundret sub-flavours in it. And some flavours ae that easy that it's no problem to create a perfect imitation in every good food laboratory.
> Atkins works as it thows your body into ketosis, vegan works as you have almost zero fat intake,
simply being active, eating healthy and lowering your calorie intake works the best in the long run.
Atkins and vegan diets kill you for the very same reason that unhealty food does: it's unhealty!
I had many many different diets, and i can tell you that the whole concept of a "diet" is a huge load of crap!
Do you know what it takes to bekome healty and thin?
Eat only when you're really hungry! not when you just want to eat now. (to force you to a normal eating behaviour. try taping a "H?" above your fridge to remember yourself.)
Eat in smaller amounts and more often (to get your stomach to a normal size again and to not fall into a ravenous appetite).
Move your ass and do some sport.
And most important: never ever stop doing point 1-3 for the rest of your life!
That's really all you have to do. Nothing more... But as with all addictions, it depents on your willpower to do it. (Tip: A psychologist can help you more than you may think with that problem.)
are you using framebuffer support? this killed my logger (metalog) very often and createy various oopses adn problem. I can't recommend console framebuffers at all anymore. too dangerous...
... in europe. Here you can remove the card. But you can't put in a card from another company.
But wait: when you can't remove the card then it should be no problem to track the plone down because the fixed id (that is used to show the phone company who gets billed) can't be removed, right?
Well. Here in germany, they remove the sim-card and the police seems to be completely unable to track the phone down.
Usually when you go to the police their comments are going from "bad luck..." to a "loud" grin.
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For the config files: I think this is in fact a more clean and simple way to do. I like it more than any gui and don't understand why poeple always think "it's grapical, so it must be better".
;)
But you even say that you don't want to configure the system *at all*. Then please leave the files of your *suse*-linux in their initial state and STFU!
For the rest i could only say:
cowsay "stepping out to take some fresh air"; emerge -uD world && cowsay "aaahh, that was wonderful!"
The bottom line of all this is: You have to decide what you want.
EITHER take it *preconfigured* and don't bitch about it
OR accept that you have to make the descisions how you want your system to behave.
You can't have both. not in windows, not on mac not on linux.
The only diff of windows an linux here is, that windows hides the config files behind some idiotic gui that only offers half of the possibilities (because it expects that you are an average idiot) and cripples the other half because of only leaving things in that are "self explaining".
I recommend the MATRIX to you, because it's the only thing i know, that you will accept and that does not ask you to configure it.
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Okay, I should go to bed now...
For what use? To become more inefficient?
Or was this meant to be funny??
Looking at the average american citizen* or the ruler over this citizen, i would consider locking the american ip-space a better option...
;P
;)
But that's just an average european POV.
* This does NOT include the typical slashdot-user as they are some very special kind of human.
> From my PoV, a little governing of our digital Freedoms is acceptable if it means there's incentive for entities to build and offer good services.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From my POV, this not only counts for safety, but for nearly everything, as I see freedom as the highest of all goods.
And I'm certanly not the only one who thinks that way if he actually *starts* thinking. (Wich is not a habit of what i call "the average citizen".)
> Skype is currently the only provider to allow calls to landlines and cellphones.
Maybe in the USA. Here in germany it's no big deal to get a clean VoIP for your home. There are many providers that have a bridge to the old phone networks, and some big companies like 1&1 pushing the system.
(By the way they all use real SIP and no proprietary protocol like skype. That's why they are mostly interconnected with most concurrents. My favourite is Sipgate.)
I just say:t echsupt/tfleft.web+Academic~Jokes+8th~grade~educat ion,~could~you~pass.txt
http://techsupt.winbatch.com/webcgi/webbatch.exe?
Any further questions?
> Yes, but unlike religious dogma, scientific theories are meant to be falsifiable.
That's unfair! they can falsify ours and we must say okay, but we can not take down their bullshit because to them and their listeners they are always right?
Does this mean to the average american extremist, that we can only lose??
> Inventors: Sterchi; Henry C. (Redmond, WA); Ridgeway; Edward A. (Redmond, WA); Dyack; Denis P. (Ontario, CA)
Umm... this "Redmond, WA" remembers me of very small and soft... something evil... something *insane*... MMMWAHAHAHAHAHA.....
> Some of us are actually using IE 7.0 Beta1...
Okay, better, but from my POV still far, far, away. mainly because they not *want* to make it 100% conforming to the standards.
> As for having to move the mouse just to go back, I have a multibutton mouse, didnt even have to set it up to use the thumb button as the "Back" function.
Me too, even with a forward-button and stuff? But this was only an example for saying: there are so many things i'm used to that make my work faster, that i feel like impaird when using even IE 7...
> Are you telling me Opera, Mozilla and Firefox don't have a tonne of bugs? I work of plenty of Web App devs who know all too well that there a bugs, lots of bugs, both big and small in all of the above, including IE.
Well, i *am* a WebDev doing rich internet apps professionally since 1998, and of course you are right: there are tons of bugs in every bigger app. That's completely normal. the best way to explain the difference is to explain how you debug a RIA on IE vs. firefox where the reason is a browsr-bug (hypothetical case!):
1)
Firefox: "Javascript Error: Object 'button' does not have a property 'UI' in line 523 in file 'gui.lib.js'"
IE: "Error in line 523: Object not found"
2)
Firefox: Ah, there's the object. of course it has no element UI. It IS the UI, not the model! But why does it ask for the UI-property?
