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Wow, I really hope you're being sarcastic. You are completely off base with this comment. Sure, cell 'pads' can tell you a lot, but no where near what animal models can tell you. And simulations? That's a joke.
If you're serious, then I volunteer you to be the first person to test the possible consequences of new drugs. *groan*
I think that was the point. Hence the name 'Adult Swim'. They purposefully put it at an inconvinient time for students because you're not their target audience. Especially since most college students (if you are that variety) don't wake up until 10pm (and many much much later).
For a biped...why couldn't they employ technology like in Segway. Use the gyroscopes to autobalance the unit but instead of rotating wheels just have muscle like control over a foot where the whole body is pulled forward (Tibialis anterior) or back (Gastrocnemius) by the stable foot against the ground.
Any problems with this idea? You would need some side to side stabilization too. For Standing still you would use both feet to stabilize but when walking you would have to only use one (pick up and lean the unit forward).
Excuse my cynicism, but oh great. You're going to send a letter about the *one* guy at the call center who could help you. And then he gets promoted. And now there's no*one* left at the call center competent enough to do something about my call!;)
HAHAHAHAHA, sorry. I'm a huge dork...but I just need to make this comment. Sperm is full of Lysozymes, I can't remember if that's the exact name (but it's damn close enough), that when they reach the egg are used to disintegrate the cellular membrane so they can enter the egg.
So when you say Cigs and alcohol...disintegrate the body's component They actually don't. They cause other problems, getting things out of whack, but it's that damn sperm that'll disintegrate the body's components...:)
I went to www.drudgereport.com shortly after reading this article on/. Turns out this is a very common way to aggravate your opposition. A news reporter ran a story about a government contractor involved with creating a database on all citizens that included name/phone number/address/relatives address and criminal history.
Ok....? Getting back a little of what you dish out justifies calling people "Out of their minds". I can see if they were firebombing his house, but sending him junk mail?;) Come on Alan, what're you thinking.
This has to be the best story ever. The funniest thing I've heard today at LEAST!
Well, as sorry I am that you had a bad experience as a Biology major, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I got my undergraduate degree in Biology from Hillsdale College in Michigan and minored in Chemistry. If you don't enjoy your major, change it. Seems pretty simple to me.
And the fact that there is a large number of people in Biology classes I would hypothesize is related to the number of people who try to get into Medical School. And veternary school and graduate school in biomedical sciences which is a huge and growing field. Whereas I don't think CS majors have that many options.
I am currently getting a PhD in Pharmacology/Biochemistry but just wanted to offer a counter opinion as someone who LOVED Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry and Cell Biology and Developmental Biology. Biology and Chemistry are absolutely fascinating. If you don't enjoy them, don't major in them...just like if you don't enjoy CS....don't major in it. I think that's a better message to send then "I highly discourage anyone from majoring in Bio".
I assume you didn't get a teaching certificate or take any business classes where you could have easily done hospital finances. Or did you look at Government jobs as an inspector of the numerous things the government regulates. Or look to OSHA or some college/company similar organization for training on safety issues. All can be based on a biology degree. Just a couple counter thoughts from a person who loves biomedical science!
Interesting, but isn't it all relative? By the time anyone cares what was on the internet in the 80's, don't you think these machines will all be antiqued and probably incompatible. Doing 'hand dirtying' research will now involve finding an operating CD ROM drive (HA, what a piece of crap, it was that large and not flexible, and you couldn't touch one side). Or, going into a vault of old computer storage crap. It's all relative.:)
Yeah, and if they make the Landshark out of cheap flimsy plastic that breaks whenever you use it on anything tougher than pudding I agree with your argument.
This is a long but ridiculous comment. Have you ever heard of a retrovirus? It's a method for incorporating RNA into the human genome. Oh, imagine that. And it's natural. And it hasn't plagued the human race and killed us all? Or, God forbid, "go wild". This happens to bacteria all the time. This is why bacteria are able to become resistant to antibiotics.
And could you please elaborate on how animal organ transplants would introduce new human pathogens?
Sorry, I should've explained further. G is short for Guanine, A for Adenosine, T for Thymine, and C for Cytosine. When you write out genetic sequences you use the abbreviations. GATTACA is an example of a hypothetical DNA sequence. It was a play on words. So, you'd know there is no 'i' at all in GATTACA because there's no nucleotide abbreviated with 'i'.:)
Except Isoleucine is an Amino Acid and not a nucleotide, so no. You can never have an I in a genetic sequence. If you're dealing with RNA, you can have a U (Uracil) instead of the T.
Normally I wouldn't correct spelling. But it's "GATTACA". Get it? Guanine, Adenosine, Thymine, Cytosine. Those are the nucleotides that make up DNA. There's a reason for the name. Just thought I'd point that out.
Ok, so I'm illiterate. Since I can't read, you have to have an option to navigate your website by graphics only. As well as Text only for the blind. And then a nice mix for those who can see/read/hear/etc. You can't accomodate every group, why should you be required by law? I think it's great if you want to make your web site handicap accesible, but if we're going to mandate it by law, where does it stop? Just a thought
I don't know where you're from and I'm not a lawyer, but...
In America we have this thing called Habeaus Corpus (sp? actual name?!?) that prevents a person from being tried for a crime that was commited before it became illegal. While I don't agree with the original poster, I don't agree with your logic either.
I would say if the police had to have a warrant to use the technology, like they do when they put a phone tap/other surviellance, then I don't have a problem with it. Just a thought....
Horses work fine. Sure, the crap smells bad but can you imagine your neighbor pulling one of those loud things out of his house. Horses are fine for me where I don't have to worry about other cars coming at me at 70mph.
Just like when I heard everyone saying word processors/type writers are fine. Or, dial-up modems are fine who needs cable.
You only say this because cars are the social norm and to society Helicoptor/air travel is a fantasy. In 20 years your tune might change.
While your point is well and good, I think you should at least look at the article. They're talking about a NEW STANDARD. USB on-the-go is not USB 1.0 which your Nikon 775 is and your printer and is included on most computers. So, what the poster was saying is Firewire is OUT and on some computers and is proven. Why make a NEW standard to do what Firewire does and has done. I think you missed the point, just 'cause it's still called USB doesn't mean your 775 is going to be able to print directly on your current printer. Either way, you'll need new stuff.
Yeah, packetshitter can suck my butt. I went to Hillsdale College. We had nothing but problems. They just grouped all FTP/Gaming ports into one. So, our Ping would be 60 for a minute and then spike to 10,000. Oh, and it didn't stop people from transferring files. People found out AIMster wasn't "shapped" as well as a couple other programs. Oh, and it just decided to crap out every 18 hours or so. IOW, at 10pm every night it would die and then the lazy admin wouldn't make it back in until 8am. What a jerk. So, me and my suitemates shared a Cable Modem which was insanely faster. Well, that's my rant for the evening. In summary, packetshitter made it just as unpleasant for the users if not more so than the Kazaa users. Oh, and the kazaa users pay and didn't cost friggin' $10,000. BLAH!!!! Morons
Ok, well I own a G3 iBook and am perfectly happy with its speed. I hate to point out the obvious, but...
Have you tried installing more RAM?
Have you tried X.2 (Jaguar)? It's much quicker/more responsive
Just a couple of things that really made my iBook go a lot faster. The included 64mb of RAM is not enough, I threw in 256 more and it flies. Also, I have never had a problem with my CD ROM not recognizing a CD, ever. Maybe you just got a bad apple. I love mine and it works great!!!!
Ok, you can't just "find the cure for cancer" in anyones DNA. Just doesn't work like that. One individual DNA might offer a hint of evidence towards something that might lead to a development in the cure, but it's nothing that simple. Trust me, I spend 40 hours a week doing it. I *wish* it were that simple.:) DNA sequencing is cake, radiosensitization, clonogenecity, western blots, immunoprecipitations. Dang, just buy yourself a sequencer if it were that easy...;)
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Wow, I really hope you're being sarcastic. You are completely off base with this comment. Sure, cell 'pads' can tell you a lot, but no where near what animal models can tell you. And simulations? That's a joke.