IE: First problem: Wich file does he mean? there are 20 of 'em. Second problem: The given line not always reflects the real line. Sometimes it's one line below, sometimes it's completely elsewhere.
3)
Firefox: After using the venkman debugger, the dom inspector and some 30 minutes of time you eliminated all the possibilities that it can be your code.
IE: After sund *hours* to track down the real line (s) of the problem you find 3 code fragments that - if removed - fix the thing. Problem: A) None of them has anything to do with a bug. They work fine when used in a test site. And B) It's not always reproducible making it a pain in the ass to track the thing down.
4)
Firefox: I go to bugzilla.mozilla.org, and either find a bug report with a workaround and/or a "nightly build fixed. WFM". or i create a new one that shortly also becomes such a bug report.
IE: I go to msdn.microsoft.com, but there is no useful information. With some luck i get a small hint on soem special case that could be involved.
5)
Firefox: Now where i know the exact cause of the problem i can implement the workaround very easily and i can continue with real work.
IE: After a (maybe some) night(s) of taking the whole webapp and the involved IE APIs apart, finding nothing, trying here and there, again finding nothing and basically building a new (maybe slower) implementation of the functionality (leaving one less way to do it), i get my workaround and can contine to work, if i still have the nerves to do so.
Any further questions?
> At the time (last year) I only found a few, and they either had lousy functionality or were extremely slow.
I use the "session saver" plugin for a logn time now and it's neiter slow nor bad in funtionality. W(great)FM
But the funny thing is: If Opera is so "bloated", then why is it still (subjectively[?)) faster? (and has a more usable interface [i know there are poeple disagreeing with this, but i'm not].)
... it rather *languishes* away,
;),
;P
;)
considering the - for modern users - nearly unusable interface
(ex: "hey, why does rocker nav open a popup menu?? what? i have to actually *move* the mouse to the button and click, *just to go *back*???" "where are the tabs??" "where is the adblocker??"),
the tons of bugs
(ask a real web developer. i'm pretty sure he answers you that he wants to strangle everyone still forcing him to support this load of misdocumented inconsistent unreliable crap that IE calls an API
and the chances that it ever gets really *good*...
(depending of M$ being *good* from your POV)
I guess if I were an american i'd sue you for compensation for the pain and suffering you helped to do to me.
P.S.: I got in fact fired because in some special cases of inconsistency a (nearly) unpatched IE 6 destroys the whole site by making it unusable (and ugly). It seemed that the press and marketing chimps from many important companies did not have the patch, but in our company everyone had it. So I never saw a problem, released it, and *bam*: We were "blamed" that much at out target group that my big boss fired me.
(Okay, you could also say that i should rather hate those chimps. In fact i hate IE *and* them.
... did it gave a "not enough breakdance skillz to enter" error?
... because he's right?
> What the hell, Sony, where are the games?
Maybe.... Here?
If you show me yours. ;P
;)
I read it on a food scientists site but forgot where.
And you? Come on! Bring me that guy!
And now i know why it has that name...
you wonder what it has to do with real true bread.
I woul consider "wonder bread" as some kind of "wheat marshmallow".
it's so simple do determine because real natural flavours have up to hundrets of different molecules that compose the final taste. A food scientist's tase cocktail will maybe have up to dome dozen of flavours. These are the most important ones. And the more moleules, the more realistic it is... up to the level where you can't taste the difference. Now it depends on the complexity of the original flavour and the quality of the imitaition how real it tastes. If you can get some very very expensive flavour there can be also more than hundret sub-flavours in it. And some flavours ae that easy that it's no problem to create a perfect imitation in every good food laboratory.
> Atkins works as it thows your body into ketosis, vegan works as you have almost zero fat intake, simply being active, eating healthy and lowering your calorie intake works the best in the long run.
Atkins and vegan diets kill you for the very same reason that unhealty food does: it's unhealty!
I had many many different diets, and i can tell you that the whole concept of a "diet" is a huge load of crap!
Do you know what it takes to bekome healty and thin?
That's really all you have to do. Nothing more... But as with all addictions, it depents on your willpower to do it. (Tip: A psychologist can help you more than you may think with that problem.)
... after seven years, the sandwich eats *you*!
are you using framebuffer support? this killed my logger (metalog) very often and createy various oopses adn problem. I can't recommend console framebuffers at all anymore. too dangerous...
wow... great level of conversation on this first 5-10 messages... *must not follow peer pressure*
Well... in these areas (from india to china), they call a place where 500,000 poeple live a village!
;)
Can you imagine what they call a city? And they have many of them down there.
But the ones that have anything to say just seem to say all the shame shit, no? ;)
Does anyone know how many of those 19 parties are actually in their parliament?
... in europe. Here you can remove the card. But you can't put in a card from another company. But wait: when you can't remove the card then it should be no problem to track the plone down because the fixed id (that is used to show the phone company who gets billed) can't be removed, right?
Well. Here in germany, they remove the sim-card and the police seems to be completely unable to track the phone down. Usually when you go to the police their comments are going from "bad luck..." to a "loud" grin.