If you're serious, then I volunteer you to be the first person to test the possible consequences of new drugs. *groan*
I think that was the point. Hence the name 'Adult Swim'. They purposefully put it at an inconvinient time for students because you're not their target audience. Especially since most college students (if you are that variety) don't wake up until 10pm (and many much much later).
For a biped...why couldn't they employ technology like in Segway. Use the gyroscopes to autobalance the unit but instead of rotating wheels just have muscle like control over a foot where the whole body is pulled forward (Tibialis anterior) or back (Gastrocnemius) by the stable foot against the ground.
Any problems with this idea? You would need some side to side stabilization too. For Standing still you would use both feet to stabilize but when walking you would have to only use one (pick up and lean the unit forward).
Just a thought
http://sitemaker.umich.edu/dan.coughlin
Excuse my cynicism, but oh great. You're going to send a letter about the *one* guy at the call center who could help you. And then he gets promoted. And now there's no*one* left at the call center competent enough to do something about my call! ;)
HAHAHAHAHA, sorry. I'm a huge dork...but I just need to make this comment. Sperm is full of Lysozymes, I can't remember if that's the exact name (but it's damn close enough), that when they reach the egg are used to disintegrate the cellular membrane so they can enter the egg.
:)
So when you say
Cigs and alcohol...disintegrate the body's component
They actually don't. They cause other problems, getting things out of whack, but it's that damn sperm that'll disintegrate the body's components...
I went to www.drudgereport.com shortly after reading this article on /. Turns out this is a very common way to aggravate your opposition. A news reporter ran a story about a government contractor involved with creating a database on all citizens that included name/phone number/address/relatives address and criminal history.
Ok....? Getting back a little of what you dish out justifies calling people "Out of their minds". I can see if they were firebombing his house, but sending him junk mail? ;) Come on Alan, what're you thinking.
This has to be the best story ever. The funniest thing I've heard today at LEAST!
Well, as sorry I am that you had a bad experience as a Biology major, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I got my undergraduate degree in Biology from Hillsdale College in Michigan and minored in Chemistry. If you don't enjoy your major, change it. Seems pretty simple to me.
And the fact that there is a large number of people in Biology classes I would hypothesize is related to the number of people who try to get into Medical School. And veternary school and graduate school in biomedical sciences which is a huge and growing field. Whereas I don't think CS majors have that many options.
I am currently getting a PhD in Pharmacology/Biochemistry but just wanted to offer a counter opinion as someone who LOVED Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry and Cell Biology and Developmental Biology. Biology and Chemistry are absolutely fascinating. If you don't enjoy them, don't major in them...just like if you don't enjoy CS....don't major in it. I think that's a better message to send then "I highly discourage anyone from majoring in Bio".
I assume you didn't get a teaching certificate or take any business classes where you could have easily done hospital finances. Or did you look at Government jobs as an inspector of the numerous things the government regulates. Or look to OSHA or some college/company similar organization for training on safety issues. All can be based on a biology degree. Just a couple counter thoughts from a person who loves biomedical science!
Hey, Where at UofM did they have a demonstration? I'm a new student there and would be interested in checking out stuff like this. Thanks, ~Dan
Interesting, but isn't it all relative? By the time anyone cares what was on the internet in the 80's, don't you think these machines will all be antiqued and probably incompatible. Doing 'hand dirtying' research will now involve finding an operating CD ROM drive (HA, what a piece of crap, it was that large and not flexible, and you couldn't touch one side). Or, going into a vault of old computer storage crap. It's all relative. :)
Ok, this sounds very interesting. Could you please describe how you do this?
Yeah, and if they make the Landshark out of cheap flimsy plastic that breaks whenever you use it on anything tougher than pudding I agree with your argument.
No. You can't. A-T-G-C and sometimes U
This is a long but ridiculous comment. Have you ever heard of a retrovirus? It's a method for incorporating RNA into the human genome. Oh, imagine that. And it's natural. And it hasn't plagued the human race and killed us all? Or, God forbid, "go wild". This happens to bacteria all the time. This is why bacteria are able to become resistant to antibiotics.
And could you please elaborate on how animal organ transplants would introduce new human pathogens?
Sorry, I should've explained further. G is short for Guanine, A for Adenosine, T for Thymine, and C for Cytosine. When you write out genetic sequences you use the abbreviations. GATTACA is an example of a hypothetical DNA sequence. It was a play on words. So, you'd know there is no 'i' at all in GATTACA because there's no nucleotide abbreviated with 'i'. :)
Except Isoleucine is an Amino Acid and not a nucleotide, so no. You can never have an I in a genetic sequence. If you're dealing with RNA, you can have a U (Uracil) instead of the T.
Normally I wouldn't correct spelling. But it's "GATTACA". Get it? Guanine, Adenosine, Thymine, Cytosine. Those are the nucleotides that make up DNA. There's a reason for the name. Just thought I'd point that out.
Ok, so I'm illiterate. Since I can't read, you have to have an option to navigate your website by graphics only. As well as Text only for the blind. And then a nice mix for those who can see/read/hear/etc. You can't accomodate every group, why should you be required by law? I think it's great if you want to make your web site handicap accesible, but if we're going to mandate it by law, where does it stop? Just a thought
I don't know where you're from and I'm not a lawyer, but...
In America we have this thing called Habeaus Corpus (sp? actual name?!?) that prevents a person from being tried for a crime that was commited before it became illegal. While I don't agree with the original poster, I don't agree with your logic either.
I would say if the police had to have a warrant to use the technology, like they do when they put a phone tap/other surviellance, then I don't have a problem with it. Just a thought....
~Dan
http://sitemaker.umich.edu/dan.coughlin
http://www.pbase.com/efatapo
Yeah, and I'm sure plenty of people said...
Horses work fine. Sure, the crap smells bad but can you imagine your neighbor pulling one of those loud things out of his house. Horses are fine for me where I don't have to worry about other cars coming at me at 70mph.
Just like when I heard everyone saying word processors/type writers are fine. Or, dial-up modems are fine who needs cable.
You only say this because cars are the social norm and to society Helicoptor/air travel is a fantasy. In 20 years your tune might change.
While your point is well and good, I think you should at least look at the article. They're talking about a NEW STANDARD. USB on-the-go is not USB 1.0 which your Nikon 775 is and your printer and is included on most computers. So, what the poster was saying is Firewire is OUT and on some computers and is proven. Why make a NEW standard to do what Firewire does and has done. I think you missed the point, just 'cause it's still called USB doesn't mean your 775 is going to be able to print directly on your current printer. Either way, you'll need new stuff.
Yeah, packetshitter can suck my butt. I went to Hillsdale College. We had nothing but problems. They just grouped all FTP/Gaming ports into one. So, our Ping would be 60 for a minute and then spike to 10,000. Oh, and it didn't stop people from transferring files. People found out AIMster wasn't "shapped" as well as a couple other programs. Oh, and it just decided to crap out every 18 hours or so. IOW, at 10pm every night it would die and then the lazy admin wouldn't make it back in until 8am. What a jerk. So, me and my suitemates shared a Cable Modem which was insanely faster. Well, that's my rant for the evening. In summary, packetshitter made it just as unpleasant for the users if not more so than the Kazaa users. Oh, and the kazaa users pay and didn't cost friggin' $10,000. BLAH!!!! Morons
Ok, well I own a G3 iBook and am perfectly happy with its speed. I hate to point out the obvious, but...
Have you tried installing more RAM?
Have you tried X.2 (Jaguar)? It's much quicker/more responsive
Just a couple of things that really made my iBook go a lot faster. The included 64mb of RAM is not enough, I threw in 256 more and it flies. Also, I have never had a problem with my CD ROM not recognizing a CD, ever. Maybe you just got a bad apple. I love mine and it works great!!!!
Ok, you can't just "find the cure for cancer" in anyones DNA. Just doesn't work like that. One individual DNA might offer a hint of evidence towards something that might lead to a development in the cure, but it's nothing that simple. Trust me, I spend 40 hours a week doing it. I *wish* it were that simple. :) DNA sequencing is cake, radiosensitization, clonogenecity, western blots, immunoprecipitations. Dang, just buy yourself a sequencer if it were that easy... ;)
Does this mean the women with the smallest dresses will be photographed the most?